Tuesday, 2019-10-08

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VW_hey mihalis68_14:06
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mihalis68_hello14:06
mihalis68_#startmeeting ops-meetup-team14:06
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct  8 14:06:42 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:06
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'14:06
mihalis68_#topic actions14:06
shintaroo/14:06
VW_o/14:06
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mihalis68_o/14:07
mihalis68_I have not update the agenda sheet today14:07
mihalis68_not much to report14:07
mihalis68_#topic actions14:07
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mihalis68_I sent a draft report on the recent ops meetup hosted here to the foundation people who asked for it for SuperUser14:07
mihalis68_I also requested an update on whether we'll be able to host in London in January14:07
shintaroWe have a room for Opsmeetup on Thursday afternoon in Shanghai14:08
mihalis68_yeah I saw that.14:08
mihalis68_3 hours14:08
mihalis68_to be perfectly honest, I am glad I didn't arrange to stay longer in china only to find out 3 hours is all we get for that14:09
shintaroBetter than nothing, I guess14:09
mihalis68_true14:10
VW_I'm not making it to Shanghai at all14:10
VW_is someone from this group going to be able to be around for the short session14:10
mihalis68_erik mccormick for sure14:11
mihalis68_shintaro I guess?14:11
shintaroyes I will be there14:11
VW_cool. I'll have someone there - he's gong on his own, so I'll try to have him join14:11
mihalis68_#topic shanghai ops meetup14:12
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mihalis68_I'm not sure what to do about a 3 hour ops meetup. The normal process of a period of asking for topics and moderators and then refining it into an agenda seems rather heavy for that14:12
shintarothat's true.14:14
shintaroWe probably need to find someone from Chinese community to promote the event.14:15
VW_That would be a good idea14:18
VW_find out 3, maybe 4 topics high on the list of Chinese operators14:18
mihalis68_erik pointed out twitter is probably not as good - I'm not sure locals can get to it14:21
mihalis68_I hate to be blunt, but I'm not organising this one14:21
mihalis68_wont be there, did the last one14:22
shintaroDo UC members have contact to local community ambassadors? If that works, I can ask Jaesuk for help.14:22
mihalis68_that sounds good. Just to explain myself, my father passed way last week and I've got a lot going on right now14:23
VW_Sorry to hear that mihalis68_, and completely understandable14:23
mihalis68_thanks14:23
VW_they probably do shintaro14:24
VW_spotz: you around?14:24
shintaroThank you VM_14:24
shintaroSorry to hear that too mihalis68_14:25
mihalis68_thanks14:25
VW_I'll try to get you and emccormick connected to some folks shintaro14:25
VW_today/tomorrow14:25
shintaroappreciate that VM_14:26
emccormicksorry I'm here.14:27
emccormickcatching up14:27
mihalis68_which forum sessions did we get? Any?14:27
VW_I thought I something somewhere that there were 1 or 2, but I need to go back and look14:29
emccormickWar Stories14:29
emccormickthat's it14:29
shintaro:(14:30
mihalis68_Well, that at least is a good session14:30
emccormickRE: the 3 hour Ops slot at PTG, my intention was not to use that if Horace's room comes through14:30
emccormickUnless I missed that falling through14:30
mihalis68_I thought 'Horace's room' and the 3 hour PTG slot ended up being the same thing14:30
mihalis68_admittedly not been reading these emails super carefully14:31
emccormickNo, Kendall gave us the 3 hours14:31
shintaroboth ended up the same 3hr slot14:31
emccormickaww poop14:31
emccormickThat's what I get for getting excited14:32
smcginnisIt would be great if we can have someone from that region lead up some (most?) of the planning.14:32
mihalis68_Is it me, or have the foundation forgotten about ops entirely?14:33
smcginnisI will be there, but not sure how much I will be able to be involved.14:33
emccormickI don't think there were too many options for them this go around14:34
emccormickSounds like the facility is just not up to snuff for what we're used to14:34
emccormickI'm sure Vancouver will be significantly better14:34
VW_yeah - I think emccormick is right14:35
emccormickAt worst, we can take over the bar at the Fairmont ;)14:35
VW_ha14:35
mihalis68_Everyone tells me shanghai is incredible. I expected Shanghai Expo Center to be great, but maybe they only have a relatively small chunk of it14:36
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smcginnisFWIW, even the dev teams are not super happy about some of the things this time around. Sounds like there are just a lot of big rooms that will be shared. That should make it interesting to try to hold some discussions with other things going on all around you.14:37
mihalis68_ok. I guess if everyone is in the same boat it is a venue issue, and thus not much to be done about it now14:37
VW_hey folks - hate to do this, but I have to drop early.  I'm on the West Coast and need to head to the office.  I'll work on connecting members of this team who will be in China with UC and local ambassadors14:38
VW_please let me know if you need anything else14:38
VW_talk to you next week!14:38
mihalis68_that sounds great, VW_, it's great to have you back!14:38
emccormickcool thanks14:38
shintarothank you!14:39
VW_happy to be here14:39
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mihalis68_anything else for shanghai?14:39
mihalis68_who's presenting war stories? :)14:39
mihalis68_or moderating, I should say14:39
emccormicknothing here14:41
mihalis68_#topic any other business14:41
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mihalis68_as previously noted no update yet for meetup #1 202014:42
mihalis68_but we're hoping to host again (in London)14:42
smcginnisIn case it wasn't seen - just want to make sure everyone is aware of the overall event changes in 2020.14:42
mihalis68_otherwise, there's not much to do other than one Forum session (war stories) and then 3 hours of content on day 4 of shanghai. I am recusing myself from the latter but happy to take on war stories14:42
smcginnisSounds like the spring event will be a smaller project focused event, then the larger summit type event in the fall.14:43
smcginnishttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2019-September/002794.html14:43
spotzvw_ here, was upgrading the mac14:44
spotzTook longer then I thought:(14:44
mihalis68_he's already left14:44
spotzbah, took longer then I thought14:45
mihalis68_thanks for the update, Sean. I don't feel I understand event 1 2020 at all, TBH14:45
mihalis68_or at least, whether ops are part of it14:46
smcginnisI guess we shall see, but I'm thinking of it as more like the PTG events than a summit.14:46
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smcginnisI'm sure (and I would hope) ops would be very welcome and I hope we can set up some Forum and Ops Meetup type of things there.14:46
smcginnisjamesmcarthur: Any input on that at this point? ^14:47
shintaroSomething like Denver PTG?14:47
smcginnisI think it will end up being kind of like that.14:47
emccormickI was thinking more like Openstack / Openinfra Days14:48
emccormickjust don't know if it'll all be working sessions or if there will be presentations too14:48
jamesmcarthuris catching up14:48
shintaroSeems like the target audience is Devs but not ops?14:48
smcginnisThat could very well be.14:48
emccormicko/14:49
smcginnisI take this as meaning kind of like a Forum/PTG - "with a strong focus on open collaboration sessions"14:49
emccormickOnce jamesmcarthur catches up he can probably tell us ;)14:49
jamesmcarthurOK - re: 2020 event - Ops are definitely welcome. From the dev/ops side, I think it's going to be like forum/PTG as smcginnis notes.14:50
jamesmcarthurA mini-summit is sort of what I've been hearing, but I don't think anyone has fleshed out the exact details of that yet.14:50
smcginnisI know we are still very early in planning, so there's probably some time to adjust what we really want that event to be.14:51
jamesmcarthurI'm going to flag this conversation though and bring it up to the events folks.14:51
jamesmcarthurY'all aren't the only ones asking :)14:51
smcginnisI'm sure they are trying to figure things out too, but it would be great to get more clarity when we can.14:51
mihalis68_I guess we should all keep talking and try to make it awesome for all14:51
smcginnis++14:51
shintaro+114:52
emccormickWhatever form it takes, just lets make sure to put an Ops spotlight on it from the start14:52
emccormickDon't want to shove it in there as an afterthought14:52
smcginnis++ again :)14:53
emccormickWhatever promo things come out of the foundation when the announcements are made will hopefully help make it appealing to both groups14:53
jamesmcarthurI promise to come back and update this channel when I know more :)14:53
emccormickfor Denver it was kind of an afterthought. A somewhat gangrenous appendage ;)14:54
emccormickThanks Jimmy.14:54
mihalis68_last call14:54
emccormickBourbon. Neat.14:54
mihalis68_eh?14:55
smcginnisYou said last call. :P14:55
mihalis68_oh...14:55
mihalis68_:)14:55
smcginnisTime to turn on the lights and shuffle everyone to the door.14:55
mihalis68_ok, thanks everyone. See you next week14:55
jamesmcarthurlol14:56
jamesmcarthurbye all!14:56
smcginnisThanks!14:56
emccormicko/14:56
mihalis68_#endmeeting14:56
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shintarothank you all14:56
emccormickbtw, for anyone that wants to really geek out on somehting. Watch this over lunch14:56
emccormickhttps://youtu.be/45X4VP8CGtk14:56
emccormickKid bought an mainframe and got it up and running in his basement :D14:56
smcginnisElectric company must love em.14:57
emccormickIBM z89014:57
emccormickThe moving story alone is worth a watch14:57
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smcginnisOnly $8,900 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ibm-Z890-main-frame-server-used/113819401714?hash=item1a802a3df2:g:fR4AAOSw5HBbOWHD14:58
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jamesmcarthurAn article about it as well: https://www.fastcompany.com/3063265/this-teenage-ibm-employee-got-his-job-by-buying-an-old-mai15:03
smcginnisHaha, nice.15:04
jamesmcarthurThe kid got a job out if it!15:07
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