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| emccormick | o/ | 15:03 |
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| smcginnis | o/ | 15:04 |
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| VW_ | o/ | 15:04 |
| shintaro | o/ | 15:05 |
| mihalis68_ | o/ | 15:06 |
| mihalis68_ | I've got no progress to report | 15:06 |
| mihalis68_ | other than increasing concern about upcoming events | 15:06 |
| mihalis68_ | technical conferences are being cancelled left and right | 15:07 |
| mihalis68_ | there's a hotspot near seattle, not far from Vancouver | 15:07 |
| emccormick | All we can do at this point is plan like its gonna go on normally | 15:08 |
| VW_ | agreed | 15:08 |
| VW_ | and deal with it if it doesn't | 15:08 |
| emccormick | Let poor Foundation people decide the hard stuff | 15:09 |
| mihalis68_ | is there anyone from the foundation here right now? They must be considering cancelling | 15:09 |
| emccormick | Probably still way too early | 15:10 |
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| shintaro | KubeCon hasn't cancelled the event yet | 15:10 |
| emccormick | Anywho I have nothing new either. We talked last week about tweeting out the SK choices as polls this werk | 15:13 |
| emccormick | Do we want to go ahead and do that? | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | My hope is that is far enough out that things should have settled down by then. | 15:14 |
| emccormick | Maybe with a re-tweet that it's of course all dependent on plague status? | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | And it might actually be a very good time to travel and support SK tourism a bit. | 15:14 |
| mihalis68_ | SK has 5000 cases | 15:14 |
| emccormick | We should all have had it by then ;) | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | That's what I'm thinking. | 15:14 |
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| mihalis68_ | it's the second biggest outbreak, after only China. I am thinking about whether organising an international event there makes sense. I am really not sure | 15:15 |
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| smcginnis | It's several months away yet. If things are still bad by then, I think we'll have other things to be worried about. | 15:16 |
| mihalis68_ | Ok, i can tweet out a reminder that we want input on the venues, but I already did that and we got one response | 15:18 |
| mihalis68_ | and that person wouldn't be going | 15:18 |
| mihalis68_ | and that was before SK had any cases | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Might be good to get input from the SK folks if they think this should still go ahead. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | Even if cases taper off by then, they might not be in a good position to host now. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | Or, they might really want to make sure something happens to keep things going. | 15:20 |
| emccormick | By September it'll be everywhere | 15:21 |
| mihalis68_ | shintaro could we lean on you to email Jaesuk again? | 15:21 |
| emccormick | Or nowhere | 15:21 |
| shintaro | ok I will ask Jaesuk again | 15:21 |
| mihalis68_ | and perhaps Erik or Sean could you work your foundation contacts about whether Vancouver will go ahead? | 15:22 |
| shintaro | whether we should move things ahead or wait for thins to settle a bit | 15:22 |
| mihalis68_ | As an individual I am still fairly game | 15:22 |
| emccormick | Its early enough we should set a date and address it later if it needs to be cancelled | 15:22 |
| emccormick | If we sit and wait we'll back ourselves into a corner | 15:22 |
| mihalis68_ | but we're somewhat wearing the hats of event organisers. In that viewpoint we need to be considerate of whether people will want to go | 15:23 |
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| emccormick | Like I said before. 90% will be locals | 15:25 |
| emccormick | They're already in the middle of it | 15:25 |
| emccormick | Just preface everything with "Assuming things with the virus are under control..." and move ahead I'd say | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | According to the latest from the Foundation, Vancouver is still planned and they are monitoring the situation. | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | I would really hate to be a large conference organizer right now. | 15:27 |
| VW_ | amen to that | 15:29 |
| VW_ | even internal travel for some companies is being slowed/halted | 15:29 |
| mihalis68_ | yeah, for example Amazon, or so I hear | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | I had several international trips planned in March. Spent half the day yesterday cancelling them. :[ | 15:30 |
| shintaro | We are concerned for the local OpenStack Days event in July | 15:31 |
| emccormick | Good thing you're not one of the Olympics orgsnizers | 15:32 |
| shintaro | Japan would be next to be banned from entering US, I'm afraid. | 15:32 |
| emccormick | Ot could always be worse ;) | 15:32 |
| mihalis68_ | ok i'll tweet about the venue choice for SK, with a disclaimer | 15:32 |
| mihalis68_ | I have to find out if I can make plans for Vancouver or not | 15:33 |
| mihalis68_ | there are daily, perhaps hourly policy changes | 15:33 |
| mihalis68_ | these seem to be the main things to focus on right now. If we get a room for vancouve and if we're going then we can worry about content | 15:33 |
| emccormick | I'm pulling a Chris and waiting until last minute to decide on Vancouver ;) | 15:33 |
| mihalis68_ | some of our offices are already to no travel and work from home already | 15:34 |
| mihalis68_ | and there are two cases in the NYC area now | 15:34 |
| mihalis68_ | plus we all take the subway | 15:34 |
| mihalis68_ | "keep distance, don't touch things" "have you SEEN the subway?" | 15:35 |
| emccormick | Yeah you're getting it | 15:35 |
| mihalis68_ | and that's another point... | 15:36 |
| mihalis68_ | should I travel from NYC? That's not necessarily clever either | 15:36 |
| emccormick | Who knows by then | 15:37 |
| emccormick | Anyway, assuming things have settled down by then... | 15:37 |
| emccormick | Shpuld we throw an Etherpad together for Vancouver and send it out? | 15:38 |
| VW_ | i think so | 15:39 |
| emccormick | We are going for a half day right now but if we magically get a lot of traction on it we may want to up that to a full day | 15:39 |
| emccormick | Or 2 half days | 15:40 |
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| mihalis68_ | you volunteering to make the pad erik? | 15:41 |
| emccormick | Ok | 15:42 |
| emccormick | (Sorry for slowness. Doing this from my phone today) | 15:42 |
| mihalis68_ | #startmeeting ops-meetup-team | 15:43 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 3 15:43:09 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:43 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:43 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' | 15:43 |
| emccormick | Heh | 15:43 |
| mihalis68_ | general discussion about the upcoming events w.r.t. coronavirus | 15:43 |
| mihalis68_ | #action mihalis68_ to again tweet out requests for input on SK event (with disclaimer) | 15:43 |
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| mihalis68_ | #action emccormick to start an etherpad for vancouver, which is apparently still on according to smcginnis | 15:44 |
| mihalis68_ | #action shintaro to follow-up once again with Jaesuk to see if the offer to host is still valid, given the situation in SK | 15:44 |
| emccormick | Another thing for feedback from this group | 15:45 |
| emccormick | The dissolution of the UC | 15:45 |
| emccormick | Or rather its reallocation | 15:46 |
| emccormick | There is an ML thread about what to do with it. It's going to fall under the TC somehow | 15:46 |
| emccormick | But one of the suggestions was to drop some of those responsibilities on the "Ops team" | 15:47 |
| mihalis68_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team | 15:47 |
| emccormick | I can only assume that meant us | 15:47 |
| mihalis68_ | I must admit I didn't finish reading that email thread | 15:48 |
| emccormick | I read it and it was too much governance complexity for my brain at the time | 15:48 |
| emccormick | But everyone do go check it out and comment | 15:49 |
| shintaro | I wasn't aware of the last part that some of the tasks will come to us | 15:49 |
| emccormick | It was a suggestion by .. Mohammad I think | 15:50 |
| mihalis68_ | I'm not sure how that will work. The team is down to a low number | 15:50 |
| mihalis68_ | does it mean operators? Or ops meetups team members? | 15:51 |
| emccormick | Yeah I dunno. It was unclear to me | 15:51 |
| VW_ | No, it's broader Ops | 15:52 |
| VW_ | we were discussing it before I finished my last UC term | 15:52 |
| VW_ | the truth is that we have a pretty active Ops community - and this group has a lot to do with that. | 15:52 |
| VW_ | So do we need a separate UC? | 15:52 |
| emccormick | I think we can pitch In without having to take on much more. We already do some of those things anyway. | 15:53 |
| VW_ | or, do we have some number of seats on the TC elected by Operators and have a single governing group | 15:53 |
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| mihalis68_ | other than the meetups team, though, the operators are not signed up for duties in any sense. They all have day jobs | 15:53 |
| mihalis68_ | I mean, I've spoken about the low manpower of the meetups team and asked for help, nothing has been forthcoming | 15:54 |
| emccormick | Maybe if it came with a nice label, some bigger ops might put a body forward | 15:55 |
| emccormick | I have no answers and am still pondering it myself | 15:56 |
| mihalis68_ | I guess those that are interested should find the mailing list thread, read what's been discussed and add their voice | 15:56 |
| mihalis68_ | can't be resolved here and now | 15:56 |
| mihalis68_ | so | 15:56 |
| emccormick | I just wanted to point it out to everyone | 15:56 |
| mihalis68_ | #topic any other business | 15:56 |
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| mihalis68_ | yes it was a good point | 15:56 |
| mihalis68_ | think we're done then | 15:57 |
| mihalis68_ | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 3 15:57:51 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2020/ops_meetup_team.2020-03-03-15.43.html | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2020/ops_meetup_team.2020-03-03-15.43.txt | 15:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/2020/ops_meetup_team.2020-03-03-15.43.log.html | 15:57 |
| mihalis68_ | gotta dash, ttyl | 15:58 |
| shintaro | thank you | 15:58 |
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| emccormick | See ya :) | 15:59 |
| VW_ | take care, folks! | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 16:01 |
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