Tuesday, 2020-05-12

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spotzMorning!14:00
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spotzHey shintaro I thought we were meeting but not sign of Chris yet14:04
shintarohi14:04
* smcginnis waves14:05
shintaroI missed last week so wasn't sure if we meet today.14:05
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spotzThere he is!14:13
spotzHey mihalis68_14:13
mihalis68_hi14:13
spotzhey smcginnis!14:13
spotzemccormick: Wake up!14:14
shintarohi14:15
smcginnisHey everyone!14:16
mihalis68_#startmeeting ops-meetup-team14:17
openstackMeeting started Tue May 12 14:17:06 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:17
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:17
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:17
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'14:17
mihalis68_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team14:17
mihalis68_hey everyone, sorry this is slow to start, my prior meeting ran over14:18
mihalis68_I haven't put an agenda on that page yet14:18
mihalis68_#topic video conferencing14:18
*** openstack changes topic to "video conferencing (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:18
mihalis68_I think the most exciting news is the open infra people have launched a free jitsi instance with integrated etherpad, see14:19
mihalis68_#link https://meetpad.opendev.org/14:19
mihalis68_erik, sean and I tried out jitsi as a test and it's pretty great14:19
mihalis68_#topic vancouver14:20
*** openstack changes topic to "vancouver (Meeting topic: ops-meetup-team)"14:20
spotzNice14:20
mihalis68_for virtual vancouver, I requested a 2-hour slot here https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy14:20
mihalis68_15:00 - 17:00 UTC on the wednesday14:20
mihalis68_which is 11am - 1pm EDT by my calculations14:21
mihalis68_that's about all I have14:22
mihalis68_how is everyone doing?14:22
spotzDoing good, raining here today14:22
shintaroBit tired of staying home all day14:23
spotzNYC opening up at all mihalis68_?14:23
spotzshintaro: Still locked down?14:24
mihalis68_it's going to be extremely slow here in NYC. It continues to have all the disadvantages - dense, travel magnet, public transport14:24
shintaroYes. At least until June.14:24
mihalis68_however upstate NY is opening this friday including where we have our little weekend place. We might decamp for there for a bit14:24
shintaroTokyo is not strictly locked down, but we were asked from the government to stay home as much as possible.14:25
mihalis68_I wanted to ask whther the team feels that trying a meetups team meeting via openstack's jitsi would be appropriate? Not now (havne't done my hair... :) but maybe some other time soon?14:25
mihalis68_we've been mostly cooped up for a long time too14:26
smcginnisshintaro: Staying home is a change there, right? I thought I had read that working from home was not a very common thing before this.14:26
spotzSure I'd give it a try. I'm not always home during the meetings. I still go to the barn to see the pony14:26
mihalis68_two month anniversary for me. Stayed home March 12th, haven't been back to the office since14:26
spotzYeah I'm lucky we already worked remote14:27
mihalis68_spotz you're a redhatter now?14:27
spotzmihalis68_: Yep:)14:28
mihalis68_congrats!14:28
spotzThanks, I actually get to play with OpenStack at work again14:28
shintarosmcginnis: Working from home for weeks is a new experience for most of us14:28
mihalis68_oh yeah, another thing I wanted to mention, the ops twitter account has been receiving some queries about will we do virtual ops meetups during this lockdown14:28
smcginnisGreat to see there is interest.14:29
mihalis68_i think we should learn jitsi a bit and poke and prod the limits and determine what would work14:29
spotzYeah the folks who have been remote for the most part we're 'OK' but I feel for folks not used to working from home14:29
mihalis68_obviously a philadelphia sized ops meetup would be one chaotic single video chat14:29
spotzDo we want to use our next meeting or schedule a time?14:29
mihalis68_this slot isn't that great for me. I have my skip-level with the big boss at 9.30 tuesdays, so right when i would like to prepare for this meeting14:30
mihalis68_so I'd be up for a jitsi checkin some time before this slot next week14:30
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spotzI'd be down for that. Next week I've got barn during this time:(14:31
spotzSo many meetings I now have to block my pony time on my calendar14:32
spotzAnd so many timezones!14:32
mihalis68_you're west coast? I forget14:32
spotzTX14:33
spotzI do have jitsu on my phone so should be able to join while driving if needed14:33
mihalis68_shintaro is already up super later by this time of day.14:33
mihalis68_could we go earlier? 9am EDT?14:34
mihalis68_that's hard on the people west of here14:34
shintaroearlier would be great for me14:34
smcginnisDo we have many west coast people?14:34
mihalis68_I could do 9am tomorrow14:34
spotzI could do tomorrow14:35
spotzfits inbetween 2 meetings perfectily:)14:35
mihalis68_ideally we'd have erik and he's not even here today14:35
mihalis68_slacker14:35
spotzI did ping him14:35
mihalis68_yes, he's just very busy. I'm kidding about slacking!14:35
mihalis68_I'll do a calendar invite for everyone for 9am tomorrow. It's just a trial run, so if you cannot make it, no big deal.14:36
spotzSounds good14:36
smcginnisI think I have a conflict, but I'll try to join.14:36
mihalis68_my thinking is an ops meetup could be a hybrid event where the moderators and subject matter experts are on a jitsi, but other people can just stream it14:36
smcginnisI like that plan.14:37
mihalis68_if we can stream the jitsi content out to youtube or something14:37
shintaroworks for me14:37
spotzThat's very similar how my team is doing twitch streams14:37
mihalis68_limit each slot to like 9 people (the Brady Brunch 3x3 grid! :)14:37
spotzWe have a few people in a zoom/Blue Jeans/whatever and then stream to twitch and answer questions from the chat in the stream or in the chat as needed14:38
mihalis68_ok ok, sounds like a plan. Shall we finish here and resume tomorrow in jitsi, and for those that don't make it perhaps follow-up for experiences via email?14:38
mihalis68_yeah, we would take questions from the non-live-participants either in the chat or the etherpad14:38
spotzLet's record tomorrow if possible to share the test?14:39
mihalis68_if that's supported on the openstack instance, sure14:39
spotzNow to do the streaming we'll need someone with a beefy OBS box14:39
mihalis68_although we have to be careful to be very clear about whether we record any official events we do, as some people would have to be more careful about what they say14:39
mihalis68_like I better not mention any hardware or software vendors in such a situation14:40
spotzI think if we stream out we don't have to post the videos after or we can delete them14:41
mihalis68_I don't have any concerns about this team having a record meeting14:41
mihalis68_but if/when we actually did a meetup and discussed technical things, the recorded/not recorded distinction is very important14:41
mihalis68_like I can tell you I don't like $HUGEVENDOR in obscurity, but best not be on youtube forever saying that14:42
spotzThat's what I was refering to. Us chatting for the test isn't much different from us typing here14:42
mihalis68_yep14:42
mihalis68_so I'll set something up and we'll gather tomorrow 9am virtually?14:42
spotzyep14:42
mihalis68_I'll do my "hair" :P14:43
mihalis68_ok think we're done here today14:43
mihalis68_last call for comment14:43
spotzBreakfast!:)14:43
mihalis68_#endmeeting14:43
*** openstack changes topic to "Topics related to operating OpenStack infrastructure | Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/"14:43
shintarothank you!14:43
openstackMeeting ended Tue May 12 14:43:42 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:43
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mihalis68_many thanks folks14:43
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spotzAnd if we get to the point we need help streaming I can get someone on my team to help:)14:44
spotzThey've been playing with best practices. I'm avoiding being a 'producer' right now due to lack of a second machine for it14:45
mihalis68_sounds great14:45
spotzBut if anyone has a beefy linux box they can be the producer using OBS14:47
mihalis68_I just built a beefy linux box14:47
smcginnisA very nice one.14:47
mihalis68_will have to do some reading14:47
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