Tuesday, 2020-10-06

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spotzWe meting this morning?13:00
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mihalis68_#startmeeting ops-meetup-team14:04
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct  6 14:04:39 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:04
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mihalis68_o/14:04
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'14:04
mihalis68_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team14:04
smcginniso/14:05
mihalis68_ping spotz, emccormick, mihalis68_, VW_, smcginnis, shintaro14:06
spotzo/14:06
mihalis68_sorry we didn't have a meeting last week after saying we'd try. we had some emergencies going on at work and I think many others were wrapped up14:06
mihalis68_we have the summit and ptg coming up14:07
mihalis68_For the summit I put in for two sessions14:07
mihalis68_one general ops stuff - pain points upgrades tooling etc. the usual "work"14:07
mihalis68_and then the other ops war stories (lightning talk) - the usual "play"14:07
smcginnisWith no travel planning, it seems weird that those events are just weeks away.14:08
mihalis68_and I also put some slots in for the ptg on the last two days14:08
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mihalis68_yeah14:09
mihalis68_I wanted to see who thinks they can help out with these for the ops sessions14:09
spotzI can't keep track of time without travel. At least doing some stuff with the animals outside14:09
mihalis68_I need to block out my calendar more specifically than just "in vancouver" or whatever I've done in the past14:09
smcginnis#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24772/ops-issues14:10
smcginnis#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24773/ops-war-stories-lightning-talks14:10
spotzI've got git an gerrit Wednesday morning so can't:(14:11
mihalis68_great, thanks Sean14:11
mihalis68_I think I can run the summit things. I optimistically put in for 4 slots on two days for the PTG. If it's going to be me running them I might scale back14:12
mihalis68_erik seems to be pretty much offline recently14:12
smcginnisThe good thing about the PTG format is it's not like we will be wasting a room and preventing others from using it if we end up not having enough to talk about.14:12
mihalis68_I wonder if we should move this "slot" for the weekly. It's obviously not working for erik14:13
smcginnisWe could do a poll again and see if there is a better time for everyone now.14:14
smcginnisEveryone's schedules have definitely shifted since we landed on this time.14:14
mihalis68_yeah, I don't worry about wasting a room, just should be up-front about how much "content" we'll have it's a sole proprietor deal this time14:14
smcginnisYeah14:14
mihalis68_I can throw up a poll, but it's hard to get suggestions for a better time from a  multiple choice poll without it becoming unwiedly14:16
smcginnisEspecially just coming back from a long break - maybe we should stick with this timeslot for awhile and then see if we actually get some momentum going again if folks think it's worth reevaluating.14:17
mihalis68_how about "For those interested in ops meetups a) keep 10 am EST b) decide a new time slot via the mailing list"14:17
mihalis68_or that!14:17
spotzhehe14:18
smcginnisI'm just afraid some of the past folks that cared might not even realize yet that things have started up again.14:18
smcginnisSo if we did a poll now, we may miss out on some good input from people that actually do care.14:18
mihalis68_I was due to fire up the twitter cannon again but didn't do that14:18
mihalis68_how about I use those summit slots to get attention and then in that thread ask for input on when to have this meeting?14:19
mihalis68_that seems to be the single best communication outlet14:19
smcginnis++14:19
mihalis68_ok14:20
spotzYeah we can definitely ask at the end of each session who's interested in joining the group and then we ask everyone for a good time?14:20
spotzEven plugging the PTG session where we can discuss the time slot as a topic:)14:20
mihalis68_I can make a separate ethernet pad for the team, meeting slot, recurrence etc14:20
smcginnisLove it when a plan comes together.14:21
mihalis68_ok seems like a plan14:21
mihalis68_the other topic that has been kicking around is adapting to the current situation by changing the idea of meetups from 2-day co-located events to frequent brief topic-based sessions - "Ops Radio" as I called it14:22
spotzRight now we're just NA and APAC but that could change and affect a time choice if we get EMEA folks14:22
smcginnisI do like that idea.14:22
mihalis68_but I think we need just a little bit more momentum and engagement14:22
mihalis68_perhaps see if there's interest in that from those that attend summit and/or ptg14:22
smcginnisFor me personally, I've found it easier to attend shorter online events than trying to block out whole days or half days.14:22
smcginnisAgree, the summit/ptg could be a great venue to try to get some interest in that.14:23
spotzI know our streams are doing good at work, it's just hard to get topics sometimes. Maybe once a quarter or something?14:23
mihalis68_I was think an hour monthly14:23
mihalis68_*thinking14:23
spotzAnd then if things get back to normal we could do a mix of live and virtual14:23
mihalis68_or even weekly14:23
mihalis68_I mean, I sometimes lose an hour accidentally deep-diving some interest14:24
mihalis68_doing a jitsi session on openstack ops would be at least as properly work related14:24
spotzmihalis68_: See what topics and speakers you can line up then figure out the cadence14:24
smcginnisWe could ask for feedback on that too. The great thing about this is as long as we can find someone that wants to talk, we can have these as frequently as there is content to give.14:24
mihalis68_yeah I think it has a lot of potential14:25
smcginnisOur local python user group has been doing monthly virtual events with one or two talks each time. The format has been working well. I could see that working just as well for ops topics.14:25
mihalis68_ok. Anything else for this meeting? I think I'd like to finish early and use the time to get on the twitter14:25
mihalis68_that's great feedback, thanks Sean14:25
spotzI'm good, also doing a webinar for work:)14:25
mihalis68_I might work on my home setup a bit. I hear real microphones are back in stock14:26
smcginnisGlad I bought a Blue Yeti way back.14:26
mihalis68_not that I want to be doing videoconferencing instead of meetups, but no choice right now14:26
mihalis68_one of the guys on our team has a setup that I think joe rogan would like14:26
spotzI've got a Rode:)14:26
smcginnisYep, we can only try to make the best of the situation. REally hoping we can meetup in person again some time next year.14:26
mihalis68_huge broadcast quality mic on a swing arm14:26
mihalis68_we can make something happen in north america, if it still exists14:27
spotzI will say having a good mic system means no one but me generally hears the dogs doing stuff:)14:27
smcginnismihalis68_: ;)14:27
mihalis68_thanks for justifing my gear lust14:27
mihalis68_ok good deal, thanks all14:28
mihalis68_last call14:28
smcginnisNothing from me.14:28
spotzI'm good14:28
mihalis68_#endmeeting14:28
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