| ttx | #startmeeting large_scale_sig | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Aug 4 15:00:26 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'large_scale_sig' | 15:00 |
| ttx | #topic Rollcall | 15:00 |
| oneswig_ | hi | 15:00 |
| ttx | oneswig_: hi! | 15:00 |
| ttx | Who else is here for the Large Scale SIG meeting? | 15:00 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 15:00 |
| ttx | Hey Belmiro, not vacationing yet? | 15:01 |
| ttx | that said, with the weather we have... | 15:01 |
| belmoreira | looking forward to the end of the week :) | 15:01 |
| ttx | belmoreira: where are you going? | 15:01 |
| ttx | pinging amorin | 15:02 |
| ttx | Our agenda for today is at: | 15:02 |
| belmoreira | I will go to Portugal and try to have some weeks next to the sea | 15:02 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting | 15:02 |
| ttx | nice, going to Southwest France / Northeast Spain myself | 15:02 |
| ttx | Alright let's get going | 15:03 |
| belmoreira | great | 15:03 |
| ttx | #topic Next OpenInfraLive session: Discussing software-defined supercomputers (August 26) | 15:03 |
| ttx | For this one, given that our usual crew is not available, I opted for something slightly different | 15:03 |
| ttx | A whole separate facet of "large scale": software-defined supercomputers! :) | 15:03 |
| ttx | oneswig_ volunteered to lead a discussion on this and opened his address book | 15:03 |
| ttx | So far we secured 4 guests: | 15:03 |
| ttx | Sadaf Alam (CTO of CSCS, the Swiss national supercomputer centre) | 15:04 |
| ttx | Happy Sithole (Director of Center for High Performance Computing (CHPC) South Africa) | 15:04 |
| ttx | Steve Quenette (Deputy Director, Monash e-Research Centre) | 15:04 |
| ttx | and of course Stig who will host the discussion. | 15:04 |
| belmoreira | this will be a great session! | 15:04 |
| oneswig_ | ttx: do you have a good example of topics for a lively discussion from previous sessions? Anything you'd like to see included? | 15:04 |
| belmoreira | thanks onewig_ | 15:04 |
| oneswig_ | hope so belmoreira! | 15:04 |
| ttx | we can brainstorm that a bit, let's talk speakers first | 15:05 |
| ttx | We have two wildcards: Gregory Orange from Pawsey, and Dorah Thobye (also from CHPC) | 15:05 |
| ttx | And finally we also have two as-yet-unanswered invitations: Jonathan Mills (NASA Goddard) and Paul Calleja (Cambridge) | 15:05 |
| ttx | I'd like to give answers to Greg and Dorah today if possible. | 15:05 |
| ttx | But I would also like to give Jon and Paul a chance to participate, while keeping the number of speakers at 6 max | 15:05 |
| ttx | So maybe the simplest is to reply "no" to our wildcards, keep the door open for Jon and Paul. Worst case scenario if they can't make it, we'll have only 4 guests. | 15:06 |
| ttx | Stig: does that make sense? | 15:06 |
| oneswig_ | I think Dorah's a substitute for Happy, if he can't make it. I don't think you would need both involved. | 15:06 |
| ttx | cool | 15:06 |
| oneswig_ | But yes that makes sense | 15:06 |
| oneswig_ | Greg is very kind to offer to stay up past midnight. | 15:07 |
| ttx | I'll be around to do the intro and outro, as well as selecting pertinent questions during the show. That way you can fully focus on leading the discussion. | 15:07 |
| oneswig_ | That would be a great help | 15:07 |
| ttx | regarding the discussion script, the idea is to work on it between now and the event... And then we can present it to the guests just before the show. | 15:07 |
| ttx | belmoreira: any tips? | 15:08 |
| ttx | I think the general idea is to have a series of base questions, but a lot of flexibility based on how the discussion goes | 15:08 |
| ttx | Start with intros and give guests the possibility to explain what they do | 15:08 |
| oneswig_ | I hope we will run out of time, rather than run out of content. Usually it works that way. | 15:09 |
| ttx | then very open questions like "unique challenges of that use case", "what role openstack plays" and then dive deeper | 15:09 |
| oneswig_ | Does the format include questions from the audience? | 15:09 |
| ttx | yes, we take questions from the audience. usually we try to take at least one early in the show to show that people can actually ask questions and be featured | 15:09 |
| ttx | You can review the last one we made as an example: | 15:10 |
| ttx | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7oN2XdI__k | 15:10 |
| oneswig_ | Super, thanks. | 15:10 |
| ttx | The platform we use allows to collect questions from all the streaming places (LinkedIn, YoutUbe...) and see them all | 15:10 |
| ttx | then you can show the question on the screen while answering it | 15:11 |
| belmoreira | having ttx monitoring the live questions is great... maybe you should also join with the questions during the discussion if you think they are pertinent... in my case it was very difficult to follow the discussion and chat... we should avoid leaving all the live questions to the end | 15:11 |
| ttx | like https://youtu.be/G7oN2XdI__k?t=1572 | 15:11 |
| ttx | Yeah the trickiest part is getting the discussion lead to acknowledge and introduce a selected question | 15:12 |
| ttx | We use the tool's internal chat for that | 15:12 |
| oneswig_ | And the moderator puts the question up on the screen? | 15:13 |
| belmoreira | ttx what you just mention earlier it great... if you see a good question just stick it in the screen and is addressed next | 15:13 |
| ttx | but at least it's a lot simpler than when a single person monitored questions, selected them and followed the discussion at the same time | 15:13 |
| ttx | our producer folks will put it on screen when we tell them | 15:14 |
| oneswig_ | That sounds easier, one less thing to worry about! | 15:14 |
| ttx | In terms of prep you need: a loose script to follow in case the discussion does not naturally develop, a list of messages banners you'd like to show. | 15:15 |
| mdelavergne | (hi, sorry for being late!) | 15:15 |
| ttx | It's a lot easier than it sounds really. Selecting the right people to have the discussion is actually the hardest part :) | 15:15 |
| ttx | If you pick the right people, the discussion naturally happens and makes the best shows | 15:15 |
| ttx | the script is there more as a backup in case the discussion stalls | 15:16 |
| oneswig_ | I think we've got a fairly chatty bunch with no shortage of opinions between them :-) | 15:16 |
| ttx | or in case there is a question you absolutely want to tackle | 15:16 |
| ttx | That's an example of a prepared banner that we can display: https://youtu.be/G7oN2XdI__k?t=2726 | 15:17 |
| ttx | Those it's good to have a list in advance so that we can enter them ahead of time | 15:17 |
| ttx | but we can also make them on the spot | 15:17 |
| oneswig_ | Is there an etherpad already for script ideas, or should I start one? | 15:17 |
| ttx | oneswig_: in Ashlee's message you have a link to a collab doc on Google docs | 15:18 |
| oneswig_ | ah, great. Thanks ttx | 15:18 |
| ttx | You can dump your thoughts there, and we can finalize them the week of the event | 15:19 |
| ttx | Any other question on how it all works? | 15:19 |
| oneswig_ | I think that's plenty for now thank you | 15:20 |
| ttx | We also have the possibility to show a few slides at the start to introduce the topic, but it's also OK if we dont have any | 15:20 |
| oneswig_ | Good to know | 15:21 |
| ttx | In our case it feels like the real highlight will be the exciting science those people do in connection with openstack, so I'd rather talk about that instead | 15:21 |
| ttx | unless you think we should ask each of them a single slide to present their setup, or something | 15:21 |
| ttx | (in which case we'd have to ask them for it) | 15:22 |
| ttx | I'm fine with whatever, especially since I won;t be much around between today and the show to help gathering them | 15:23 |
| ttx | ok, maybe we can move on to next topic? | 15:24 |
| oneswig_ | I am not sure. I don't want to impose, and it might not add much. There may be options there. | 15:24 |
| oneswig_ | go ahead | 15:24 |
| ttx | #topic Progress/Blockers | 15:24 |
| ttx | With most of the crew out of office, I suspect we don;t have much Large Scale SIG progress to report.... anything belmoreira ? | 15:24 |
| belmoreira | sorry, will try to have it ready next time | 15:25 |
| ttx | OK let's jump directly to... | 15:25 |
| ttx | #topic Next meeting | 15:25 |
| ttx | Our next scheduled IRC meeting will be... August 18. Should we have one then? | 15:25 |
| ttx | That's the week before the OpenInfra Live, so could make a good last-minute org meeting | 15:25 |
| ttx | I'm also very happy to skip it if nobody's around :) | 15:26 |
| belmoreira | I will only be around in September | 15:26 |
| ttx | oneswig_: do you want to coordinate then, or shoudl we just do emails? | 15:27 |
| oneswig_ | I should be around if there are last-minute issues | 15:27 |
| ttx | How about we do emails, and jump on IRC/Zoom if necessary | 15:27 |
| oneswig_ | Good plan | 15:28 |
| ttx | Alright, Aug 18 is a skip then! | 15:28 |
| ttx | #info next IRC meeting on Sept 1st | 15:28 |
| ttx | Our next open "Large scale openstack" slot for OpenInfra Live will be Oct 21, so that gives us time to organize. | 15:28 |
| ttx | We could do the Inception episode or the Monitoring episode, depending on who can make it. | 15:28 |
| ttx | belmoreira: you can mark your calendar already :) | 15:29 |
| oneswig_ | belmoreira: we've experimented with nova cell controllers in VMs | 15:29 |
| oneswig_ | but to avoid the recursion, they all reside in one cell that has a physical cell contoller. | 15:30 |
| ttx | #info Next OpenInfraLive slot (after Aug 26) will be Oct 21 | 15:30 |
| ttx | Alright... Anything else, anyone? | 15:30 |
| belmoreira | oneswig_ ok | 15:30 |
| ttx | belmoreira just embraces the recursion | 15:31 |
| oneswig_ | ... but does the recursion embrace back | 15:31 |
| ttx | that's one great mystery of the universe. Now that the higgs Boson is not | 15:31 |
| belmoreira | it's even better when running OpenStack in k8s clusters deployed by magnum :) | 15:32 |
| ttx | my head hurts | 15:32 |
| ttx | Alright, Boson jokes means the meeting is probably over | 15:32 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone | 15:33 |
| oneswig_ | thanks! | 15:33 |
| belmoreira | thanks | 15:33 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Aug 4 15:33:21 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2021/large_scale_sig.2021-08-04-15.00.html | 15:33 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2021/large_scale_sig.2021-08-04-15.00.txt | 15:33 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2021/large_scale_sig.2021-08-04-15.00.log.html | 15:33 |
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