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| dhellmann_ | morganfainberg_Z: I'm not sure we do have that concept. You could add a new project_scoped variable to the context and then do True:%(project_scoped)s maybe? | 11:39 |
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| abhishek | dhellmann_:hi, you around? | 11:58 |
| dhellmann | hi, abhishek | 11:58 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:could you please review this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106285/ | 11:59 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: I thought when we talked about this last time we established that it was already possible to compare values for equality. | 12:00 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:actually, it's possible when you are able to pass values in credential | 12:01 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: You can pass values through the "target" parameter as well | 12:02 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: the check is then spelled: literal_value:%(target_parameter)s (see the examples in the docstring for GenericCheck) | 12:03 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:yes, but then literal_value should be retrieved from creds | 12:04 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: it doesn't have to be, it can be an actual literal value | 12:04 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: in your spec on line 82 you have "(ntt_3251==%(x_billing_code_ntt)s" in part of an example expression | 12:07 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: you can write that now as: "ntt_3251":%(x_billing_code_ntt)s | 12:07 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:ohhh, let me check on this | 12:07 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: (note the placement of the quotes to indicate that the value on the left of the : is a literal string) | 12:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed a change to openstack/oslo.db: Move to oslo.utils https://review.openstack.org/111701 | 12:07 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: so the syntax is a little ugly, but the functionality is there | 12:08 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:I will test using this syntax | 12:08 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:thank you, I will ping you if have some doubts | 12:09 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: ok, let me know how that goes. I see markwash left a comment that this is blocking glance, so I want to make sure we clear it up quickly if that's true. | 12:09 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:yes, give me 20 minutes, I will test this part | 12:09 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: sounds good :-) | 12:10 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:brb :) | 12:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/oslo.messaging: Enable check for E226 https://review.openstack.org/108278 | 12:15 |
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| abhishek | dhellmann:"ntt_3251":%(x_billing_code_ntt)s is working | 12:27 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: great! | 12:27 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:i will confirm with mark whether he is ok with this syntax | 12:27 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: ok, sounds good | 12:27 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:thank you for pointing out | 12:31 |
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| dhellmann | abhishek: I'm sorry it took so long to figure out exactly what you were trying to do! | 12:32 |
| dhellmann | abhishek: I'll -1 that spec for now, and if you verify with markwash that the current syntax meets your needs then you can abandon it | 12:33 |
| abhishek | dhellmann:sounds good | 12:33 |
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| amrith | oslo-core, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110933/, I'd like to merge it down into trove soon as we're having a large number of failures with this bug. | 13:09 |
| amrith | also any word on a branch for oslo.concurrency? | 13:10 |
| dhellmann | amrith: YorikSar has started working on exporting oslo.concurrency already (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/graduate-oslo-concurrency) so please coordinate with him -- I don't want to land changes to modules that are in the process of being graduated and then have the fix missing from the library | 13:11 |
| amrith | dhellmann, thanks. I'll see what we can do in trove in the interim. we're having an inordinate number of these failures. the underlying issue is a bug in the python io system and I have a change in review for that but there's more testing to do on that. | 13:15 |
| amrith | dhellmann, thx | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | amrith: yep, I don't want to block the fix, just be cautious | 13:15 |
| amrith | absolutely. will coordinate with YorikSar. | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | amrith: thanks! | 13:16 |
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| gangil | Hi, I had a question regarding openstack commong logging library in oslo. Why do we not expose log serverity levels in the log module? Is there any specific reason for that? | 17:25 |
| dhellmann | gangil: the log levels are defined by the python stdlib module, and we're evolving the oslo logging code to be a library for configuring logging rather than an API wrapper for the logging module | 17:26 |
| gangil | dhellmann: but there are some cases in which we might need to reference log levels. For instance, I am refactoring neutron code to use oslo logging module instead of referencing the standard logging library | 17:27 |
| gangil | And in cases I want to set the default log level to INFO as there might be third pary modules which are logging as WARN(ing). In that case I need to reference the standard logging module | 17:28 |
| gangil | dhellmann: To be precide I am talking about this case https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/heal_script.py#L37 | 17:28 |
| gangil | dhellmann: We do that to prevent alembic module from throwing out series of WARNINGS as the default log level there is set to be WARN. | 17:29 |
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| dhellmann | gangil: when the logging code moves out of the incubator, we're going to encourage people to use the python stdlib module directly | 17:35 |
| dhellmann | gangil: so in this case, importing the stdlib module and using the logging level definition from there is appropriate | 17:36 |
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| arosen | dhellmann: gangil quick question why , "when the logging code moves out of the incubator, we're going to encourage people to use the python stdlib module directly" | 17:55 |
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| arosen | dhellmann: why wouldn't everyone just use the existing logging that they are using through oslo-incubator? | 17:56 |
| gordc | dims: dhellmann: regarding oslo.middleware, before i ask on infra who should i ask to be added in as ptl? | 17:56 |
| dhellmann | arosen: the only part of oslo.log that most projects use directly is getLogger(), which returns a wrapped log handler. We're replacing that handler with a formatter that does the same thing. That lets non-openstack projects log with the same amount of context info as openstack projects, and it removes a dependency on oslo.log with all of the other libraries, making it easier to avoid cycles. | 17:56 |
| dhellmann | gordc: the ptl group is used for release permissions. The "oslo-ptl" group should be added, and then the primary maintainer of the new library. | 17:57 |
| arosen | dhellmann: where will projects get the formatter for that instead? | 17:58 |
| arosen | I guess they would just configure logging to use that formatter manually? | 17:58 |
| dhellmann | arosen: the app will call a function in oslo.log to configure logging, as they do now, and then they can just use the stdlib logging module to get a logger | 17:59 |
| arosen | dhellmann: i see makes sense. Thanks! | 17:59 |
| dhellmann | arosen: oslo.log will be a "logging configuration" library instead of a "logging" library, if that makes sense | 17:59 |
| gordc | dhellmann: ok sounds good. i'll ask for dims and myself to be added. | 18:00 |
| dhellmann | arosen: these are good questions; I'll try to make sure I include the info in the docs for oslo.log | 18:00 |
| dhellmann | gordc: sounds good | 18:00 |
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| noelbk | Alexei_987: Cold I ask for your blessing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110511/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109373/ again, please? tempest bugs forced a few resubmissions | 18:31 |
| Alexei_987 | noelbk: Ok I will check it out | 18:31 |
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| krotscheck | So, any oslo.messaging experts here? I’m curious why it explicitly doesn’t allow for topic exchanges in rabbit - is that because that’s a feature of rabbit only that other queues may not actually support? | 18:45 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: the feature set of oslo.messaging is based on the use patterns within the openstack services, so if no one needed that we didn't grow an api for it | 18:46 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Got it! | 18:46 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: how are topic exchanges different from whatever we do support? | 18:46 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: If used properly they can delegate message filtering to rabbit. | 18:47 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: we use topics with notifications, are those set up as topic exchanges? You've probably looked at that code more recently than I have... | 18:48 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Sortof.... | 18:48 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Using the notifications, the Notifier is bound directly to a topic, and when created it creates both the exchange and the consumer queue. | 18:48 |
| krotscheck | So I can send all kinds of messages as long as they have the same topic. | 18:49 |
| dhellmann | well, it creates "a queue" -- other consumers can create their own queue | 18:49 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Correct. | 18:49 |
| dhellmann | ceilometer does that, for example | 18:49 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Yeah, I’m just not terribly fond of the idea of creating a queue that’s just going to sit there collecting messages, if my use case is heavily based on subfiltering messages. | 18:51 |
| krotscheck | i.e. I want the workers to create their own filtered queues at all times. | 18:51 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: yeah, that's probably a backwards-compatibility behavior | 18:52 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: No worries. | 18:52 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: are you sure that sending a notification creates a queue? | 18:55 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: looking at the code, I don't see that | 18:55 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: I’m going off of the reports of ish___, who was working on that for StoryBoard. | 18:56 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: ok. | 18:57 |
| krotscheck | I could be talking nonsense. | 18:57 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: AH! I think I remember why it might do that. We don't want to lose notifications, and if you send a notification to an exchange where no queue is listening, the message is discarded. | 18:57 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Right! In storyboard we don’t care quite as much, if we need a persistent queue we’ll make sure it exists when the api stands itself up. | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | krotscheck: right, this behavior is to allow the services to be started in any order safely. as you say, maybe you don't need that. | 18:59 |
| krotscheck | dhellmann: Well, maybe not yet, but it’s good to know that it’s an optino. | 19:00 |
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