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ihrachyshka | dhellmann: hey! do you have some time to proceed with unblocking oslo-incubator/juno gate? (+icehouse) | 13:23 |
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dhellmann | ihrachyshka: looking... | 13:52 |
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dhellmann | ihrachyshka: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129182/6 is approved | 13:54 |
dhellmann | ihrachyshka: that covers both issues right? or is there another patch? | 13:54 |
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ihrachyshka | dhellmann: I'm going to cherry-pick that to Icehouse in a minute | 13:55 |
dhellmann | dims: do you want to set a milestone target for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.vmware/+spec/suds-jurko-python3 ? | 13:55 |
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dhellmann | ihrachyshka: ok | 13:56 |
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ihrachyshka | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129183/ | 14:01 |
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dhellmann | ihrachyshka: ok, I'll watch for the tests to pass | 14:05 |
exploreshaifali | dims, I have modified all files to import correct modules, getting `InvocationError` any solution for this | 14:13 |
dims | exploreshaifali: review #? | 14:13 |
exploreshaifali | dims, not submitted patch right now | 14:13 |
exploreshaifali | while testing using `tox -e py27` | 14:14 |
exploreshaifali | full output pasted here http://pastebin.com/tD202vq4 | 14:14 |
dims | does 'tox -e pep8' work? | 14:14 |
exploreshaifali | dims, tox - pep8 didn't work first but I configured problem | 14:15 |
dims | safe_encode is not in str_utils | 14:15 |
dims | encode_utils | 14:15 |
dims | from oslo.utils import encodeutils | 14:16 |
dims | and then use encodeutils.safe_encode | 14:16 |
exploreshaifali | and use it every where when using oslo.utils.strutils | 14:16 |
dims | no, only for safe_encode | 14:16 |
exploreshaifali | dims, no file is importing safe_encode but I can see code `filters[param] = strutils.safe_encode(','.join(value))` | 14:19 |
exploreshaifali | so ok fine | 14:19 |
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exploreshaifali | whichever files using safe_encode I need to import ` from oslo.utils import encodeutils and then use encodeutils.safe_encode` | 14:20 |
dims | ack | 14:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Tim Kelsey proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Adding spec for trusted messaging plugin. https://review.openstack.org/128926 | 14:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Ilya Pekelny proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Moved main loop to server class https://review.openstack.org/107038 | 14:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Ilya Pekelny proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Moved main loop to server class https://review.openstack.org/133972 | 14:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.i18n: Add note for integration modules in libraries https://review.openstack.org/133991 | 16:07 |
jecarey | dhellmann, ^^ so should we change the ones that didn't do that? And all of their imports of _? | 16:09 |
jecarey | dhellmann, I'd thought it was just oslo libs and had added and update for that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128989/ | 16:10 |
dhellmann | jecarey: oh, I forgot/didn't realize you had a similar patch up. Yeah, it should be all libs -- the one that triggered my change was for python-zaqarclient | 16:12 |
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jecarey | dhellmann, I've got a large patch up for glance related to importing _ ... should I move glance to glance._i18n as well? | 16:14 |
dhellmann | jecarey: glance is an app, so it's OK for them to use i18n | 16:15 |
jecarey | dhellmann, ok ... I like that answer. | 16:16 |
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dhellmann | dims, arnaud__: I'm finally getting around to the oslo.vmware release you asked for. Is there anything special we should highlight in the release notes? | 16:23 |
dims | dhellmann: usual git log is fine i think | 16:24 |
dhellmann | ok | 16:24 |
arnaud__ | thanks dhellmann | 16:24 |
dims | thanks dhellmann | 16:24 |
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dhellmann | dims, arnaud__ : release 0.7.0 building and announced | 16:34 |
dhellmann | dims: when you have a few minutes, could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133991/ ? | 16:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/oslo.db: Add exception filter for _sqlite_dupe_key_error https://review.openstack.org/131095 | 16:37 |
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dhellmann | rpodolyaka2, jd__ : regarding the syslog patch in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133638/ -- I'm worried about backwards compatibility. Can we have a deployer set up syslog to listen on a UDP port instead of UDS? Does making the address configurable help with both requirements? I don't really understand the testing comments jd__ left. | 16:41 |
jd__ | dhellmann: by default syslog listens on /dev/log and not on UDP on most distros I guess | 16:42 |
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dhellmann | jd__: yeah, so it sounds like we've broken syslog logging by default now :-/ | 16:45 |
dims | dhellmann: lgtm | 16:46 |
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rpodolyaka2 | dhellmann: I'm all for making it configurable, but we could probably restore the original behavior first | 16:47 |
jd__ | dhellmann: yeah, so reverting now breaks it on non-Linux system, that's why I'd like to have a patch that breaks nothing at all | 16:47 |
rpodolyaka2 | np, I can make it configurable in this patch | 16:47 |
dhellmann | jd__: where do we care about non-linux systems for the incubator? | 16:48 |
jd__ | dhellmann: oslo.log isn't the incubator? and I care | 16:48 |
dhellmann | jd__: if we make the default use /dev/log is that going to work anywhere else? | 16:49 |
jd__ | dhellmann: only on (most?) Linux, it will fails with an error on all other systems | 16:49 |
jd__ | s/all// | 16:49 |
dhellmann | jd__: maybe we should do something like look at the current OS, instead of having a user-configurable option? | 16:50 |
dhellmann | although I think an option to specify the server address is probably useful for deployers, too | 16:50 |
jd__ | dhellmann: yeah we can have it configurable (some people might want to send the log via UDP to another system) and have a sane default | 16:51 |
jd__ | a sane default based on whether /dev/log is there or not | 16:51 |
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rpodolyaka2 | so we want the default value to be determined at runtime? | 16:53 |
rpodolyaka2 | (this shouldn't be a problem as long as we don't generate config samples anymore) | 16:53 |
dhellmann | rpodolyaka2: well, if it's determined at runtime maybe we don't need the option? | 16:57 |
dhellmann | rpodolyaka2, jd__ : it's not clear what the best path forward is, but I'd like to land a fix to unbreak our regular users and then fix this in some other way in oslo.log for the non-linux case. does that work? | 16:57 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Switch to oslo.middleware https://review.openstack.org/121899 | 16:57 |
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rpodolyaka2 | dhellmann: yeah, that's what I thought too. But what if a deployer wants to override it? This kind of reminds me of "In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess" :) | 16:59 |
jd__ | dhellmann: depends on your timeline and urgency I guess | 17:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.log: Add oslo.config.opts entry_points in setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/134017 | 17:50 |
dhellmann | jd__: I don't know how "urgent" it is, but we should have followed the normal deprecation process for a backwards-incompatible change like this. So I'd like for us to restore the old way quickly, and then we can talk about how to meet the new requirements of running on platforms other than linux. | 17:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: Drop hooks https://review.openstack.org/125781 | 18:01 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Remove unused module funcutils.py https://review.openstack.org/130092 | 18:04 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Remove unused module funcutils.py https://review.openstack.org/130092 | 18:06 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: deprecate crypto package https://review.openstack.org/134020 | 18:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: deprecate cache package https://review.openstack.org/134021 | 18:15 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: Remove unused module funcutils.py https://review.openstack.org/130092 | 18:15 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: deprecate apiclient package https://review.openstack.org/134024 | 18:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.i18n: Add note for integration modules in libraries https://review.openstack.org/133991 | 19:49 |
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ekarlso | zzzeek: hey, are you around for some help on alembic ? | 20:11 |
zzzeek | heya | 20:11 |
zzzeek | sure | 20:12 |
ekarlso | zzzeek: what's typically the fault when revision --autogenerate yields empty files ? | 20:12 |
zzzeek | empty as in entirelyt blank, or empty as in upgrade() downgrade() have just “pass” in them ? | 20:13 |
ekarlso | the last one | 20:13 |
zzzeek | it means no changes were detected between the database state and the given metadata | 20:13 |
zzzeek | you should be familiar with the things that autogenerate does not detect | 20:14 |
zzzeek | which are most things other than simple column and table changes | 20:14 |
ekarlso | well, i'm trying to have it pick up my initial columns at least :p | 20:14 |
ekarlso | I've given it base.BASE.metadata which is BASE = declarative.declarative_base(cls=CueBase) | 20:15 |
ekarlso | thought that should work :P | 20:15 |
zzzeek | so the target datbase is blanke so far | 20:15 |
ekarlso | yap | 20:16 |
zzzeek | ok how about put a pdb.set_trace() inside of env.py, then look inside of the metadata that is in target_metadata | 20:16 |
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zzzeek | brb | 20:17 |
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zzzeek_ | I'm temporarily here | 20:21 |
ekarlso | fixed it ;P | 20:24 |
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ekarlso | importing the models table helped alot :) | 20:24 |
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openstackgerrit | James Carey proposed openstack-dev/hacking: WIP: Add incubator hacking checks https://review.openstack.org/134052 | 21:05 |
andreykurilin_ | dhellmann, hi! | 21:11 |
dhellmann | andreykurilin_: hi | 21:11 |
andreykurilin_ | dhellmann: I read your letter "kilo graduation plans" and have question about module cliutils. | 21:13 |
dhellmann | andreykurilin_: ok | 21:14 |
andreykurilin_ | dhellmann: In etherpad, this module relate to apiclient, which is deprecated | 21:14 |
dhellmann | oh, did I leave that out of the email? | 21:14 |
andreykurilin_ | yeah:( | 21:14 |
andreykurilin_ | dhellmann: so what your plans about this module? | 21:15 |
dhellmann | yeah, ok, I think we're treating that the same way -- we want people to work on the python-openstackclient instead | 21:15 |
dhellmann | I'll follow up to the email stating that | 21:15 |
andreykurilin_ | dhellmann: hm... I look at description for python-openstacksdk : "It is very young" and I'm confused. | 21:16 |
dhellmann | andreykurilin_: thanks for pointing that out so I could clarify it | 21:16 |
dhellmann | andreykurilin_: yes, it is young, but we don't want a bunch of new features in code we're going to be throwing away so we are trying to "signal" that effort should go into the sdk and unified cli instead | 21:17 |
dhellmann | we're not deleting the incubated modules, so bug fixes can still happen, but we want new feature work to go into those other projects | 21:17 |
andreykurilin_ | dhellmann: I understand this, but way of "python-openstacksdk" looks like "make clients from scratch" | 21:20 |
dhellmann | andreykurilin_: yes, that's right | 21:20 |
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andreykurilin_ | dhellmann: hm...maybe it's for the best, but a little scary :) | 21:21 |
dhellmann | andreykurilin_: yes, I can see how that would be the case :-) | 21:23 |
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andreykurilin_ | dhellmann: apiсlient is example of my fear: unification of clients took place in several blueprints... many problems appeared, when core developers did not want to change something in their python-*client code. | 21:26 |
dhellmann | andreykurilin_: these new projects have support from many of the PTLs and TC members, so I think we will have an easier time encouraging their use. | 21:27 |
andreykurilin_ | dhellmann: this is good. thanks for clarification | 21:28 |
dhellmann | andreykurilin_: any time! and I appreciate you asking, because that's exactly why I sent those emails today :-) | 21:29 |
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andreykurilin_ | dhellmann: one more question. In mailing and in your patch(deprecation of apiclient) you mentioned python-openstackclient and python-openstacksdk. What is the difference? | 21:40 |
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andreykurilin_ | As far as I'm understand, python-openstackclient is https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient and python-openstacksdk is https://github.com/stackforge/python-openstacksdk . | 21:42 |
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dhellmann | andreykurilin_: the SDK is a low-level programming library and the client is a command line tool | 22:14 |
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