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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: deprecate apiclient package https://review.openstack.org/134024 | 00:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: deprecate cache package https://review.openstack.org/134021 | 00:14 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: deprecate crypto package https://review.openstack.org/134020 | 00:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.concurrency: Move out of the oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/134630 | 01:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134763 | 01:40 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Properly handle and skip empty intermediary flows https://review.openstack.org/135146 | 01:40 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslosphinx: provide visual separation in sidebar https://review.openstack.org/134934 | 01:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/oslo.config: Fix wrong order of positional args in cli https://review.openstack.org/135150 | 02:24 |
openstackgerrit | Peng Wu proposed openstack/oslo.i18n: Support contextual and plural form of gettext functions https://review.openstack.org/134850 | 02:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/oslo.config: Fix wrong order of positional args in cli https://review.openstack.org/135150 | 02:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Properly handle and skip empty intermediary flows https://review.openstack.org/135146 | 03:04 |
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openstackgerrit | James Page proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Add basic tests for 0mq matchmakers https://review.openstack.org/128205 | 03:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.utils: Add 'auth_password' in _SANITIZE_KEYS for strutils https://review.openstack.org/129515 | 03:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Properly handle and skip empty intermediary flows https://review.openstack.org/135146 | 05:45 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/132620 | 06:11 |
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flaper87 | dims: hey, any chance you can get back to this review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134017/ | 07:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Remove sslutils https://review.openstack.org/126505 | 09:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/oslo.config: Fix wrong order of positional args in cli https://review.openstack.org/135150 | 11:12 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/135233 | 11:29 |
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dims | flaper87: am on it | 11:34 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/135241 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.config: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134780 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.db: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134781 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.log: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134782 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134783 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134784 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134785 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/135242 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.version: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/127785 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134788 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslotest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134787 | 11:36 |
openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.log: Add oslo.config.opts entry_points in setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/134017 | 11:37 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/135247 | 11:37 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/135233 | 12:07 |
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denis_makogon | sileht, ping | 12:25 |
denis_makogon | flaper87, ping =) | 12:28 |
denis_makogon | i've been noticing that new tox targets for are cannot be executed against infra gate due to error in job template (see job log http://logs.openstack.org/37/130437/6/experimental/gate-oslo.messaging-dsvm-functional-rabbit/f12eb0f/console.html and https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/oslo.yaml#L60-L79), is someone already working on it? | 12:30 |
denis_makogon | it seems that case statement is incorrect a bit =) http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_07_03.html | 12:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/135241 | 12:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: uses kombu instead of builtin stuffs https://review.openstack.org/135275 | 12:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Move each drivers options into its own group https://review.openstack.org/120038 | 12:56 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove unuseful param of the ConnectionContext https://review.openstack.org/122096 | 12:58 |
dims | flaper87: jd__: may i request a handful of reviews for oslo.context? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.context,n,z | 12:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: safe_log Sanitize Passwords in List of Dicts https://review.openstack.org/123759 | 13:05 |
dhellmann | jd__: could you set the topic on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135265/ to the blueprint? I can't do that through the GUI | 13:09 |
dhellmann | dims: could you set the topic on https://review.openstack.org/135094 to the blueprint? I can't do that through the GUI | 13:09 |
flaper87 | dims: yes sir | 13:09 |
dims | dhellmann: i set it to "bp/graduate-oslo-context". right? | 13:10 |
dims | flaper87: Thanks! | 13:10 |
dhellmann | dims: yep, thanks | 13:10 |
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dhellmann | dims: I added that to the commit message, but that didn't change the topic in gerrit (please make sure it's still in the commit message, too, when you update) | 13:10 |
dims | dhellmann: ack. yes, it's still there | 13:11 |
dhellmann | dims: cool, thanks | 13:11 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslotest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134787 | 13:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: make COOKIECUTTER_TEMPLATE_REPO configurable https://review.openstack.org/134254 | 13:13 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: fix shell syntax in set_roots https://review.openstack.org/134255 | 13:13 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Don't set up new repository with namespace package https://review.openstack.org/134256 | 13:13 |
openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/oslo.config: Fix wrong order of positional args in cli https://review.openstack.org/135150 | 13:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/oslo.db: Make test_models pass on py3 https://review.openstack.org/134971 | 14:03 |
openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/oslo.db: Ensure is_backend_avail() doesn't leave open connections https://review.openstack.org/135293 | 14:04 |
openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/oslo.db: Ensure is_backend_avail() doesn't leave open connections https://review.openstack.org/135293 | 14:05 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: uses kombu instead of builtin stuffs https://review.openstack.org/135275 | 14:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.middleware: Flesh out the README https://review.openstack.org/135126 | 14:49 |
openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Implements notification-dispatcher-filter https://review.openstack.org/77886 | 14:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.log: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134782 | 15:03 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.config: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134780 | 15:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134788 | 15:07 |
openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Create ZeroMQ Context per socket https://review.openstack.org/126914 | 15:07 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134783 | 15:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134785 | 15:17 |
openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Create ZeroMQ Context per socket https://review.openstack.org/126914 | 15:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: make COOKIECUTTER_TEMPLATE_REPO configurable https://review.openstack.org/134254 | 15:29 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: fix shell syntax in set_roots https://review.openstack.org/134255 | 15:30 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-incubator: Don't set up new repository with namespace package https://review.openstack.org/134256 | 15:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Add get_my_ip() https://review.openstack.org/125096 | 15:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cliff: print the real error cmd argument https://review.openstack.org/131950 | 15:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/oslo.db: Make test_models pass on py3 https://review.openstack.org/134971 | 16:19 |
openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/oslo.db: Make test_models pass on py3 https://review.openstack.org/134971 | 16:22 |
viktors | zzzeek: hi! | 16:28 |
zzzeek | hi viktors | 16:28 |
viktors | zzzeek: yesterday I've restored fix for oslo.db's migrate_cli. Please, look at that patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134885 - when you'll have a time | 16:29 |
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zzzeek | viktors: I noticed that. I didnt see anything “wrong” though i’m not deeply familair with how that thing works | 16:30 |
viktors | zzzeek: well, some folks worried, because of using private _upgrade_revs() method. | 16:31 |
viktors | can we replace it in a some way? | 16:31 |
zzzeek | viktors: im not too worried about that | 16:31 |
viktors | zzzeek: so can we move on with it? | 16:32 |
zzzeek | viktors: why doesnt the upgrade() and downgrade() methods here just call into alembic.command.upgrade/downgrade | 16:33 |
zzzeek | _upgrade_revs is actually going to change what it does very soon, however, this code wouldnt’ break because it has to do with what it returns and how it is consumed by “fn” | 16:34 |
viktors | zzzeek: hmm, actually, I don't remember | 16:34 |
viktors | maybe rpodolyaka1 does | 16:35 |
rpodolyaka1 | AFAIR, you can't pass an existing Connection/Engine instance to alembic.command.upgrade/downgrade | 16:35 |
rpodolyaka1 | though, you probably could create a EnvironmentContext specifying a DB url | 16:36 |
rpodolyaka1 | this should be ok for mysql/postgresql, but won't work for e.g. sqlite in-memory | 16:37 |
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rpodolyaka1 | I think that's the reason the patch is more complicated than it really should be | 16:38 |
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viktors | yes, this sounds reasonable | 16:39 |
viktors | zzzeek: please look at ^ | 16:40 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: the env.py file controls where the connection comes from. you can have it go look wherever you want for it. you could put a custom variable into the Config and then have env.py puill it out | 16:41 |
zzzeek | now if the issue is, “we cant control env.py”, that’s a bug, that’s why i want everyone using a standard oslo.db function for their env.py | 16:42 |
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rpodolyaka1 | ok, we should really make env.py common then :) | 16:59 |
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zzzeek | wow rpodolyaka1 thanks for the quick action on https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1393633, sorry about that! | 17:17 |
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rpodolyaka1 | zzzeek: np | 17:18 |
rpodolyaka1 | that's an interesting one | 17:18 |
rpodolyaka1 | I wonder what causes CPython to behave differently... | 17:19 |
zzzeek | those engines werent getting garbage collected? | 17:19 |
rpodolyaka1 | looks like that | 17:19 |
zzzeek | that is…strange ? | 17:19 |
zzzeek | perhaps if the PG connections have a __del__ in there | 17:19 |
zzzeek | but…ive never observed that | 17:20 |
rpodolyaka1 | well, I mean, Python doesn't guarantee us when __del__ is called, but I'd expect CPython runs of this be consistent | 17:20 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: oh. it might collect too *late* | 17:20 |
rpodolyaka1 | my understanding was CPython uses reference counting and should delete objects right away when counter reaches 0 | 17:21 |
rpodolyaka1 | while PyPy or Jython on other hand might postpone garbage collection | 17:22 |
rpodolyaka1 | it would be nice to run our unit tests on PyPy to find such bugs earlier | 17:22 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: if the system has cycles, it is collected asynchrnously | 17:23 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: yes pypy finds these a lot quicker | 17:23 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: anything I write that is more than 300 lines is usually bound to have cycles :) | 17:23 |
rpodolyaka1 | heh | 17:23 |
rpodolyaka1 | psycopg2 and mysqldb are probably not "pypy friendly" | 17:24 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: actually there might not be cycles in the connection pool as I’ve optimized it to not have any, b.c. the GC thing is critical there. | 17:24 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: there’s a separate psycopg2 for pypy | 17:24 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: there’s a PR for SQLAlchemy i need to pull in for it | 17:24 |
rpodolyaka1 | cool! | 17:25 |
openstackgerrit | Alessandro Pilotti proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixes exceptions logging decoding issue https://review.openstack.org/135368 | 17:27 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: dont suppose you’re interested in working on SQLA issues :) | 17:27 |
rpodolyaka1 | zzzeek: I believe, I've already fixed a couple ;) | 17:28 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: yup… but im way behind on lots of commits that just need tests / changelogs etc. written: https://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/sqlalchemy/issues?status=new&status=open&milestone=1.0 you konw just grunt work :) | 17:29 |
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rpodolyaka1 | zzzeek: if you need a hand with, I could give it a try | 17:33 |
rpodolyaka1 | *that | 17:33 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: only if your work supports you in it, i dont want to take from your personal time | 17:34 |
rpodolyaka1 | zzzeek: no, that's actually kind of interesting to me :) | 17:34 |
rpodolyaka1 | zzzeek: I will take a look closer to weekend | 17:35 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Enforce import group ordering https://review.openstack.org/54403 | 17:35 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: im marking easier ones in the 1.0 milestone with “sqlalchemy sprinters" | 17:35 |
bnemec | jogo: ^ | 17:35 |
rpodolyaka1 | zzzeek: there seems to be an open ticket for the unique constraint reflection.. | 17:35 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: where there’s already a small patch or its a one liner | 17:35 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: theres a PR for it, its done, i just need to review and test it | 17:36 |
zzzeek | rpodolyaka1: also i need to see how it breaks alembic | 17:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Alessandro Pilotti proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixes exceptions logging decoding issue https://review.openstack.org/135368 | 17:39 |
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openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/oslo-specs: messaging: notification dispatcher filter https://review.openstack.org/135379 | 17:55 |
openstackgerrit | Alessandro Pilotti proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixes exceptions logging decoding issue https://review.openstack.org/135368 | 17:55 |
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jogo | bnemec: awesome, will review today | 18:09 |
jogo | bnemec: once that and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134052/ land I think we will be ready to cut the next hacking | 18:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.db: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/134781 | 18:50 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Move files out of the namespace package https://review.openstack.org/134660 | 18:53 |
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openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/oslo-specs: messaging: notification dispatcher filter https://review.openstack.org/135379 | 19:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Alessandro Pilotti proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixes exceptions logging decoding issue https://review.openstack.org/135368 | 19:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Alessandro Pilotti proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixes exceptions logging decoding issue https://review.openstack.org/135368 | 19:40 |
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bknudson | do we have translations in all the oslo libraries? | 19:42 |
bknudson | just wondering because I changed keystonemiddleware to use _(), etc. | 19:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Alessandro Pilotti proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixes unicode logging decoding issue https://review.openstack.org/135368 | 19:46 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/135247 | 19:49 |
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arnaud | hi guys | 20:14 |
arnaud | I have a question | 20:14 |
arnaud | devstack stable/icehouse uses oslo.messaging master (https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/stable/icehouse/stackrc#L178) | 20:14 |
arnaud | oslo.messaging master has a dependency on oslo.middleware (https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/requirements.txt#L28) | 20:15 |
arnaud | devstack stable/icehouse uses requirements stable/icehouse (https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/stable/icehouse/stackrc#L214) | 20:15 |
arnaud | which doesn't contain oslo.middleware https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/icehouse/global-requirements.txt | 20:15 |
arnaud | does that mean that devstack is broken?! | 20:15 |
harlowja | arnaud i did see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134727/ pass by, but i'm not sure on the current status anymore, it seems similar | 20:18 |
harlowja | 'ok, oslo.messaging is still using alpha versioning, on current master version is oslo.messaging-1.4.1.74.g6eb0d2f | 20:18 |
harlowja | We can change to <1.5.0 once oslo moves to semver.' | 20:18 |
harlowja | ? | 20:18 |
harlowja | ^ the last comment in that review | 20:18 |
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harlowja | so does that mean we (oslo folks) have to do something, not sure | 20:18 |
harlowja | maybe someday needs to tag oslo.messaging to 1.5.0 ? | 20:19 |
harlowja | or put up a review that forces the version that pbr uses to do that | 20:19 |
arnaud | harlowja: I also asked the question on openstack-dev | 20:21 |
harlowja | kk | 20:21 |
harlowja | confusing :-P | 20:21 |
arnaud | clarkb suggested to add the dependency to requirements stable/icehouse | 20:21 |
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harlowja | maybe just a clone of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134727/ that does that? | 20:22 |
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arnaud | yes | 20:23 |
arnaud | I guess harlowja | 20:23 |
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harlowja | arnaud wanna do that or should i? | 20:25 |
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arnaud | I won't have the time in the next hour, but later today I can do it :) | 20:26 |
harlowja | i got it covered then, will get this going through the system :) | 20:26 |
arnaud | kk | 20:26 |
arnaud | thanks harlowja | 20:26 |
ekarlso- | hEY GUYW | 20:27 |
ekarlso- | .. hey guys | 20:27 |
harlowja | heyyyyyyyyyy | 20:27 |
ekarlso- | do you guys have a recommendation for a db api pattern ? | 20:27 |
ekarlso- | aka using objects or connection / api plugins ? | 20:27 |
harlowja | arnaud https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135415/ | 20:30 |
harlowja | lets see what happens | 20:30 |
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harlowja | ekarlso- i've seen both | 20:36 |
harlowja | imho there isn't 1 way that is better; up to u, your usage, ... | 20:36 |
harlowja | *your desired api... | 20:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.context: Generate better documentation for the module https://review.openstack.org/135103 | 20:55 |
openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.context: Better information in the README https://review.openstack.org/135100 | 20:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.context: Better information in the README https://review.openstack.org/135100 | 20:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Properly handle and skip empty intermediary flows https://review.openstack.org/135146 | 21:16 |
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dhellmann | bknudson: we do not yet have translations in all of the libraries, but we plan to | 22:10 |
bknudson | dhellmann: seems like we'd need to get translations done for every release? | 22:11 |
bknudson | i.e., get the translation team to provide new po files. | 22:11 |
dhellmann | bknudson: yeah, Andreas has done some work to set up the translation jobs, but we haven't marked the strings for translations everywhere yet | 22:15 |
dhellmann | bknudson: I plan to do that after we finish the big graduation push, so probably next cycle (unless someone wants to start now) | 22:16 |
bknudson | dhellmann: just mark the strings for translation? | 22:16 |
dhellmann | bknudson: yeah, and add oslo.i18n where it isn't already a dependency | 22:16 |
bknudson | dhellmann: I'll put it on my list (I've got a long list) | 22:17 |
dhellmann | bknudson: don't we all :-) | 22:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Move files out of the namespace package https://review.openstack.org/134660 | 22:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-specs: db: Make EngineFacade a Facade https://review.openstack.org/125181 | 22:49 |
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gordc | dhellmann: seems like new wsme release might be breaking ceilometer py33 gate: http://paste.openstack.org/show/134519/ | 22:51 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-specs: db: Add long-lived-transactionalized-db-fixtures https://review.openstack.org/117335 | 22:51 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-specs: cache: Convert oslo.cache to use dogpile.cache https://review.openstack.org/124776 | 22:52 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-specs: middleware: oslo.middleware healthcheck https://review.openstack.org/130453 | 22:52 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-specs: Propose tooz adoption https://review.openstack.org/122439 | 22:53 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo-specs: context: graduate-oslo-context https://review.openstack.org/131544 | 22:53 |
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dhellmann | gordc: that is extremely unfortunate | 23:12 |
dhellmann | gordc: oh, that's actually ipaddr, not wsme | 23:12 |
dhellmann | gordc: unfortunately, I have to sign off for the evening, but I'll check back tomorrow morning and see if anyone has tracked down whether there was an ipaddr release, too | 23:13 |
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