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| harlowja | haypo i started https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164035/ as a place to merge the 2 specs; if u want to merge over your stuff that'd be cool | 00:21 |
| harlowja | or adjust it however u want | 00:21 |
| harlowja | i started copying over your stuff, but it seems like u would know best what to retain/not retain | 00:21 |
| harlowja | 'Replace eventlet + monkey-patching with ??' super-meta-spec, lol | 00:22 |
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| harlowja | haypo i'm thinking 1 big section with 'why' (at the top); then sections after that with proposals for replacements | 00:33 |
| harlowja | to address the 'why' first, and then have potential ways to get around it (which are not quite so useful proposals if nobody agrees about the initial 'why') | 00:34 |
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| innosam | Hi, a question on scalability. Does enabling notifications in nova and neutron have scalability impact | 05:43 |
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| haypo | if someone wants to do review today, take a look at my old patch for oslo messaging for fixing namespaces in tests ;) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147549/ | 13:43 |
| haypo | already +2 by sileht :-p | 13:43 |
| dhellmann | haypo: +2a | 13:54 |
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| haypo | dhellmann: one more baby step to get rid of the oslo namespace :) | 14:00 |
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| dims | haypo: yay | 14:21 |
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| dhellmann | the stable/kilo branches are all done except for the incubator | 14:36 |
| dhellmann | ttx: should I do something special to create the stable/kilo branch for the incubator? | 14:36 |
| elarson | pleia2: I'll keep an eye out then for oslo.cache in the next week or two. feel free to ping me if there is something that could use some attention | 14:38 |
| ttx | hmm, not that I can think of... We usually do it at release time, but I don't think I actually care | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ok, I wasn't sure if there was a special script or something. I suppose we should wait for the other projects before branching that repo, in case we have fixes to release. | 14:39 |
| ttx | no, that one is manual | 14:41 |
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| dhellmann | ok, that's easy enough now that I have permissions :-) | 14:42 |
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| dimsum__ | dhellmann: when are we going to bump g-r? with latest oslo releases? | 16:39 |
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| elarson | hmm... I might be thinking about the cfg.CONF object the wrong way but this seems broken. this is part of a traceback: http://paste.openstack.org/show/192128/ | 16:44 |
| elarson | I would assuming that doing cfg.CONF.get() *wouldn't* raise an exception | 16:44 |
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| * elarson does a bit more reading | 16:47 | |
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| pleia2 | elarson: thanks, if you have the time, feel free to start making progress on your end, with my mentee working through finals this week I think coming back to some code in progress may actually be valuable to her | 17:00 |
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| harlowja | lifeless u might also be interested in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164035/ | 17:04 |
| harlowja | guess i'll try to adjust/tweak that more today, haypo if u can to that'd be nice | 17:04 |
| elarson | pleia2: was there a repo? | 17:05 |
| pleia2 | elarson: there's not, the oslo.cache repo needs to be created | 17:06 |
| * elarson wonders if he needs some permission bits to do that | 17:10 | |
| pleia2 | elarson: it goes through code review, so everyone does, I'll get you some links | 17:11 |
| elarson | pleia2: thanks! | 17:11 |
| pleia2 | elarson: so this is the long version, which I recommend you reading so you have a broad understanding of how creating a project works: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html | 17:12 |
| pleia2 | elarson: on the technical side, you can start here: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#add-project-to-the-governance-repository need to "Add Project to the Governance Repository" and "Adding the Repository to the CI System" | 17:13 |
| pleia2 | (as you can see, that link is a section of the first link I gave, so you'll get to it) | 17:13 |
| elarson | indeed I will :) | 17:14 |
| elarson | I skimmed the doc the other day, so I'll take a deeper dive today | 17:14 |
| pleia2 | in this case, all oslo projects are in openstack/ so they do need the governance change, which dhellmann will have to approve, along with some fols on the technical committee | 17:14 |
| pleia2 | great :) let me know if you have any questions | 17:14 |
| elarson | will do! thanks! | 17:14 |
| pleia2 | you can also ask in #openstack-infra if I'm not around | 17:15 |
| elarson | ah great | 17:15 |
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| haypo | harlowja: i saw your spec, i don't have time to work on it right now. but thanks! | 17:21 |
| haypo | (i have to go) | 17:21 |
| harlowja | haypo k | 17:21 |
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| dimsum__ | elarson: we have a wiki page in oslo-lang as well https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/CreatingANewLibrary | 17:48 |
| dimsum__ | s/lang/land/ | 17:48 |
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| elarson | dimsum__: thanks! | 18:25 |
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| rjaiswal | @here: using oslo.config register_cli_opt to register cli options and get this error: ArgsAlreadyParsedError: arguments already parsed: cannot register CLI option | 19:08 |
| rjaiswal | tried upgrading oslo.config from 1.6.0 to 1.9.3, but still get the error | 19:09 |
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| elarson | so I think I blew it already. I used oslo-drivers as the maintainer for oslo.cache, but that means I can't edit the rest of the project as mentioned http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#put-your-new-project-in-the-correct-project-group | 20:03 |
| elarson | If someone wants to assign me as the maintainer, I'll pick up where I left off on the creation process | 20:05 |
| elarson | sorry about that :( | 20:05 |
| * elarson on launchpad is https://launchpad.net/~eric-larson | 20:05 | |
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| Ritz | Hello can anyone please direct me the right documentation for oslo messaging example. My design is to have a set of 3 servers listening to a queue on Rabbit mq using oslo messaging | 20:06 |
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| dimsum__ | Ritz: you can borrow from the simulator tool - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.messaging/tree/tools/simulator.py | 20:10 |
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| Ritz | Thanks dimsum__ apreciate it ! | 20:12 |
| Ritz | so do you know the difference between rpc-server and notify-sever | 20:15 |
| Ritz | i had earlier written a program to use notify-server but ran into some issues and more examples suggest i should use rpc server | 20:16 |
| Ritz | my require is to send a message onto a queue and any one of the 3 servers listening to the queue should pick up the message | 20:17 |
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| elarson | dimsum__: if you are a member of the oslo-drivers and wanted to make me the maintainer of oslo.cache, I'd be happy to finish up the configuration in launchpad | 20:37 |
| elarson | pleia2, dhellmann: ^^^ | 20:37 |
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| dimsum__ | elarson: you are listed as "Driver" no? | 20:41 |
| elarson | dimsum__: yes, that is correct | 20:41 |
| dimsum__ | elarson: i don't have karma to add you oslo drivers | 20:44 |
| dimsum__ | looking at https://launchpad.net/oslo.utils | 20:44 |
| dimsum__ | both the Driver and Maintainer is set to "Oslo Drivers" | 20:44 |
| dhellmann | dimsum__: the g-r patch for kilo is https://review.openstack.org/162656 | 20:45 |
| elarson | dimsum__: I had a couple more steps in the creators process before I was supposed to switch things over. | 20:45 |
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| dhellmann | pleia2, elarson : we have extra steps you might need to follow for creating a new library, so please start from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/CreatingANewLibrary | 20:46 |
| dimsum__ | dhellmann: y already pointed that out | 20:46 |
| * dhellmann sees dimsum__ sent that link already | 20:46 | |
| elarson | dhellmann: I have that open as well | 20:46 |
| * elarson still screwed up... but at least I'm reading the docs ;) | 20:47 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Just let the future executors handle the max workers https://review.openstack.org/164352 | 21:33 |
| pleia2 | dhellmann: ah thanks, I had forgotten about that | 21:33 |
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| lifeless | harlowja: I thought we'd been asked to write one unified spec? | 22:03 |
| Ritz | can any one please suggest me if "from gevent import monkey monkey.patch_all()" or "import eventlet eventlet.monkey_patch()" is the right way to patch | 22:03 |
| harlowja | lifeless i thought so to, lol | 22:03 |
| harlowja | brb | 22:04 |
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| Ritz | the reason i am askign is when i use patch_all() i get this warning in the log | 22:04 |
| Ritz | 2015-03-13 18:48:13,874 - oslo_messaging._executors.impl_eventlet - DEBUG - eventlet executor in use but the threading module has not been monkeypatched or has been monkeypatched | 22:04 |
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| harlowja | lifeless so what do u think, i'm fine with one big co-authored spec :-P | 22:07 |
| harlowja | but it might turn into a book, lol | 22:07 |
| harlowja | 500 page spec, lol | 22:07 |
| harlowja | Ritz thats really a hard question to answer without more context ;) | 22:10 |
| Ritz | thanks "harlowja" i started with writing a listener server = messaging.get_notification_listener(transport, targets, endpoints, allow_requeue=True, executor='eventlet') | 22:12 |
| Ritz | problem is when i use eventlet i get the following error | 22:13 |
| Ritz | 2015-03-13 22:10:41,616 - root - ERROR - Error in executing playbook[Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/stack/venvs/openstack/lib/python2.7/site-packages/attis_server-1.0.0a1-py2.7.egg/attis/engine/contentprocessor.py", line 119, in runPlaybook pb.run() File "/opt/stack/venvs/openstack/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ansible/playbook/__init__.py", line 347, in run | 22:13 |
| Ritz | I rememeber last time you suggested try using blocked | 22:13 |
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| Ritz | but if i do that it is blocking all calls till current call finishes | 22:14 |
| Ritz | so i really want to get the eventlet handler to work | 22:14 |
| harlowja | k, ya, thats all ansible stuff right, which i'm not sure if it works so well with eventlet | 22:14 |
| harlowja | u can try the thread executor, that might fit better | 22:15 |
| harlowja | 'Resource temporarily unavailable' likely needs more information to; i thought there was something multiprocessing related | 22:16 |
| harlowja | which may mean that ansible doesn't work so well with eventlet | 22:16 |
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| harlowja | u might be better asking on some ansible channel if thats the case | 22:21 |
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| Ritz | yes they use mutiprocessing and i have been reading that mutiprocessing and eventlet dont go well | 22:25 |
| harlowja | ya, then that might be why u want to avoid eventlet :) | 22:25 |
| Ritz | but would like to know if swtching to rpc instead of notify will make any difference | 22:25 |
| harlowja | unsure, how would that avoid eventlet? | 22:26 |
| Ritz | right just a thought .. | 22:26 |
| Ritz | but do you think it is ansible problem | 22:26 |
| Ritz | any mutiprocessing with eventlet then wont work i guess ? | 22:26 |
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| Ritz | on a different note ... what are my options ... You mentioned "thread executor" | 22:27 |
| Ritz | only 2 options i saw was eventlet and blocked | 22:27 |
| harlowja | not sure, the eventlet folks would probably know the best how well it works (but i've heard similar things to what u are saying in that it may/may not work) | 22:27 |
| Ritz | can u please elaborate what "thread executor" is | 22:28 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/setup.cfg#L44 | 22:28 |
| harlowja | one that uses threads | 22:28 |
| harlowja | i think that just got released | 22:28 |
| harlowja | aioeventlet also, but i think thats still eventlet in there | 22:28 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/_executors/impl_thread.py#L29 | 22:29 |
| harlowja | that may work better in your situation | 22:29 |
| Ritz | ok cool ! | 22:30 |
| Ritz | unfortunately i need to make it work in a virtual env having oslo messaging 1.5.0 | 22:31 |
| Ritz | looks like this one might be bleeding edge :) | 22:31 |
| harlowja | ya, it might be | 22:32 |
| harlowja | then another idea, why not have a forked-worker pool (created before patching) that u have your oslo.messaging program (with eventlet patched) submit work into? | 22:33 |
| harlowja | those forked-workers can do whatever in ansible | 22:33 |
| harlowja | then eventlet+oslo.messaging program just 'drops' work for the other workers to do | 22:34 |
| harlowja | and then the forked workers aren't affected by evnetlet | 22:34 |
| harlowja | https://docs.python.org/2/library/multiprocessing.html#using-a-pool-of-workers maybe... | 22:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use a collections.namedtuple for the request work unit https://review.openstack.org/164365 | 22:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow: Allow the storage unit to use the right scoping strategy https://review.openstack.org/163652 | 22:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow: Allow passing 'many_handler' to fetch_all function https://review.openstack.org/164001 | 22:49 |
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| Ritz | Thanks harlowja i took some time to digest your thoughts .... looks promising !! | 23:07 |
| harlowja | np, probably more ways to work through this | 23:08 |
| Ritz | ok... 1 more question if you dont mind .. i observed that whenever there were errors in my processing the message remained in the queue. Is there a way i can configure and say rmoeve it from queue as soon as i start working on it | 23:09 |
| Ritz | i tried requeue=False | 23:10 |
| Ritz | but that doesnt seem to do the trick | 23:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Have this example exit non-zero if incorrect results https://review.openstack.org/164373 | 23:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Add FETCHING notification state (not persisted) https://review.openstack.org/161858 | 23:31 |
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| harlowja | Ritz not sure | 23:32 |
| Ritz | no worries at least you have unblocked me .. will work on the 2 approaches u gave me .. thanks again ! | 23:34 |
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| harlowja | np | 23:46 |
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