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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslotest: Remove unused discover dependency  https://review.openstack.org/17782800:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo-incubator: Port service to Python 3  https://review.openstack.org/17785101:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo-incubator: Add svg files for team mascot  https://review.openstack.org/18062701:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Adds missing WebOb in requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/18168001:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.context: Do not sync run_cross_tests.sh  https://review.openstack.org/18028001:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.db: Remove run_cross_tests.sh  https://review.openstack.org/17947301:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Add RequestContextSerializer  https://review.openstack.org/17977201:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware: Update response body when healthcheck is available  https://review.openstack.org/17711001:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.log: Remove run_cross_tests.sh  https://review.openstack.org/17947501:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: zmq: Add support for ZmqClient pooling  https://review.openstack.org/17688301:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.vmware: Use suds-jurko on Python 2  https://review.openstack.org/18008701:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config: Fix issue when generating code with cfg.OptGroup  https://review.openstack.org/18073501:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.i18n: Improve fixture documentation  https://review.openstack.org/14537501:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.db: Sort model fields using getattr(), not inspect()  https://review.openstack.org/18020601:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.vmware: Add SPBM WSDL for vSphere 6.0  https://review.openstack.org/17667101:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.vmware: Add utility function to get profiles by IDs  https://review.openstack.org/17768501:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.log: move versionutils into place  https://review.openstack.org/16776702:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.log: Log deprecation message when catching deprecated exceptions  https://review.openstack.org/17817102:07
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Finish removing invocations of pip.  https://review.openstack.org/18178502:19
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Finish removing invocations of pip.  https://review.openstack.org/18178502:40
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Finish removing invocations of pip.  https://review.openstack.org/18178504:53
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Teach pbr to read extras from setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/18179505:29
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Teach pbr to read extras from setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/18179505:49
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix consumers declaration  https://review.openstack.org/17927106:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused consumer interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/17915306:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: smarter declaration of the notif. queue  https://review.openstack.org/17927006:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused code  https://review.openstack.org/17915206:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Set timeout on the underlying socket  https://review.openstack.org/17935706:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Bump kombu and amqp requirements  https://review.openstack.org/17935606:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: TEST: enable heartbeat  https://review.openstack.org/17935906:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: smart timeout on missing exchange  https://review.openstack.org/18090506:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: redeclare consumers when ack/requeue fail  https://review.openstack.org/18005906:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove publisher classes  https://review.openstack.org/18012906:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix exception path in queue redeclaration  https://review.openstack.org/17927506:51
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Remove unused stuffs from publisher  https://review.openstack.org/17913006:51
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Teach pbr to read extras from setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/18179507:15
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Teach pbr to read extras from setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/18179507:25
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haypoi see that moose logo was added to oslo incubator doc, but where can i read this doc online?09:51
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thervejd__, The pypy failures seem to affect many project, and look infra related10:01
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jd__therve: ok :(10:01
thervejd__, Some pip/setuptools weirdness10:01
jd__haypo: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo-incubator/ ?10:01
jd__therve: we should switch to Go10:01
therveDude, it's monday10:02
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jd__fair enough :D10:04
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haypojd__, i don't see moose there :-p10:07
jd__haypo: you sure it is linked from the doc?10:07
jd__haypo: what's the patch?10:08
haypojd__, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180627/10:08
haypojd__, the change adds pictures but don't use them10:08
jd__haypo: so how can you expect to see them in the doc?10:08
* jd__ kicks haypo in the nuts10:09
haypojd__, i tried to understand the change10:09
haypojd__, i don't know what are these "team mascot" (where they are supposed to be seen)10:09
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jd__haypo: no where for now, we're just going to use them to produce material for the summit AFAIK10:10
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haypook10:11
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shardyjd__: Hey, I just sent a mail to the list re the pypy test failures10:19
shardyit appears heatclient is similarly impacted atm, I sent what (little) info I know to the ML10:20
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jd__thanks shardy10:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr: Advertise support for Python3.4  https://review.openstack.org/18152510:56
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Remove support for Python 3.3  https://review.openstack.org/18152911:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config: Advertise support for Python3.4 / Remove support for 3.3  https://review.openstack.org/18153811:04
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haypojd__, sileht : congrats for gnocchi 1.0 ;)12:54
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jd__thanks haypo13:03
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silehthaypo, thx13:08
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.concurrency: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18190014:03
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18190114:03
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18122314:03
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslotest: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18122814:03
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18190214:04
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/tooz: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18124914:04
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jd__did we add harlowja to oslo-core already or not?14:16
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jd__did we add harlowja to oslo-core already or not? (repeating for dims :)14:16
dimsjd__: already done14:17
jd__ok cool14:17
jd__I can consider his +1 as +2 :)14:17
* dims will be online off and on. harlowja graciously agreed to host the weekly meeting today14:17
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dimsjd__: yep14:18
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dhellmanndims: I wonder if we should do something like this for managing the core team list? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18139414:19
dimsdhellmann: anyone other than ceilometer using that pattern?14:22
haypodims, hi. for suds, i still see "import suds" in the nimble driver of cinder, so i understand that suds is still required in cinder. am i right? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180130/14:24
dimshaypo: y. vipin should be able to help clean that up14:25
haypodims, what do you mean by "clean that up"? we should keep the suds dependency in cinder, no?14:25
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dimshaypo: i meant doing the same thing we did in nova. remove references and then drop the dependency14:26
dhellmanndims: I think I saw someone else doing something similar, let me see if I can find it14:27
haypodims, in nova, only a very simple function was used. in cinder, the client class is instanciated. do you mean that the nimble driver should be modified to use oslo vmware instead of using suds?14:28
dimsdhellmann: we could use oslo-incubator repo as our home base? will still need me to edit the list on review.openstack.org,14:28
haypoi don't know anything about suds or oslo.vmware :-p14:28
dhellmanndims: yeah, gerrit would just be for voting -- there was a discussion of moving that off of the mailing list14:28
dimshaypo: y for now, let's just switch it from suds to suds-jurko14:28
dhellmannhaypo: I think we're talking about 2 different things14:28
haypodhellmann, hi. great news, oslo incubator is now 100% compatible with python 3 ;) i ported the remaining file (service.py) and dropped the whitelist from tox.ini ;)14:28
dhellmannhaypo: excellent!14:29
haypodims, oh ok. i just pinged you because you voted -114:29
dimsdhellmann: i know it causes traffic but i like the mailing list making people aware of new cores :)14:29
dhellmanndims: true14:30
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/oslo.config: cfg: support interpolation of config option from other groups  https://review.openstack.org/18018214:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove run_cross_tests.sh  https://review.openstack.org/17947614:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware: Advertise support for Python3.4 / Remove support for Python 3.3  https://review.openstack.org/18153414:38
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18122314:46
flaper87dims: are these requirements' patches going to help with this? http://logs.openstack.org/16/181816/1/check/gate-glance-python27/96f9755/testr_results.html.gz15:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tooz: Remove support for redis < 2.6.0  https://review.openstack.org/18115515:03
flaper87oslo.middleware 1.0 requires oslo.config >=1.9.0 https://github.com/openstack/oslo.middleware/blob/1.0.0/requirements.txt#L715:04
flaper87and we have this in stable/kilo for global-requirements: oslo.middleware>=1.0.0,<1.1.0 and oslo.config>=1.9.3,<1.10.0  # Apache-2.015:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Remove unused stuffs from publisher  https://review.openstack.org/17913015:05
dimsflaper87: haven't looked at that one yet15:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused code  https://review.openstack.org/17915215:06
flaper87dims: probably the easiest fix is to do a oslo.middleware 1.0.1 release with the fixed requirements15:08
flaper87Fixed requirements being a requirements with a cap for oslo.config15:09
* dims dropping off. back in a bit. please do raise this on the meeting shortly. i'll be back in a couple of hours15:11
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dhellmanndims, flaper87 : we're holding off on changing anything related to requirements in the stable branches until we've had a chance to discuss the issues at the summit15:13
flaper87dhellmann: mmhh, makes sense. I think I missed that part of the convo. Thanks.15:14
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flaper87No stable release will happen anytime soon so, I guess we can fix this post-summit15:14
dhellmannflaper87: right, it was an irc discussion among some of us right at the end of the release, so it wasn't written down anywhere15:17
flaper87dhellmann: ah ok, np. I just let other folks in glance know about this15:18
flaper87It'd be good to send an email, I guess15:18
flaper87dhellmann: do you think you can send one? You've more context than me about the discussion15:18
flaper87or I can ping someone else if you're busy15:18
dhellmannflaper87: are you blocked on this somehow?15:19
flaper87dhellmann: glance stable is, yes.15:19
flaper87but I don't think it's urgent15:19
flaper87no stable releases will happen soon15:19
flaper87I don't think waiting will hurt us15:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log: Remove is_compatible from versionutils  https://review.openstack.org/17047115:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log: Add versionutils options to list_opts  https://review.openstack.org/16776915:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log: Add versionutils to API documentation  https://review.openstack.org/16776815:20
flaper87well, onless someone is doing CD on stable/kilo15:20
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dhellmannflaper87: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/062953.html15:22
flaper87dhellmann: thank you :)15:22
dhellmannI guess we did send a note, but it may not have had a subject obvious to you15:22
dhellmann(or me, until I found it :-)15:22
flaper87dhellmann: no problem :D15:23
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18190115:51
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/tooz: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18124915:52
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.concurrency: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18195916:02
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18196116:07
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.db: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18196716:22
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.i18n: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18197116:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18190216:33
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18197416:42
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18197516:46
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18197816:52
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18197816:52
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18198016:54
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18198417:00
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18198717:03
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.db: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18196717:04
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.i18n: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18197117:05
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18197417:06
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18198017:06
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: We have discovered post-upgrade issues with Gerrit affecting nova (and potentially other projects). Some changes will not appear and some actions, such as queries, may return an error. We are continuing to investigate.17:39
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Build-out + test a redis backed jobboard  https://review.openstack.org/17695118:21
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openstackgerritRyan Brown proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Drop simplejson which was needed for Python 2.6  https://review.openstack.org/18201018:33
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow for sharing the cachedproperty lock  https://review.openstack.org/18201919:03
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Expose in memory backend split staticmethod  https://review.openstack.org/18158519:32
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Use lua locks instead of pipeline locks  https://review.openstack.org/18203619:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18190119:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tooz: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18124919:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.concurrency: Advertise support for Python3.4 / Remove support for 3.3  https://review.openstack.org/18153920:07
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/oslo-specs: config: Alternate File Formats  https://review.openstack.org/18206220:11
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dhellmannbnemec: we should encourage ttx and sdague to attend your session on optional requirements: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-oslo-optional-dependencies20:14
sdaguedhellmann: that appears to be during a session I'm running in the nova track20:15
bnemec:-(20:16
dhellmannbnemec: perhaps you and dims can swap it for another?20:16
sdaguebnemec: but I'll say with my devstack hat on subsystem:impl-requirements.txt would be super appreciated20:17
sdaguelike db:mysql-requirements.txt20:17
sdagueor virt:vmware-requirements.txt20:17
sdaguebecause, right now, we're basically scattering that stuff everywhere throughout devstack20:17
dhellmannbnemec: lifeless is also likely to be interested in that session20:18
sdagueunder random if blocks20:18
bnemecdhellmann: Yeah, I'm open most of the time except Thursday afternoon when all of the TripleO sessions are.20:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslosphinx: Remove run_cross_tests.sh  https://review.openstack.org/17947920:18
bnemecsdague: I suspect devstack is not the only place that's happening.20:18
sdaguealso, in general, I'm so over scheduled, trying to adjust to my schedule is going to be fruitless20:19
dhellmannsdague: not surprising20:19
sdaguebut I can say now "yes please"20:19
bnemecdhellmann: Yeah, clarkb had also left thoughts on one of the specs.20:19
bnemecBut is not in this channel. :-/20:19
dhellmannsdague: the thing we keep getting blocked on is the idea that environment markers may be working soon20:19
dhellmannand so we would not need separate files any more20:19
sdagueso, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush20:20
dhellmannno argument there20:20
sdagueI feel like there is a solution that could be implemented in a month right now in front of us20:20
dhellmannwfm, I'm just relaying state20:20
sdagueand it could be changed later if there was a better way, but waiting for "may be working soon" is something I really don't think we should do, we've had a lot of things that are in a 2+ year holding pattern because of that20:21
bnemecYeah, we got some pushback about doing anything that makes us more of a unique snowflake in the Python world.20:21
sdagueI'm going to walk away from that one before I have an outburst :)20:22
lifelessdhellmann: bnemec: dep management? I have some interest yes20:22
lifelessdhellmann: sdague: environment markers are working20:22
bnemecHonestly I don't care how it happens, I just want it to happen, and so do a lot of other people if the frequent discussions are any indication.20:22
lifelessdhellmann: sdague: we need a little polish to make update.py have a sane way to work on them20:22
lifelesssdague: whats the one month solution you have in mind?20:23
sdaguelifeless: ok, then please give bnemec some sketch of what that is. Because I 100% don't have any idea what enviroment markers means, but I know what a feature file means20:23
dimsmillion dollar question :)20:23
dhellmannlifeless: bnemec has a session in the oslo track to talk about how to handle optional requirements. We would like your input, if you're available Wed 15:30 - 16:1020:23
lifelessdhellmann: let me check when my ops session is20:24
sdaguelifeless:20:24
sdague<sdague> bnemec: but I'll say with my devstack hat on subsystem:impl-requirements.txt would be super appreciated20:24
sdague<sdague> like db:mysql-requirements.txt20:24
sdague<sdague> or virt:vmware-requirements.txt20:24
lifelesssdague: these are markers - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0426/#environment-markers20:24
dhellmannsdague: you put the if statement inside the requirements.txt file, instead of in devstack20:24
lifelesssdague: so, that sounds like extras - conditional requirements.20:24
lifelessthey work *right now* if they are in setup.py.20:25
dhellmanndevstack just has to set the flags or whatever the environment markers look at20:25
lifelesstchaypo is working up a patch for pbr to support them in setup.cfg.20:25
sdagueok, so, someone else provides a solution, cool. Like I said, I can see how you'd implement subsystem:impl approach and it would be clear to everyone what they needed to do20:25
lifelessI'm ringleader for http://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/event/4da45ec1390dadcfc1d8a73decbf3f19#.VVEQRd_va0020:25
lifelessso I can do 1530 I think20:25
dimslifeless: nice20:26
bnemec+120:26
bnemecThe more interested parties we can get in one room, the better.20:26
bnemecI hope ;-)20:26
lifelessFor clarity, for hallway discussions - we've been in a holding pattern forever because few folk have actually taken the work to the root cause layer and fixed it there20:27
sdaguealso, we need a way for db:mysql-requirements.txt to be synced across integrated release projects, because they need to be the same across released components20:27
sdagueso if there is a setup.cfg solution there, please call out the sync solution as well20:28
lifelessI don't know how we systematically address that, but at least for the packaging story the fix is that I got angry and frustrated and am doing something about it20:28
lifelesssdague: yes, update.py needs to evolve20:28
lifelesssdague: the current working prototype is setup.py based and thats way too fragile for update.py.20:28
sdagueok20:28
lifelesssdague: so the work items at the moment are all about getting something into a declarative format such that update.py can be sanely updated.20:28
lifelesssdague: once thats in place, we update update.py.20:29
dhellmannsdague: what do you think about just having oslo.db specify the mysql requirements, and having the other projects just depend on oslo.db?20:29
sdagueok, so I guess that's where I get confused, because the .txt files are that. Is there a reason to create *another* declarative format?20:29
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sdaguedhellmann: how does that handle deciding not to install postgresql dependencies?20:30
sdagueit's possible that it does to go hide it all behind there, I just don't know20:30
sdaguemy brain can think about the optional bits as top level20:31
dhellmannsdague: we have to combine the 2 concepts. If nova says "I use oslo.db and whatever drivers it says to install" and oslo.db says "when mysql is turned on install foo and when postgresql is turned on install bar" then nova no longer has to care about the db driver libraries20:31
dhellmannit also means we only have one place we have to update the version of those libraries, in the oslo.db requirements list20:31
sdagueok... how do I pip install oslo.db and tell it that20:32
sdaguethat's the part I don't understand20:32
lifelesssdague: yes, which I addressed in my mail a couple weeks back about this to -dev20:32
sdagueextend pip ?20:32
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dhellmannsdague: I don't know the actual mechanism for that, it's part of that pep though20:32
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lifelessdhellmann: we can delegate by chaining extras20:32
lifelessdhellmann: nova[mysql] -> oslo.db[mysql]20:32
lifelessdhellmann: oslo.db[mysql] -> concrete things20:33
dhellmannlifeless: yeah, I don't want nova to know about mysql at all, though, is that possible?20:33
sdagueok, so I'm being told it's all solved. I'll just step away and assume you folks all have a solid solution, and will be happy in tokyo20:33
lifelessdhellmann: pip install nova oslo.db[mysql]20:33
dhellmannlifeless: right, that20:33
lifelessleaky abstraction20:33
dhellmanndoes that actually work today?20:33
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dhellmannI'm not sure why that's a leaky abstraction, nova doesn't actually use mysql directly20:33
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lifelessin the sense that you have to know that nova uses olso.db20:34
sdaguedhellmann: this is going to cover test requirements as a namespace as well?20:34
lifelessbut - it works20:34
lifelessand I dont' have a preference20:34
lifelessI'm going to make sure the plumbing works20:34
dhellmannsdague: I hadn't thought about that, but I suppose it could20:34
dhellmannlifeless: ok, that's fine, I'm still figuring this stuff out so I appreciate you thinking through it with me20:34
lifelessso test_requires are a special snowflake in some ways20:35
lifelessbut I have a small patch queued up (or if we get some volunteers I can delegate it) to enable that via pip too20:35
lifelessits all part of the  cluster of work20:35
dhellmannk20:35
lifelesswhich I think I now have a sufficiently good handle on that its time to write it up as prose to share20:35
lifelessI'll do a blog post I think20:35
dhellmann++20:35
lifelesssdague: the foo.txt files we use are a confused construct20:36
lifelesssdague: the intent in pip of '-r xxxx' is for deployers, not authors, to use.20:36
sdaguelifeless: well, that's fine, but they are also remarkably understandable20:36
dhellmannand much easier to parse than the setup.cfg20:36
lifelesssdague: yes, and machine processable20:36
bnemecpip shouldn't have supported nested -r then. :-)20:37
sdagueI'm always skeptical by "lets stop doing this simple thing, and do this complicated thing that's not finished"20:37
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lifelessbnemec: thats still for deployers20:40
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lifelesssdague: what we're doing isn't as simple as it looks20:41
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lifelesssdague: we're reflecting a superset of setuptools capabilities into a more limited system20:41
lifelesssdague: we're forcing stuff on thats deprecated and soon to be removed upstream20:42
lifelesssdague: we're breaking the metadata for wheels such that universal wheels don't work for most of our packages20:42
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lifelesssdague: in CI we see such a simple subset of use cases its hard to appreciate the ecosystem context20:51
lifelesssdague: we never implemented the full set of setuptools semantics (extras) in pbr, which is biting us now20:52
lifelesssdague: and we've had many attempts at solving the gate related issues without actually solving the plumbing because it was too hard or something: all those 'simple' solutions failed20:53
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18197521:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused consumer interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/17915321:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix consumers declaration  https://review.openstack.org/17927121:10
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Drop use of 'oslo' namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18209021:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix exception path in queue redeclaration  https://review.openstack.org/17927521:12
dhellmanndims, gordc : the namespace package work is blocked until we have a new release of oslo.middleware with https://review.openstack.org/18209021:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config: cfg: support interpolation of config option from other groups  https://review.openstack.org/18018221:13
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18197421:14
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.log: Allow integer logging levels  https://review.openstack.org/18209621:29
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Finish removing invocations of pip.  https://review.openstack.org/18178521:31
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.log: Allow integer logging levels  https://review.openstack.org/18209621:32
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Chain a few more exception raises that were previously missed  https://review.openstack.org/18159121:36
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Remove oslo namespace package  https://review.openstack.org/18196121:48
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Expose action engine no reraising states constants  https://review.openstack.org/18210322:06
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mordredhrm. for some reason I wasn't in here ...23:28
rrepakalifeless: I am back in this oslo chanel23:28
lifelessrrepaka: ok, so git describe shows you 1.4.0 ?23:29
rrepakalifeless: git describe returned 1.4.023:29
rrepakalifeless: Yes23:29
lifelessrrepaka: is there a version line in setup.cfg ?23:29
rrepakalifeless: no23:30
lifelessrrepaka: might you have additional tags?23:30
lifelessso yeah - both 1.4.0 and 1.4.0.0a5 reference the same commit23:31
rrepakalifeless: I checked out with 1.4.0 tag, but git bug has many tags23:31
rrepakalifeless: there is no tag 1.4.0.0a5, i checked by running git tag23:31
lifelessrrepaka: there is for me23:32
lifelessgit tag | grep 1.4.023:32
lifeless$ git tag  | grep 1.4.023:32
lifeless1.4.023:32
lifeless1.4.0.0a123:32
lifeless1.4.0.0a223:32
lifeless1.4.0.0a323:32
lifeless1.4.0.0a423:32
lifeless1.4.0.0a523:32
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rrepakalifeless:Let me double check23:32
rrepakalifeless: Yes the tag 1.4.0.0a5 is there in community23:33
lifelesscan you check the dates on those two tags23:34
rrepakalifeless: Yes both 1.4.0 and 1.4.0.0a5 are pointing at same SHA 059579a23:34
lifelessgit show 1.4.0 and git show 1.4.0.0a5 should let you verify23:34
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lifelessI'm just putting together a reproducer test23:35
harlowjarrepaka hi!23:36
harlowjathx for getting on :)23:36
harlowjalifeless rrepaka is a co-worker so be nice, ha23:36
harlowjahahaha23:36
harlowja:)23:36
rrepakaharlowja: Sure josh23:36
harlowja:)23:36
lifelessharlowja: I'll treat them waaay better than I treat you23:36
harlowjahahaha23:36
rrepakalifeless: I am doing my first community chat23:36
harlowja:-/23:36
harlowjayaaaaaa23:37
harlowja+100023:37
rrepakalifeless: git show 1.4.0 and git show 1.4.0.0a5 is diffrent for both they are pointing at different  commit hashes23:38
lifelessrrepaka: could you pastebin the outputs?23:38
rrepakalifeless:sure23:39
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lifelessok23:39
lifelessI've written a test but I can't get it to fail23:39
lifelessrrepaka: what git version do you have?23:39
lifelessI have 1.9.123:39
rrepakalifeless:http://paste.openstack.org/show/220260/23:40
rrepakalifeless: git version 1.7.1223:40
lifelessrrepaka: what does git describe --exact-match output ?23:41
harlowjarrepaka thats probably from a default rhel 6.x install right?23:41
harlowja*the git version23:41
rrepakaharlowja: No that our latest git dist pkg we have23:41
harlowjak23:42
rrepakalifeless: git describe --exact-match ===> 1.4.023:42
lifelessok thats bizarre23:43
lifelessrrepaka: can you run23:43
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lifelesspython setup.py egg_info && grep Version oslo.config.egg-info/PKG-INFO ?23:44
rrepakalifeless: http://paste.openstack.org/show/220266/23:45
lifelessblink23:46
lifelessok, try this23:46
lifelessgit clean -fdx23:46
rrepakalifeless: lol23:46
lifelessthen repeat the python setup.py egg_info && grep Version oslo.config.egg-info/PKG-INFO23:46
rrepakalifeless: Same : http://paste.openstack.org/show/220267/23:47
rrepakalifeless: Its the same result even after running the git clean -fdx23:50
rrepakalifeless: After 10 minutes i am going to logout need to catch the bus23:51
lifelessok23:51
lifelessI'm prepping a diagnostic branch23:52
lifelesssee whats going on23:52
rrepakalifeless: Sure thanks for debugging it23:52
lifelessrrepaka: can you trythis with 2.7?23:53
lifelessI have a nasty suspicion23:53
rrepakalifeless : Thats hard, we are stuck with python 2.623:53
lifelessdiagnostic only23:53
rrepakalifeless: I will try and get back to you23:54
lifelessI'm going to try 2.6 now, but since you're on RHEL your 2.6 is not my 2.623:54
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is going offline while we perform an emergency downgrade to version 2.8.23:54
lifelesshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/pbr/+bug/1453996/comments/5 is where i'm up to23:54
openstackLaunchpad bug 1453996 in PBR "multiple tags of the same commit have non-deterministic results" [High,Triaged]23:54
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lifelesswe already have a check you see23:55
lifelessmy test to check this works in 2.6 here23:56
rrepakalifeless: i dont have python 2.7 i will setup and update you23:56
lifelessrrepaka: don't worry for now23:57
lifelessrrepaka: I have a patch for you to try, if you have time23:57
rrepakalifeless: Heading to catch bus, if possible i will use wifi in bus23:57
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lifelessk23:57
rrepakalifeless: My friend tried with python 2.7 on Ubuntu and it worked properly there23:58
lifelesshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11086963/23:59
lifelessthat patch should get some visibility into whats going on23:59
lifelessor at worst eliminate another theory23:59
harlowjathat's weird, i wonder why 2.6 would affect this23:59
* harlowja meh, who knows23:59

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