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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.db: Remove run_cross_tests.sh https://review.openstack.org/179473 | 01:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Add RequestContextSerializer https://review.openstack.org/179772 | 01:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware: Use suds-jurko on Python 2 https://review.openstack.org/180087 | 01:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware: Add SPBM WSDL for vSphere 6.0 https://review.openstack.org/176671 | 01:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.log: move versionutils into place https://review.openstack.org/167767 | 02:00 |
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openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Finish removing invocations of pip. https://review.openstack.org/181785 | 02:19 |
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openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Finish removing invocations of pip. https://review.openstack.org/181785 | 02:40 |
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openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Finish removing invocations of pip. https://review.openstack.org/181785 | 04:53 |
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openstackgerrit | James Polley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Teach pbr to read extras from setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/181795 | 05:29 |
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openstackgerrit | James Polley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Teach pbr to read extras from setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/181795 | 05:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix consumers declaration https://review.openstack.org/179271 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused consumer interfaces https://review.openstack.org/179153 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: smarter declaration of the notif. queue https://review.openstack.org/179270 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused code https://review.openstack.org/179152 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Set timeout on the underlying socket https://review.openstack.org/179357 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Bump kombu and amqp requirements https://review.openstack.org/179356 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: TEST: enable heartbeat https://review.openstack.org/179359 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: smart timeout on missing exchange https://review.openstack.org/180905 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: redeclare consumers when ack/requeue fail https://review.openstack.org/180059 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove publisher classes https://review.openstack.org/180129 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix exception path in queue redeclaration https://review.openstack.org/179275 | 06:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Remove unused stuffs from publisher https://review.openstack.org/179130 | 06:51 |
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openstackgerrit | James Polley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Teach pbr to read extras from setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/181795 | 07:15 |
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openstackgerrit | James Polley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Teach pbr to read extras from setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/181795 | 07:25 |
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haypo | i see that moose logo was added to oslo incubator doc, but where can i read this doc online? | 09:51 |
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therve | jd__, The pypy failures seem to affect many project, and look infra related | 10:01 |
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jd__ | therve: ok :( | 10:01 |
therve | jd__, Some pip/setuptools weirdness | 10:01 |
jd__ | haypo: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo-incubator/ ? | 10:01 |
jd__ | therve: we should switch to Go | 10:01 |
therve | Dude, it's monday | 10:02 |
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jd__ | fair enough :D | 10:04 |
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haypo | jd__, i don't see moose there :-p | 10:07 |
jd__ | haypo: you sure it is linked from the doc? | 10:07 |
jd__ | haypo: what's the patch? | 10:08 |
haypo | jd__, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180627/ | 10:08 |
haypo | jd__, the change adds pictures but don't use them | 10:08 |
jd__ | haypo: so how can you expect to see them in the doc? | 10:08 |
* jd__ kicks haypo in the nuts | 10:09 | |
haypo | jd__, i tried to understand the change | 10:09 |
haypo | jd__, i don't know what are these "team mascot" (where they are supposed to be seen) | 10:09 |
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jd__ | haypo: no where for now, we're just going to use them to produce material for the summit AFAIK | 10:10 |
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haypo | ok | 10:11 |
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shardy | jd__: Hey, I just sent a mail to the list re the pypy test failures | 10:19 |
shardy | it appears heatclient is similarly impacted atm, I sent what (little) info I know to the ML | 10:20 |
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jd__ | thanks shardy | 10:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr: Advertise support for Python3.4 https://review.openstack.org/181525 | 10:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Remove support for Python 3.3 https://review.openstack.org/181529 | 11:00 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.config: Advertise support for Python3.4 / Remove support for 3.3 https://review.openstack.org/181538 | 11:04 |
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haypo | jd__, sileht : congrats for gnocchi 1.0 ;) | 12:54 |
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jd__ | thanks haypo | 13:03 |
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sileht | haypo, thx | 13:08 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.concurrency: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181900 | 14:03 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181901 | 14:03 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181223 | 14:03 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslotest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181228 | 14:03 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/taskflow: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181902 | 14:04 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/tooz: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181249 | 14:04 |
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jd__ | did we add harlowja to oslo-core already or not? | 14:16 |
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jd__ | did we add harlowja to oslo-core already or not? (repeating for dims :) | 14:16 |
dims | jd__: already done | 14:17 |
jd__ | ok cool | 14:17 |
jd__ | I can consider his +1 as +2 :) | 14:17 |
* dims will be online off and on. harlowja graciously agreed to host the weekly meeting today | 14:17 | |
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dims | jd__: yep | 14:18 |
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dhellmann | dims: I wonder if we should do something like this for managing the core team list? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181394 | 14:19 |
dims | dhellmann: anyone other than ceilometer using that pattern? | 14:22 |
haypo | dims, hi. for suds, i still see "import suds" in the nimble driver of cinder, so i understand that suds is still required in cinder. am i right? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180130/ | 14:24 |
dims | haypo: y. vipin should be able to help clean that up | 14:25 |
haypo | dims, what do you mean by "clean that up"? we should keep the suds dependency in cinder, no? | 14:25 |
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dims | haypo: i meant doing the same thing we did in nova. remove references and then drop the dependency | 14:26 |
dhellmann | dims: I think I saw someone else doing something similar, let me see if I can find it | 14:27 |
haypo | dims, in nova, only a very simple function was used. in cinder, the client class is instanciated. do you mean that the nimble driver should be modified to use oslo vmware instead of using suds? | 14:28 |
dims | dhellmann: we could use oslo-incubator repo as our home base? will still need me to edit the list on review.openstack.org, | 14:28 |
haypo | i don't know anything about suds or oslo.vmware :-p | 14:28 |
dhellmann | dims: yeah, gerrit would just be for voting -- there was a discussion of moving that off of the mailing list | 14:28 |
dims | haypo: y for now, let's just switch it from suds to suds-jurko | 14:28 |
dhellmann | haypo: I think we're talking about 2 different things | 14:28 |
haypo | dhellmann, hi. great news, oslo incubator is now 100% compatible with python 3 ;) i ported the remaining file (service.py) and dropped the whitelist from tox.ini ;) | 14:28 |
dhellmann | haypo: excellent! | 14:29 |
haypo | dims, oh ok. i just pinged you because you voted -1 | 14:29 |
dims | dhellmann: i know it causes traffic but i like the mailing list making people aware of new cores :) | 14:29 |
dhellmann | dims: true | 14:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/oslo.config: cfg: support interpolation of config option from other groups https://review.openstack.org/180182 | 14:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove run_cross_tests.sh https://review.openstack.org/179476 | 14:38 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.middleware: Advertise support for Python3.4 / Remove support for Python 3.3 https://review.openstack.org/181534 | 14:38 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181223 | 14:46 |
flaper87 | dims: are these requirements' patches going to help with this? http://logs.openstack.org/16/181816/1/check/gate-glance-python27/96f9755/testr_results.html.gz | 15:01 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz: Remove support for redis < 2.6.0 https://review.openstack.org/181155 | 15:03 |
flaper87 | oslo.middleware 1.0 requires oslo.config >=1.9.0 https://github.com/openstack/oslo.middleware/blob/1.0.0/requirements.txt#L7 | 15:04 |
flaper87 | and we have this in stable/kilo for global-requirements: oslo.middleware>=1.0.0,<1.1.0 and oslo.config>=1.9.3,<1.10.0 # Apache-2.0 | 15:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Remove unused stuffs from publisher https://review.openstack.org/179130 | 15:05 |
dims | flaper87: haven't looked at that one yet | 15:05 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused code https://review.openstack.org/179152 | 15:06 |
flaper87 | dims: probably the easiest fix is to do a oslo.middleware 1.0.1 release with the fixed requirements | 15:08 |
flaper87 | Fixed requirements being a requirements with a cap for oslo.config | 15:09 |
* dims dropping off. back in a bit. please do raise this on the meeting shortly. i'll be back in a couple of hours | 15:11 | |
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dhellmann | dims, flaper87 : we're holding off on changing anything related to requirements in the stable branches until we've had a chance to discuss the issues at the summit | 15:13 |
flaper87 | dhellmann: mmhh, makes sense. I think I missed that part of the convo. Thanks. | 15:14 |
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flaper87 | No stable release will happen anytime soon so, I guess we can fix this post-summit | 15:14 |
dhellmann | flaper87: right, it was an irc discussion among some of us right at the end of the release, so it wasn't written down anywhere | 15:17 |
flaper87 | dhellmann: ah ok, np. I just let other folks in glance know about this | 15:18 |
flaper87 | It'd be good to send an email, I guess | 15:18 |
flaper87 | dhellmann: do you think you can send one? You've more context than me about the discussion | 15:18 |
flaper87 | or I can ping someone else if you're busy | 15:18 |
dhellmann | flaper87: are you blocked on this somehow? | 15:19 |
flaper87 | dhellmann: glance stable is, yes. | 15:19 |
flaper87 | but I don't think it's urgent | 15:19 |
flaper87 | no stable releases will happen soon | 15:19 |
flaper87 | I don't think waiting will hurt us | 15:20 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log: Remove is_compatible from versionutils https://review.openstack.org/170471 | 15:20 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log: Add versionutils options to list_opts https://review.openstack.org/167769 | 15:20 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log: Add versionutils to API documentation https://review.openstack.org/167768 | 15:20 |
flaper87 | well, onless someone is doing CD on stable/kilo | 15:20 |
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dhellmann | flaper87: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/062953.html | 15:22 |
flaper87 | dhellmann: thank you :) | 15:22 |
dhellmann | I guess we did send a note, but it may not have had a subject obvious to you | 15:22 |
dhellmann | (or me, until I found it :-) | 15:22 |
flaper87 | dhellmann: no problem :D | 15:23 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181901 | 15:51 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/tooz: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181249 | 15:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.concurrency: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181959 | 16:02 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181961 | 16:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.i18n: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181971 | 16:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181978 | 16:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181980 | 16:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181984 | 17:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.vmware: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181987 | 17:03 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.db: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181967 | 17:04 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.i18n: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181971 | 17:05 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181974 | 17:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Build-out + test a redis backed jobboard https://review.openstack.org/176951 | 18:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Brown proposed openstack/oslo.serialization: Drop simplejson which was needed for Python 2.6 https://review.openstack.org/182010 | 18:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow for sharing the cachedproperty lock https://review.openstack.org/182019 | 19:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Expose in memory backend split staticmethod https://review.openstack.org/181585 | 19:32 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Use lua locks instead of pipeline locks https://review.openstack.org/182036 | 19:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181901 | 19:47 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/181249 | 19:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.concurrency: Advertise support for Python3.4 / Remove support for 3.3 https://review.openstack.org/181539 | 20:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack/oslo-specs: config: Alternate File Formats https://review.openstack.org/182062 | 20:11 |
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dhellmann | bnemec: we should encourage ttx and sdague to attend your session on optional requirements: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-oslo-optional-dependencies | 20:14 |
sdague | dhellmann: that appears to be during a session I'm running in the nova track | 20:15 |
bnemec | :-( | 20:16 |
dhellmann | bnemec: perhaps you and dims can swap it for another? | 20:16 |
sdague | bnemec: but I'll say with my devstack hat on subsystem:impl-requirements.txt would be super appreciated | 20:17 |
sdague | like db:mysql-requirements.txt | 20:17 |
sdague | or virt:vmware-requirements.txt | 20:17 |
sdague | because, right now, we're basically scattering that stuff everywhere throughout devstack | 20:17 |
dhellmann | bnemec: lifeless is also likely to be interested in that session | 20:18 |
sdague | under random if blocks | 20:18 |
bnemec | dhellmann: Yeah, I'm open most of the time except Thursday afternoon when all of the TripleO sessions are. | 20:18 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslosphinx: Remove run_cross_tests.sh https://review.openstack.org/179479 | 20:18 |
bnemec | sdague: I suspect devstack is not the only place that's happening. | 20:18 |
sdague | also, in general, I'm so over scheduled, trying to adjust to my schedule is going to be fruitless | 20:19 |
dhellmann | sdague: not surprising | 20:19 |
sdague | but I can say now "yes please" | 20:19 |
bnemec | dhellmann: Yeah, clarkb had also left thoughts on one of the specs. | 20:19 |
bnemec | But is not in this channel. :-/ | 20:19 |
dhellmann | sdague: the thing we keep getting blocked on is the idea that environment markers may be working soon | 20:19 |
dhellmann | and so we would not need separate files any more | 20:19 |
sdague | so, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush | 20:20 |
dhellmann | no argument there | 20:20 |
sdague | I feel like there is a solution that could be implemented in a month right now in front of us | 20:20 |
dhellmann | wfm, I'm just relaying state | 20:20 |
sdague | and it could be changed later if there was a better way, but waiting for "may be working soon" is something I really don't think we should do, we've had a lot of things that are in a 2+ year holding pattern because of that | 20:21 |
bnemec | Yeah, we got some pushback about doing anything that makes us more of a unique snowflake in the Python world. | 20:21 |
sdague | I'm going to walk away from that one before I have an outburst :) | 20:22 |
lifeless | dhellmann: bnemec: dep management? I have some interest yes | 20:22 |
lifeless | dhellmann: sdague: environment markers are working | 20:22 |
bnemec | Honestly I don't care how it happens, I just want it to happen, and so do a lot of other people if the frequent discussions are any indication. | 20:22 |
lifeless | dhellmann: sdague: we need a little polish to make update.py have a sane way to work on them | 20:22 |
lifeless | sdague: whats the one month solution you have in mind? | 20:23 |
sdague | lifeless: ok, then please give bnemec some sketch of what that is. Because I 100% don't have any idea what enviroment markers means, but I know what a feature file means | 20:23 |
dims | million dollar question :) | 20:23 |
dhellmann | lifeless: bnemec has a session in the oslo track to talk about how to handle optional requirements. We would like your input, if you're available Wed 15:30 - 16:10 | 20:23 |
lifeless | dhellmann: let me check when my ops session is | 20:24 |
sdague | lifeless: | 20:24 |
sdague | <sdague> bnemec: but I'll say with my devstack hat on subsystem:impl-requirements.txt would be super appreciated | 20:24 |
sdague | <sdague> like db:mysql-requirements.txt | 20:24 |
sdague | <sdague> or virt:vmware-requirements.txt | 20:24 |
lifeless | sdague: these are markers - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0426/#environment-markers | 20:24 |
dhellmann | sdague: you put the if statement inside the requirements.txt file, instead of in devstack | 20:24 |
lifeless | sdague: so, that sounds like extras - conditional requirements. | 20:24 |
lifeless | they work *right now* if they are in setup.py. | 20:25 |
dhellmann | devstack just has to set the flags or whatever the environment markers look at | 20:25 |
lifeless | tchaypo is working up a patch for pbr to support them in setup.cfg. | 20:25 |
sdague | ok, so, someone else provides a solution, cool. Like I said, I can see how you'd implement subsystem:impl approach and it would be clear to everyone what they needed to do | 20:25 |
lifeless | I'm ringleader for http://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/event/4da45ec1390dadcfc1d8a73decbf3f19#.VVEQRd_va00 | 20:25 |
lifeless | so I can do 1530 I think | 20:25 |
dims | lifeless: nice | 20:26 |
bnemec | +1 | 20:26 |
bnemec | The more interested parties we can get in one room, the better. | 20:26 |
bnemec | I hope ;-) | 20:26 |
lifeless | For clarity, for hallway discussions - we've been in a holding pattern forever because few folk have actually taken the work to the root cause layer and fixed it there | 20:27 |
sdague | also, we need a way for db:mysql-requirements.txt to be synced across integrated release projects, because they need to be the same across released components | 20:27 |
sdague | so if there is a setup.cfg solution there, please call out the sync solution as well | 20:28 |
lifeless | I don't know how we systematically address that, but at least for the packaging story the fix is that I got angry and frustrated and am doing something about it | 20:28 |
lifeless | sdague: yes, update.py needs to evolve | 20:28 |
lifeless | sdague: the current working prototype is setup.py based and thats way too fragile for update.py. | 20:28 |
sdague | ok | 20:28 |
lifeless | sdague: so the work items at the moment are all about getting something into a declarative format such that update.py can be sanely updated. | 20:28 |
lifeless | sdague: once thats in place, we update update.py. | 20:29 |
dhellmann | sdague: what do you think about just having oslo.db specify the mysql requirements, and having the other projects just depend on oslo.db? | 20:29 |
sdague | ok, so I guess that's where I get confused, because the .txt files are that. Is there a reason to create *another* declarative format? | 20:29 |
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sdague | dhellmann: how does that handle deciding not to install postgresql dependencies? | 20:30 |
sdague | it's possible that it does to go hide it all behind there, I just don't know | 20:30 |
sdague | my brain can think about the optional bits as top level | 20:31 |
dhellmann | sdague: we have to combine the 2 concepts. If nova says "I use oslo.db and whatever drivers it says to install" and oslo.db says "when mysql is turned on install foo and when postgresql is turned on install bar" then nova no longer has to care about the db driver libraries | 20:31 |
dhellmann | it also means we only have one place we have to update the version of those libraries, in the oslo.db requirements list | 20:31 |
sdague | ok... how do I pip install oslo.db and tell it that | 20:32 |
sdague | that's the part I don't understand | 20:32 |
lifeless | sdague: yes, which I addressed in my mail a couple weeks back about this to -dev | 20:32 |
sdague | extend pip ? | 20:32 |
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dhellmann | sdague: I don't know the actual mechanism for that, it's part of that pep though | 20:32 |
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lifeless | dhellmann: we can delegate by chaining extras | 20:32 |
lifeless | dhellmann: nova[mysql] -> oslo.db[mysql] | 20:32 |
lifeless | dhellmann: oslo.db[mysql] -> concrete things | 20:33 |
dhellmann | lifeless: yeah, I don't want nova to know about mysql at all, though, is that possible? | 20:33 |
sdague | ok, so I'm being told it's all solved. I'll just step away and assume you folks all have a solid solution, and will be happy in tokyo | 20:33 |
lifeless | dhellmann: pip install nova oslo.db[mysql] | 20:33 |
dhellmann | lifeless: right, that | 20:33 |
lifeless | leaky abstraction | 20:33 |
dhellmann | does that actually work today? | 20:33 |
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dhellmann | I'm not sure why that's a leaky abstraction, nova doesn't actually use mysql directly | 20:33 |
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lifeless | in the sense that you have to know that nova uses olso.db | 20:34 |
sdague | dhellmann: this is going to cover test requirements as a namespace as well? | 20:34 |
lifeless | but - it works | 20:34 |
lifeless | and I dont' have a preference | 20:34 |
lifeless | I'm going to make sure the plumbing works | 20:34 |
dhellmann | sdague: I hadn't thought about that, but I suppose it could | 20:34 |
dhellmann | lifeless: ok, that's fine, I'm still figuring this stuff out so I appreciate you thinking through it with me | 20:34 |
lifeless | so test_requires are a special snowflake in some ways | 20:35 |
lifeless | but I have a small patch queued up (or if we get some volunteers I can delegate it) to enable that via pip too | 20:35 |
lifeless | its all part of the cluster of work | 20:35 |
dhellmann | k | 20:35 |
lifeless | which I think I now have a sufficiently good handle on that its time to write it up as prose to share | 20:35 |
lifeless | I'll do a blog post I think | 20:35 |
dhellmann | ++ | 20:35 |
lifeless | sdague: the foo.txt files we use are a confused construct | 20:36 |
lifeless | sdague: the intent in pip of '-r xxxx' is for deployers, not authors, to use. | 20:36 |
sdague | lifeless: well, that's fine, but they are also remarkably understandable | 20:36 |
dhellmann | and much easier to parse than the setup.cfg | 20:36 |
lifeless | sdague: yes, and machine processable | 20:36 |
bnemec | pip shouldn't have supported nested -r then. :-) | 20:37 |
sdague | I'm always skeptical by "lets stop doing this simple thing, and do this complicated thing that's not finished" | 20:37 |
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lifeless | bnemec: thats still for deployers | 20:40 |
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lifeless | sdague: what we're doing isn't as simple as it looks | 20:41 |
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lifeless | sdague: we're reflecting a superset of setuptools capabilities into a more limited system | 20:41 |
lifeless | sdague: we're forcing stuff on thats deprecated and soon to be removed upstream | 20:42 |
lifeless | sdague: we're breaking the metadata for wheels such that universal wheels don't work for most of our packages | 20:42 |
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lifeless | sdague: in CI we see such a simple subset of use cases its hard to appreciate the ecosystem context | 20:51 |
lifeless | sdague: we never implemented the full set of setuptools semantics (extras) in pbr, which is biting us now | 20:52 |
lifeless | sdague: and we've had many attempts at solving the gate related issues without actually solving the plumbing because it was too hard or something: all those 'simple' solutions failed | 20:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181975 | 21:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: remove unused consumer interfaces https://review.openstack.org/179153 | 21:09 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix consumers declaration https://review.openstack.org/179271 | 21:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Drop use of 'oslo' namespace package https://review.openstack.org/182090 | 21:11 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: fix exception path in queue redeclaration https://review.openstack.org/179275 | 21:12 |
dhellmann | dims, gordc : the namespace package work is blocked until we have a new release of oslo.middleware with https://review.openstack.org/182090 | 21:12 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.config: cfg: support interpolation of config option from other groups https://review.openstack.org/180182 | 21:13 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/181974 | 21:14 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.log: Allow integer logging levels https://review.openstack.org/182096 | 21:29 |
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openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Finish removing invocations of pip. https://review.openstack.org/181785 | 21:31 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.log: Allow integer logging levels https://review.openstack.org/182096 | 21:32 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Chain a few more exception raises that were previously missed https://review.openstack.org/181591 | 21:36 |
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mordred | hrm. for some reason I wasn't in here ... | 23:28 |
rrepaka | lifeless: I am back in this oslo chanel | 23:28 |
lifeless | rrepaka: ok, so git describe shows you 1.4.0 ? | 23:29 |
rrepaka | lifeless: git describe returned 1.4.0 | 23:29 |
rrepaka | lifeless: Yes | 23:29 |
lifeless | rrepaka: is there a version line in setup.cfg ? | 23:29 |
rrepaka | lifeless: no | 23:30 |
lifeless | rrepaka: might you have additional tags? | 23:30 |
lifeless | so yeah - both 1.4.0 and 1.4.0.0a5 reference the same commit | 23:31 |
rrepaka | lifeless: I checked out with 1.4.0 tag, but git bug has many tags | 23:31 |
rrepaka | lifeless: there is no tag 1.4.0.0a5, i checked by running git tag | 23:31 |
lifeless | rrepaka: there is for me | 23:32 |
lifeless | git tag | grep 1.4.0 | 23:32 |
lifeless | $ git tag | grep 1.4.0 | 23:32 |
lifeless | 1.4.0 | 23:32 |
lifeless | 1.4.0.0a1 | 23:32 |
lifeless | 1.4.0.0a2 | 23:32 |
lifeless | 1.4.0.0a3 | 23:32 |
lifeless | 1.4.0.0a4 | 23:32 |
lifeless | 1.4.0.0a5 | 23:32 |
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rrepaka | lifeless:Let me double check | 23:32 |
rrepaka | lifeless: Yes the tag 1.4.0.0a5 is there in community | 23:33 |
lifeless | can you check the dates on those two tags | 23:34 |
rrepaka | lifeless: Yes both 1.4.0 and 1.4.0.0a5 are pointing at same SHA 059579a | 23:34 |
lifeless | git show 1.4.0 and git show 1.4.0.0a5 should let you verify | 23:34 |
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lifeless | I'm just putting together a reproducer test | 23:35 |
harlowja | rrepaka hi! | 23:36 |
harlowja | thx for getting on :) | 23:36 |
harlowja | lifeless rrepaka is a co-worker so be nice, ha | 23:36 |
harlowja | hahaha | 23:36 |
harlowja | :) | 23:36 |
rrepaka | harlowja: Sure josh | 23:36 |
harlowja | :) | 23:36 |
lifeless | harlowja: I'll treat them waaay better than I treat you | 23:36 |
harlowja | hahaha | 23:36 |
rrepaka | lifeless: I am doing my first community chat | 23:36 |
harlowja | :-/ | 23:36 |
harlowja | yaaaaaa | 23:37 |
harlowja | +1000 | 23:37 |
rrepaka | lifeless: git show 1.4.0 and git show 1.4.0.0a5 is diffrent for both they are pointing at different commit hashes | 23:38 |
lifeless | rrepaka: could you pastebin the outputs? | 23:38 |
rrepaka | lifeless:sure | 23:39 |
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lifeless | ok | 23:39 |
lifeless | I've written a test but I can't get it to fail | 23:39 |
lifeless | rrepaka: what git version do you have? | 23:39 |
lifeless | I have 1.9.1 | 23:39 |
rrepaka | lifeless:http://paste.openstack.org/show/220260/ | 23:40 |
rrepaka | lifeless: git version 1.7.12 | 23:40 |
lifeless | rrepaka: what does git describe --exact-match output ? | 23:41 |
harlowja | rrepaka thats probably from a default rhel 6.x install right? | 23:41 |
harlowja | *the git version | 23:41 |
rrepaka | harlowja: No that our latest git dist pkg we have | 23:41 |
harlowja | k | 23:42 |
rrepaka | lifeless: git describe --exact-match ===> 1.4.0 | 23:42 |
lifeless | ok thats bizarre | 23:43 |
lifeless | rrepaka: can you run | 23:43 |
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lifeless | python setup.py egg_info && grep Version oslo.config.egg-info/PKG-INFO ? | 23:44 |
rrepaka | lifeless: http://paste.openstack.org/show/220266/ | 23:45 |
lifeless | blink | 23:46 |
lifeless | ok, try this | 23:46 |
lifeless | git clean -fdx | 23:46 |
rrepaka | lifeless: lol | 23:46 |
lifeless | then repeat the python setup.py egg_info && grep Version oslo.config.egg-info/PKG-INFO | 23:46 |
rrepaka | lifeless: Same : http://paste.openstack.org/show/220267/ | 23:47 |
rrepaka | lifeless: Its the same result even after running the git clean -fdx | 23:50 |
rrepaka | lifeless: After 10 minutes i am going to logout need to catch the bus | 23:51 |
lifeless | ok | 23:51 |
lifeless | I'm prepping a diagnostic branch | 23:52 |
lifeless | see whats going on | 23:52 |
rrepaka | lifeless: Sure thanks for debugging it | 23:52 |
lifeless | rrepaka: can you trythis with 2.7? | 23:53 |
lifeless | I have a nasty suspicion | 23:53 |
rrepaka | lifeless : Thats hard, we are stuck with python 2.6 | 23:53 |
lifeless | diagnostic only | 23:53 |
rrepaka | lifeless: I will try and get back to you | 23:54 |
lifeless | I'm going to try 2.6 now, but since you're on RHEL your 2.6 is not my 2.6 | 23:54 |
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is going offline while we perform an emergency downgrade to version 2.8. | 23:54 | |
lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/pbr/+bug/1453996/comments/5 is where i'm up to | 23:54 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1453996 in PBR "multiple tags of the same commit have non-deterministic results" [High,Triaged] | 23:54 |
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lifeless | we already have a check you see | 23:55 |
lifeless | my test to check this works in 2.6 here | 23:56 |
rrepaka | lifeless: i dont have python 2.7 i will setup and update you | 23:56 |
lifeless | rrepaka: don't worry for now | 23:57 |
lifeless | rrepaka: I have a patch for you to try, if you have time | 23:57 |
rrepaka | lifeless: Heading to catch bus, if possible i will use wifi in bus | 23:57 |
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lifeless | k | 23:57 |
rrepaka | lifeless: My friend tried with python 2.7 on Ubuntu and it worked properly there | 23:58 |
lifeless | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11086963/ | 23:59 |
lifeless | that patch should get some visibility into whats going on | 23:59 |
lifeless | or at worst eliminate another theory | 23:59 |
harlowja | that's weird, i wonder why 2.6 would affect this | 23:59 |
* harlowja meh, who knows | 23:59 |
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