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| kodoku | Hi, today my network node have 100% CPU and /var full with neutron log.....http://paste.openstack.org/show/406349/ | 08:48 |
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| kodoku | with this error ===> ERROR oslo_messaging._drivers.impl_rabbit [-] Failed to consume message from queue: 'NoneType' object has no attribute '__getitem__' | 08:49 |
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| dhellmann | lifeless: talking about pre vs. post versioning with ttx, he raised a good point: If we switch to post-versioning then we'll have issues with stable and master branches generating the same version numbers for new commits for a short period, unless we re-tag master with a new version. What do you think about making pbr generate versions with "post" instead of "dev" using a flag that we set in the stable branch? | 14:35 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: hmm, the flag would be set on the master branch, no ? That's where you're missing data | 14:58 |
| ttx | not certain what those would look like, though | 14:58 |
| ttx | since you have nothing to start generating "post" versions from there | 14:58 |
| ttx | you would push a fake version-post=13.0.0.0a0 to serve as base until 13.0.0.0b1 is tagged ? | 15:00 |
| ttx | and then remove it ? | 15:00 |
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| tdurakov | harlowja, utc+3 | 15:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/taskflow: Base class for deciders https://review.openstack.org/207210 | 15:15 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: right now the default behavior is for pbr to generate x.y.z.devN versions, and I'm suggesting we keep that on master but use postN versions on the stable branch to differentiate. | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | ttx: that avoids the need for an extra tag, at the expense of a flag we have to set, but the flag won't trigger issues with pbr like having the version field does now | 15:49 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: hmm... sure.. although the plan for stable branches is to autogenerate .z versions for each commit as part of continuously releasing | 15:52 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068400.html | 15:53 |
| ttx | we still need to figure out how we'll do that | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | ttx: well, maybe that's what the flag should do instead of switching to the postN thing then | 15:54 |
| dhellmann | either way, we need a flag to change the behavior | 15:54 |
| ttx | agreed | 15:55 |
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| dansmith | ativelkov: I had to rev my patch for the unicode enum thing, if you can check it again | 16:36 |
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| mriedem1 | are there any oslo libraries that run commands as root? | 16:50 |
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| dhellmann | mriedem1: I can't imagine any other than rootwrap itself. What are you looking into? | 16:53 |
| mriedem1 | dhellmann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1479842 | 16:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479842 in os-brick "os-brick needs to provide it's own rootwrap filters file" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Walt Boring (walter-boring) | 16:53 |
| mriedem1 | discussing in the -cinder channel | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | mriedem1: I wonder if we can live with that until we get oslo.privsep done? | 16:54 |
| dhellmann | dims: ^^ | 16:54 |
| mriedem1 | never heard of privsep | 16:54 |
| dhellmann | it's a new approach to running things as root that should eliminate most of the issues we've had with rootwrap | 16:55 |
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| ihrachyshka | dims, who's the rootwrap guy? | 17:09 |
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| anilvenkata | Hi all | 17:10 |
| dims | ihrachyshka: ttx is the original rootwrap guy :) Yuriy has been carrying the torch lately and now Angus is pitching in with privep (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204073/) | 17:10 |
| dims | hi anilvenkata | 17:10 |
| ihrachyshka | dims, we need some dark details around daemon ;) | 17:10 |
| anilvenkata | I have an issue with a functional test in neutron | 17:10 |
| ihrachyshka | anilvenkata, let me describe | 17:11 |
| anilvenkata | ihrachyshka: sure thanks | 17:11 |
| anilvenkata | that helps me :) | 17:11 |
| ihrachyshka | dims, so neutron accesses rootwrap daemon thru client which is singleton (so all threads use the same socket). now, a func test fails with "RuntimeError: Second simultaneous read on fileno 6 detected. Unless you really know what you're doing, make sure that only one greenthread can read any particular socket. Consider using a pools.Pool. If you do know what you're doing and want to disable this error" | 17:11 |
| ihrachyshka | dims, I guess it indicates that multiple threads accessed the socket in parallel | 17:12 |
| ihrachyshka | and it's not working | 17:12 |
| ihrachyshka | the fact that test tries to start HA agent with two nodes supports the hypothesis | 17:12 |
| dims | started happening recently? | 17:12 |
| ihrachyshka | now, the question is: is it really the problem? how should we use it neutron? separate client per thread/per execute call? | 17:12 |
| anilvenkata | this is a new test case | 17:12 |
| ihrachyshka | dims, I think anilvenkata is adding the test | 17:12 |
| dims | so this is NOT happening anywhere in the CI and is a brand new thing | 17:13 |
| dims | got a review? | 17:13 |
| anilvenkata | dims: ihrachyshka https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200636/ | 17:14 |
| anilvenkata | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200636/4/neutron_vpnaas/tests/functional/common/test_scenario.py | 17:14 |
| harlowja | tdurakov ok, utc+3 then, btw, if u ever want to poke some of the other taskflow folks, there is another 'subchannel' @ #openstack-state-management | 17:14 |
| harlowja | that channel sometimes has people that aren't in this channel, and vice-versa | 17:14 |
| harlowja | although mostly its overlap nowadays | 17:15 |
| ihrachyshka | anilvenkata, which job can we check for logs? | 17:15 |
| anilvenkata | dims: ihrachyshka http://logs.openstack.org/36/200636/4/check/gate-neutron-vpnaas-dsvm-functional-sswan/1dcd044/console.html | 17:15 |
| anilvenkata | dims: ihrachyshka this log has "Second simultaneous read" socket errors | 17:17 |
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| dims | anilvenkata: ihrachyshka: give me a few, will ping back | 17:18 |
| anilvenkata | sure thanks | 17:18 |
| ihrachyshka | yeah, so logs show there are parallel strings of rootwrap calls | 17:18 |
| ihrachyshka | I guess both agents apply state on the system | 17:18 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, ^^ | 17:19 |
| anilvenkata | two l3 agents are present in test, and both doing cleanup after the test is run | 17:19 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, I think we may need to rethink how we interact with rootwrap daemon | 17:19 |
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| dims | ihrachyshka: don't you have a flag for switching daemon on and off? | 17:20 |
| ihrachyshka | dims, we have. but I don't think that's the fix. | 17:22 |
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| dims | ihrachyshka: i know, i am looking for data points | 17:22 |
| ihrachyshka | dims, it's generally legitimate for multiple threads to call to rootwrap | 17:22 |
| ihrachyshka | dims, yeah, we can try to disable it and check | 17:22 |
| ihrachyshka | anilvenkata, ^^ | 17:22 |
| anilvenkata | dims: ihrachyshka but cleanup is not in our control | 17:22 |
| ihrachyshka | but I insist there can be more to fix and this is just a good trigger for the underlying problem | 17:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/tooz: Accept blocking argument in lock's context manager https://review.openstack.org/203057 | 17:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/tooz: Raise exception on failed lock's CM acquire fail https://review.openstack.org/207406 | 17:23 |
| ihrachyshka | anilvenkata, dims probably means that you can run agents with rootwrap daemon disabled (root_helper_daemon=None) | 17:23 |
| dims | yes | 17:24 |
| anilvenkata | ihrachyshka: dims so instead of using daemon I have to command right? | 17:24 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: reading | 17:24 |
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| dims | for example in this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1229475 see how we fixed it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49210/ | 17:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1229475 in python-neutronclient "terminate_instance(): RuntimeError: Second simultaneous read on fileno 16 detected" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Davanum Srinivas (DIMS) (dims-v) | 17:25 |
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| ihrachyshka | anilvenkata, ? you just disable the daemon on the config object you pass into agents, then run them. they will use good old synchronous calls instead of daemon and the socket | 17:25 |
| dims | i have to drop off for a bit. i want to know if setting the daemon off helps or not. i'll look deeper into logs and test case in about 30 mins. dropping off now | 17:25 |
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| anilvenkata | i.e neutron-rootwrap instead of neutron-rootwrap-daemon | 17:26 |
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| anilvenkata | ihrachyshka: got it | 17:26 |
| anilvenkata | ihrachyshka: I will do in agent config like you said and try | 17:26 |
| ihrachyshka | anilvenkata, but please wherever you go with the test, make sure to report the bug against neutron core | 17:28 |
| anilvenkata | ihrachyshka: otherwiseguy actually I am using https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49210/ still I have this issue | 17:28 |
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| anilvenkata | ihrachyshka: thanks a lot Ihar and Srinivas for the help | 17:30 |
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| dims | back now | 18:27 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: huh? how would they generate the same versions? | 18:58 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: also no, post has a very specific meaning: fixing up bad metadata in a release, nothing more | 18:58 |
| lifeless | dhellmann: e.g. 'oops the docs failed to be included' | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: if we branch from version x.y.z and then have 1 commit after that in each branch, won't the versions of those 2 branches then be the same? | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: yeah, ttx pointed out that we want automatic patch versioning instead so I think that's what we would want the flag to do, if we need it | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: apparently the clashing versions is a thing we've seen for oslo, though I don't remember it being an actual issue (probably because no one deploys the libs from source) | 19:00 |
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| lifeless | dhellmann: well, the rules we have for release series are microversions only, no ? | 19:03 |
| lifeless | thats actually the fundamental tihing | 19:03 |
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| lifeless | and while pbr can recommend versions based on the semver rules, tags win over its heuristics (deliberately) - but only so far as they match genuine versions | 19:04 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: this is all in the context of moving all projects to use post versioning. One objection ttx raised was that at the point when we create the stable branch, we could end up with 2 commits from different branches for which the automatically generated version was the same, even if the commits themselves were entirely different. | 19:05 |
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| dhellmann | so it's the automatic versions we're worried about, tagging works fine | 19:06 |
| dhellmann | we also have the expressed desire to automatically create "good" versions for stable branches by incrementing the patch level instead of using devN style versions | 19:06 |
| dhellmann | so I started thinking that if we solve that, it also solves the new problem I just described | 19:07 |
| lifeless | ok, so automatically making patch level changes on every commit could be done a safe way and an unsafe | 19:08 |
| lifeless | it would be unsafe if every distributed branch did it | 19:08 |
| lifeless | it would be safe if only the gerrit owned branch does it | 19:08 |
| lifeless | there's also the derivative branch use cases to consider | 19:09 |
| lifeless | they are currently served poorly by pbr | 19:09 |
| dhellmann | "derivative branch"? | 19:09 |
| lifeless | e.g. ibm's branch or helions branch or ... | 19:09 |
| dhellmann | ah | 19:09 |
| lifeless | vs 'robertc branch of kilo' | 19:09 |
| dhellmann | assuming those branches actually diverge, would it make sense to enable the behavior using a flag in setup.cfg, which could then be patched out of the diverged branch? | 19:10 |
| lifeless | I think that would be unsafe because every new dev branch would produce official reference numbers | 19:11 |
| lifeless | and devs can't patch it out because that would be included in their submissions back to gerrit | 19:12 |
| lifeless | so I think if we flip the problem | 19:12 |
| lifeless | both master and kilo produce dev version numbers | 19:12 |
| lifeless | thats safe | 19:12 |
| lifeless | they aren't uploadable | 19:12 |
| lifeless | there is no risk | 19:13 |
| dhellmann | "aren't uploadable"? | 19:13 |
| lifeless | to pypi etc | 19:13 |
| dhellmann | ok | 19:13 |
| lifeless | I mean, they /are/ bu tthey aren't | 19:14 |
| lifeless | http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0440/#developmental-releases | 19:14 |
| lifeless | 'publishing developmental releases of pre-releases to general purpose public index servers is strongly discouraged' | 19:14 |
| dhellmann | I think we were more worried about CD situations where someone might have their own package | 19:14 |
| dhellmann | and package "repo" | 19:14 |
| lifeless | and our publishing machinery certainly won't publish dev tagged releases - it won't match the regex in project-config | 19:14 |
| lifeless | thats fair enough so - if they do that, and they publish two different branches into the same repo | 19:15 |
| lifeless | I think they get to keep both pieces | 19:15 |
| lifeless | like: they must have a local constraints/requirements file that separates out kilo vs master | 19:15 |
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| lifeless | or that configuration will just settle on master | 19:16 |
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| dhellmann | I guess that's ok, if we assume they're never going to upgrade from a dev version from a stable branch to a dev version on master | 19:16 |
| lifeless | further, masters versions are way ahead of kilos | 19:16 |
| dhellmann | now they are, but closer to the moment of creating the stable branch they wouldn't be | 19:17 |
| lifeless | oh right. | 19:17 |
| lifeless | equally though the code will be the same at that point too | 19:17 |
| lifeless | if we want to make them separate really quickly, we can tag master as an alpha0 straight away | 19:18 |
| dhellmann | one thing we did discuss was creating an artificial tag to bump the version on master, though that requires a commit to land first and at that point we're already in the state where things could have gone wrong | 19:18 |
| lifeless | nah, we can tag first | 19:18 |
| dhellmann | so we were trying to figure out a way to fix it with a commit in stable, hence the idea of putting something in setup.cfg to change pbr's behavior there | 19:18 |
| lifeless | identify the branch point | 19:18 |
| lifeless | tag the commit after it a0 | 19:18 |
| dhellmann | what if the branch point is head? | 19:19 |
| lifeless | add the branch from the branch point | 19:19 |
| lifeless | facile answer: don't do that | 19:19 |
| dhellmann | :-/ | 19:19 |
| lifeless | a more sensible answer will need to wait for me to write the welcome presentation and finish my afternon presentation | 19:19 |
| dhellmann | :-) go do conferency things | 19:19 |
| dhellmann | this is something I'll be thinking about leading up to the summit, so I may ping again in a couple of weeks when my travel schedule settles down | 19:20 |
| lifeless | ack | 19:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Fix docs for environment markers in extras https://review.openstack.org/207600 | 20:08 |
| bknudson | ^ I tried using the example from the docs and it didn't work for me. | 20:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/automaton: Allow providing a state-name translation dict https://review.openstack.org/197815 | 20:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/futurist: Allow providing a callback to certain executors to reject new work https://review.openstack.org/205262 | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/futurist: Delegate failure capturing to a object that is returned on run https://review.openstack.org/204328 | 20:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/futurist: Allow for providing custom 'on_failure' callbacks https://review.openstack.org/204802 | 20:56 |
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| zigo | WTF oslo.reports does? | 22:22 |
| zigo | Can someone come with a decent >= 3 lines long description for the Debian package? | 22:23 |
| zigo | Something like what's in oslo_reports/__init__.py would do... | 22:24 |
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| dims | zigo: it's not ready for packaging yet. there's a lot of things needs to be fixed | 22:50 |
| zigo | dims: Though nova already depends on it! | 22:51 |
| dims | yes | 22:51 |
| zigo | So, ready or not, I will upload it just before nova. | 22:51 |
| dims | ok | 22:51 |
| dims | zigo: if you want an inventory of things yet to be done for the new libraries, please look here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTR-pN2GD5cK_tHIMyKNL5vh4N8JtXTptcE1bLd2G3E/edit#gid=0 | 22:52 |
| zigo | dims: FYI, I have finished packaging most of the Liberty b2 libs, I'm now building server packages. | 22:52 |
| dims | ack | 22:52 |
| dims | "At least 3 lines in README.rst" | 22:52 |
| dims | your favourite topic is a line item in that spreadsheet | 22:52 |
| * dims back in a bit | 22:53 | |
| zigo | Ah, nice ! :) | 22:54 |
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