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| dhellmann | harlowja, jd__, bnemec : if you have a few minutes, could you take a look at this doc extension patch mtreinish and I are working on? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211300/5 | 13:53 |
| bnemec | sphinxconfiggen :-) | 13:54 |
| bnemec | Sounds like something the swedish chef would say | 13:54 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec: heh | 13:55 |
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| mtreinish | bnemec: nah, I just really suck at naming things | 14:03 |
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| bnemec | mtreinish: I wasn't complaining. :-) | 14:16 |
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| bnemec | mtreinish: dhellmann: One litttle issue I noticed, but otherwise I like it. | 14:17 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec: good eye; mtreinish : I'll fix that up | 14:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add sphinx extension to build sample config https://review.openstack.org/211300 | 14:19 |
| mtreinish | bnemec: ^^^ | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | or not :-) | 14:19 |
| mtreinish | dhellmann: I win :) | 14:19 |
| bnemec | :-) | 14:19 |
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| pballand | hi - we’re looking to leverage oslo.messaging in congress. Our current design relies on reliable delivery to multiple servers. This appears possible, but I can’t seem to find how a server can get a notification of when it is disconnected from the bus (and therefore may have missed messages.) Can anyone provide any insights? | 17:28 |
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| dhellmann | pballand: I'm not sure depending on reliable message delivery is going to be a good long-term strategy. If the client creates a persistent queue, messages will accumulate until it reconnects to the same queue. I don't know if our notification code does that by default, though. | 17:45 |
| pballand | dhellmann: thanks - I’m not looking for durable delivery - just knowing that I missed some messages is sufficient | 17:46 |
| dhellmann | pballand: sileht is our messaging expert, but he's in europe so you might want to send email to the -dev list so he sees the question tomorrow | 17:47 |
| pballand | simply knowing when I connect is probably sufficient, since I can achieve the rest via sequence numbers | 17:47 |
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| gordc | pballand: you won't miss messages. you just won't receive any when disconnected... oslo.messaging will by default retry connection when it loses it. | 17:48 |
| pballand | gordc: right - what I need to know is that I was disconnected at some point and may have missed messages | 17:49 |
| pballand | currently, the retry logic is buried deep with no notification exposed to the application code | 17:49 |
| gordc | i'm not sure tracking a sequence number works... it's asynchronous so you technically your messages could be queued in different orders. | 17:49 |
| harlowja | dhellmann sure, checking out sphinx stuff, although my sphinx knowlege mostly minimal :-p | 17:50 |
| dhellmann | right, pballand, you might be trying to use the message bus in a way other than how oslo.messaging is setting it up, so you might have to do some extra work for that pattern | 17:50 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: you're in luck, the patch was approved :-) | 17:50 |
| harlowja | oh even better | 17:50 |
| gordc | pballand: ah right. yeah, i don't think the disconnect gets surfaced in any way | 17:50 |
| harlowja | haha | 17:50 |
| harlowja | bb, my mac is acting really slow, restarting it | 17:50 |
| harlowja | restart all the things, ha | 17:51 |
| pballand | assuming unique publisher IDs, each publisher can have a monotonomically increasing sequence such that a server can detect holes - what it can’t detect is new publishers that appeared when it was disconnected | 17:51 |
| pballand | …. unless the server knows it was disconnected, in which case it can ask | 17:51 |
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| pballand | dhellmann: the wiki lists fanout examples where this sort of notification would be useful - not sure how reliability is achieved otherwise | 17:53 |
| pballand | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/Messaging#Invoke_Method_on_all_of_Multiple_Servers | 17:53 |
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| pballand | “quantum-server invokes the ‘network_delete’ method in fanout mode […] and all agent services handle it” - what about serverices that are down when the method was invoked? | 17:54 |
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| pballand | (the nova-compute example implies that it handles this case by “periodically” reposting the same messages) | 17:55 |
| dhellmann | pballand: I'm not sure | 17:55 |
| dhellmann | pballand: as I said, sileht is our expert on this stuff | 17:56 |
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| pballand | dhellmann: yes, I’ll send an email | 17:57 |
| pballand | thanks for the discussion - it helps a lot | 17:57 |
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| claudiub | dims: hi. Do you have a minute? | 18:12 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: dims is on holiday, can someone else help? | 18:16 |
| claudiub | dhellmann: ah, I didn't know, sorry. But you can. :) | 18:17 |
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| claudiub | dhellmann: so, as you know, I'm working on the oslo.windows spec. But I'm not exactly sure what am I waiting for / what should I be focusing on at the moment. I've got quite a few roll-call votes on the governance patch, including you, but not exactly sure what that means or how it helps. | 18:18 |
| harlowja | dhellmann do u mind +2(+a) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207589/ if u can :) | 18:18 |
| harlowja | if u dare! | 18:19 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:19 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: ttx is out for a few days, too, and he's the one who approves repository additions for governance (as the tc chair) | 18:19 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: was the oslo spec approved? | 18:19 |
| claudiub | dhellmann: not yet,waiting for people to review. Got a review from you, from dims, from harlowja, but no +2s. | 18:20 |
| harlowja | claudiub i'm fine with it, just want to get more feedback | 18:20 |
| harlowja | idk about the whole naming thing, that was raised yesterday | 18:20 |
| claudiub | harlowja: ty. :) | 18:20 |
| harlowja | microsoft won't sue right :-P | 18:21 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: ok, the first thing to do is get the spec approved. All of that other work is blocked waiting for the oslo team to agree to take on this new library | 18:21 |
| harlowja | sign here | 18:21 |
| harlowja | _________ | 18:21 |
| claudiub | harlowja: :)) | 18:21 |
| harlowja | claudiub u may also want to chop off 'WIP' from the title of that review | 18:21 |
| claudiub | harlowja: I signed on my monitor, but the _________ scrolled up, damn it. Going to sign again. | 18:21 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:21 |
| claudiub | harlowja: yeah, that's true. forgot about it. will do it asap. | 18:22 |
| harlowja | k, people may be avoiding it due to that | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: do you expect this library to contain more than hyperv-related code? | 18:22 |
| claudiub | dhellmann: k, cool. | 18:22 |
| claudiub | dhellmann: hyper-v / windows related code, yes, as there are new APIs to be tacked in the new Hyper-V which will be fresh out of the oven soon enough. | 18:23 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: and to be honest, based on my experience with the vmware lib and the fact that you don't need this to be an official lib to be useful, I'm tempted to suggest setting it up outside of oslo | 18:23 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: so if it's hyperv-only, then I would put hyperv in the name instead of "windows" | 18:23 |
| dhellmann | otherwise its like having an oslo.linux with kvm stuff in it | 18:24 |
| claudiub | dhellmann: oslo.hyperv was my first go-to name as well, but it's not only hyper-v related code, there is also some windows related code. | 18:24 |
| dhellmann | ok, in that case the name is probably fine | 18:24 |
| harlowja | claudiub u could make super-awesome name and register it on pypi | 18:25 |
| claudiub | dhellmann: hm, what is your experience with the oslo.vmware lib then? I'm curious as to why you said that. | 18:25 |
| dhellmann | most of the folks who work on that library work *only* on that, and most of the rest of the oslo team doesn't know much about vmware | 18:26 |
| harlowja | i'd go for https://pypi.python.org/pypi/silica | 18:26 |
| harlowja | windows being made of silica :-P | 18:26 |
| dhellmann | it seems like that would be the case with this library, too | 18:26 |
| claudiub | harlowja: lucky, super-awesome is not yet taken on pypi. :D | 18:26 |
| harlowja | +2 for silica lol | 18:26 |
| dhellmann | which is not a bad thing, just an indication that it doesn't need to be part of oslo | 18:26 |
| harlowja | claudiub lol, damn i gotta register that | 18:26 |
| claudiub | harlowja: that's awesome, didn't make that connection in my mind. :)) | 18:27 |
| harlowja | and/or https://pypi.python.org/pypi/silicate | 18:27 |
| claudiub | the 'silica' one | 18:27 |
| harlowja | :-P | 18:27 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: under the new big tent rules, you could form your own team, or you could just set the project up outside of an official team | 18:27 |
| harlowja | ya, sometimes i have brilliant ideas, haha | 18:27 |
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| harlowja | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass#Ingredients ... | 18:28 |
| harlowja | Silica (the chemical compound SiO2) is a common fundamental constituent of glass (windows) | 18:28 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:28 |
| claudiub | dhellmann: I guess that's true. But to be honest, I've started to see some implication from other people as well. | 18:28 |
| claudiub | dhellmann: For example, on the networking-hyperv module, which decomposed from neutron in the last cycle. | 18:28 |
| claudiub | dhellmann: Are there any disadvantages of being in oslo then? | 18:29 |
| harlowja | u have to deal with me | 18:31 |
| harlowja | hahaha | 18:31 |
| harlowja | :-/ | 18:31 |
| claudiub | harlowja: that isn't bad. :P I like puns / clever jokes. :P | 18:31 |
| harlowja | ha | 18:31 |
| harlowja | ok then, thennn u have to deal with dhellmann | 18:31 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:31 |
| claudiub | harlowja: have you ever noticed that lol is basically just a dude with his hands up? :D | 18:32 |
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| harlowja | :) | 18:32 |
| harlowja | yup | 18:32 |
| harlowja | \o\ | 18:32 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: I'm not sure there are any disadvantages from your perspective, but I think there are some from ours just because of the lack of overlap in the contributing teams. As I said, that's not a *bad* thing, but there's no reason to force the library under oslo any more so we should discuss whether it should really live here or not before going too far. | 18:32 |
| harlowja | /o/ | 18:32 |
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| harlowja | i'll have a hard time knowing if https://github.com/cloudbase/oslo.windows/blob/bp/oslo-windows-proposal/oslo_windows/utils/hostutils.py#L41 and such are correct | 18:33 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: +2a on the automaton patch | 18:33 |
| harlowja | i didn't even know windows had its own query language until i read that :-P | 18:33 |
| harlowja | dhellmann thx | 18:33 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: I want to make sure I'm being clear that I think it's great to have this library, but that we should make sure it finds the right home and not just assume that has to be Oslo. | 18:34 |
| claudiub | harlowja: it does, which is cool. it's very sql-like. :P Plus, I saw once a guy was modifying excels through python wmi. :D | 18:34 |
| harlowja | holy crap | 18:34 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:34 |
| harlowja | claudiub just in general, thats my issue with the oslo.windows, vs say 'silica' | 18:37 |
| harlowja | unknown how to really review it by me, not saying thats bad, just not sure i can help much, ha | 18:37 |
| harlowja | same problem i've had with some of the new cloudinit v2 work | 18:37 |
| claudiub | harlowja: http://www.numbergrinder.com/2008/11/pulling-data-from-excel-using-python-com/ this is using win32com. WMI, which we are using is based on that module. | 18:37 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:38 |
| harlowja | nice | 18:38 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init/blob/master/cloudinit/osys/windows/network.py#L59 and such scared me, lol | 18:38 |
| harlowja | claudiub could this oslo.windows stuff be used there | 18:38 |
| harlowja | or whatever the name becomes | 18:39 |
| harlowja | (that'd be a nice reason to have it not be oslo if so) | 18:39 |
| harlowja | *not be oslo.<suffix> | 18:39 |
| claudiub | harlowja: yeah, why not. that is the point of the library: not to give other non-windows people nightmares. :D | 18:39 |
| harlowja | sooo that pushes me to thinking it could be 'silicia' or whatever | 18:40 |
| claudiub | oslo.silica? :D | 18:40 |
| harlowja | well the oslo prefix is typically meant to distingush a project as 'openstack specific' | 18:40 |
| harlowja | *afaik* | 18:40 |
| dhellmann | right | 18:41 |
| harlowja | if cloud-init could use it, cloud-init used more than just openstack (ec2...) | 18:41 |
| harlowja | claudiub have u talked to the other claudiu that is working on cloud-init? | 18:41 |
| harlowja | *claudiupopa (the other claidu) | 18:41 |
| claudiub | yeah, I know him. I don't like people having my own name. :)) | 18:42 |
| harlowja | :-P | 18:42 |
| harlowja | cause i'd really like for https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init/tree/master/cloudinit/osys/windows/util and whatever other stuff there to be in some common place, ha | 18:42 |
| harlowja | that code scares me, lol | 18:42 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init/blob/master/cloudinit/osys/windows/util/kernel32.py :-/ | 18:42 |
| * harlowja runs away, lol | 18:42 | |
| claudiub | harlowja: j/k. We are in different offices and work on different projects, so we don't interact much, but he's a nice guy. | 18:43 |
| harlowja | perhaps this could be the oppurtunity to interact, ha | 18:43 |
| claudiub | harlowja: but yeah, that kind of code should belong in the windows library, IMO. | 18:44 |
| harlowja | especially if both u are creating some utility code, and cloud-init also has similar stuff | 18:44 |
| harlowja | claudiub def, i'd like that, less code that i don't know how to debug in cloud-init, ha | 18:44 |
| harlowja | maybe u could ask him what he thinks? | 18:45 |
| harlowja | this could be a good reason to not have it so oslo-centric | 18:45 |
| claudiub | yeah, we can discuss it. | 18:46 |
| harlowja | cool | 18:46 |
| claudiub | anyways | 18:47 |
| claudiub | if not a oslo project, a stackforge project would still be useful, IMO | 18:47 |
| harlowja | agreed | 18:48 |
| harlowja | or the big-tent stuff means i think it can still be an openstack one, dhellmann knows more of this policy stuff than i do though | 18:48 |
| harlowja | openstack/silica | 18:48 |
| harlowja | :-P | 18:48 |
| harlowja | openstack/windows might not go over well, lol | 18:48 |
| dhellmann | right, we're doing away with the stackforge git namespace, so either way it would be openstack/something | 18:51 |
| harlowja | *preferably not openstack/windows ;) | 18:51 |
| harlowja | (i have a feeling that might not fly, lol) | 18:51 |
| claudiub | I don't see any reason why 'windows' is a bad name. | 18:51 |
| claudiub | i mean, we have networking-hyperv | 18:51 |
| claudiub | that seems to fly. :) | 18:51 |
| harlowja | kk, idk, i'll let the legal peopel decide | 18:51 |
| harlowja | just would seem to be somewhat confusing, ha | 18:52 |
| claudiub | well, I'm going to ask around then, just in case. :) | 18:52 |
| harlowja | kk | 18:52 |
| harlowja | maybe its fine, (am not lawyer, ha) | 18:52 |
| claudiub | if you won't see me online in less than a week, that means I'm fired. :) | 18:52 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:52 |
| harlowja | y! is hiring | 18:53 |
| harlowja | ha | 18:53 |
| harlowja | (always hiring, ha) | 18:53 |
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| claudiub | good to know. :P I already know openstack people at yahoo. :P | 18:53 |
| harlowja | ya, and i sometimes over hear we want to do more with windows for some purposes or other | 18:54 |
| * harlowja some windows automated testing (not sure) | 18:54 | |
| claudiub | dhellmann: harlowja: so, do you think that it should be a topic for discussion at the next oslo meeting whether openstack/oslo.windows should be accepted or it should be accepted as openstack/windows (or silica) or something else? | 18:56 |
| harlowja | claudiub i won't be around for that meeting (taking vacation for a couple of weeks) but it seems like a good topic | 18:56 |
| claudiub | harlowja: yeah, it seems that yahoo is not the only one. | 18:56 |
| harlowja | and/or a TC topic? | 18:56 |
| harlowja | dhellmann i think is on the TC from what i remember, idk | 18:56 |
| harlowja | ha | 18:56 |
| claudiub | we're actually planning something cool for the tokyo summit. :) | 18:57 |
| claudiub | hopefully it will be done in time. :D | 18:57 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: this is a good topic for the oslo team. You could start a mailing list thread to lead up to the meeting Monday, and add it to the agenda in the wiki | 18:58 |
| claudiub | cool, thanks. :) | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo | 18:58 |
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| claudiub | also, "doing away with the stackforge git namespace", what does that mean? Does that mean that all the stackforge repos will be kicked out or just moved somewhere else? | 18:59 |
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| claudiub | dhellmann: ^ | 19:00 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: renamed to be under openstack/ | 19:00 |
| claudiub | ok, cool. :) | 19:00 |
| dhellmann | claudiub: http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20150615-stackforge-retirement.html | 19:01 |
| harlowja | claudiub http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2015/tc.2015-07-28-20.03.log.html#l-11 also | 19:03 |
| harlowja | and http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2015/tc.2015-07-21-20.01.log.html#l-29 | 19:03 |
| claudiub | cool, will have to read all of that, ty. :) | 19:04 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | hi! anyone alive? I've got a quick and simple (I hope) question | 23:38 |
| kzaitsev_mb | There is a 'x-openstack-request-id' thing. | 23:39 |
| kzaitsev_mb | First time I read about it I basicaly thought, that this header would be kept intact when crossing project boundaries. Say heat asks neutron, neutron asks nova and the whole chain has the same request-id | 23:41 |
| kzaitsev_mb | is that so? or is the request-id new for every request made and just serves as the mapping point? | 23:41 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'm asking here, because oslo.middleware is the module most people use for it. | 23:42 |
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