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openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Use oslo_config new type PortOpt for port options https://review.openstack.org/238395 | 01:31 |
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openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: ignore .eggs directory https://review.openstack.org/248973 | 01:39 |
gus | Apparently oslo.privsep needs to ~work on windows - first I heard that openstack supported something other than Linux :/ | 01:49 |
gus | I assume other oslo projects hit this too - how can I test my code against this other platform? | 01:50 |
harlowja_ | :-/ | 01:51 |
* harlowja_ hasn't hit that, wonder what windows stuff is used where | 01:51 | |
harlowja_ | gus rootwrap works on windows? | 01:51 |
harlowja_ | *if u know | 01:51 |
harlowja_ | seems odd to require oslo.privsep to if rootwrap doesn't | 01:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Add Warning when we cannot notify https://review.openstack.org/248363 | 02:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/tooz: Add Consul Driver https://review.openstack.org/245362 | 02:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of a multiprocessing queue use sockets via asyncore (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/244376 | 03:13 |
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openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Drop python 2.6 support https://review.openstack.org/248675 | 03:17 |
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openstackgerrit | ayoung proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Convert Exceptions to failures. https://review.openstack.org/165908 | 03:33 |
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gus | harlowja_: rootwrap-the-idea should work fine on windows (I guess), although obviously the commands you can execute might be different (and perhaps no "sudo"). | 03:47 |
gcb | gus, interesting things , you mean powershell in windows ? | 03:51 |
gus | gcb: presumably. | 03:51 |
gcb | runas /noprofile /user:Administrator cmd #linke http://superuser.com/questions/42537/is-there-any-sudo-command-for-windows | 03:52 |
gus | All I know is that (apparently!) some people use nova/hyperv on windows - someone suggested it might be in a cygwin environment (so there's already a unix compat layer there) | 03:52 |
gus | I'm using lots of unix features in oslo.privsep (separate processes, setuid, unix sockets, etc) and now Linux-only capabilities. | 03:53 |
gcb | gus, nova/hyperv use somethings like WMI python interface, we can check how the guys did . | 03:54 |
gus | I'm also wondering how I can test anything - since I'm not going to know if I have some hidden unix-assumption without actually trying it out. | 03:56 |
gcb | maybe you need talk with Hyper-V virt driver maintainer from cloudbase . Let met find their nic name | 03:56 |
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gcb | "Claudiu Belu" | 03:59 |
gcb | his nick name in IRC is 'claudiub' | 03:59 |
gcb | Maybe he will give some good suggestions :-) | 03:59 |
gus | Let's try an easier question - what predicate should I use to guard linux-specific or windows-specific code branches? | 04:00 |
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gus | (escalated my questions to openstack-dev@) | 04:20 |
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gcb | yes, we can get feedback from openstack-dev | 05:00 |
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openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Fix broken document link in README.rst https://review.openstack.org/249030 | 06:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of a multiprocessing queue use sockets via asyncore (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/244376 | 07:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of a multiprocessing queue use sockets via asyncore (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/244376 | 08:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Move imageutils from oslo-incubator to oslo.utils https://review.openstack.org/249107 | 10:07 |
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dims | flaper87 : any idea why this is amqp1-f21 failing? (http://logs.openstack.org/56/248656/1/check/gate-oslo.messaging-dsvm-functional-amqp1-f21/e1f4b13/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz) | 11:10 |
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flaper87 | dims: looking | 11:12 |
flaper87 | dims: FWIW, kgiusti has a patch to move the f21 job to CentOS | 11:12 |
flaper87 | it's possible that it's failing because of an incompatibility w/ f21 | 11:12 |
flaper87 | (hence the change to CentOS) | 11:12 |
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dims | flaper87 : ah i see it merged 2 hours ago (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248806/) let me try a recheck then. thanks! | 11:13 |
flaper87 | dims: np :) | 11:13 |
* flaper87 crosses his fingers | 11:14 | |
dims | past rechecks had not helped in other reviews yesterday | 11:14 |
dims | :) | 11:14 |
flaper87 | dims: btw, did you see qpidd is now gone? | 11:14 |
flaper87 | just want to make sure you're aware of that | 11:14 |
dims | y i saw the review float by, thanks for the heads up | 11:14 |
dims | flaper87 : may be worth a quick email to the -ops ML? | 11:15 |
flaper87 | dims: yeah, I'll be sending one out today | 11:17 |
dims | perfect thanks | 11:17 |
lxsli | dims: please would you +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246404/ again? I had a pep8 error | 11:21 |
dims | lxsli ack getting this in now, it's been through churn already | 11:23 |
lxsli | dims: woohoo, thank you :D | 11:24 |
openstackgerrit | Tom Cammann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add hostname config type https://review.openstack.org/238517 | 11:30 |
openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Random failure with ZmqPortRangeExceededException https://review.openstack.org/249147 | 11:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow: Convert executor proxied engine options into their correct type https://review.openstack.org/195796 | 11:44 |
openstackgerrit | Vladimir Eremin proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Pluggable CMDB for oslo.config https://review.openstack.org/243114 | 11:44 |
yottatsa | dims could you please look at https://review.openstack.org/243114 | 11:45 |
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dims | yottatsa : does it have inputs from aevenchannyy? let's please ask him for a review | 11:49 |
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yottatsa | dims I'll ask him | 11:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexey Lebedev proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Provide missing parts of error messages https://review.openstack.org/249162 | 11:58 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.middleware: Drop python 2.6 support https://review.openstack.org/248675 | 11:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.serialization: msgpackutils: drop Python 2.6 support https://review.openstack.org/245783 | 12:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.config: Add 'mutable' param to Opt https://review.openstack.org/246404 | 12:30 |
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openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.config: Drop python 2.6 support https://review.openstack.org/249181 | 12:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Tahio Avila proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove dependency on oslo_log https://review.openstack.org/249190 | 13:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/tooz: lock: allow locks to be manipulated solely on their name https://review.openstack.org/249200 | 13:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Tahio Avila proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove dependency on oslo_log https://review.openstack.org/249190 | 13:37 |
* krotscheck peers at the new oslo_middleware version. | 13:40 | |
* krotscheck missed a policy discussion somewhere, didn't he. | 13:40 | |
krotscheck | I'm guessing the "dropping python 26 support" bit warranted the version upgrade? | 13:41 |
openstackgerrit | Yulia Portnova proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [WIP] Implement message compression https://review.openstack.org/249215 | 13:42 |
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ozamiatin | SpamapS: hi, dims_ told you wanted to discuss something about zmq | 14:01 |
ozamiatin | SpamapS: sorry I wasn't on IRC that time and didn't see your messages | 14:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/oslo.db: Added reader_allows_async decorator https://review.openstack.org/249235 | 14:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/oslo.db: Added reader_allows_async decorator https://review.openstack.org/249235 | 14:25 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/248372 | 14:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/oslo.db: Added reader_allows_async decorator https://review.openstack.org/249235 | 14:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: WIP: [zmq] PUB-SUB pipeline. https://review.openstack.org/249326 | 17:00 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config: add reno for release notes https://review.openstack.org/249329 | 17:02 |
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dhellmann | dims, harlowja_, jd__ , & other cores: I'd like some feedback on this reno patch before I propose it as an example for other libraries ^^ | 17:03 |
mriedem | dims: could use your ack on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247199/ - it's the thing to fix neutron notifications in stable/liberty with o.m 3.0 and that new alias to the messaging drivers | 17:04 |
dims | mriedem : done | 17:05 |
mriedem | thanks | 17:05 |
mriedem | oh thought you had stable power on reqs | 17:05 |
dims | mriedem : nope | 17:05 |
mriedem | mtreinish: do you want to make sure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247199/ is sane? | 17:06 |
dhellmann | mriedem : +2a | 17:06 |
mriedem | cool, thanks | 17:06 |
mriedem | adam_g: ping me when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247199/ syncs to neutron stable/liberty and we'll get it in | 17:07 |
mriedem | adam_g: and we could probably give a heads up to armax for a stable liberty release | 17:07 |
mtreinish | mriedem: heh, do you think you got all of them :) | 17:08 |
mriedem | mtreinish: i hope so | 17:08 |
mtreinish | mriedem: are we expecting to bump g-r/constraints to 3.0.0 at some point in the future, or not on liberty? | 17:08 |
mriedem | g-r no | 17:09 |
mriedem | we shouldn't raise the minimum required version in g-r | 17:09 |
dims | dhellmann : right now we use git commands to generate the list of things that got changed. how would i do the same and add them to reno (at least for short term)? | 17:09 |
mriedem | mtreinish: that's why i had to blacklist so much | 17:09 |
mtreinish | mriedem: I really just meant are we ever going to bump constraints. I realize we shouldn't ever bump the min | 17:10 |
mriedem | mtreinish: but i am curious as to how we're going to avoid major versions of libs breaking things that aren't tested in the upper-constraints chnages | 17:10 |
mriedem | like neutron notifications | 17:10 |
dhellmann | dims: I'm not sure we would. I think we want to start writing more useful release notes. | 17:10 |
mriedem | u-c gets bumped | 17:10 |
mriedem | there was a mass stable/liberty u-c bump a week or two ago | 17:10 |
mriedem | mtreinish: but i'm told we can't cap libs in stable/liberty, even major versions | 17:11 |
mtreinish | mriedem: well that was the assumption with the constraints model, is that we have a set of tests which were sufficient | 17:11 |
mriedem | b/c u-c should be correct | 17:11 |
mriedem | yeah, but the u-c testing can't possibly test everything that can go wrong | 17:11 |
mtreinish | right, it's best effort. They have a couple of jobs which are supposed to be good enough coverage | 17:12 |
mriedem | so for example, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247735/ | 17:12 |
dims | dhellmann : i need something until we do that :) | 17:12 |
mriedem | mtreinish: that should be removed from oslo.messaging at some point | 17:12 |
mriedem | but that some point will break stable/liberty neutron if not capping oslo.messaging | 17:12 |
mriedem | so i'm not sure how we are handling that besides capping in g-r | 17:12 |
dhellmann | dims : I'm not sure what you think is missing? are you talking about for sending email announcements? | 17:13 |
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dhellmann | dims : ttx and I discussed earlier today using reno to produce the body of the release announcement emails, instead of the simple git log we're doing now. There will be a short adjustment period where we might have to do some stuff by hand, but that shouldn't last long. | 17:14 |
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harlowja_ | dhellmann for reno, i was talking to lin (a horizon and keystone core) who also works at y! and he was thinking that reno might be overkill for oslo stuff? | 17:53 |
harlowja_ | maybe its not? (does it generate notes from commit messages or is it all manual?) | 17:54 |
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harlowja_ | stuff by hand == sadness throughout the land | 17:58 |
harlowja_ | mriedem cool, say https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247735/ | 17:59 |
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harlowja_ | thx for that, was going to get around to that today if nobody else did it | 17:59 |
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dhellmann | harlowja_ : I thought the same at first, but we would like to standardize on how to generate the announcement emails and that's easier if we use one tool. | 18:14 |
harlowja_ | dhellmann ya, i get that, dhellmann does it still retain https://github.com/openstack-infra/release-tools/blob/master/releasetools/release_notes.py#L28 | 18:15 |
harlowja_ | if it doesn't have those i'm not sure we can use it, lol | 18:15 |
harlowja_ | especially 'tickled pink' | 18:15 |
dhellmann | harlowja_ : we can keep the sentiments :-) | 18:16 |
harlowja_ | :) | 18:16 |
harlowja_ | anyways, guess we can see how it goes, i do wonder how many people will hand-craft it and keep that up to date | 18:17 |
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dhellmann | harlowja_ : that's a fair point. I'll mark that WIP and see if I can figure out a way to automatically tell whether a project wants to use reno or not in a reliable way | 18:18 |
harlowja_ | or reno could extract stuff optionally from commit messages? | 18:19 |
harlowja_ | *well formatted commit messages | 18:19 |
harlowja_ | it almost seems like the reno format could just be the commit message format (if people did it correctly) | 18:19 |
dhellmann | harlowja_ : maybe. we decided against using commit messages elsewhere because they're immutable | 18:19 |
harlowja_ | ya, its a balance | 18:20 |
harlowja_ | do people expect to mutate the release notes after relase? | 18:20 |
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harlowja_ | *mutate the release notes for a release after the release | 18:21 |
* harlowja_ just wondering | 18:21 | |
dims_ | harlowja_ : stable branch maintainers? | 18:21 |
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harlowja_ | wouldn't that be an additive change to a new release notes file? | 18:22 |
harlowja_ | *for whatever the next stable release ise | 18:22 |
harlowja_ | *is | 18:22 |
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* harlowja_ immutability makes me happy in the morning | 18:22 | |
harlowja_ | lol | 18:23 |
dims_ | dhellmann : the really short cycle for oslo libs... | 18:23 |
dhellmann | harlowja_ : fixing typos was the main use case for that | 18:24 |
harlowja_ | what are these things u call typos | 18:24 |
harlowja_ | lol | 18:24 |
dhellmann | esp. if we get something like a bug number wrong | 18:24 |
dhellmann | dims_ : yeah, between you and harlowja_ I'm rethinking this | 18:25 |
dims_ | dhellmann : we'll have to nudge people more to add to reno(s). just worried that the summary announce emails may end up not having enough reno(s) even when there were a bunch of reviews | 18:25 |
* dhellmann nods | 18:25 | |
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dims_ | dhellmann : "We don't have much on the agenda for today, so let's bikeshed on the name. ;-)" LOL! | 18:39 |
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dhellmann | dims_ : :-) | 18:55 |
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harlowja_ | oh where is the bikeshedding happening, i can't miss out | 19:10 |
* harlowja_ gets my popcorn ready | 19:11 | |
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dims_ | harlowja_ the TC reviews for os-win :) | 19:21 |
harlowja_ | ah | 19:21 |
dims_ | harlowja_ we were just joking about bikeshedding :) | 19:22 |
harlowja_ | oh | 19:23 |
harlowja_ | durn | 19:23 |
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vilobhmm11 | dhellmann : Can you please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246021/ . This is needed for the Tooz Consul Driver. Thanks! | 19:32 |
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dhellmann | vilobhmm11 : one small change needed, then I'll approve based on dims' existing +2 | 19:35 |
vilobhmm11 | dhellmann : sure thanks! | 19:35 |
mriedem | dhellmann: re: the previous oslo.messaging convo with ihar, and deprecation warnings, that | 19:37 |
mriedem | that's what https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247735/ is supposed to do | 19:37 |
mriedem | when you import the old private modules you get a deprecation warning | 19:37 |
mriedem | i'm not sure when we can remove that alias though, i think after liberty-eol probably | 19:38 |
mriedem | or mitaka-eol if neutron doesn't remove that until N | 19:38 |
mriedem | so i'll see you guys in like 2 years or something | 19:38 |
dhellmann | mriedem: ok. Does the warning clearly tell the deployer how to use the new name that isn't tied to the class location? | 19:38 |
dhellmann | mriedem : I think we're going to get neutron to remove them next cycle | 19:38 |
dhellmann | and cinder needs to do the same, I think | 19:39 |
mriedem | no it's just a standard module removal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247735/ | 19:39 |
mriedem | oops https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247735/3/oslo_messaging/notify/_impl_messaging.py | 19:39 |
dhellmann | right, so the option value shouldn't need to be a module name | 19:39 |
dhellmann | so I was thinking a bit of smart code that said "you put neutron.some.old.class.path and now you should use short-name instead" | 19:39 |
vilobhmm11 | dhellmann, dims_ : updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246021/7 and added license info. Please check when free. | 19:40 |
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dhellmann | vilobhmm11 : +2a | 19:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of a multiprocessing queue use sockets via asyncore https://review.openstack.org/244376 | 20:05 |
harlowja_ | mriedem http://docs.openstack.org/developer/debtcollector/examples.html#deprecating-anything-else u could use if u want | 20:11 |
harlowja_ | but up to u | 20:11 |
harlowja_ | imho its in the meh territory | 20:12 |
mriedem | harlowja_: i'm definitely meh on this, | 20:15 |
harlowja_ | double meh | 20:15 |
harlowja_ | ha | 20:15 |
mriedem | i want the neutron team to take the lead on this since they are the ones exposing the use of a deprecated path | 20:15 |
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harlowja_ | ya | 20:16 |
mriedem | and the next time it breaks, i'm not getting involved | 20:16 |
harlowja_ | agreed | 20:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of a multiprocessing queue use sockets via asyncore https://review.openstack.org/244376 | 20:43 |
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adam_g | mriedem, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249367/ | 20:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/248372 | 21:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/oslo.config: Update the list_opts documentation for new api https://review.openstack.org/249454 | 22:13 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/oslo.config: Update the list_opts documentation for new api https://review.openstack.org/249454 | 22:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/oslo.config: Update the list_opts documentation for new api https://review.openstack.org/249454 | 22:41 |
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