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| boris-42 | harlowja: oh nooo osprofiler bug | 00:04 |
| harlowja | lol | 00:04 |
| harlowja | ya, just use issues imho boris-42 | 00:04 |
| harlowja | trace_cls scares me, lol | 00:05 |
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| boris-42 | harlowja: Russian mafia code =) | 00:07 |
| harlowja | def | 00:07 |
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| harlowja | lol | 00:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow: Pass through run timeout in engine run() https://review.openstack.org/253131 | 00:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Use the notifier library inside the oslo.messaging notifier https://review.openstack.org/272341 | 01:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow: Retrieve the store from flowdetails as well, if it exists https://review.openstack.org/239945 | 03:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.config: Warn if immutable options change https://review.openstack.org/268088 | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.config: Report mutated options https://review.openstack.org/268089 | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.config: Fake attrs on _Namespace https://review.openstack.org/264847 | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.config: Make _Namespace the value-holder https://review.openstack.org/264787 | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add 'mutable' param to Opt https://review.openstack.org/251471 | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed openstack/oslo.config: Make list_all_sections return a list https://review.openstack.org/270212 | 10:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Javier Peña proposed openstack/oslo.config: Do not fail on certain config option help strings https://review.openstack.org/272476 | 11:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Reduce proxy for direct messaging https://review.openstack.org/272085 | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Reduce proxy for direct messaging https://review.openstack.org/272085 | 12:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Yulia Portnova proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Improve simulator.py https://review.openstack.org/272505 | 12:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Support KeyboardInterrupt for broker https://review.openstack.org/272512 | 13:00 |
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| dhellmann | dims : we should probably release this fix, if it's breaking folks' doc builds: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272476 | 14:39 |
| dims | dhellmann : +2A looks like a easy fix | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I should have made that catch Exception anyway | 14:41 |
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| dhellmann | dims : I can deal with the release, if you're busy this morning | 14:47 |
| dims | dhellmann : yes, please. All day meetings today and tomorrow at a customer site. thanks! | 14:48 |
| dhellmann | dims : np, I've got this one | 14:48 |
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| dims | @dukhlov : @ozamiatin : @yportnova : @dmitryme @sileht : are we ready for a oslo.messaging release later this week? | 14:51 |
| sileht | why not | 14:51 |
| dmitryme | yep, agree | 14:52 |
| dukhlov | I need to fix one test for my latest code review, but I plan to do it today | 14:52 |
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| lxsli | morning dhellmann | 15:23 |
| lxsli | I fixed the pep8 error in my chain :| | 15:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/osprofiler: Move osprofiler tests into osprofiler https://review.openstack.org/271582 | 15:24 |
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| dhellmann | hi, lxsli | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.config: Do not fail on certain config option help strings https://review.openstack.org/272476 | 15:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ronald Bradford proposed openstack/oslo.config: Retain correct order of defined config options https://review.openstack.org/272289 | 15:47 |
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| lxsli | dhellmann: hi | 16:04 |
| lxsli | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264787/ if you'd be so kind | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | lxsli : it's on my review list for today | 16:04 |
| lxsli | awesome thank you | 16:05 |
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| dukhlov | dims: test was fixed and could be merged - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272152/ | 16:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Ronald Bradford proposed openstack/oslo.log: Remove deprecated use-syslog-rfc-format option https://review.openstack.org/263785 | 16:39 |
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| therve | FWIW, I opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1538204 against nova, but I believe there may be a oslo.service issue | 16:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1538204 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Failed to stop nova-api in grenade tests" [Undecided,New] | 16:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Add ability to pass args/kwargs to obj_class init https://review.openstack.org/272641 | 16:49 |
| therve | It looks related to recent changes around signal handlers | 16:49 |
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| therve | Ah maybe not, maybe looks like the fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.service/+bug/1524907 | 16:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524907 in oslo.service "Race condition in SIGTERM signal handler" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 16:56 |
| therve | haypo, WDYT? | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sven Anderson proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Extend compile_catalog command to compile all .po files https://review.openstack.org/271562 | 19:12 |
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| haypo | therve: i backported my SIGTERM/SIGINT to Liberty, it was accepted, but it's not merged yet: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256443/ | 19:20 |
| haypo | therve: i see rechecks since january 4 | 19:20 |
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| therve | haypo, Yeah I wonder if it's the same bug, as the symptoms are different | 19:24 |
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| haypo | therve: where can i find the full traceback? | 19:26 |
| therve | haypo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1538204 | 19:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1538204 in oslo.service "Failed to stop nova-api in grenade tests" [Undecided,New] | 19:26 |
| haypo | therve: that's the full traceback? | 19:26 |
| therve | haypo, http://logs.openstack.org/25/272425/1/gate/gate-grenade-dsvm-heat/b32eda2/logs/old/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=ERROR Sorry | 19:27 |
| haypo | ah thanks | 19:27 |
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| haypo | therve: my traceback was different | 19:28 |
| therve | haypo, If it was the same I wouldn't ask you :) | 19:29 |
| harlowja | interesting | 19:29 |
| haypo | therve: i have to find again all pieces of the issue, i lost the context | 19:29 |
| * harlowja thought with primitives (sig is an int) that python handled size changes internally correctly | 19:29 | |
| harlowja | or was that only with strings it handles that | 19:29 |
| therve | harlowja, ? It's on a dict? | 19:30 |
| harlowja | https://hg.python.org/cpython/file/tip/Objects/dictobject.c#l2946 | 19:30 |
| harlowja | https://hg.python.org/cpython/file/tip/Objects/dictobject.c#l3029 | 19:31 |
| haypo | therve: i don't understand how the code can work :) | 19:31 |
| harlowja | both of those are the places where that happens | 19:31 |
| haypo | therve: maybe it only fails when if has to handle two signals? | 19:31 |
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| haypo | therve: modifying a dict while iterating on it is a bad idea | 19:31 |
| harlowja | or maybe it was only sets that handle (primitive) keys diseappering when iterating | 19:31 |
| harlowja | or lists, can't remember, ha | 19:31 |
| haypo | therve: to me, there is a design issue. we must schedule eventlet calls, not call directly signal handlers | 19:32 |
| therve | haypo, Right, it probably means 2 handlers are called "at the same time" | 19:32 |
| haypo | therve: otherwise, bad things happen | 19:32 |
| haypo | therve: my issue was that the signal handler was called twice in a reentrant call | 19:32 |
| haypo | therve: the code is not really reentrant-proof | 19:32 |
| therve | Right, the issue here looks like we call them both in parallel, I'd think | 19:33 |
| harlowja | ya there is a lot of 'self.signal_handler.clear()' in https://github.com/openstack/oslo.service/blob/master/oslo_service/service.py :-P | 19:33 |
| haypo | therve: hum no, i don't think that they are called in parallel, but sequentially | 19:34 |
| harlowja | haypo does the python interpreter buffer them (signals) up in a list before delivering to the process? | 19:34 |
| therve | haypo, Sure nothing can happen in parallel in python. I mean that there is a context switching after the clear to another signal handler | 19:34 |
| harlowja | signal handlers are probably different imho | 19:35 |
| harlowja | depends on what the interpreter does for deliver of signals into user code | 19:35 |
| harlowja | *for delivery | 19:36 |
| therve | Right | 19:36 |
| haypo | harlowja: the python signal handler can be called just *anytime, | 19:36 |
| harlowja | right | 19:36 |
| haypo | harlowja: the python signal handler can be called just *anytime*, between two python instructions | 19:36 |
| harlowja | right | 19:36 |
| therve | You generally need to make a "call into main thread" when in a signal handler | 19:36 |
| haypo | harlowja: it's terrible. that's why it's much better to delay the final call using eventlet | 19:36 |
| haypo | therve: yeah, exactly | 19:36 |
| therve | Which we don't seem to do in oslo.service | 19:37 |
| harlowja | ya, so put the signals gotten into some buffer/queue that the main thread handles in good time? | 19:37 |
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| haypo | harlowja: we should just use eventlet.spawn() | 19:38 |
| haypo | harlowja: to "queue" the call | 19:38 |
| harlowja | seems fair, if that works | 19:38 |
| therve | That sounds right to me | 19:40 |
| haypo | in the meanwhile, we may copy the list of callbacks in _handle_signals | 19:41 |
| haypo | before iterating on the list | 19:41 |
| haypo | therve: i'm not sure that i really understood your issue | 19:42 |
| haypo | therve: it looks like a reentrant call to clear()? | 19:42 |
| therve | haypo, Does it? We would see it in the traceback, no? | 19:42 |
| haypo | therve: but if we change how signals are queued, the reentrant issue will go away | 19:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.service: Spin off the handling of signals into an eventlet thread https://review.openstack.org/272707 | 19:43 |
| harlowja | ^ perhaps | 19:43 |
| haypo | therve: the problem is that self._signal_handlers dict is modified. only two methods change it: clear() & add_handler() | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.service: Spin off the handling of signals into an eventlet thread https://review.openstack.org/272707 | 19:43 |
| harlowja | the other shitty part is that its a collections.DefaultDict | 19:44 |
| harlowja | and that has slightly different iteration semantics afaik | 19:44 |
| haypo | therve: hum sorry, add_handler() doesn't change the dict, only values. but modifying dict values in a loop iterating in dict keys is ok | 19:44 |
| haypo | therve: it looks like clear() is called, and during the call, clear() is called again | 19:44 |
| therve | haypo, It does change it as it's a default dict | 19:44 |
| haypo | therve: well, i don't think that add_handler() is called at exit | 19:45 |
| therve | No probably not | 19:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.service: Spin off the handling of signals into an eventlet thread https://review.openstack.org/272707 | 19:46 |
| harlowja | haypo ^ | 19:46 |
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| harlowja | (maybe should wait() though) | 19:47 |
| harlowja | *shouldn't | 19:47 |
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| haypo | harlowja: it's unclear to me how we should handle two signals sent quickly. ignore the second signal? call the signal handler twice? | 19:48 |
| harlowja | got me, ha | 19:49 |
| haypo | harlowja: asyncio has an interesting feature. a callback can be cancelled | 19:50 |
| harlowja | woah, thats useable in openstack in 15 years | 19:50 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:50 |
| haypo | harlowja: if you schedule a call to the signal handler, but then unregister the signal handler, the callback is cancelled | 19:50 |
| haypo | harlowja: come on, i'm not proposing to switch to asyncio. just steal good ideas | 19:51 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:51 |
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| haypo | harlowja: (it's up to you to understand "we wouldn't have such race condition using asyncio" :-D) | 19:52 |
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| harlowja | asyncio fix it all | 19:53 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:53 |
| haypo | eventlet is broken by design :-D | 19:53 |
| haypo | it looks like _sigterm() must only be called once | 19:56 |
| haypo | otherwise, bad things can happen | 19:56 |
| haypo | currently, _sigterm() starts by calling self.signal_handler.clear() to reduce the risk of race condition | 19:56 |
| haypo | but it looks like it's not enough | 19:56 |
| harlowja | ya, clear() is sprinkled all over that code | 19:57 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:57 |
| harlowja | more clear! | 19:57 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:57 |
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| harlowja | defaultdict < 3.5 afaik is also in python, so clear() probably isn't as atomic as people think it is there | 20:00 |
| harlowja | or i thought that was the case | 20:01 |
| harlowja | or was that ordereddict | 20:02 |
| harlowja | guess defaultdict in c-code, nm | 20:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.service: Spin off the handling of signals into an eventlet thread https://review.openstack.org/272707 | 20:11 |
| harlowja | haypo ^ | 20:11 |
| harlowja | updated with some ideas on how to reduce more issues | 20:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.service: Spin off the handling of signals into an eventlet thread https://review.openstack.org/272707 | 20:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/oslo.service: Fix race condition on handling signals https://review.openstack.org/272718 | 20:21 |
| haypo | therve, harlowja ^^ ok, i tried something | 20:21 |
| harlowja | ya, similar to 272707 | 20:21 |
| harlowja | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272707/5/oslo_service/service.py does something similar, either i guess is ok | 20:22 |
| haypo | harlowja: your patch changes the behaviour of SIGTERM signal handlers | 20:22 |
| harlowja | ya, thought u said SIGTERM stuff should never be called twice | 20:22 |
| harlowja | so it won't be, lol | 20:22 |
| haypo | harlowja: it starts by removing all handlers of SIGTERM. i'm not sure that it's part of the oslo.service API | 20:22 |
| harlowja | right | 20:23 |
| harlowja | i can have it follow the other path that re-adds them | 20:23 |
| haypo | harlowja: yeah, in practice, people probably don't want to see their SIGTERM handler be called twice sequentially, or worse, reentrant call to the handler (which can happen currently) | 20:23 |
| harlowja | ya, the .pop() and re-add under certain cases was for that | 20:23 |
| haypo | harlowja: "i can have it follow the other path that re-adds them" you cannot with your design | 20:23 |
| haypo | harlowja: _handle_signals() must be reentrant | 20:24 |
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| haypo | harlowja: you cannot start to play with a list or dict in a reentrant funciton | 20:24 |
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| harlowja | k, then i guess https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272718/ is fine (does enough, if it works, ha) | 20:25 |
| haypo | harlowja: my change uses spawn() at a different level to reduce the risk of race condition. well, the largest part of my change are comments to explain the issue :-D | 20:26 |
| harlowja | :-P | 20:26 |
| harlowja | okie dokie then | 20:27 |
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| haypo | harlowja: i'm still trying to understand your patch. but to me, it's obvious that it changes the current behaviour | 20:27 |
| haypo | harlowja: but i don't know yet if it's ok or not :) | 20:27 |
| harlowja | lol, np | 20:27 |
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| haypo | harlowja: for example, if a SIGPOLL signal handler does print("hello"). with your change, if you send quickly SIGPOLL twice, a signal can be lost | 20:28 |
| harlowja | np, let's go with yours for now | 20:28 |
| haypo | harlowja: signal handling is one of the most difficult part of UNIX :-p | 20:28 |
| haypo | harlowja: i spent two years on fixing issues related to signals in python. each platform behaves differently and there are various kinds of funny race conditions | 20:29 |
| harlowja | sux | 20:29 |
| harlowja | sounds horrible, lol | 20:29 |
| haypo | harlowja: for example, on FreeBSD, any thread can be called to handle a signal | 20:29 |
| haypo | harlowja: on Linux, it's always the same thread | 20:29 |
| haypo | harlowja: on Windows, you don't really have signals. just something emulated :) | 20:30 |
| harlowja | weird, ha | 20:30 |
| haypo | harlowja: openbsd < 5.2 didn't have a real implementation of threads, so signals+threads was simply a mess | 20:30 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:30 |
| haypo | harlowja: (threars were implemented in user space with funny hacks, like transparent non-blocking I/O) | 20:30 |
| harlowja | eventlet++ | 20:30 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:30 |
| haypo | harlowja: for python, i wrote faulthandler: a C function dumping the Python traceback on a signal. i learnt the hard way how to write async-signal-safe C code. it's just crazy. no heap memory. no printf. nothing :) | 20:31 |
| haypo | it's useful to get a traceback on a crash (SIGSEGV, SIGFPE: division by zero) | 20:32 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:32 |
| harlowja | ya | 20:32 |
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| harlowja | sounds like create a static buffer, and try to use that buffer to dump things into | 20:32 |
| harlowja | avoid all printf or i/o | 20:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Greg Hill proposed openstack/taskflow: Make conductor.stop stop the running engine gracefully https://review.openstack.org/270319 | 20:33 |
| haypo | harlowja: well, i reimplemented my own very tiny printf :) | 20:35 |
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| fhermeni | hello | 20:38 |
| harlowja_ | yo | 20:39 |
| fhermeni | hi harlowja_ | 20:43 |
| harlowja_ | yo yo | 20:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Avoid process based executor task proxying-back ANY event https://review.openstack.org/272326 | 20:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/oslo.service: Fix race condition on handling signals https://review.openstack.org/272718 | 20:44 |
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| harlowja | ok, back to normal name, lol | 20:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Fix process based executor task proxying-back events https://review.openstack.org/272326 | 20:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/tooz: Add Consul Driver https://review.openstack.org/245362 | 20:55 |
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| fhermeni | harlowja: It seems to me our proposal is stalling since a few weeks now :/ Don’t really know what to do | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Greg Hill proposed openstack/taskflow: Make sure exc_args can be serialized via JSON https://review.openstack.org/272748 | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Greg Hill proposed openstack/taskflow: Make conductor.stop stop the running engine gracefully https://review.openstack.org/270319 | 21:57 |
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| harlowja | fhermeni just how it goes, these things take time :) | 22:20 |
| harlowja | especially around dec<->jan, cross project things are hard | 22:21 |
| harlowja | and this one is imho even harder than my previous one that i worked on | 22:21 |
| harlowja | in josh hardness level | 22:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/tooz: Add lock breaking https://review.openstack.org/266015 | 22:40 |
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| dims | harlowja : let's get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261677/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272152/ please, we should try to get a oslo.messaging release out this week | 22:57 |
| harlowja | k | 22:58 |
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| harlowja | lgtm | 22:59 |
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| dims | thanks harlowja | 23:03 |
| harlowja | np | 23:03 |
| dims | i'll ask dukhlov or ozamiatin to file a openstack/releases request tomorrow | 23:03 |
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