Friday, 2016-03-18

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harlowja_at_homedims, thx for being a great ptl, i hope i can be as good as u :)00:09
harlowja_at_homewe will tear down these walls00:09
dimsharlowja_at_home : congrats! :) thanks for the compliment00:09
harlowja_at_homehmmm, that might of been regan00:09
harlowja_at_homelol00:09
harlowja_at_home:)00:10
harlowja_at_homestanding on shoulders of giants i guess is more appropriate00:10
harlowja_at_homeif your shoulders start to hurt let me know, ha00:10
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harlowja_at_homealright, time to get to work folks00:14
harlowja_at_homeha00:14
harlowja_at_homeparty time is over00:14
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openstackgerritBrian Stajkowski proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add Suggested Option Add ability to tag option as part of a suggested configuration.  Setting option to suggested=true will allow generator, if enabled, to output configuration files with uncommented opinionated configuration options and values.  This wil  https://review.openstack.org/29438704:40
openstackgerritBrian Stajkowski proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add Suggested Option  https://review.openstack.org/29438704:44
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.config: Disallow config option name as same as attribute of ConfigOpts  https://review.openstack.org/28975205:39
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Avoid log warning when closing is underway (on purpose)  https://review.openstack.org/29439905:50
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Start adding some basic ovo examples (with an initial basic one)  https://review.openstack.org/29441306:24
harlowja_at_homedansmith, ^ if u get some time06:24
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Start adding some basic ovo examples (with an initial basic one)  https://review.openstack.org/29441306:25
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openstackgerritLi Yingjun proposed openstack/pycadf: Remove invalid character from neutron_api_audit_map.conf  https://review.openstack.org/29445508:32
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fhermenihi there08:49
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Always set all socket timeouts  https://review.openstack.org/29407409:26
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Correct the indentation in the classifiers example  https://review.openstack.org/29450010:40
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/osprofiler: Clean thread locan profiler object after usage  https://review.openstack.org/29451511:07
openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/osprofiler: Add hepler to trace sessions inside _TransactionContextManager  https://review.openstack.org/29451611:07
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Always set all socket timeouts  https://review.openstack.org/29407411:27
openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/osprofiler: Clean thread local profiler object after usage  https://review.openstack.org/29451511:32
openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/osprofiler: Add hepler to trace sessions inside _TransactionContextManager  https://review.openstack.org/29451611:32
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/osprofiler: Add hepler to trace sessions inside _TransactionContextManager  https://review.openstack.org/29451611:39
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/oslo.db: Add posibility to trace _TransactionContext resource  https://review.openstack.org/29453311:43
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openstackgerritOleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Refactoring consumer side  https://review.openstack.org/28304913:21
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openstackgerritOleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Refactoring consumer side  https://review.openstack.org/28304913:24
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/tooz: coordination: expose a heartbeat loop methods  https://review.openstack.org/29389413:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.concurrency: Add a few usage examples for lockutils  https://review.openstack.org/29430613:50
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openstackgerritOleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Reduce number of connections  https://review.openstack.org/28709413:56
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/oslo.db: Let enginefacade._TransactionContextManager look for context  https://review.openstack.org/29428314:02
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rbradforharlowja_at_home, pre congrats on your PTL success14:34
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openstackgerritIan Cordasco proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Include wsgi_scripts in generated wheels  https://review.openstack.org/28027014:40
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sigmavirus24andymaier: could you disable your IRC client sending messages to the channel when you leave and return?14:53
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harlowja_at_homerbradfor, thx!15:07
harlowja_at_home6months of fun begins soon, lol15:08
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rbradforharlowja_at_home, well I think your goals for Newton are the right approach15:15
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harlowja_at_homerbradfor, thx15:16
harlowja_at_homemy general feeling has always been that, even though oslo doesn't get the attention it always could have, it actually should imho, because there are quite a few smart (well-known) generalist people here and i think we can actually lead alot of projects by using that talent correctly, and those goals are sort of inline with that thinking a little15:18
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harlowja_at_homeanyways, don't want to ramble to much, lol15:19
gordcharlowja_at_home: ++ considering most (every)thing depends on oslo.messaging15:19
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gordcenjoy your next hectic six months15:19
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harlowja_at_home:-P15:20
mfranc213_hello.  i would like to create IntegerEnum and StringEnum subclasses off of (a new) Enum(FieldType) class in ./oslo_versionedobjects/fields.py15:20
mfranc213_this is to address a problem recently uncovered whereby integers are not legitimate values for the current Enum class, which is designed for strings, specifically15:20
mfranc213_do people think this is a good idea?15:20
rbradforAs noted perhaps the goal is to build a plan of advocacy across 6 months. I'd propose an approach of talking one library at a time, first internally ensuring docs and examples are in place. Second reviewing all projects that use libraries, third engaging with them and other projects not using libaries actively, e.g. ML, attending their meetings, listening for suggestions/improvements, seeking also contributions.15:20
harlowja_at_homerbradfor, right15:21
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harlowja_at_homei just started a few example last night, lol15:21
harlowja_at_homehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/294413/15:21
patchbotharlowja_at_home: patch 294413 - oslo.versionedobjects - Start adding some basic ovo examples (with an init...15:21
harlowja_at_home;)15:21
harlowja_at_homethat library needs some (and my own inexperience with it, will as i mess around with it == makes examples, lol)15:22
rbradforwe should talk more about "examples" and how to describe them effectively in docs. I know I did that for several projects, creating working examples in docs/source/examples referenced in docs.openstack.org.  It would be good to define a standard.15:22
* rbradfor looking at what you proposed.15:22
harlowja_at_homerbradfor, i'd also like to figure out how to get people more excited by said advocacy as well, oslo blog that i think we were all going to have once15:23
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harlowja_at_homeidk what happened to that, maybe dims remembers15:23
rbradforok, exactly the same, that's good.15:23
rbradforI was a significant blogger in my past life, I've let that slip.  I'm very happy to use Oslo as an excuse to blog personally.15:24
harlowja_at_homesaid review also uses the new hotness 'iot' so that will make it 10x cooler, lol15:24
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rbradforwe should have some means to see these aggregated at planet.openstack.org and published, perhaps some official blog.15:24
harlowja_at_homeyup, there was chatter about an oslo blog, i'd like to make that happen15:24
dimsrbradfor : harlowja_at_home : we can do personal blog and add it to planet http://planet.openstack.org/15:24
harlowja_at_homeya, that's an option15:25
harlowja_at_homebe nice to have a place that isn't personal, but say could be used by a projects members15:25
rbradforI admit I used to read the planet regularly, not looked at it for months.15:25
dimsor talk to ttx/thingee to get access to http://www.openstack.org/blog/15:25
harlowja_at_homedims, def15:25
harlowja_at_homehttp://www.openstack.org/blog/oslo or something would be nice15:26
harlowja_at_home(each project could have a blog 'space')15:26
rbradforI'd suggest a more passive approach.  If we have personal blogs, and we focus on getting an Olso blog at week, we ask the foundation to include this in the superuser blog, e.g. a regular section.  This is enabling them to promote.15:27
thingeeyou can have an oslo blog that is aggregated on planet.openstack.org ... that's it's purpose.15:28
rbradforhopefully other projects may catch on and it develops into something bigger, such as under /blog/oslo etc15:28
harlowja_at_homethingee, oh hi!15:28
harlowja_at_homei know u15:28
harlowja_at_homelol15:28
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rbradforSo we need a category http://www.openstack.org/blog/category/oslo/15:28
harlowja_at_home404!15:29
harlowja_at_homelol15:29
harlowja_at_home'Maybe go home or try one of these instead. '15:29
harlowja_at_homei am at home15:29
harlowja_at_homelol15:29
thingeerbradfor: What's wrong with using planet.openstack.org?15:29
rbradforthingee, nothing, that's what I proposed initially.15:29
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harlowja_at_homeplanet is mostly for personal blogs right, project blogs could be non-planet, that's my only thinking about not planet15:30
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harlowja_at_homemaybe that's not true, in that case, nm, lol15:30
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thingeeharlowja_at_home: from the about...15:33
thingee"Planet OpenStack is a collection of thoughts from the developers and other key players of the OpenStack projects. If you are working on OpenStack technology you should add your OpenStack blog."15:33
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harlowja_at_homethingee, right, just i was thinking of a somewhat different idea, a blog that say any oslo-core/member would be able to just go and add things to, using say the existing knowledge of who that group is (its info is in review.openstack.org) and the existing launchpad integration, and then anyone from that group can just write things, without having to setup something like it outside of openstack15:35
harlowja_at_homeit could post to planet.openstack.org, that'd be fine to15:36
harlowja_at_homejust the setup of said blog and all that wouldn't be by some 3rd party (me or others)15:36
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rbradforharlowja_at_home, if we wanted to we could create an oslo blog at any free site. I feel that most contributors actually already have a personal blog.  What would be the overall benefit? A common location.15:38
harlowja_at_homeya, that15:38
harlowja_at_homecommon location, common auth, as  (oslo) group membership changes, its automatically reflected15:38
harlowja_at_homethose kind of things15:39
rbradforwould the blog benefit then from say, adding details of releases (in addition to the ML).  Would it cause too much work, would people read it instead of/in conjunction with.  By having a blog post you could expand on a new feature in a release, and it's impact/benefit to projects.15:40
harlowja_at_homeya, that kind of thing, as well as posting kittie cat pictures (jk)15:41
harlowja_at_homeor pictures of a oslo-moose that bnemec has15:42
harlowja_at_homelol15:42
bnemec:-)15:42
bnemechttp://blog.nemebean.com/tags/oslo15:43
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harlowja_at_homelol15:43
rbradforno kittie picture please. We need our own mascot.15:43
thingeerbradfor: has it been expressed in the past that people can't keep up with oslo releases on the ML?15:43
thingeerbradfor: there's already a mascot15:44
rbradforthingee, the moose?15:44
thingeeit's on the sticker, so yea15:45
thingeebetter than cinder's which is just a cinder block15:45
rbradfornot aware of the sticker?15:45
harlowja_at_homewe need more stickers15:45
thingeeyeah I dunno, dhellmann was handing them out in vancouver I believe15:45
* rbradfor looking for image of sticker15:45
harlowja_at_homedhellmann, can i get the ability to print those from u15:45
dimsrbradfor we have svg(s)15:46
harlowja_at_home(if u still have a way to)15:46
dimsin gerrit15:46
dimsoslo//oslo-incubator/doc/source/_images/oslo-moose-black-and-white.svg15:46
dimsoslo//oslo-incubator/doc/source/_images/oslo-moose-color.svg15:46
dimsoslo//oslo-incubator/doc/source/_images/oslo-moose-grey.svg15:46
rbradforso, the means for an Oslo party, we need http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=moose+ears15:46
rbradforI should also point out that when skiing I wear a moose on my helmet, perhaps I was foreordained to be in Oslo.15:47
harlowja_at_home:)15:47
thingeeI can just imagine dims with an unamused look wearing those.15:47
harlowja_at_homenot one of those mohawk folks rbradfor15:47
harlowja_at_home*fake mohawk things on helmets15:47
thingeeugh I strongly dislike those.15:48
harlowja_at_home:)15:48
rbradforharlowja_at_home, actually a a wig out party a few years back I did wear a purple mohawk.15:48
thingeewe had a wig party in tokyo, because wigs were cheap there.15:49
harlowja_at_homelol15:49
rbradforhttps://goo.gl/photos/VA6fbUZQNqARmeeQA  need to dig up a photo of me on the mountain with ears flapping.15:49
harlowja_at_homei'm pretty sure thingee has some photos somewhere of me in a picacho outfit, lol15:50
harlowja_at_homefor blackmail!15:50
harlowja_at_homelol15:50
thingeeharlowja_at_home: https://twitter.com/Thingee/status/65932594374015385615:51
harlowja_at_homelol15:51
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rbradforharlowja_at_home, added a on skies pic to album15:52
harlowja_at_home??15:52
harlowja_at_homeoh15:52
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* harlowja_at_home sees the album now, lol15:52
harlowja_at_homelol15:52
harlowja_at_homewhen u go to park city in 2015, i was there last year (or was it the year before) to15:53
harlowja_at_homegood ole park city15:53
rbradforit does flap going down a mountain, need a video one day!15:53
rbradforlast year, first time there, it was great, was at ski in/ski out.15:53
* harlowja_at_home saw 2 lamborginis in the winter when i was there, lol15:53
harlowja_at_home*lamborghini's15:54
rbradforI was told, did you see the moose, apparently they were around on the mountain. I've never actually seen a moose yet15:54
harlowja_at_homewoah15:54
harlowja_at_homei've seen one on tv, lol15:55
harlowja_at_homeand i did learn on a recent show that they pick up so many ticks that they can be killed by ticks15:55
harlowja_at_homeand/or lose so much blood via ticks, that they will become anemic and ... (get killed by something else)15:56
harlowja_at_homewhich was weird/crazy in my mind15:56
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harlowja_at_homesomething like thousands of ticks, which freaks me out a little, lol15:58
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rbradforsince I've created an OpenStack, Python and HPE oneies for the baby, time now to do a Moose. Is there any official Oslo font?16:10
harlowja_at_homehmmm, not afaik16:11
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rbradforneed to see what's on the sticker, was it just a moose, or did it have writing also.16:12
rbradforhappy to make them up, I have a batch of openstack dummies I made.16:13
harlowja_at_homerbradfor,  https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/doc/source/_images/oslo-moose-color.svg16:14
harlowja_at_homedon't think there is any font/text there though16:14
rbradforharlowja_at_home, yep, I got those.16:14
harlowja_at_homebb16:14
harlowja_at_homepretty sure the stickers were text-free16:14
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Start adding some basic ovo examples (with an initial basic one)  https://review.openstack.org/29441316:35
harlowja_at_homedhellmann, when u get around, can u let me know which sticker site u used to print those previously, i'll make a bunch for austin16:35
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dims_harlowja_at_home : https://www.moo.com/16:36
harlowja_at_homethx16:36
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harlowja_at_homewas expected a cow site16:36
harlowja_at_homelol16:36
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Start adding some basic ovo examples (with an initial basic one)  https://review.openstack.org/29441316:50
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Add a secondary iot light bulb example (with remoting)  https://review.openstack.org/29475518:38
openstackgerritIan Cordasco proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Include wsgi_scripts in generated wheels  https://review.openstack.org/28027018:39
* sigmavirus24 is excited that ^ might be the last revision (assuming no review feedback) on that patch18:42
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dhellmannharlowja_at_home : I used moo cards, I think, let me look19:36
dhellmannharlowja_at_home : yeah, that was it19:37
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harlowja_at_homedhellmann, thx20:17
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lasciidims_: harlowja_at_home I proposed a policy framework change to Nova which I would like to eventually move to olso.policy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29015520:52
lasciiI'm interested in thoughts on that, but I also don't know how to propose something like that to oslo. Is it a similar specs process to other projects?20:52
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dims_bknudson : ^^20:53
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dims_lascii : yes, we have a specs process (oslo-specs)20:54
lasciidims_: okay, great20:54
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lasciiit's easier to hammer out details in the context of Nova, but I definitely want to talk about it in oslo early on20:55
dims_lascii : oslo.policy is a strong collaboration with keystone cores, so we'll need to make sure both parties are involved :)20:55
dims_stevemar : ^^20:55
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lasciidims_: sounds good. thanks20:56
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dims_lascii : let's throw in a session in the etherpad too https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-oslo-summit-planning20:57
lasciiI think the commit message summarizes the goals well. I have no strong feelings on an implementation at this point20:57
lasciidims_: can do20:58
dims_ack lascii. star-ring it now20:58
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harlowja_at_homealaski, cool, will check that spec out23:41
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