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| szaher | guys I am getting an error in the unit test cases in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319182/ however when I run the tests on my workstation it's Ok. The error is "oslo_config.cfg.ConfigFilesNotFoundError: Failed to find some config files: policy.json" I don't know what to do | 13:26 |
| patchbot | szaher: patch 319182 - freezer - Freezer metadata part2 | 13:26 |
| szaher | anyone can help with this ? | 13:27 |
| szaher | sorry wrong patch plz use this one instead https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335274/ | 13:27 |
| patchbot | szaher: patch 335274 - freezer-api - Implemented oslo.policy | 13:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/tooz: file: move _load_and_validate to a method https://review.openstack.org/347842 | 13:44 |
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| kgiusti | harlowja: howdy - I'd like to +2/+1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340522/10 but you had a number of comments (which appear to be resolved) | 14:31 |
| patchbot | kgiusti: patch 340522 - oslo.messaging - Introduce TTL for idle connections | 14:31 |
| kgiusti | harlowja: you wanna take another look? | 14:31 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja, rbradfor : the glance team needs this fix to be able to use their latest glance-store release ^^ | 15:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/346766 | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Extend specs matcher to support ">" and "<" https://review.openstack.org/347931 | 16:11 |
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| stajkowski | hey all! looking for some reviews here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304355 | 16:34 |
| patchbot | stajkowski: patch 304355 - oslo.config - Advanced Option | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.rootwrap: always allow privsep-helper as a command https://review.openstack.org/344450 | 16:35 |
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| stajkowski | hey harlowja bnemec dhellmann bknudson, looking for reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304355 | 17:14 |
| patchbot | stajkowski: patch 304355 - oslo.config - Advanced Option | 17:14 |
| openstackgerrit | boden proposed openstack/oslo.utils: WIP: Implement base retryutils https://review.openstack.org/321867 | 17:14 |
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| harlowja | !check_periodics nova | 17:25 |
| openstack | harlowja: Error: "check_periodics" is not a valid command. | 17:25 |
| harlowja | damn, where the bot go | 17:26 |
| harlowja | lol | 17:26 |
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| harlowja | !check_periodics nova | 17:26 |
| oslobot | Project Status Last failed Last failed url Discarded | 17:26 |
| openstack | harlowja: Error: "check_periodics" is not a valid command. | 17:26 |
| oslobot | Nova (2.7) 8 failures Sunday Jul, 24, 2016 at 6:07:08 UTC http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-nova-py27-with-oslo-master/ff4a16f 2 | 17:26 |
| oslobot | Nova (3.4) 10 failures Sunday Jul, 24, 2016 at 6:05:20 UTC http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-nova-py34-with-oslo-master/99377fb 0 | 17:26 |
| harlowja | dhellmann ^ | 17:27 |
| harlowja | for example | 17:27 |
| harlowja | mr.bot is @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343857/ | 17:27 |
| patchbot | harlowja: patch 343857 - oslo.tools - Add oslo admin-assistant bot | 17:27 |
| harlowja | it'd be nice to unify said bot to be <one bot> in openstack | 17:27 |
| harlowja | vs like 3+ (patchbot, openstack meeting bot, openstackgerrit bot ... oslobot...) | 17:28 |
| harlowja | maybe a larger goal :-P | 17:28 |
| harlowja | one bot entrypoint to <openstack> that projects can add things to would be nice | 17:28 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'd have to think about that. what is this output it's showing? | 17:28 |
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| dhellmann | that's a list of jobs that ran and the logs? | 17:29 |
| dhellmann | harlowja, boden : for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321867 it seems to me we should not be relying on "retrying" at all if it's not maintained. Should we fork it? | 17:30 |
| patchbot | dhellmann: patch 321867 - oslo.utils - WIP: Implement base retryutils | 17:30 |
| dhellmann | harlowja : is there any documentation about these periodic jobs? some of the redhat packaging folks are interested in this stuff and I'd like to give them a reference. | 17:31 |
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| boden | dhellmann: unfortunately I’d opt for yes, not seeing any way to get function in right now. will let harlowja and jd weigh in | 17:33 |
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| dhellmann | boden : do you have any idea how much of that lib we actually use? it'd be simplest to fork the whole thing, but I don't know how big it is or if we have anyone who wants to maintain a fork | 17:34 |
| boden | dhellmann: last I checked we used it very little, but let me check again | 17:35 |
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| dhellmann | boden : I also wonder about alternative libs? (sorry, I'm sure this was all hashed out already, so I apologize for dredging it all back up) | 17:36 |
| boden | dhellmann: I’m not aware of any investigation into alt libs yet, but agree we should look-see | 17:37 |
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| dhellmann | either way, I'd rather see a non-oslo lib with these features instead of hiding them in oslo.utils | 17:37 |
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| boden | dhellmann: ok so I lied, retrying is used a bit http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=import%20retrying&i=nope&files=.*.py&repos= | 17:39 |
| dhellmann | yeah, so a fork is probably going to be easier to port to than a new lib | 17:40 |
| dhellmann | boden : are you interested in maintaining a fork of retrying? :-) | 17:40 |
| dhellmann | either outside of openstack infrastructure, or inside. we could even consider oslo adoption, I suppose. | 17:40 |
| boden | dhellmann: I think the answer is yes, but not sure what I’m getting myself into :) | 17:41 |
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| dhellmann | depending on how much the lib changes, maybe not a lot | 17:42 |
| dhellmann | the goal is basically making sure there's someone who understands the code and can deal with bugs | 17:42 |
| dhellmann | harlowja : thoughts? ^^ | 17:42 |
| boden | dhellmann: I can try to reach out to the retrying author 1 more time and see if I can get a response | 17:42 |
| dhellmann | boden : that's a good idea. you could explicitly mention that we're considering that we may need to fork it to ensure we have a maintained lib. we'd obviously have to rename the lib if we do that, but we'd keep all of the history and make it clear that it's a fork (we could just call it retrying2 or something obvious like that) | 17:43 |
| boden | dhellmann: FYI we had actually proposed to the retrying author that we (I offered to do the work myself) do a major refactor of retrying. I think we all agreed its current impl is less than optimal | 17:44 |
| boden | dehllmann: I will reach out once more and follow up in a week or 2 if I hear nothing | 17:44 |
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| dhellmann | boden : ok, that sounds good | 17:45 |
| boden | dhellmann: thanks for your time! | 17:45 |
| dhellmann | and talk with harlowja and the rest of the team about adoption before doing anything in case that's acceptable to the team | 17:46 |
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| dhellmann | boden : how did you try to contact the author? | 17:46 |
| boden | dhellmann: ack.. I have been CCing hardlowja and jd on the notes to the retrying author | 17:46 |
| harlowja | dhellmann sorry, on a meeting with some folks with sputnik13 and a few others | 17:46 |
| boden | dehellmann: email + mention on PRs | 17:46 |
| harlowja | will read over in a few :-P | 17:46 |
| dhellmann | harlowja : np, check the scrollback when you have time, I think we've reached a "next step" decision so I'm asking about what to do after that | 17:47 |
| dhellmann | boden : ok, seems reasonable. | 17:47 |
| harlowja | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Periodic are the jobs | 17:47 |
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| harlowja | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dims-periodic-jobs and dims_ have more history | 17:47 |
| dhellmann | harlowja : thanks, I'll pass those along | 17:48 |
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| harlowja | sooo dhellmann boden jd__ a fork of retrying | 18:04 |
| harlowja | hmmmmm | 18:04 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 18:04 |
| harlowja | i mean, sure, technically i've rewrote enough of that lib to know its not really that hard to make a fork | 18:04 |
| dhellmann | not optimal | 18:04 |
| harlowja | but not optimial to say the least :-P | 18:04 |
| dhellmann | if we can't get the author to respond to us, though, I don't think we want it as a dependency even if we had no specific changes in mind | 18:05 |
| harlowja | agreed | 18:05 |
| dhellmann | one of the things I'm going to be pressing the new requirements team to do is identify unmaintained dependencies we have | 18:05 |
| harlowja | and i think boden is referring to https://github.com/rholder/retrying/pull/55 | 18:05 |
| harlowja | (and/or more followups to that) | 18:05 |
| harlowja | whats the definition of unmaintained btw? | 18:05 |
| harlowja | this guy more or less just seems to be <real slow> | 18:05 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:05 |
| harlowja | but not <dead/non-existent> | 18:06 |
| dhellmann | I haven't picked a number, but 18 months without a release seems long and it sounds like there's no real response to our approaches? although maybe I have a skewed impression of that? | 18:06 |
| boden | harlowja: agreed I got a response about 2 months ago, but nothing since | 18:06 |
| harlowja | boden right, in the real slow category, ha | 18:06 |
| boden | lol | 18:07 |
| dhellmann | we also have cmd2 in a similar state, fwiw | 18:07 |
| dhellmann | I have commit access there, but not to tag releases, iirc | 18:07 |
| boden | I’m just really impatient ;) | 18:07 |
| harlowja | :-P | 18:07 |
| harlowja | boden i get that, i used to be more impatient then i joined openstack | 18:07 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:07 |
| harlowja | then i calmed down | 18:07 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:07 |
| harlowja | (maybe for the worse, ha) | 18:07 |
| dhellmann | maybe the maintainer would like help? | 18:08 |
| harlowja | unsure, i think (or maybe i'm imagining it) that jd__ asked that some time ago, or maybe that was boden | 18:09 |
| boden | dehellmann: sorry, help what? | 18:09 |
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| harlowja | i think we have offered to help (https://github.com/rholder/retrying/pull/55 ) | 18:10 |
| harlowja | in that boden or i or (whoever) will do the actual work | 18:11 |
| boden | harlowja: yes I offered to do the work | 18:11 |
| harlowja | its an interesting dillemia for sure | 18:11 |
| harlowja | do we accept its <real slow> or | 18:11 |
| harlowja | or not, ha | 18:11 |
| boden | harlowja: if that’s a question to me about if I can chill-out; then sure… I’ll chill man ;) | 18:14 |
| harlowja | nah | 18:14 |
| harlowja | its not that question | 18:14 |
| harlowja | i'd like the discussion here to move quicker also | 18:14 |
| harlowja | its a little <PITA> | 18:15 |
| harlowja | is rholder anywhere on IRC? | 18:15 |
| boden | harlowja: not sure, I haven’t stalked that far yet | 18:15 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:15 |
| harlowja | u don't know where he lives yet? | 18:15 |
| harlowja | wtf | 18:15 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:15 |
| boden | I was just pulling his credit score actually ;) | 18:15 |
| harlowja | good good | 18:17 |
| harlowja | ssn to? | 18:17 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:17 |
| jd__ | harlowja: yeah we should pressure him more of a fork I'd say | 18:18 |
| dhellmann | boden : yeah, if we think forking is drastic we could ask for some commit permissions on the existing repo and publishing permissions on pypi to help manage the lib | 18:19 |
| dhellmann | the thing is to make it clear that we would rather work with him than fork, but either way his name will stay attached to his existing work | 18:20 |
| harlowja | who wants to ask :-P | 18:20 |
| boden | ok: I’m sending the author a friendly email now… we can give it a bit and see if he’s still responding | 18:20 |
| dhellmann | sounds good | 18:20 |
| jd__ | boden: Cc us? | 18:20 |
| boden | jd__ yes, but if you guys have a standing relation with the author (I think you already have some perms) is it better for you to ask? | 18:21 |
| jd__ | boden: yeah I can ask, I already helped a bit to review PRs etc | 18:21 |
| harlowja | i have prob less relation than jd__ does | 18:21 |
| harlowja | so i volunteer jd | 18:21 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:21 |
| jd__ | and I think I already sent a mail asking for a release | 18:21 |
| jd__ | so I can leverage that :-> | 18:21 |
| jd__ | boden: sounds good? | 18:23 |
| dhellmann | cool | 18:23 |
| boden | jd__ yes thanks! | 18:23 |
| jd__ | mail sent boden and harlowja , I cc'ed you guys | 18:29 |
| harlowja | cools | 18:29 |
| jd__ | if we got no reply in the next 10 days, I'd be happy to help maintaining a fork on GitHub FWIW | 18:29 |
| jd__ | let's hope that it won't be needed :) | 18:30 |
| harlowja | ya | 18:30 |
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| harlowja | https://review.openstack.org/347996 rbradfor jamielennox|away | 18:46 |
| harlowja | that should avoid the need for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344509/ | 18:46 |
| patchbot | harlowja: patch 344509 - requirements - Revert "Blacklist oslo.context 2.6.0" | 18:46 |
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| harlowja | i also get confused, why does the patchbot only sometimes find the review links | 18:48 |
| harlowja | like it should have found https://review.openstack.org/347996 | 18:48 |
| harlowja | weird | 18:48 |
| harlowja | some regex that its using not the best at finding "https://review.openstack.org/(/d+)" | 18:49 |
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| notmyname | harlowja: yeah, I thought I fixed that | 19:21 |
| notmyname | oh, it does require the /#/c/ in the URL | 19:21 |
| notmyname | which I haven't removed from teh regex because some bots are printing out URLs like that (so I didn't want bots talking to each other) | 19:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Introduce TTL for idle connections https://review.openstack.org/340522 | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/346766 | 20:04 |
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| sdague | harlowja / dims_ - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347983/ the rootwrap 5.0.0 release review is up what is the next step in getting that in motion? | 20:08 |
| patchbot | sdague: patch 347983 - releases - release oslo.rootwrap 5.0.0 | 20:08 |
| dims_ | sdague : am good with it. looks like just 2 reviews in there. lets wait for Josh | 20:11 |
| sdague | yep, totally cool. I just haven't done this path before | 20:11 |
| sdague | so figured I'd ask | 20:11 |
| dims_ | :) | 20:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Bayer proposed openstack/oslo.db: Rework facade test fixtures to integrate w/ enginefacade https://review.openstack.org/345601 | 20:21 |
| sdague | dhellmann: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347983 - I added to the review as well, but the short of it is we're changing a fundamental assumption in rootwrap with the 5.0.0 release, as there is a command which will be whitelisted and runnable even if not in a config | 20:38 |
| patchbot | sdague: patch 347983 - releases - release oslo.rootwrap 5.0.0 | 20:38 |
| sdague | and that seemed like a major enough change in expected behavior to signal with a major release | 20:38 |
| sdague | it's not strictly incompatible, but it is different enough | 20:38 |
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| dhellmann | sdague : ok. I'm not sure semver counts that as a major version bump, let me look at those rules again | 20:45 |
| dhellmann | sdague : yeah, the rules we've been following would still count this as a minor version bump, because it's backwards-compatible http://docs.openstack.org/developer/pbr/semver.html#semantic-versioning-specification-semver | 20:47 |
| dhellmann | numbers 7 & 8 apply | 20:48 |
| sdague | dhellmann: it was really strongly prefered by ttx and gus that this was a definitive major bump | 20:48 |
| dhellmann | hmm | 20:48 |
| dhellmann | did we have any "always on" rules before? | 20:49 |
| sdague | no | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | and there's no way to turn this rule off? | 20:49 |
| sdague | correct | 20:49 |
| sdague | that is the major behavior change | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | ok. I don't want us just to throw major version number changes because we think we've added big features, but this sounds like a significant change that can't be disabled to return to the previous behavior | 20:51 |
| sdague | right | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | ok, I can go along with that then. feels like a grey area. | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | sdague : you should get harlowja to sign off on the release, and then we can decide whether it's wise to release it on a thursday or wait for monday | 20:52 |
| sdague | it does, but given that this is a security related component, it felt like erring on the side of caution | 20:52 |
| sdague | was a good call | 20:52 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that's reasonable | 20:52 |
| dhellmann | thanks for talking through it with me | 20:52 |
| sdague | yep, no problem | 20:52 |
| harlowja | ya, so monday vs thursday, i'd be more ok with monday | 20:52 |
| sdague | it would be great if we could get it in the thursday slot | 20:52 |
| harlowja | k | 20:52 |
| sdague | because we have this whole stack of work blocked on this | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | either is fine, thursday is an official lib release day | 20:53 |
| sdague | os-brick, os-vif, patches to cinder / neutron / nova | 20:53 |
| harlowja | k | 20:53 |
| sdague | that we want to try to get in for newton | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | if folks are around to deal with issues we can do it early tomorrow | 20:53 |
| harlowja | right, if ^ happens, then i'm fine | 20:53 |
| sdague | yep, I can be around for it | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | cool | 20:53 |
| sdague | I've been hitting the terminal by about 7am EST | 20:54 |
| dhellmann | harlowja : that's https://review.openstack.org/347983 waiting for your +1 (unless I missed it) | 20:54 |
| dhellmann | sdague : I'm unlikely to be up that early, but dims_ might be | 20:54 |
| * dhellmann still has travel plague | 20:54 | |
| sdague | oof, bummer | 20:54 |
| dims_ | y, i can cut it first thing AM | 20:54 |
| dims_ | sdague : dhellmann : ^^ | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | it's just a cold, but it comes with extra congestion and coughing | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | dims_ : cool, ty | 20:55 |
| dims_ | ouch dhellmann | 20:55 |
| sdague | yeh, we had a rolling house of sick for about 6 weeks after austin. No fun. | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | I'm back to something like 85%, so improving | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | ugh, yeah | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | this started a few days after coming back from europython in spain, so we're getting all of the "spanish influenza" jokes, too | 20:56 |
| sdague | heh | 20:56 |
| tonyb | harlowja: why'd you abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347608/ ? | 20:57 |
| patchbot | tonyb: patch 347608 - requirements - Unblock oslo.context 2.6.0 (ABANDONED) | 20:57 |
| tonyb | harlowja: I was just about to use it in an email | 20:58 |
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| harlowja | tonyb there was a dupe | 21:03 |
| harlowja | tonyb https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344509/ | 21:04 |
| patchbot | harlowja: patch 344509 - requirements - Revert "Blacklist oslo.context 2.6.0" | 21:04 |
| harlowja | and then i just went with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347996/ | 21:04 |
| patchbot | harlowja: patch 347996 - releases - Release of oslo.context 2.7.0 | 21:04 |
| harlowja | which has a few minor changes anyway | 21:04 |
| tonyb | harlowja: Ah, they'er npt dupes yours was correct jamie's will break things | 21:04 |
| tonyb | harlowja: Yeah I saw that. | 21:04 |
| harlowja | ah | 21:04 |
| harlowja | i can unabandon | 21:05 |
| tonyb | Yours is good because it removes the blacklist but leaves u-c pointing at 2.5.0 | 21:05 |
| harlowja | k | 21:05 |
| tonyb | harlowja: If you wouldn't mind that'd be great. | 21:05 |
| harlowja | restored | 21:05 |
| tonyb | harlowja: Thanks | 21:06 |
| harlowja | np | 21:07 |
| tonyb | Now to test the nova fixes changes .... | 21:07 |
| tonyb | harlowja: I have a long winded email to os-dev just about ready to unblock oslo.context (for now) | 21:08 |
| harlowja | cools | 21:08 |
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