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| dhellmann | stephenfin : I added you to oslo-core a minute or two ago. Welcome to the team! | 14:27 |
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| stephenfin | 🎉🎉🎉 | 14:28 |
| dhellmann | fungi : we had something we thought was blocking a release but no one could remember what. at this point in the cycle we were a bit reluctant to introduce disruption because it's hard to pin that library, so we were going to wait until after the release, iirc (maybe gcb or stephenfin has more detail at this point) | 14:28 |
| fungi | ahh, okay | 14:28 |
| stephenfin | dhellmann, fungi: Sorry, I missed that. I think we're actually good to go | 14:28 |
| dhellmann | oh? | 14:28 |
| stephenfin | I had things backwards. It was reno that was blocked, not pbr | 14:28 |
| dhellmann | ah | 14:29 |
| stephenfin | We needed pbr to lose that hook functionality | 14:29 |
| dhellmann | do we know how to either revert or block a pbr release if there's a problem due to other changes? | 14:29 |
| stephenfin | dhellmann: I assume that's aimed at fungi? My guess would be fix/revert the feature and issue a PATCH release? | 14:30 |
| fungi | yeah, in the past we've done a roll-forward tagging a revert to "roll back" pbr breakage | 14:31 |
| dhellmann | oh, sure, that makes sense | 14:31 |
| fungi | though there's still the "support v_versions" dev ml thread which needs some resolution i think | 14:32 |
| fungi | hrm, the changes discussed in the last post on that thread have merged to pbr | 14:34 |
| fungi | i guess there was just no followup to the ml | 14:34 |
| fungi | i'll reply asking if there's any outstanding issue with it at this point | 14:34 |
| fungi | ahh, right, there's still the hanging question as to how a project can prevent pbr from considering tags without a "v" prefix in version calculations | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | any new features like different version syntax will have to wait for next cycle at this point | 14:37 |
| fungi | right, since that commit got approved i suppose tagging master at this point is not in the cards | 14:41 |
| fungi | that commit meaning 531161 | 14:41 |
| fungi | anyway, i replied on that ml thread | 14:41 |
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| fungi | do you normally have a feature freeze for shared libs to avoid merging changes like that on late in the cycle, or just a release freeze to avoid tagging them after a certain point? | 14:44 |
| dhellmann | oh, if it's approved, that's fine | 14:44 |
| dhellmann | I thought it was a request to implement something new | 14:44 |
| gcb | weekly meeting in 10 minutes | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | gcb : fungi, stephenfin, and I were just discussing a potential pbr release | 14:51 |
| gcb | dhellmann: just read the irc log | 14:51 |
| gcb | about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531161 and email . I don't think we will support version with prefix 'v' in OpenStack | 14:53 |
| gcb | maybe pbr can support that in other projects | 14:53 |
| stephenfin | Yes, if I understood correctly, the author of the patch was dismayed that the generated sdist (I think) was using non-prefixed versions | 14:54 |
| stephenfin | Which makes sense, since we discard the 'vV' prefix | 14:54 |
| stephenfin | tbh though, that's not a bug - that's an additional feature | 14:54 |
| * dhellmann needs to reread the email thread | 14:54 | |
| stephenfin | or an addition to the original feature | 14:54 |
| stephenfin | dhellmann: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126075.html | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I think we can consider any remaining work on that either a bug fix (filenames) or new feature (ignore unprefixed versions) | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | and I'm not sure we want to do the latter, unless it's easy | 14:56 |
| stephenfin | Ditto. That's a problem better addressed by things like Git hooks, IMO | 14:56 |
| stephenfin | "You're not allowed push tags without a 'v' prefix" | 14:56 |
| stephenfin | I'll reply to the email now, actually | 14:57 |
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| gcb | stephenfin: ++ to reply what we will do in OpenStack | 15:00 |
| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 15 15:00:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek,zxy | 15:00 |
| ansmith | gcb, hello | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| kgiusti | kgiusti: o/ | 15:00 |
| gcb | hi ansmith, dhellmann ,kgiusti, stephenfin | 15:01 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 15:01 |
| gcb | #topic welcome stephenfin to oslo team | 15:02 |
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| gcb | stephenfin: congratulation ! | 15:02 |
| kgiusti | stephenfin: huzzah! | 15:02 |
| gcb | hope you will be happy to work within oslo team | 15:03 |
| ansmith | stephenfin, welcome! | 15:03 |
| bnemec | \o/ | 15:03 |
| gcb | hi bnemec | 15:03 |
| bnemec | gcb: Hi | 15:03 |
| gcb | I knew stephenfin when I pushed python 35 patches in Nova, he aslo help presented Oslo Project Update in Sydney Summit | 15:05 |
| gcb | welcome stephenfin again :-) | 15:05 |
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| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:05 |
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| gcb | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo shows failure for cinder, would like to check with jungleboyj later | 15:06 |
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| gcb | #topic Releases | 15:06 |
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| gcb | we are in the last week to release oslo libraries for queens according to https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 15:07 |
| gcb | https://review.openstack.org/533473 for queens | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | I'll review that right after we're done meeting | 15:08 |
| gcb | dhellmann, stephenfin: would you like to do a release for pbr for queens or just wait the early of rocky as we talked before | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | let me look at what else is included... | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | http://paste.openstack.org/show/645149/ | 15:11 |
| fungi | given my features in master are mostly cosmetic (pypi-oriented) i don't consider them urgent | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | a lot of items on the list are doc update, but there are a couple of features that could be disruptive | 15:12 |
| stephenfin | The only potential risks I see there are a260dc3 ("Discover Distribution through the class hierarchy") and 3a6b96c ("Use 'build_reno' setuptools extension if available") | 15:12 |
| stephenfin | imo, anyway | 15:13 |
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| dhellmann | I guess "225e882 2017-12-06 11:01:52 +0000 Put test-requirements into an extra named 'test'" is probably safe, if it's just adding data | 15:13 |
| stephenfin | Indeed. If it's broken, well, no one's using it yet anyway | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | "32c90ba 2017-10-09 10:48:33 +0100 Remove support for command hooks" appears to be a feature removal | 15:14 |
| stephenfin | It is, but no one uses it in OpenStack | 15:14 |
| dhellmann | so a major version bump but we think it's safe | 15:14 |
| gcb | so It seems we'd better to do release for pbr until early Rocky | 15:14 |
| stephenfin | per codesearch.o.o | 15:14 |
| dhellmann | I would feel better waiting, and then more actively releasing next cycle as we make changes | 15:15 |
| stephenfin | Perhaps, yes. The only thing anyone will miss is the reno-in-sdist feature | 15:15 |
| stephenfin | which is no killer feature | 15:15 |
| stephenfin | I vote punt til Rocky, so | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I wanted that in this cycle but it's not critical | 15:15 |
| gcb | +1 for releasing it in Rocky | 15:16 |
| gcb | okay, let's move on | 15:17 |
| gcb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 15:17 |
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| dhellmann | sounds good, I'll set a reminder for myself | 15:17 |
| gcb | dhellmann: thanks | 15:18 |
| gcb | we don't have bugfix patches in review now | 15:18 |
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| gcb | so there is no stuck review for queens | 15:18 |
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| gcb | anyone have review to raise ? | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | Not for queens, but I will have a couple more to fix stable jobs on ocata shortly. | 15:19 |
| gcb | smcginnis: thanks for the work , fee free to add me as reviewer :-) | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | ditto | 15:20 |
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| smcginnis | Thanks, will do. They've been making it through pretty quick, so thanks all for that. | 15:21 |
| gcb | smcginnis: I didn't release pike/ocata if we only have non-functional changes like fix the gate jobs. is that okay? | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | gcb: Yeah, that's fine. I just wanted to get these fixed now so when we actually do have something to get out there it won't be a problem. | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | But no need to do a release for these changes. | 15:22 |
| gcb | yeah, we're in the same page :-) | 15:22 |
| gcb | #topic PTG | 15:22 |
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| gcb | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-rocky | 15:22 |
| gcb | we have some topics | 15:23 |
| gcb | I would like to take the task of enabling mutable configuration, I will add it as one of community goal and would like to discuss that during the PTG | 15:23 |
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| gcb | btw, I got approval of Travel Support Program, so I can attend the Dublin PTG | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | excellent! | 15:24 |
| ansmith | woot! | 15:24 |
| kgiusti | yay! | 15:25 |
| gcb | looking forward to meeting up with all of you, old friends :-) | 15:25 |
| stephenfin | \o/ | 15:26 |
| gcb | so please collect more topics about oslo LOL | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | gcb: do we know which day we are meeting, yet? | 15:28 |
| gcb | dhellmann: will check with ttx tomorrow, I can't attend the meeting in Monday due to I just be selected as individual director , need attend the boarding meeting in Monday | 15:31 |
| gcb | https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=418004UhCDEyLPWgWKsJmXHRnh&from=timeline&isappinstalled=0 | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | congratulations :-) | 15:31 |
| bnemec | Congrats! | 15:31 |
| ansmith | congratulations! | 15:31 |
| stephenfin | Oh, congrats indeed :) | 15:31 |
| gcb | I think my company will let me attend the PTG even I got travel support support :-) | 15:32 |
| kgiusti | hey that's excellent news! | 15:32 |
| stephenfin | #MovingOnUp | 15:32 |
| gcb | s/got/ didn't get | 15:32 |
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| gcb | #topic Open discussion | 15:33 |
| dhellmann | I'm sure ttx will help us schedule around the board meeting so you can participate in both | 15:33 |
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| gcb | dhellmann: agree | 15:33 |
| gcb | for the Rocky, we need new PTL | 15:34 |
| ttx | we'll do our best | 15:34 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I think as long as Oslo is not on Monday we'll be fine. | 15:34 |
| gcb | ttx: thanks | 15:34 |
| dhellmann | so we're looking for volunteers to be PTL? folks, please talk to your managers if you're interested. | 15:35 |
| dhellmann | I'd be happy to talk to anyone if you have any questions, and I'm sure gcb would, too. | 15:35 |
| gcb | dhellmann: yeah, I would like to focus on coding like enable mutable configuration | 15:36 |
| * dhellmann nods | 15:36 | |
| * jungleboyj sneaks in late. | 15:39 | |
| jungleboyj | Sorry we are off today. | 15:39 |
| gcb | welcome to run for the PTL :-) | 15:39 |
| * stephenfin considers jungleboyj mad to be here on his day off | 15:39 | |
| stephenfin | :) | 15:39 |
| bnemec | stephenfin: +1 :-) | 15:40 |
| gcb | jungleboyj: it doesn't matter just need double check with you about http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/cinder/master/legacy-periodic-py35-with-oslo-master/dee2564/ | 15:40 |
| bnemec | Although given the weather here he may have nothing else to do. ;-) | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | gcb : if you haven't already, it would be good for you to announce on the mailing list that you are not running | 15:40 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Somebody said my name though. :-) | 15:40 |
| smcginnis | bnemec: Very true. ;) | 15:41 |
| jungleboyj | bnemec: Yeah. | 15:41 |
| gcb | dhellmann: sure , will send out tomorrow | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | gcb : ok, thanks | 15:41 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Have we seen that failure anywhere else? I haven't. | 15:41 |
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| jungleboyj | gcb: Glad you can make it to the PTG. | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj : that's with unreleased libs so we probably wouldn't see it anywhere else | 15:42 |
| jungleboyj | And congrats on the Board member results. | 15:42 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: I may have seen that one once before, though it's possible it was from this review. | 15:42 |
| gcb | jungleboyj: thanks | 15:43 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, so we will need to go take a look at what is happening there. | 15:43 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: That's using a global, so likely that UT failure was just a race. | 15:45 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. So something we just need to make sure isn't happening consistently. | 15:46 |
| gcb | any other topics someone want to discuss :-) | 15:47 |
| gcb | have a nice day everyone thanks, we will end the meeting in 1 minutes :-) | 15:50 |
| jungleboyj | gcb: Thanks! You have a good one too. | 15:50 |
| crushil | thanks | 15:51 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:51 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 15:51 |
| gcb | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 15 15:52:26 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-01-15-15.00.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-01-15-15.00.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-01-15-15.00.log.html | 15:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack/sphinx-feature-classification master: Initial cookiecutter patch https://review.openstack.org/472260 | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sphinx-feature-classification master: Initial cookiecutter patch https://review.openstack.org/472260 | 18:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/oslo.privsep master: msgpack-python has been renamed to msgpack https://review.openstack.org/533769 | 19:42 |
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| bnemec | dhellmann: What do you think about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514934/ ? It has two +2's over minimally changed patch sets, but it's late in the cycle to be changing deps. | 21:39 |
| dhellmann | we can land it, but I wouldn't release it | 21:40 |
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