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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/551608 | 08:22 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.vmware master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/556425 | 08:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Quan Tian proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Support trailing commas in values of list type https://review.openstack.org/556473 | 10:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: builddoc: Treat '[pbr] autodoc_tree_excludes' as a multi-line opt https://review.openstack.org/552100 | 10:47 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: tests: Change order of parsing https://review.openstack.org/556481 | 10:47 |
stephenfin | fungi, dhellmann: Hopefully this is the last of it https://review.openstack.org/556481 | 10:47 |
stephenfin | MINOR release my hat :grumble grumble: | 10:48 |
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stephenfin | dhellmann: Should I tag this with the bug I created? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555808/ | 12:38 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: update parse test to use reliable comparison https://review.openstack.org/555808 | 12:39 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: builddoc: Treat '[pbr] autodoc_tree_excludes' as a multi-line opt https://review.openstack.org/552100 | 12:40 |
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dhellmann | stephenfin : it looks like you did, so yes :-) | 12:51 |
* stephenfin took the initiative | 12:51 | |
stephenfin | :) | 12:51 |
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dhellmann | kgiusti , beekneemech, gcb : I'm seeing a surprising number of failures in jobs unrelated to the change in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556066/ for oslo.messaging. Are those things you've seen before? | 14:01 |
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kgiusti | dhellmann: hey - the kafka failures are expected (correct ansmith?) | 14:03 |
ansmith | kgiusti, dhellmann: yes, those are expected | 14:04 |
dhellmann | how about those timeouts in the py27 job? | 14:04 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: the telemetry failures are under investigation. but the zmq failures in tox-py27 seem new | 14:04 |
kgiusti | no doug | 14:04 |
dhellmann | ok | 14:05 |
dhellmann | we're dropping zmq, right? | 14:06 |
kgiusti | those are new - I'll need to dig in a bit (tho personally zmq should be removed IMHO) | 14:06 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: I would like to yest | 14:06 |
dhellmann | I forget what we said about the schedule for that. Early or late? | 14:06 |
kgiusti | yes | 14:06 |
dhellmann | early is probably better? | 14:06 |
dhellmann | I'd be happy to just remove the zmq stuff and not worry about debugging them | 14:06 |
bnemec | Did we deprecate it previously? | 14:06 |
kgiusti | I'll reach out on the operator's list today | 14:06 |
kgiusti | bnemec: we haven't taken a public stand. | 14:06 |
kgiusti | I was hoping someone would claim support (and we could remove it from in tree) | 14:07 |
bnemec | FWIW, I haven't heard anyone come out of the shadows asking us to keep it this time. | 14:07 |
kgiusti | Yeah, but I haven't been explicit about ditching it - let me email operators and see if anyone grumbles | 14:07 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: in the meantime just disable the tests +1 | 14:08 |
bnemec | I guess if it's broken we can justify removing it right away. | 14:08 |
kgiusti | bnemec: agreed | 14:08 |
dhellmann | ok, I'll look into that after this errand | 14:08 |
dhellmann | did we announce that change on the ML already? I feel like it showed up in a summary | 14:09 |
bnemec | Yeah, I believe I touched on it in my PTG wrapup. | 14:09 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: bnemec: I fire off a stand alone email in any case, cc'd the dev list | 14:10 |
dhellmann | kgiusti, thanks | 14:10 |
bnemec | +1 | 14:10 |
bnemec | A brief mention in the middle of a wall of text email is definitely not enough notification. :-) | 14:10 |
bnemec | I'll mention it in the meeting today too. | 14:11 |
kgiusti | bnemec: the louder the better IMHO. | 14:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.config master: Support trailing commas in values of list type https://review.openstack.org/556473 | 14:13 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr master: Make docs on env vars a little clearer https://review.openstack.org/554712 | 14:13 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.utils master: Clean old output before new doc builds https://review.openstack.org/555057 | 14:16 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.utils master: Remove sphinx settings from setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/555055 | 14:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware master: pypy is not checked at gate https://review.openstack.org/554976 | 14:37 |
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bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 26 15:00:10 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, raildo | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for rbradfor, redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zxy | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for zzzeek | 15:00 |
kgiusti | o/ | 15:00 |
jungleboyj | o/ | 15:00 |
ansmith | o/ | 15:00 |
gcb | o/ | 15:01 |
e0ne | hi | 15:01 |
bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:02 | |
jungleboyj | Don't think Cinder has anything. | 15:03 |
bnemec | I'm not aware of anything from the Oslo side either. | 15:03 |
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bnemec | We can probably move on then. | 15:04 |
bnemec | #topic Releases for Rocky | 15:04 |
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bnemec | I didn't do the full weekly release last week. Will start that again this week. | 15:04 |
bnemec | I guess oslo.db was released last week to fix the requirements issue. | 15:05 |
bnemec | I'm planning to include oslo.config in the next release set too as the remained of dhellmann's config location changes have merged. | 15:06 |
bnemec | And while we're talking releases, fungi had mentioned last week that pbr hasn't been released in a long time. | 15:06 |
bnemec | I think since last summer. | 15:06 |
bnemec | There was some discussion with stephenfin about how the sphinx changes factor into that. | 15:07 |
stephenfin | bnemec: pbr is good to go as soon as those two fixes land | 15:08 |
gcb | yeah, we didn't release pbr recently ,then we can pick up more features | 15:08 |
fungi | yeah, tat would be awesome | 15:08 |
fungi | and thanks stephenfin for jumping on the fire drill there with sphinx integration | 15:08 |
bnemec | stephenfin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552100 is the last thing then? | 15:08 |
stephenfin | fungi: np :) | 15:09 |
stephenfin | bnemec: Correct | 15:09 |
stephenfin | At least, until Sphinx 1.8 is released, heh | 15:09 |
bnemec | Cool, those will hopefully merge shortly. | 15:09 |
bnemec | Once those are in I will release pbr. | 15:09 |
bnemec | #action bnemec to release pbr after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552100 merges | 15:10 |
stephenfin | Spot on. I've removed stuff so it should be a MAJOR version (4.0?) | 15:10 |
bnemec | I'll have to look at the git history, but that seems likely. | 15:10 |
bnemec | That's all I had for releases. Anything else? | 15:11 |
bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:12 |
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bnemec | I approved the oslo.limit spec and that's been working its way through governance. | 15:13 |
bnemec | I think it merged last week? | 15:13 |
bnemec | If not it should be soon. | 15:13 |
bnemec | I did not update the new library process docs though. :-/ | 15:14 |
bnemec | Will keep that on my todo list. | 15:14 |
gcb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552907/ | 15:14 |
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bnemec | Yeah, I was thinking of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550496/ which has merged. | 15:15 |
bnemec | So we should be good proceed with oslo.limit. | 15:15 |
gcb | yeah, I saw the update in TC report :-) | 15:16 |
bnemec | I still haven't gotten to the config migration spec either. | 15:16 |
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bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520043/ | 15:17 |
bnemec | Don't see namnh so not sure if the testing doc for that got updated. | 15:18 |
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bnemec | And finally, the MultiConfigParser is no more, at least as far as Oslo is concerned. | 15:18 |
bnemec | I have a patch open with networking-cisco to move it there, but they plan to remove their use of it in Rocky anyway so they haven't accepted it yet. | 15:19 |
bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/554617 | 15:19 |
bnemec | That's it for the action items from last week. | 15:20 |
bnemec | #topic Remove zmq driver from oslo.messaging | 15:20 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Remove zmq driver from oslo.messaging (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:20 | |
kgiusti | yep. | 15:21 |
bnemec | We discussed this at the PTG, but because the zmq unit tests are now starting to fail in oslo.messaging we're bumping the priority on this. | 15:21 |
kgiusti | The driver hasn't had a contribution for over a year now. | 15:21 |
bnemec | And is broken as far as we can tell. :-) | 15:22 |
kgiusti | I'm writing an email to the operator's and dev's mailing list about this. | 15:22 |
kgiusti | If anyone is willing to take ownership, please step forward. :) | 15:22 |
kgiusti | but be aware: it clocks in at over 5,000 lines of code | 15:22 |
kgiusti | which is more than double the rabbit driver size | 15:22 |
bnemec | Yeah, I don't anticipate that anyone is in this meeting who cares about it, but this way it will be in the meeting notes in case anyone happens to look through them. | 15:23 |
kgiusti | If anyone comes forward we should still move it out-of-tree | 15:23 |
dhellmann | o/ | 15:23 |
bnemec | I think the TLDR is that we're going to remove the zeromq driver from oslo.messaging and if anyone still needs it they should let us know ASAP. | 15:24 |
kgiusti | bnemec: don't we have to announce it as being deprecated first? | 15:24 |
bnemec | #action Anyone still using the zeromq oslo.messaging driver contact kgiusti or bnemec | 15:24 |
kgiusti | bnemec: this hasn't been done yet to my knowledge | 15:25 |
bnemec | kgiusti: It's broken and we're shutting off the tests. | 15:25 |
bnemec | At least that was my understanding of the discussion this morning. | 15:25 |
kgiusti | bnemec: agreed - we def need to shut off the tests now | 15:25 |
dhellmann | I can do either today (delete or just disable the tests) so let me know which you prefer. | 15:25 |
kgiusti | bnemec: but I thought libraries had a formal feature deprecation process? | 15:26 |
kgiusti | bnemec: not saying that it's a good idea to keep the driver around if it can't pass tests BTW | 15:26 |
bnemec | I'm a little uncomfortable removing something without deprecation, but in this case I'm not sure anyone benefits from having it there. | 15:26 |
dhellmann | if we know it doesn't work, we can't really be breaking anyone's production deployment, right? | 15:26 |
bnemec | I would think not. | 15:27 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: we know it doesn't pass tests, whether there's some restricted use case in the wild is unknown | 15:27 |
dhellmann | I suppose that's true | 15:27 |
dhellmann | ok, so just marking the tests with skips for today then? | 15:27 |
dhellmann | and announcing the impending deletion? | 15:27 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: +1 let's start there. | 15:27 |
bnemec | I'm good with that plan. | 15:27 |
dhellmann | ok | 15:27 |
dhellmann | should I mark them as skips or just delete them? | 15:28 |
dhellmann | the tests that is | 15:28 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: nuke em from orbit | 15:28 |
dhellmann | wfm | 15:28 |
kgiusti | ansmith: ? | 15:28 |
ansmith | +1 | 15:28 |
* bnemec prefers to take off first | 15:28 | |
bnemec | No sense nuking yourself in the process. ;-) | 15:29 |
bnemec | #action dhellmann to delete zeromq tests from oslo.messaging | 15:29 |
kgiusti | #action kgiusti announce on operator's and dev ml | 15:30 |
dhellmann | are there separate zmq test jobs? | 15:30 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: yeah | 15:31 |
dhellmann | ok, I can remove those, too | 15:31 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: well - sorry there are none outside of oslo's if that's what you mean | 15:31 |
kgiusti | ansmith: we'll want to remove devstack support too, I can take that | 15:32 |
dhellmann | kgiusti : I meant any at all, and found the ones in repo, so it's to know I don't need to look elsewhere | 15:32 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: I don't know of any other projects using zmq in their gates | 15:33 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: there's just the devstack plugin, which we'll remove once the driver itself goes | 15:33 |
dhellmann | there are some legacy jobs defiined in the openstack-zuul-jobs repo | 15:34 |
bnemec | So our standard deprecation policy would say that this needs to stick around until T. | 15:34 |
dhellmann | legacy-tempest-dsvm-full-zmq | 15:34 |
dhellmann | that's used by devstack-plugin-zmq | 15:35 |
dhellmann | in project-config | 15:35 |
dhellmann | if you're going to handle the devstack parts, I can leave that to you | 15:35 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: +1 | 15:35 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: add lower-constraints job https://review.openstack.org/556066 | 15:36 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: remove zmq tests https://review.openstack.org/556561 | 15:36 |
kgiusti | bnemec: bleh | 15:36 |
dhellmann | #link patch to remove zmq tests https://review.openstack.org/556561 | 15:36 |
bnemec | I'm feeling like we should make an exception since we believe this is broken anyway. | 15:36 |
kgiusti | bnemec: yeah, it's not like we're going to fix anything between now and then. | 15:37 |
dhellmann | I agree. That means we need to make more noise about it, but I think we can move ahead. | 15:37 |
dhellmann | that does make me feel better about starting by just removing the tests | 15:37 |
bnemec | What about a one cycle deprecation and remove in S? | 15:38 |
kgiusti | bnemec: deprecated and unsupported, remove in S - I can live with that. | 15:38 |
dhellmann | hmm | 15:38 |
dhellmann | yeah, I can support that | 15:38 |
dhellmann | plan, that is, not driver :-) | 15:39 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: you got my hopes up ;) | 15:39 |
bnemec | Heh | 15:39 |
bnemec | kgiusti: Can you communicate that in your email then? | 15:39 |
kgiusti | bnemec: most certainly | 15:39 |
bnemec | Basically I think it looks just as bad for us to carry known-broken code that we don't plan to fix as to short-circuit the deprecation period. | 15:40 |
bnemec | So let's tear off the band-aid and get it over with. | 15:40 |
kgiusti | bnemec: +1 | 15:40 |
ansmith | bnemec: agree | 15:41 |
bnemec | #action deprecate the zeromq driver in Rocky, remove it in S | 15:42 |
bnemec | Okay, sounds like we've got a plan and I think people have ample warning that this broken thing is going away. | 15:43 |
bnemec | That's it for topics. | 15:43 |
bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:43 |
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dhellmann | I have a bunch of patches up to add jobs to run py3 unit test jobs against all of the libraries using the lower bounds of their requirements | 15:44 |
dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:requirements-stop-syncing+status:open | 15:44 |
dhellmann | I'm hoping those are not controversial and that we can get them approved relatively quickly | 15:45 |
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bnemec | Yeah, I saw those patch bombs from over the weekend. :-) | 15:45 |
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bnemec | Do we want to apply a single approver policy to those? | 15:45 |
dhellmann | wfm | 15:45 |
dhellmann | I think all of them are passing except oslo.messaging | 15:46 |
dhellmann | oh, and oslo.service | 15:46 |
dhellmann | there's something odd there | 15:46 |
bnemec | Yeah, and the regular unit tests are failing there too, IIRC. | 15:46 |
bnemec | #action Oslo cores to single approve lower-bounds tests where they are passing | 15:49 |
bnemec | I guess I should note that there are quite a few untriaged bugs in Oslo too. | 15:50 |
bnemec | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 15:50 |
bnemec | I started working through that on Friday and will continue this week. | 15:50 |
bnemec | Any help is welcome. :-) | 15:51 |
bnemec | A number of them can probably be closed or marked incomplete if they're very old, to request that the reporter confirm the bug is still present. | 15:52 |
bnemec | We discussed that at the PTG for oslo.messaging too. | 15:52 |
dhellmann | #info proposing kgiusti for oslo-core | 15:53 |
dhellmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128736.html | 15:53 |
bnemec | +1! | 15:53 |
dhellmann | we should discuss that on the ML | 15:53 |
kgiusti | thanks | 15:53 |
gcb | +1 | 15:53 |
* bnemec will respond on the list too | 15:53 | |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr master: update parse test to use reliable comparison https://review.openstack.org/555808 | 15:54 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr master: builddoc: Treat '[pbr] autodoc_tree_excludes' as a multi-line opt https://review.openstack.org/552100 | 15:54 |
bnemec | \o/ Ship it! | 15:54 |
bnemec | Actually, on that note I noticed pbr wasn't in the oslo deliverables list in the releases repo. | 15:54 |
bnemec | I'm planning to add it since that is something that falls under our purview. | 15:55 |
bnemec | #action bnemec add pbr to oslo release deliverables | 15:55 |
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dhellmann | is it not on the separate list you keep? or is the team value in the deliverable file not set correctly? | 15:55 |
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bnemec | dhellmann: It's actually not present in https://github.com/openstack/releases/tree/master/deliverables/rocky at all. | 15:56 |
dhellmann | bnemec : it's under _independent | 15:56 |
dhellmann | https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/_independent/pbr.yaml | 15:57 |
bnemec | dhellmann: Huh. It didn't show up when I listed all the oslo changes. | 15:57 |
dhellmann | oh, the series defaults to the current value so it is probably being filtered out | 15:57 |
dhellmann | you might want to run "list-deliverables --series independent" and see what you get | 15:57 |
dhellmann | there may be multiple | 15:57 |
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bnemec | Yeah, will try that. | 15:58 |
bnemec | #undo | 15:58 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/_independent/pbr.yaml | 15:58 |
bnemec | Oops, that's not what I wanted to do. | 15:58 |
bnemec | Oh well, I'll add it to my offline todo list. :-) | 15:58 |
bnemec | Okay, time's just about up. Anything else? | 15:59 |
dhellmann | nothing here | 16:00 |
bnemec | Okay, thanks for joining everyone! | 16:00 |
bnemec | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 26 16:00:27 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-03-26-15.00.html | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-03-26-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-03-26-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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bnemec | dhellmann: --series independent did the trick. Thanks. | 16:03 |
* bnemec crosses that off the todo list | 16:03 | |
dhellmann | bnemec : I *think* you can use multiple --series args in one call but I don't remember | 16:03 |
dhellmann | if not we can make that work | 16:03 |
dhellmann | or add a special wildcard or something | 16:03 |
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bnemec | dhellmann: It looks like last --series wins right now. | 16:05 |
dhellmann | bnemec : if you file a story in storyboard against the openstack/releases repo that will help me remember to fix that for you (unless you want to take a stab at it yourself, of course) | 16:06 |
bnemec | dhellmann: I'll open a story either way. I should get familiar with storyboard. | 16:07 |
dhellmann | ++ | 16:07 |
* bnemec logged in and is stuck on rotating arrows :-/ | 16:08 | |
dhellmann | hmm | 16:09 |
dhellmann | you may find some folks in #storyboard who can help with that | 16:09 |
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dhellmann | the login stuff seems especially fragile. sometimes just force reloading the page fixes it. | 16:09 |
bnemec | A refresh fixed it. | 16:09 |
bnemec | Yeah | 16:09 |
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bnemec | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001738 | 16:11 |
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dhellmann | these oslo.service tests are weird | 16:14 |
dhellmann | they fork and manage processes and the child prcesses run the service launcher with workers set | 16:14 |
dhellmann | it's not clear why that step isn't just in a separate script that the tests run | 16:14 |
dhellmann | the tests are timing out trying to clean up those extra processes | 16:17 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/futurist master: add lower-constraints job https://review.openstack.org/555447 | 16:18 |
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kgiusti | bnemec: ping - there are a couple of openstack project associated with zmq and pika that we should probably clean up | 17:00 |
kgiusti | bnemec: see https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/devstack-plugin-pika/ and https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/devstack-plugin-zmq/ | 17:00 |
bnemec | kgiusti: +1 | 17:01 |
kgiusti | bnemec: they're used by the oslo.messaging devstack-based gate jobs | 17:01 |
bnemec | Yep, makes sense | 17:01 |
kgiusti | bnemec: problem: it appears as if they've never been branched! | 17:01 |
kgiusti | bnemec: which means - as best as I know - there are no stable branches for them | 17:02 |
kgiusti | bnemec: so the stable branches must be using master for those plugins | 17:02 |
bnemec | Indeed | 17:03 |
bnemec | That probably wasn't intentional. | 17:03 |
kgiusti | bnemec: looks like the amqp1.0 plugin suffers the same non-branch issue: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/devstack-plugin-amqp1 | 17:04 |
kgiusti | bnemec: I'm assuming I missed something when these projects were created. | 17:04 |
bnemec | kgiusti: They may be missing from the releases repo. | 17:05 |
* bnemec looks | 17:05 | |
bnemec | Yeah, I find no references to them in releases. | 17:06 |
kgiusti | bnemec: bummah. The amqp1 one is still supported it really needs to be in releases. | 17:06 |
bnemec | For the amqp1 repo, we definitely want to get it in there so it is branched in the future. | 17:06 |
bnemec | For the others, maybe we just leave them alone until the stable releases go away? | 17:07 |
bnemec | I guess we could ask about retroactively branching them. | 17:07 |
bnemec | But that seems like more work for something we plan to delete anyway. | 17:07 |
kgiusti | bnemec: I agree - I'll create a couple of launchpad bugs to remind me to remove them when the time comes | 17:08 |
bnemec | Cool | 17:08 |
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bnemec | kgiusti: I'm guessing the kafka plugin is in the same boat? | 17:11 |
kgiusti | bnemec: that's supported so we'll need to branch it as well - ansmith ^^^ | 17:12 |
ansmith | kgiusti, bnemec: yes, will need to branch kafka plugin as well | 17:13 |
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bnemec | kgiusti: ansmith: https://review.openstack.org/556596 | 17:18 |
bnemec | I asked in openstack-release if that's the correct way to handle this. | 17:19 |
bnemec | I based it on the existing devstack-plugin in the releases repo. | 17:19 |
kgiusti | bnemec: ha! Thanks - I was trying to figure out how it's done | 17:19 |
bnemec | kgiusti: We'll see what the release folks say. :-) | 17:20 |
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* bnemec notes with concern the number of bugs open against pylockfile | 17:33 | |
* bnemec hopes all those people moved on to other libraries. | 17:33 | |
dhellmann | bnemec, kgiusti : I think the oslo.service failures under python 2 are tied to a change in behavior in openssl (or pyopenssl) and that we need to generate some new certificates for the wsgi tests | 17:34 |
dhellmann | I don't know how to do that off the top of my head, do either of you? | 17:34 |
dhellmann | oslo_service/tests/ssl_cert/* | 17:35 |
bnemec | dhellmann: At one point I knew how to generate ssl certs. | 17:35 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: yeah - I'll take a look. | 17:35 |
bnemec | Are they self-signed? | 17:35 |
dhellmann | yeah, and I think the issue is they use an IP address not a host name | 17:35 |
dhellmann | I saw something about that on another ML thread somewhere else in the last week | 17:35 |
dhellmann | I'm still not sure what's going on for the py3 failures. It's like the signals aren't being received by the child process so they aren't dying | 17:36 |
bnemec | Oh, I wonder if they finally got serious about removing the deprecated Common Name functionality. | 17:36 |
dhellmann | that sounds familiar, yeah | 17:36 |
dhellmann | I'll keep working on the py3 failures | 17:37 |
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dhellmann | man, I wish we could get rid of this library, though | 17:39 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: fwiw: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.messaging/tree/oslo_messaging/tests/drivers/test_amqp_driver.py#n1467 | 17:39 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: that test generates self signed CA and server/client certs for use with the amqp1 functional tests | 17:40 |
dhellmann | does it work? | 17:40 |
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kgiusti | dhellmann: heh that's a good point - it did. | 17:40 |
dhellmann | if so, I'll see if I can port it to oslo.service | 17:40 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: let me run in locally (there are some openssl tools that need to be installed - that may be a problem for CI now that I think of it | 17:41 |
dhellmann | we can add those to bindep.txt to ensure they are present for ci | 17:41 |
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kgiusti | dhellmann: bingo | 17:41 |
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kgiusti | dhellmann: well I'll be damned - it works! | 17:45 |
dhellmann | nice | 17:45 |
dhellmann | eventually it would be nice to get that into a fixture in oslotest | 17:45 |
dhellmann | for now I'll start by making a fixture in oslo.service and then we can move it | 17:45 |
kgiusti | dhellmann: I turned it off for upstream gate a while back for some reason that I've long forgotten about. Getting old sucks. | 17:46 |
dhellmann | tell me about it | 17:47 |
bnemec | kgiusti: Do we need to branch the devstack plugins for queens? Or will it be okay if we just start branching going forward? | 17:50 |
kgiusti | bnemec: I don't trust my luck - if they can be branched easily for queens then do so. | 17:51 |
kgiusti | bnemec: the alternative is to "be careful", and I don't know how many times I've screwed that up before | 17:51 |
bnemec | kgiusti: Okay, sounds like we can. Do we want to branch off the latest commit or something earlier? | 17:52 |
* kgiusti looks | 17:52 | |
bnemec | kafka hasn't changed since last year, so that should be fine. | 17:53 |
bnemec | amqp1 has a more recent commit. | 17:53 |
bnemec | https://github.com/openstack/devstack-plugin-amqp1/commit/70e18b5738d7c1a77adc41217d96ea3e2830ab67 | 17:53 |
kgiusti | bnemec: ah, yes - that fix is appropriate for queens so you can branch from master | 17:54 |
kgiusti | ansmith: re: kafka ^^^ | 17:55 |
ansmith | kgiusti, bnemec: branch from master works for kafka plugin as well | 17:55 |
ansmith | bnemec: thanks! | 17:55 |
bnemec | kgiusti: ansmith: Okay, and just queens is okay? | 17:56 |
ansmith | that works for kafka | 17:56 |
kgiusti | bnemec: yep | 17:58 |
ansmith | kgiusti: do you recall which release supported separate om transports? was it mitaka? | 17:58 |
bnemec | Okay, will get that proposed too. The rocky placeholder patch has already merged so hopefully we won't forget going forward. | 17:58 |
kgiusti | ansmith: seriously? I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast this morning. ;) I seem to recall newton, actually. | 17:59 |
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ansmith | close enough, thanks | 18:00 |
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bnemec | devstack-plugin branch review: https://review.openstack.org/556602 | 18:05 |
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kgiusti | dhellmann: hrm... I think those oslo_server certs may be ok. At least I can use them with openssl s_server and s_client and the negotiation succeeds | 18:18 |
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kgiusti | dhellmann: i.e.: openssl s_server -cert certificate.crt -key privatekey.key & sleep 1; openssl s_client -CAfile ca.crt | 18:21 |
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dhellmann | kgiusti : ok, maybe the error I'm seeing is different. idna.core.IDNAError: The label ::1 is not a valid A-label | 19:55 |
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dhellmann | bnemec : would you make sure stevedore is on your list of things to release, please? | 20:15 |
bnemec | dhellmann: It is. There don't appear to have been any changes that require a new release though. | 20:17 |
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dhellmann | hmm, ok. the docs show an old version | 20:37 |
openstackgerrit | Ken Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: DO NOT MERGE - debugging a gate failure https://review.openstack.org/554658 | 20:37 |
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dhellmann | oh, yeah, just a few doc and requirements updates | 20:37 |
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bnemec | dhellmann: Is it possible the last release for stevedore would have gotten hit with a zuul outage or something? Maybe we just need to trigger another one? | 21:11 |
dhellmann | bnemec : the version listed is 1.28.1.dev7 and there are about 7 patches so I think it's actually fine | 21:12 |
dhellmann | I should have looked at what those patches were | 21:12 |
dhellmann | 7 seemed like a lot for that library :-) | 21:12 |
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