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| openstackgerrit | Moisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Create INI file ConfigurationSourceDriver.The configuration source driver looks for an URI to setup the INIConfigurationSource.The INIConfigurationSource class was created as a placeholder for now.The allowed shemes so far are 'http' and 'https', we can a https://review.openstack.org/568249 | 09:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Create INI file ConfigurationSourceDriver. https://review.openstack.org/562746 | 14:08 |
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| jaosorior | dhellmann: I see you had suggested the usage of requests-mock for the patch above ^^ | 14:12 |
| jaosorior | dhellmann: I didn't find that library in the requirements repo. Is that alright still? or should it be proposed? | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | jaosorior : I looked and thought it was being used, hang on | 14:13 |
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| dhellmann | jaosorior : yeah, it's on line 415 of global-requirements.txt | 14:13 |
| jaosorior | dhellmann: I see, I guess the import being used on the patch is wrong | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | you might have to add it to the local test-requirements.txt | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | that global list is the list of things "allowed" but not all of them are installed by default | 14:14 |
| jaosorior | dhellmann: this is what I meant https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562746/16/test-requirements.txt | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | jaosorior : that looks OK to me. are you seeing an error? | 14:15 |
| jaosorior | dhellmann: I'm not seeing the error. I just thought it should match what global-requirements.txt says | 14:16 |
| jaosorior | since the requirements in oslo get tracked, right? | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | jaosorior : the rules on that changed a little this cycle | 14:17 |
| jaosorior | so it should have been "requests-mock # Apache-2.0" instead of "requests_mock>=1.5.0 # Apache-2.0", right? | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | now the entry in the project requirements lists needs to be present in the global list, but does not have to match exactly | 14:17 |
| jaosorior | or did I misunderstand? | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | no, you have it correct | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | the projects need to specify which minimum version they need | 14:17 |
| jaosorior | I see | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | the global list only manages which versions are not allowed, so we can maintain co-installability | 14:17 |
| jaosorior | dhellmann: will the difference between - and _ be a problem? | 14:18 |
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| dhellmann | jaosorior : The package name and dist name can be different and - is not a valid character in a python package name | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | so that's probably correct -- did you try running the tests locally to see? | 14:19 |
| jaosorior | dhellmann: I didn't; was just trying to be pre-emptive. probably moguimar did though | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | I'll wait and see what the CI jobs have to say about it :-) | 14:19 |
| jaosorior | OK | 14:19 |
| jaosorior | gonna run the tests anyway | 14:19 |
| jaosorior | tests ran just fine | 14:21 |
| jaosorior | should be OK then | 14:21 |
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| dhellmann | jaosorior : cool | 14:22 |
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| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 14 15:00:11 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, haypo | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for jd__, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_, raildo | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for redrobot, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, stephenfin, stevemar, therve | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for thinrichs, toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:01 |
| raildo | o/ | 15:01 |
| ansmith | o/ | 15:01 |
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| e0ne | hi | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:01 |
| gcb | o/ | 15:02 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:02 | |
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| jungleboyj | Nothing from Cinder right now. | 15:03 |
| bnemec | Not too much from our side. We merged a bunch of bug fixes last week that will hopefully make things better. | 15:03 |
| bnemec | Okay, we'll move on then. | 15:05 |
| bnemec | #topic Releases for Rocky | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases for Rocky (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:05 | |
| bnemec | Just a couple last week, IIRC. | 15:05 |
| bnemec | Thanks to dhellmann for doing the stable releases. That should get us all caught up. | 15:05 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: I did hold off on releasing oslo.messaging last week because I saw that the heartbeat work had only partially merged. | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | bnemec : no problem | 15:06 |
| bnemec | I figured it would be better to wait until that is completely done before doing the feature release. | 15:06 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: right | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | if someone else is interested in being trained as the release liaison, I would be happy to do the training. just let me know. | 15:06 |
| bnemec | Okay, that's all I had on releases. Expect this week's to happen today or tomorrow. | 15:08 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:09 | |
| bnemec | "bnemec to sync up with gcb about Vancouver project update" and "Oslo contributors to contact bnemec with any project updates they'd like included" | 15:09 |
| bnemec | We ended up doing this on the etherpad. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-project-update-rocky | 15:09 |
| bnemec | I made some good progress on slides for the session. I'm hoping to send those out shortly to get some feedback. | 15:10 |
| bnemec | Which dovetails nicely with the next topic. | 15:10 |
| bnemec | #topic Vancouver project update | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vancouver project update (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:11 | |
| bnemec | kgiusti: ansmith: Are either of you going to be there? | 15:11 |
| kgiusti | I'll be there | 15:11 |
| bnemec | I ask mostly because of the kafka topic. | 15:11 |
| gcb | I just added two topics: policy deprecation and external-pdp | 15:11 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: Okay, are you good to talk about the kafka work then? | 15:12 |
| bnemec | gcb: Yep, thanks | 15:12 |
| kgiusti | Sure thnig | 15:12 |
| kgiusti | thing | 15:12 |
| bnemec | Oh, and the RPC monitoring topic, which I may have forgotten to include in the slides... | 15:12 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: if we can collaborate on the slides I can take both rpc mon and kafka | 15:13 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: what slide tool are you using? | 15:13 |
| bnemec | Actually it was just on a different page because it's still in-progress. | 15:13 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: I'm using LibreOffice because the foundation sent out the template in PPTX (yuck). | 15:14 |
| kgiusti | np - can I send you a couple of slides for inclusion? | 15:14 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: Absolutely. | 15:14 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: kk - will do | 15:14 |
| bnemec | Thanks | 15:15 |
| bnemec | I also talked to Lance about the policy-related stuff, and he's going to try to be in the room to field questions if anyone wants more specifics than I can give. | 15:16 |
| gcb | bnemec: will you finish two topics in your slides I mentioned or need my input ? | 15:16 |
| bnemec | gcb: I have slides for those already, so I think we're good. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | They both had convenient examples that fit well on a slide. :-) | 15:17 |
| gcb | bnemec: cool | 15:17 |
| * jungleboyj just noticed that I am listed on the Oslo On-Boarding session. | 15:17 | |
| bnemec | Besides details on the messaging work, I think the one thing I'm a little light on is post-Rocky work. | 15:18 |
| bnemec | oslo.limit is likely to extend beyond Rocky, but I put that in the cross-project slide. | 15:18 |
| bnemec | jungleboyj: That's the next topic. :-) | 15:19 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Good. :-) | 15:19 |
| bnemec | So if anyone knows of Oslo work planned for next cycle or beyond, please let me know. | 15:19 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec : that config driver work may carry over | 15:20 |
| bnemec | Ah, good point. | 15:21 |
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| bnemec | Okay, I'll make a few more tweaks and then send the slides to everyone for feedback early this week. | 15:22 |
| bnemec | And before we all leave for Vancouver I'll send a final version in case I get snowed in again or something. :-) | 15:23 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 15:23 |
| bnemec | Although if that happens, jungleboyj is probably stuck too. ;-) | 15:23 |
| jungleboyj | :-( Yep. I really hope we are done with snow. | 15:24 |
| bnemec | Likewise. | 15:24 |
| bnemec | I think we have enough content lined up to fill our 20 minute update slot, so... | 15:25 |
| bnemec | #topic Onboarding session agenda | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Onboarding session agenda (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:25 | |
| bnemec | jungleboyj: I think you mentioned that you had done these for Cinder before? | 15:25 |
| jungleboyj | Yep. | 15:25 |
| bnemec | And you might have a basic outline of an agenda we could follow? | 15:25 |
| jungleboyj | bnemec: Sure. | 15:25 |
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| bnemec | jungleboyj: Okay, can you send me that sometime this week? | 15:26 |
| jungleboyj | Sure. | 15:27 |
| bnemec | Cool, thanks. | 15:27 |
| jungleboyj | It is basically an overview of our different repos. | 15:27 |
| bnemec | #action jungleboyj to send bnemec Cinder onboarding agenda | 15:27 |
| jungleboyj | Walk through of the architecture. | 15:27 |
| jungleboyj | Introduce the core team members. | 15:27 |
| bnemec | Yeah, I don't know that we can hit all of the Oslo repos, but maybe some highlights. | 15:27 |
| jungleboyj | High level walk-through of code. | 15:27 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, I need to figure out how to slim mine down as I have half as much time this time. | 15:28 |
| bnemec | Okay, we'll figure it out. | 15:29 |
| bnemec | FWIW, we do have people signed up for the Oslo session. | 15:29 |
| bnemec | They sent out a spreadsheet with some stats from the schedule page and at the time we had 5 people who had added it to their schedule. | 15:30 |
| bnemec | Which doesn't guarantee anyone will attend, but hopefully it's a good sign that we won't be talking to ourselves. :-) | 15:30 |
| jungleboyj | bnemec: That is good. | 15:30 |
| kgiusti | +1 - tho I do know a few jokes.... just in case. | 15:30 |
| * bnemec changes the session title to "Standup with Ken" ;-) | 15:31 | |
| bnemec | 2 drink minimum. | 15:31 |
| kgiusti | more drinks than that - I'm not very funny. | 15:31 |
| bnemec | :-) | 15:32 |
| bnemec | Okay, I think we have a plan for that too. | 15:32 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 15:32 |
| bnemec | I guess I should mention that the onboarding session is Tuesday at 3:30 | 15:33 |
| bnemec | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/21645/oslo-project-onboarding | 15:33 |
| bnemec | And back to the previous topic the project update is Wednesday at 9:50 | 15:34 |
| bnemec | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/21617/oslo-project-update | 15:34 |
| bnemec | #topic No meeting next week (or two?) | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "No meeting next week (or two?) (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:34 | |
| bnemec | Monday I and most of you will be in Vancouver, so definitely no meeting then. | 15:35 |
| jungleboyj | ++ | 15:35 |
| bnemec | The following Monday will be the first day back for many people, so I'm not sure it's worth holding a meeting then either. | 15:35 |
| bnemec | I know I don't get back until like 10:30 PM on Friday. | 15:36 |
| bnemec | At least my flight doesn't leave at 6:00 AM this time though. | 15:36 |
| bnemec | So, unless someone has a burning desire to meet I'd say let's skip the next two weeks. | 15:36 |
| bnemec | If something comes up we can always change that plan. | 15:37 |
| kgiusti | +1 | 15:37 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to send email about Oslo meeting cancellations | 15:38 |
| bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:39 | |
| bnemec | This is a new thing I want to try. | 15:39 |
| bnemec | Right before we take two weeks off probably isn't the best time, but oh well. | 15:40 |
| bnemec | Basically we have some very old reviews in our repos, and to start working on that backlog I'd like to pick on each week and as a group figure out what to do with it. | 15:40 |
| bnemec | Currently our oldest review is: | 15:41 |
| bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450956/ | 15:41 |
| bnemec | At 410 days (!) | 15:41 |
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| bnemec | It's entirely unit test additions and is passing CI, so it seems like it shouldn't be too hard to review. | 15:42 |
| bnemec | So maybe the way forward with it is just to get it on everyone's review queue? | 15:43 |
| bnemec | I do see that some of the followup patches need some work, so maybe that's why this one stalled. | 15:44 |
| bnemec | It would be nice to get it off the books if we can though. | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | if it is a set of tests to show a bug exists, and the tests patch, does that mean the bug is fixed? | 15:45 |
| bnemec | #action Oslo cores to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450956/ | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | or does it mean the tests are proving the library does the wrong thing? | 15:45 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:45 | |
| bnemec | #undo | 15:45 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Open discussion | 15:45 |
| bnemec | Glancing through I saw some comments about wrong behavior, so I think it might be demonstrating the bug. | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | ah, the tests have things that should work but don't commented out | 15:46 |
| bnemec | I assume that those tests will be fixed in followups when the bug(s) are actually fixed. | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if they will, though, because dolph isn't working on openstack any more afaik | 15:47 |
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| bnemec | Okay, maybe that needs to be WIP'd pending a new owner for the work? | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I think we want someone to figure out what the story is and at least report back on that and maybe with a suggestion about what approach to take | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | some of this might be misinterpretation of what's expected, bad docs, or actual bugs | 15:49 |
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| bnemec | Is here a #helpwanted meeting command? | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | I don't think so :-) | 15:51 |
| jungleboyj | :-) That would be a good addition. | 15:52 |
| bnemec | I guess there's already an action to review the patch, and figuring out the direction it needs to go is part of that. | 15:52 |
| bnemec | This probably explains why it's been open for over a year now. | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:53 |
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| bnemec | So if anyone has an abundance of free time, feel free to take over that series. | 15:53 |
| bnemec | I guess we'll revisit this next meeting too since it has an action item. We'll see what has happened in the intervening weeks. | 15:54 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:54 | |
| bnemec | A few minutes left, anything else to discuss? | 15:55 |
| jungleboyj | bnemec: I sent you a link to ne of my onboarding presentations. | 15:55 |
| bnemec | jungleboyj: Great, thanks! | 15:55 |
| jungleboyj | Welcome. | 15:56 |
| bnemec | Oh, oops. I actually had a couple of other things that I failed to put on the agenda. | 15:56 |
| bnemec | The first was release-related. | 15:56 |
| bnemec | We have some projects in Oslo that haven't been released yet in Rocky. | 15:56 |
| bnemec | The release team sent out a reminder email about such projects last week. | 15:57 |
| bnemec | Should we go ahead and release those? | 15:57 |
| smcginnis | Do they have pending changes, or have they just been unnecessary? | 15:57 |
| bnemec | This is probably a question for dhellmann | 15:57 |
| smcginnis | Pending == merged | 15:57 |
| bnemec | smcginnis: All the changes in those projects this cycle have been test or doc changes that don't require release. | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | then it's safe to leave them | 15:58 |
| bnemec | Okay, I'll leave them be then. | 15:59 |
| bnemec | The other thing I wanted to mention was that we haven't actually responded to the mox removal goal yet. | 15:59 |
| bnemec | That's probably going to have to wait for next meeting though since we're out of time and Summit is next week. | 16:00 |
| bnemec | I'm going to leave myself an action item on that though. | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 16:00 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to respond to mox removal goal | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | I think our response is probably the patch to move it out of the oslo list | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | assuming we're not actually using mox anywhere, of course | 16:01 |
| bnemec | Yeah, I'm hoping that the work is mostly just to verify that we aren't. | 16:01 |
| bnemec | But I don't know that anyone has looked. | 16:01 |
| bnemec | Okay, we're over time. Thanks for joining everyone! | 16:02 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 14 16:02:45 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-05-14-15.00.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-05-14-15.00.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-05-14-15.00.log.html | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks. | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | bnemec : http://paste.openstack.org/show/720936/ shows projects that have mox3 in their requirements files | 16:04 |
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| bnemec | dhellmann: Okay, so the only thing we probably have to do is remove https://github.com/openstack/oslotest/blob/179b18af84f55d4fbab31eceda7f9d2816ba2667/oslotest/moxstubout.py | 16:15 |
| bnemec | But we can't do that until everyone has stopped using it. | 16:15 |
| bnemec | We should deprecate it now, though. | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | yeah, we should deprecate it and then probably just leave it alone | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | and then make the governance change to say we aren't the mox3 maintainers any more | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | unless we don't want to do that | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack/oslotest master: Deprecate MoxStubout class https://review.openstack.org/568336 | 17:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack/oslotest master: Deprecate MoxStubout class https://review.openstack.org/568336 | 19:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack/oslotest master: Fix requirements https://review.openstack.org/568357 | 19:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack/oslo.config master: WIP: Simple config validator https://review.openstack.org/567950 | 19:56 |
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