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openstackgerritVu Cong Tuan proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Add py36 testenv  https://review.openstack.org/57768502:19
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openstackgerritMoisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Add config_source option  https://review.openstack.org/55431608:17
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openstackgerritMoisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Add example group for the URI driver  https://review.openstack.org/57510708:33
openstackgerritMoisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: User guide documentation for backend drivers for oslo.config  https://review.openstack.org/57694708:34
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openstackgerritMoisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Add example group for the URI driver  https://review.openstack.org/57510708:39
openstackgerritMoisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: User guide documentation for backend drivers for oslo.config  https://review.openstack.org/57694708:40
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openstackgerritMoisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: User guide documentation for backend drivers for oslo.config  https://review.openstack.org/57694708:51
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openstackgerritTovin Seven proposed openstack/osprofiler master: Add minimum version and fix dulwich issue  https://review.openstack.org/57779111:40
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openstackgerritTovin Seven proposed openstack/osprofiler master: Add minimum version and fix dulwich issue  https://review.openstack.org/57779112:01
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openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Implement base for pluggable policy drivers  https://review.openstack.org/57780712:53
openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Create _plugins directory for enforcer drivers  https://review.openstack.org/57780812:53
jaosoriorIf I would like to propose a blueprint for oslo.policy, where should I do that?12:54
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dhellmannjaosorior : openstack/oslo-specs13:13
jaosoriorthanks13:13
dhellmannjaosorior : we don't really use blueprints on lp13:13
jaosoriorright, I was unsure about that13:13
jaosoriordhellmann: when can I start proposing specs for stein?13:13
jaosoriorI know it's quite late for rocky13:13
dhellmannyou could go ahead and write it up now, I guess. we have another one in process right now.13:14
jaosoriorI'll do that, thanks13:14
dhellmannwe're pretty loose with "start" of submissions but we do usually cut of acceptance early13:14
dhellmannthat depends a bit on the scope of the spec, though13:14
jaosoriordhellmann: so, I would like to do oslo.policy drivers. Which is basically what https://review.openstack.org/577807 and https://review.openstack.org/577808 are doing.13:15
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dhellmannyeah, that looks really interesting13:15
dhellmannI know some folks at Orange would like that, since they're generating policy files to talk to an external system right now13:15
jaosoriordhellmann: should I do a separate spec for Open Policy Based driver I would like to do as part of that work?13:15
dhellmannyou could just mention it in the overall framework13:16
jaosorior* Open Policy Agent13:16
jaosoriorOK13:16
dhellmannunless there are a lot of details about how we have to map data between the library and the agent13:16
dhellmannwrite it all up as one for now, I guess, and if it's too complex we can work on how to split it13:16
jaosoriordhellmann: not really. Though I did describe the work I'm doing in a blog post :D13:17
dhellmann:-)13:17
jaosoriorkinda straight forward though13:17
dhellmannwe split the castellan driver out from the config driver thing because we wanted the driver spec to describe an amount of work we could complete in one cycle13:17
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jaosoriorright13:17
dhellmannand there were lots of details about the castellan driver, I think13:17
jaosoriorI think this driver work is simpler than the oslo.config driver work13:18
dhellmannthat's likely13:18
jaosoriordhellmann: if you have time, python-related question... Any idea why I'm getting "ImportError: cannot import name _cache_handler" in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577808/ ? Here's stacktrace http://logs.openstack.org/08/577808/1/check/openstack-tox-py27/109d861/testr_results.html.gz13:19
dhellmannlet me look13:19
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dhellmannjaosorior : you have a python module named oslo_policy and a package named oslo_policy and that's confusing the importer13:26
dhellmannrename the module to something else13:26
jaosoriorok13:27
jaosoriorI couldn't think of a better name13:27
jaosoriorhaha :D13:27
jaosoriorany ideas?13:27
dhellmannthat's the module that will hold the file-based enforcer, right?13:27
jaosoriordhellmann: right, it's the same enforcer that has always been used.13:28
dhellmannI left a suggestion for an alternate plugin name on the patch. You could match whichever of those you pick.13:28
jaosoriordhellmann: I thought about calling it file.py... but it's not file-based anymore (projects are registering default rules from code)13:28
dhellmannah, so maybe "default" or "builtin" or something is a better choice than file13:29
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jaosorioraha, both good options13:29
dhellmannneither is that descriptive so keep thinking, but those would be better than oslo_policy13:30
openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Implement base for pluggable policy drivers  https://review.openstack.org/57780713:40
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: rabbit: Acknowledge duplicate message  https://review.openstack.org/57782413:57
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: rabbit: Acknowledge duplicate message  https://review.openstack.org/57782413:58
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: rabbit: Acknowledge duplicate message  https://review.openstack.org/57782414:00
openstackgerritMichael Bayer proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Rename enginefacade.async to enginefacade.async_  https://review.openstack.org/57483314:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tooz master: fix tox python3 overrides  https://review.openstack.org/57289314:10
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openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/taskflow master: Fix code to support networkx > 2.0  https://review.openstack.org/57783314:20
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bnemecNice! ^14:58
dhellmannit will be interesting to see if that works with both the old and new versions of networkx14:59
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bnemecYeah, I'm not positive it will pass ci.15:00
bnemecBut at least it's a start.15:00
bnemecAnd meeting time.15:00
bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 25 15:00:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:02
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bnemecI don't recall doing anything controversial last week.15:03
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njohnstonOne note - janzian has retired as the Neutron-Oslo liaison, and I have volunteered to replace him.15:04
dhellmannwelcome, njohnston!15:05
dhellmannplease make sure the CrossProjectLiaisons page in the wiki is up to date15:05
njohnstonWill do.  Thanks!15:05
bnemecnjohnston: Great!  And if you want to be pinged at the start of the meeting please propose and update to https://github.com/openstack/oslo.tools/blob/master/ping_me.py15:06
bnemec*an15:06
bnemecI guess on the red flags topic I will note that I ran into an issue with masakari and oslo.context: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513520/15:07
bnemecHowever, I think it's mostly due to the fact that they use user_id in their sub class and we also use it in oslo.context.15:07
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bnemecThere's a note in the code that they want to remove their user_id anyway so I suspect that will be the right solution.15:08
bnemec#topic Releases15:08
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bnemecBusiness as usual.  We made several releases last week, and I expect several more this week.15:08
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bnemecI would still like to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573447/ merged before we release oslo.log.15:09
bnemecThe first half of that merged, but it would be better to have that one too.15:09
dhellmannI guess there's no reason to check before appending it?15:10
dhellmannit would just reset twice, and it's only a couple of bytes, right?15:10
bnemecdhellmann: I don't think it would hurt to have it there twice.15:11
bnemecYeah15:11
dhellmann+2a15:11
bnemecThanks15:11
bnemecI'll probably wait to do releases today until that merges then.15:11
dhellmann++15:11
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:11
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bnemecWe didn't have any.15:12
bnemecAlthough it's worth noting that we previously had an action item related to networkx in taskflow, and someone pushed a patch just before the meeting to address that.15:12
dhellmann\o/15:12
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/57783315:12
bnemecWe'll see what ci says about it.15:13
bnemecBut it's good progress either way.15:13
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bnemecNo one off topics today either.15:13
dhellmannI have something, we if have time15:14
bnemecdhellmann: Sure15:14
dhellmannI've been working on writing up the process for moving us to "python 3 first" next cycle15:14
dhellmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575933/15:14
dhellmannI need some repositories to test with, so I would like to start with a couple of the oslo repos15:14
dhellmannsort of like we did with the tox.ini updates earlier this cycle15:15
bnemecI'm good with that.15:15
bnemecOslo needs to be working before most of the other projects can make progress anyway.15:16
dhellmannyeah, that's another reason for doing oslo early15:16
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dhellmannI'm waiting for one or two infra patches to land before we can start, but I will go ahead and send email to the -dev list to announce the work15:17
bnemecSo I haven't actually read that yet.  Is it a question of switching the devstack jobs to py3?15:17
bnemecOr are we adding a py3 job in addition to the existing py2 job(s)?15:18
dhellmannthere are several changes in there and I'm rolling them all into 1 goal because of the amount of churn in the zuul configuration15:18
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dhellmannif you haven't read it, then you're a good person to give feedback on whether it explains things clearly :-)15:19
bnemecOkay, looks like we've already done some of the steps for oslo though.15:19
dhellmannyeah, I've done some of them, but not all15:19
dhellmannI would like to finish at least 1 oslo repo before stein (maybe all of them if we have time)15:19
bnemecOkay, I'll add that to my review list.15:20
bnemec#action bnemec review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57593315:20
dhellmannthanks15:21
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bnemecAnyone else who wants to take a look is welcome to as well, of course. :-)15:22
bnemec#topic Weekly Wayward Review15:23
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bnemecWe actually merged a longstanding review last week.  I can't remember what it was, but I think it was the next one on the list.15:23
bnemecSo \o/15:23
bnemecNext up is a pbr review.15:23
dhellmannwoot!15:23
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/54930415:23
bnemecOh, that should be WIP.  It depends on a WIP patch.15:24
bnemecAnd the WIP patch has some disagreement on it, so not sure we can unblock it in this meeting.15:25
bnemec#action bnemec to WIP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54930415:25
bnemecThat was easy. :-)15:26
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:26
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bnemecI guess we kind of already did this, but anything else to discuss?15:27
dhellmannwhat are our plans for storyboard?15:29
bnemecI don't have any concrete ones at the moment.15:29
bnemecI guess the first step would be to do a test import.15:30
bnemecI don't think it's a given that it will go smoothly since I suspect we have a lot more launchpad projects than anyone else.15:30
dhellmannwe're far from the biggest any more, but a test import is definitely part of the process15:31
dhellmanndiablo_roja and fungi can help with that15:31
bnemecYeah, I don't think we're the biggest, but I'm not sure anyone else has as many separate lp projects.15:31
bnemecEven tripleo manages most of their bugs under one project.15:31
dhellmannah15:32
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bnemecBut there are other multi-lp-project projects that have migrated, so I assume that is supported.15:32
bnemecIt's more a question of scaling.15:32
dhellmannyeah, I'm sure that's doable15:32
dhellmannstill, testing is good15:32
bnemecOkay, I can kick off a discussion with them about trying the import.15:33
dhellmann++15:33
bnemecOnce we have that as a baseline we can figure out what our next steps are.15:33
bnemec#action bnemec to contact storyboard team about doing test import of oslo projects15:34
dhellmann#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131787.html announce plan to use oslo for testing python 3/zuul transition steps15:34
bnemecCool, thanks15:34
bnemecAnything else?15:35
dhellmannthat's it from me15:35
njohnstonnothing else here15:36
bnemecOkay, thanks everyone for all your work and for joining the meeting!15:38
bnemec#endmeeting15:38
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fungiyep, we've imported groups of projects from lp to sb, the number is fairly irrelevant as long as we know what the mapping should be. basically bugs for each launchpad project should result in tasks for some equivalent project in storyboard, but the storyboard projects are aligned with git repository names for ease of automation15:42
fungiso where it gets tricky is if there are groups of repos which were being mapped to fewer lp projects (trying to determine which one in sb should get those imported tasks), and when the names of lp projects otherwise didn't match the names of the repos15:43
dhellmannyeah, I think ours are all 1:1 mappings15:43
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openstackgerritMichael Bayer proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Rename enginefacade.async to enginefacade.async_  https://review.openstack.org/57483315:51
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openstackgerritMichal Arbet proposed openstack/taskflow master: Fix code to support networkx > 2.0  https://review.openstack.org/57783315:55
openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Implement base for pluggable policy drivers  https://review.openstack.org/57780715:55
openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Implement base for pluggable policy drivers  https://review.openstack.org/57780715:55
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/sphinx-feature-classification master: doc: Rework usage guide  https://review.openstack.org/57786216:27
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/sphinx-feature-classification master: Parse 'driver-notes-XXX' values  https://review.openstack.org/57786316:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.log master: Automatically append reset_color to log lines  https://review.openstack.org/57344716:35
openstackgerritJohn Eckersberg proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: Do not use threading.Event  https://review.openstack.org/55888217:02
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openstackgerritHervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Rename enginefacade async method into asynchronous  https://review.openstack.org/57732318:58
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openstackgerritMichael Bayer proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Rename enginefacade.async to enginefacade.async_  https://review.openstack.org/57483319:07
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: rabbit: acknowledge message sooner  https://review.openstack.org/57791219:45
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dhellmannstephenfin : https://github.com/sphinx-contrib/pecanwsme is all set up and ready20:22
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openstackgerritNate Johnston proposed openstack/oslo.tools master: Add njohnston to ping_me.py  https://review.openstack.org/57792820:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.tools master: Add njohnston to ping_me.py  https://review.openstack.org/57792821:02
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