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| openstackgerrit | Vu Cong Tuan proposed openstack/oslo.concurrency master: Switch to stestr https://review.openstack.org/579467 | 06:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Convert oslo.policy to using stestr https://review.openstack.org/579295 | 13:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Convert oslo.policy to using stestr https://review.openstack.org/579295 | 13:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Pass dictionary as creds in policy tests https://review.openstack.org/578994 | 13:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Teach Enforcer.enforce to deal with context objects https://review.openstack.org/578995 | 13:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Convert oslo.policy to using stestr https://review.openstack.org/579295 | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Pass dictionary as creds in policy tests https://review.openstack.org/578994 | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Teach Enforcer.enforce to deal with context objects https://review.openstack.org/578995 | 15:00 |
| lbragstad | bnemec: stephenfin sorry for the churn - but apparently stestr 2.0.0 works with oslo.policy? | 15:01 |
| stephenfin | lbragstad: All good. +2d again | 15:01 |
| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 2 15:02:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| lbragstad | thanks | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:02 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims | 15:02 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, haypo | 15:02 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for jd__, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_, raildo | 15:02 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for redrobot, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, stephenfin, stevemar, therve | 15:02 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for thinrichs, toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek | 15:02 |
| jungleboyj | Morning. | 15:02 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:02 |
| bnemec | lbragstad: We can fast-approve that whenever it passes ci. | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:03 |
| johnsom | o/ | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/futurist master: Add blueprints notes link to README https://review.openstack.org/579075 | 15:04 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:04 | |
| bnemec | lbragstad noticed an issue with oslo.policy and the new oslotest last week. | 15:05 |
| bnemec | I believe the problem was that oslotest dropped testr as a dep, so if projects don't have it explicitly in their own test-requirements then their unit tests will be broken. | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | how is that a problem with oslotest? | 15:05 |
| bnemec | For oslo.policy we're taking this opportunity to migrate to stestr. | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.policy master: Add blueprints and releasenotes link to README https://review.openstack.org/579329 | 15:05 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: It's not, but it's something to be aware of. | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:06 |
| bnemec | Call it a yellow flag. :-) | 15:06 |
| johnsom | Nothing to report from Octavia | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | 2 yellow flags and the library is ejected from the game? | 15:07 |
| bnemec | https://goo.gl/images/mPl4xK | 15:08 |
| jungleboyj | :-) No red flags from Cinder that I know of. | 15:08 |
| bnemec | Okay, sounds like that covers it. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | #topic Releases | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:09 | |
| bnemec | BAU | 15:09 |
| bnemec | Will do the next set of Oslo releases early this week. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:10 | |
| bnemec | "bnemec review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575933" | 15:10 |
| * bnemec doesn't remember what that was | 15:10 | |
| bnemec | Ah, python3 first. I did that. | 15:10 |
| bnemec | "bnemec to WIP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549304" | 15:11 |
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| bnemec | Also done. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | "bnemec to contact storyboard team about doing test import of oslo projects" | 15:11 |
| bnemec | Not done. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | I got hung up on some designate stuff last week and never got around to this. Will keep it on the list for next week. | 15:12 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to contact storyboard team about doing test import of oslo projects | 15:12 |
| bnemec | And that was it. | 15:12 |
| bnemec | #topic pbr Sem-Ver headers | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pbr Sem-Ver headers (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:12 | |
| bnemec | This came up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561731/ | 15:12 |
| bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561731/ | 15:12 |
| bnemec | fungi mentioned he's not a big fan of this feature because once a patch merges with a version bumping sem-ver tag it's impossible to undo. | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | I agree | 15:13 |
| bnemec | And we don't actually use it in openstack. | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | I would support deprecating the automatic calculation for dev tags but retaining the calculation for an explicit tag operation like this command | 15:14 |
| bnemec | However, apparently it is being used elsewhere because the submitter of the patch wants it even better integrated. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: That sounds reasonable. | 15:15 |
| bnemec | Do you want to leave that as a comment on the review? | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | sure | 15:15 |
| bnemec | Gaetan sounds like he might be willing to pick up that work. | 15:16 |
| bnemec | #action dhellmann to comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561731/ | 15:16 |
| bnemec | That was easier than I expected. :-) | 15:17 |
| bnemec | #topic Oslo feature freeze | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Oslo feature freeze (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:17 | |
| bnemec | It's coming soon. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | I believe next week sometime? | 15:17 |
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| bnemec | Yeah, next week is the week before final non-client release, which is when we defined the Oslo feature freeze. | 15:18 |
| bnemec | So I guess features need to have landed by the end of next week or they'll have to get pushed to Stein. | 15:19 |
| bnemec | I'm planning to send out an email to the list later this week to let everyone know. | 15:19 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to send mail to -dev about Oslo feature freeze | 15:19 |
| bnemec | Let me know if you have any questions or concerns about this. | 15:20 |
| bnemec | And that's it for topics. | 15:21 |
| bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:21 | |
| bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/518949 | 15:21 |
| bnemec | Hmm, dhellmann left comments months ago that haven't been responded to. | 15:22 |
| bnemec | Maybe this should be marked WIP until those are resolved? | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | I can leave a -1 in case the submitter didn't see my comments before | 15:23 |
| bnemec | That might be good. | 15:23 |
| bnemec | At the very least I agree with your comment on the name of the extras. | 15:23 |
| bnemec | The other one the submitter needs to answer. | 15:24 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I left a -1 there and also commented on the pbr patch | 15:24 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Thanks | 15:24 |
| bnemec | That's another longstanding review off the list \o/ | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | I like doing this | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | I'd even say we could do 2-3 each week | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | but doing at least one is a good system | 15:25 |
| bnemec | I feel like it's really helped clean up our backlog. | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:25 |
| bnemec | My hope is that at some point we'll whittle it down to where we don't always even have a review that needs attention. | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | good goal | 15:27 |
| bnemec | We already have reviews in the oldest 15 that are only single digit days, so I feel like we're mostly keeping up. | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | oh, nice, that's better than I assumed | 15:27 |
| bnemec | So big thanks to everyone doing reviews for that! | 15:28 |
| bnemec | I do still owe a review on the config migration patch. | 15:29 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to review config migration change | 15:29 |
| bnemec | Especially with feature freeze coming up. | 15:29 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:29 | |
| bnemec | Anything else this week? | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | nothing from me | 15:30 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from me. | 15:31 |
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| stephenfin | Nope | 15:32 |
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| bnemec | Okay, sounds like we're done. | 15:33 |
| bnemec | Thanks for joining everyone! | 15:33 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 15:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 2 15:33:50 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-07-02-15.02.html | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-07-02-15.02.txt | 15:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-07-02-15.02.log.html | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config master: DNM: test python3 version of requirements-check https://review.openstack.org/579604 | 15:33 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 15:34 |
| dhellmann | bnemec : the dependency for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575927/ has merged and the test is passing so I think it's safe to approve it | 15:35 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: That's the tempest-full-py3 job? | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | bnemec : yes | 15:38 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Seems like this could potentially wedge the oslo gate if another project merged something that was incompatible with our master. | 15:39 |
| bnemec | Although with weekly releases I guess the window for that to happen is pretty small. | 15:40 |
| bnemec | There was a ML thread on this right? Maybe I should go read that more carefully. | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | bnemec : it's part of testing the python3-first plans. | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | you raise a good point, though | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | maybe we don't want to land that until next cycle | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | although, let me think through the failure mode you describe | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | a project that does not have a python3 version of the integrated gate jobs would have to land a change that is not python3 compatible | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | our version of that job runs the default set of services | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | and all of those do already gate on a python3 version of the tempest job | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | the service version of the job runs oslo.config from releases | 15:45 |
| bnemec | Oh, and we're already running against master of the services for oslo jobs anyway, right? | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | so I don't think we are very likely to get wedged | 15:46 |
| bnemec | It's just libs that get used from release by default. | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | that's right | 15:46 |
| bnemec | Okay, so this isn't as big a change as I was thinking then. | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | this job is to prevent us from wedging the services, and I don't think the other case is possible/likely | 15:46 |
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| bnemec | Generally speaking, doesn't upper-constraints protect us against that? | 15:48 |
| bnemec | (+2 on the change in any case - adding a tempest-py3 job seems like a win) | 15:48 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, upper-constraints protects the services from bad releases of libraries | 15:51 |
| bnemec | I guess I don't understand the forward testing part of the job. | 15:53 |
| bnemec | The lib under test has to be installed from git anyway, right? | 15:53 |
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| dhellmann | yes, normally devstack doesn't do that | 16:13 |
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| dhellmann | the old version of the tempest job did some special work to make it happen. The new version of the job also does some special work, but requires less configuration | 16:14 |
| dhellmann | while we're talking about test jobs, do you know what openstack-tox-py27-with-oslo-master is? Do you look at the output (it runs as a periodic job)? | 16:14 |
| dhellmann | oops, brb | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Bump sphinx to match lower requirements https://review.openstack.org/579169 | 16:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Pass dictionary as creds in policy tests https://review.openstack.org/578994 | 16:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Teach Enforcer.enforce to deal with context objects https://review.openstack.org/578995 | 16:21 |
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| bnemec | dhellmann: I think that might have been set up by dims back in the day to handle cross-testing all of the oslo projects at once. | 16:36 |
| bnemec | Instead of having a huge matrix of jobs on each project to test master-master. | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | bnemec : do you use the results? | 16:41 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: I haven't been looking at it, no. | 16:41 |
| bnemec | I suspect that may have been more important in the days before u-c too. | 16:41 |
| bnemec | Also I'm not sure we were doing weekly releases back then. | 16:42 |
| dhellmann | ok, thanks | 16:44 |
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