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| openstackgerrit | TommyLike proposed openstack/oslo.privsep master: Use green thread to proceed target function https://review.openstack.org/593556 | 09:30 |
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| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 20 15:00:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, haypo | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for jd__, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_, njohnston | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for raildo, redrobot, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, stephenfin, stevemar | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for therve, thinrichs, toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek | 15:00 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:00 |
| ansmith | o/ | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | I guess we solved the ping/kick problem? | 15:00 |
| bnemec | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:01 |
| redrobot | o/ but only kinda b/c I have another meeting happening in parallel | 15:01 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: It sounds like it was only an issue if you had the Sigyn bot in your channel. | 15:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | ah | 15:01 |
| bnemec | It was never a problem for this meeting, I only asked about it to try to avoid having it become one. | 15:01 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:03 | |
| bnemec | Pretty light activity on the release front for us so there shouldn't be much in the way of new problems. | 15:04 |
| bnemec | #topic Releases | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:06 | |
| bnemec | I think the only noteworthy thing here is the Castellan FFE, which needs an ack from the requirements team. | 15:06 |
| bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/592746 | 15:07 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:08 | |
| bnemec | "Review patches listed in http://paste.openstack.org/show/727932/" | 15:08 |
| bnemec | Made some progress, although I believe there are a number of those still open. | 15:08 |
| bnemec | Will keep that one on the list for next week. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | #action Review patches listed in http://paste.openstack.org/show/727932/ | 15:09 |
| bnemec | "bnemec to update Gerrit ACLs with new cores" | 15:09 |
| bnemec | I got Zane added to oslo.service. Because of the change to Moises' proposed status that got delayed until this week. | 15:10 |
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| bnemec | dhellmann: You were going to update the ACL for the latter? | 15:11 |
| bnemec | (assuming no objections, of course) | 15:11 |
| bnemec | Okay, someone will take care of that when the time comes. | 15:13 |
| bnemec | #action add moguimar to core ACL after review period ends | 15:13 |
| bnemec | Which I think is soon. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | And that was it for action items. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | #topic PTG planning etherpad | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning etherpad (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:14 | |
| bnemec | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-stein-ptg-planning | 15:14 |
| bnemec | I was wondering this morning if there's any common code for the upgrade status goal that should live in Oslo. | 15:15 |
| bnemec | I haven't looked at the existing code in Nova though so TBD on that. | 15:16 |
| bnemec | Anyway, if you have anything to discuss feel free to add it to the etherpad. It's still pretty light right now. | 15:16 |
| bnemec | #topic Berlin Project Update and Onboarding | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Berlin Project Update and Onboarding (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:16 | |
| bnemec | Looking ahead, I got the request from the Foundation to let them know if we want to do a project update and onboarding session in Berlin. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | I have no idea whether I'm going yet though. | 15:17 |
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| bnemec | So I guess this is kind of a notification to start thinking about what, if anything, we would want to include in such sessions. | 15:18 |
| bnemec | Otherwise we can revisit this once travel plans are clearer. | 15:19 |
| bnemec | #topic Broken repos | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Broken repos (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:19 | |
| bnemec | Doug's patch bombs have exposed the fact that some of our repos are failing ci for various reasons. | 15:20 |
| bnemec | Mostly it's missing stestr migrations on the rocky branch. | 15:20 |
| bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/587987 | 15:20 |
| bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/588046 | 15:20 |
| bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/588060 | 15:21 |
| bnemec | That's oslo.cache, context, and reports. | 15:21 |
| bnemec | I have on my list that concurrency is also broken, but I think that was the bandit issue. | 15:21 |
| bnemec | And that's fixed: https://review.openstack.org/592665 | 15:22 |
| bnemec | So please review the stestr migration backports to unblock those repos. | 15:23 |
| bnemec | #action review stestr migration backports | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | bnemec : sorry, I got pulled away, yes, I can add moguimar to the core team | 15:23 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Thanks | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | I'll do that today if you think we're ready, or I can wait until a week has passed from my update email (that should be Wednesday) | 15:24 |
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| bnemec | I'm okay with today. I don't anticipate any objections and if somone does strongly disagree with adding him we can always undo the change while that discussion happens. | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | done | 15:28 |
| bnemec | thanks | 15:28 |
| bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:29 | |
| bnemec | Since most of these are feature reviews and I'd rather avoid merging any major features until final releases are done I'm going to punt a bit on this one. | 15:30 |
| bnemec | I just WIP'd a couple of patches in the list that needed it. | 15:30 |
| bnemec | Once final releases are done we can look more seriously at merging features since the risk of backport pain is lower then. | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:31 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:31 | |
| bnemec | Going once... | 15:33 |
| jungleboyj | bnemec: Sorry. Got pulled away. | 15:33 |
| * dhellmann has nothing this week except to ask for reviews on those python3-first job patches | 15:34 | |
| jungleboyj | I am pretty sure I will be in Berlin. | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | Have verbal confirmation at least. | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | So, if you need help, let me know. | 15:34 |
| bnemec | jungleboyj: Great, thanks! | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | bnemec: No problem. | 15:34 |
| bnemec | I'm expecting to be there, but I haven't actually talked to anyone about it yet so that's pure speculation. | 15:35 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Sounds good. | 15:35 |
| * bnemec hasn't talked to his manager in about a month | 15:35 | |
| bnemec | dhellmann: I had an action item for that earlier. | 15:35 |
| bnemec | There are a few that were blocked on broken repos too, so there is also an action item to review those fixes. | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | yes, good on both counts | 15:37 |
| bnemec | Okay, anything else before we wrap it up? | 15:38 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from me. Unless you can clone me or invent a time machine. | 15:38 |
| bnemec | I'm sure future me will chime in any moment... | 15:39 |
| bnemec | Guess not. :-) | 15:40 |
| bnemec | Thanks for joining everyone! | 15:40 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 15:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 20 15:40:16 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-08-20-15.00.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-08-20-15.00.txt | 15:40 |
| jungleboyj | *sadness* | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-08-20-15.00.log.html | 15:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: Avoid logging passwords on connection events https://review.openstack.org/593691 | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/devstack-plugin-kafka master: import zuul job settings from project-config https://review.openstack.org/588685 | 18:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/stevedore master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job https://review.openstack.org/591199 | 19:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: Fix the coverage tox tests https://review.openstack.org/593892 | 19:21 |
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| efried | ō/ | 19:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.service master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job https://review.openstack.org/591194 | 19:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Skips signal handling on Windows https://review.openstack.org/593897 | 19:49 |
| efried | bnemec, dhellmann: I was chatting with cdent about adding uuidsentinel to oslo, and we're batting around whether it would make sense for it to be in oslo_utils.uuidutils or in oslotest. Thoughts? | 19:53 |
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| bnemec | efried: If it's only for testing purposes I think I'd lean toward oslotest. That way it doesn't end up in the public api of a runtime library. | 20:03 |
| bnemec | Although we do have test fixtures for some of the libraries that live in the library itself, so there's precedent for the other way. | 20:03 |
| bnemec | But users have a knack for finding obscure parts of a library and using it in a way you didn't intend. :-) | 20:04 |
| efried | bnemec: I can't see a reason for it to be used outside of test, but I didn't think about it too hard. uuidutils seemed appropriate because a) the impl (at least the current one) uses uuidutils; and b) it's... uhh... a UUID util. | 20:07 |
| efried | bnemec: Using it in a way it wasn't intended is the beauty of code, nah? :) | 20:07 |
| bnemec | efried: Until we break it because it's a use case we don't test. :-) | 20:08 |
| bnemec | I don't have strong feelings about it though. | 20:09 |
| bnemec | It's a pretty small and simple piece of code so I don't anticipate a lot of maintenance headaches regardless of where we put it. | 20:10 |
| bnemec | Although I know dhellmann had some concerns about thread safety and such. | 20:10 |
| cdent | if there are concerns about thready safety, that argues in favor of it being oslotest | 20:17 |
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| cdent | efried: ^ | 20:28 |
| efried | ack | 20:28 |
| efried | is there a problem with oslotest importing oslo_utils? | 20:28 |
| * cdent doesn't know | 20:29 | |
| dhellmann | efried : yes, I think that would introduce a circular dependency | 20:31 |
| efried | dhellmann: Which is probably why nova's uuidsentinel does the import "locally". | 20:31 |
| dhellmann | probably | 20:31 |
| dhellmann | well, there it wouldn't matter | 20:31 |
| dhellmann | nova depends on both utils and test | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | if utils depends on test we can't have test depend on utils, too | 20:32 |
| efried | Does utils depend on test? | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | it does via test-requirements.txt | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | so yes | 20:32 |
| efried | So thread safety is not something I'm super conversant with; how hard would it be to make uuidsentinel threadsafe? | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | adding some locks around the uuid generation ought to do it | 20:33 |
| dhellmann | or a lock even | 20:33 |
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