Monday, 2018-08-27

openstackgerritwangxiyuan proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: [WIP]Add limit check func  https://review.openstack.org/59652001:27
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openstackgerritwangxiyuan proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: [WIP]Add limit check func  https://review.openstack.org/59652008:20
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: Use default exchange for direct messaging  https://review.openstack.org/59666108:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/automaton master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59117511:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.i18n master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59118411:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59118111:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.serialization master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59119311:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.cache master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59117911:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/debtcollector master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59117611:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.context master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59118211:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59117711:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.db master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59118311:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.concurrency master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59118011:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.vmware master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59119711:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.versionedobjects master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59119611:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.privsep master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59119012:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.utils master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59119512:10
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openstackgerritChuck Short proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Replace assertRaisesRegexp with assertRaisesRegex  https://review.openstack.org/59673213:48
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dhellmannstephenfin : you're right, it wouldn't hurt to have a release note for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590066/14:11
stephenfindhellmann: Should I put one together?14:13
dhellmannif you have a few minutes, sure14:13
dhellmannmaybe add Wei Tie as a reviewer just as a heads-up14:14
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: Add release note for fix to bug 1786306  https://review.openstack.org/59675514:22
openstackbug 1786306 in PBR "pbr doesn't work when there's subdirectory in url " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786306 - Assigned to Wei T (nuaafe)14:22
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/oslotest master: WIP: mock: Makes _AutospecMagicMock a subclass of _AutospecMock  https://review.openstack.org/59675814:24
dhellmannstephenfin14:30
dhellmannoops14:30
dhellmannstephenfin : can you mix italics and link markup like that? `*pip* ..`_14:31
dhellmannunless they've changed it, that will come out with the * in the link title text14:31
stephenfinAh, correct. Other way round14:31
stephenfinGood spot14:31
dhellmannI think it's fine to just have it  be a link, without extra markup14:32
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stephenfinYeah, I'll do that14:33
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: Add release note for fix to bug 1786306  https://review.openstack.org/59675514:33
openstackbug 1786306 in PBR "pbr doesn't work when there's subdirectory in url " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786306 - Assigned to Wei T (nuaafe)14:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr master: Move pbr-installation jobs in-tree  https://review.openstack.org/57157114:39
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bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 27 15:01:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims15:01
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jungleboyjKind of here.15:01
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bnemec#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting15:03
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bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:04
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bnemecNothing that I'm aware of from last week.15:05
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bnemec#topic Releases15:06
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bnemecWe released castellan last week as an FFE.15:06
bnemecOtherwise that was it.15:07
bnemecI guess now that we're past the rc date we can start releasing stein?15:07
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kgiustibnemec: there are a few deprecations that are due to land15:08
kgiustibnemec: they need to be done earlier rather than later15:08
kgiustiI'm assuming it's ok to start that process now on master, no?15:09
bnemeckgiusti: deprecations or removals?15:09
kgiustibnemec: gah - deprecated things that are due for removal, sorry15:09
kgiustibnemec: remove them now?15:09
openstackgerritChuck Short proposed openstack/oslo.privsep master: Replace assertRaisesRegexp with assertRaisesRegex  https://review.openstack.org/59679315:10
bnemeckgiusti: Yeah, that's good to do early.15:10
kgiustiok thanks15:11
bnemecAnd I'll take a todo to figure out if we're good to start releasing stein versions of things.15:13
bnemec#action bnemec check if we can release stein libraries15:13
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:14
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bnemec"Review patches listed in http://paste.openstack.org/show/727932/"15:14
bnemecI believe we got through some of them, at least.15:14
bnemecHave spent a lot of time chasing broken repos though.15:15
bnemecWe made progress on that too, fortunately.15:15
dhellmannhere's a new list, it's much shorter:15:15
dhellmann#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/72883215:15
dhellmannlooks like 23 left, if I'm doing math right15:15
bnemecOkay, thanks.15:16
bnemec#action review patches listed in http://paste.openstack.org/show/728832/15:16
bnemec"add moguimar to core ACL after review period ends"15:17
bnemecDone15:17
bnemec"review stestr migration backports"15:18
bnemecI have one more that still needs to go in.15:18
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/588060/15:18
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bnemecOh, there's also one for taskflow.15:19
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594439/15:19
bnemecSo let's get those landed.15:20
bnemecOtherwise that was it for action items.15:20
bnemec#topic PTG planning etherpad15:21
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bnemec#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-stein-ptg-planning15:21
dhellmannbnemec : it looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594439/2 depends on a patch I rolled into another one, so it might need a rebase15:21
bnemecThis is probably the final reminder of that.15:21
bnemecdhellmann: Those two actually work as plain backports without combining anything.15:22
dhellmannlooking at the "related changes" list, it appears to be stacked in a series?15:23
bnemec(at least I think they were both passing)15:23
dhellmannsorry, I didn't notice there was a literal depends-on too15:23
dhellmannthe depends-on links to a master patch15:23
dhellmannthat has been merged15:23
dhellmannso I'm talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591245/115:24
bnemecOh, I should have removed that.15:24
bnemecAlthough it should be a noop since it's stacked on the backport of the master patch.15:24
dhellmannso we want that one instead of my jumbo patch?15:24
bnemecIt feels a little cleaner if we don't have to squash patches.15:25
dhellmannI guess it does pass, so +215:25
dhellmannagreed15:25
bnemecApparently the stestr migration isn't strictly necessary for this repo, but I think it's a good thing to do anyway.15:25
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bnemecOkay, I approved the pydot backport too so that should land now.15:26
bnemecThanks15:26
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bnemecI think that takes care of the broken repos topic too.15:27
bnemecThere may be others, but we'll fix them as we find them.15:28
bnemec#topic PTG team photo15:28
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bnemecSpecifically, does anyone want to do one?15:28
bnemecI don't think we have in the past for this team, but I got the email about signing up last week.15:28
dhellmannI'll join in if we do one, but won't push folks to do it if there's not much interest15:29
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bnemecI'm not much of a picture person, so I probably won't sign us up unless someone specifically asks. :-)15:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/devstack-plugin-pika master: import zuul job settings from project-config  https://review.openstack.org/58868615:30
dhellmannmaybe we can get some body doubles to stand in for us15:30
bnemecI like that plan. :-D15:32
bnemecAnyway, contact me if you want a team picture from the PTG and I can ask about open time slots.15:32
bnemec#topic VMT?15:33
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bnemecThis came up last week.15:33
bnemecApparently the Oslo projects aren't vulnerability managed by the OpenStack VMT.15:33
bnemecI can't remember if there was a reason for that or if it was just an oversight.15:33
dhellmannI imagine that initially they focused on the services15:34
bnemecIt _seems_ like we would want to be managed.15:34
dhellmannI agree, if they have the capacity to do it15:34
bnemecThe services are only as secure as the libraries they use.15:35
bnemecOkay, I'll look into whether they would be willing to take us on.15:35
dhellmannyeah, we may just need to ask15:35
bnemec#action bnemec to check with VMT about Oslo libraries15:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/devstack-plugin-zmq master: import zuul job settings from project-config  https://review.openstack.org/59598815:35
bnemec#topic uuidsentinel15:36
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bnemecThis spawned quite the mailing list thread, so I thought I'd bring it up here in case we wanted to pull some more people into the meeting and have a more direct conversation.15:37
dhellmannsorry for throwing a wrench in that right before taking a day off15:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/devstack-plugin-pika master: import zuul job settings from project-config  https://review.openstack.org/59598715:38
dhellmannit seems like the main feature of this thing is the simple API, so making a fixture would make it harder to use15:38
dhellmannso we have 2 ways to handle the global15:38
dhellmann1. we take the class, and nova keeps the global. The benefit there is adopting it in nova wouldn't require so many updates to imports. I'm not sure how much of a real benefit that is.15:39
dhellmann2. we take the class and add a global. That makes it easier to document how to use it and the adoption can just import the instance from oslo.utils15:40
dhellmannI'm not counting the idea of adding the global to sys.modules because I don't want us to do that.15:40
bnemecI guess 1 would be like i18n, where the classes live in oslo but each project has an integration module.15:40
dhellmannyeah15:40
dhellmannthat seems heavy for this case15:41
dhellmannthere's no special configuration to do, like in i18n15:41
bnemecYeah15:41
bnemecI guess I'm more comfortable with the global if it's in oslotest so it can't accidentally be abused in production code.15:42
bnemecMock has this pattern too, but AIUI mock is only used for testing.15:43
bnemec(although I've been wrong about that kind of thing before)15:43
dhellmannok, I guess I can go along with putting it in oslotest15:44
bnemecI know Eric wanted it in utils because of uuidutils, but the fact that they share a name isn't a strong technical argument to me.15:46
bnemecoslo.utils is a runtime library and this is a test module.15:46
dhellmannI don't think we want oslotest to depend on oslo.utils, so if we reimplement this to just call the uuid module directly that should be ok15:46
bnemecThere's precedent to have test fixtures in runtime libs, but if we're not going to do this as a fixture then I'm less comfortable with it.15:47
dhellmannyeah15:47
bnemecOh, that's right.  There was the dependency thing too.15:47
dhellmannI guess we could also put it into oslo_utils.fixture15:47
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dhellmannso either a new module in oslotest or oslo_utils.fixture works for me15:50
dhellmannI don't have a very strong opinion about either15:50
dhellmannI would probably lean slightly towards the latter15:50
bnemecI suppose we could add it as a fixture but also provide the global for projects that are okay with that pattern?15:51
dhellmannoh, I meant just add the global in oslo_utils.fixture as a way to indicate that it's test code15:51
dhellmannso take all of efried's code and put it in that module and then nova's tests can import the instance of the global from there15:52
bnemecYeah, I'm just thinking that if we do both then we don't force that choice on anyone.15:52
dhellmannsure, though I can't imagine anyone using the more cumbersome API if they have the easy one15:52
openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack/oslo.tools master: Remove spamaps from pings  https://review.openstack.org/59682815:52
bnemecWell, some people really dislike globals. :-)15:52
dhellmannsure15:52
dhellmannwe could always add the fixture later if someone wants it15:53
dhellmannor now if you do :-)15:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.tools master: Remove spamaps from pings  https://review.openstack.org/59682815:53
bnemecNo, I don't feel anywhere near that strongly about it.15:53
dhellmannI jumped in early with an opinion, but it's not very strongly held, so as long as folks are happy with the thing it's fine with me15:54
bnemecThis seems like a pretty harmless use of globals.15:54
dhellmannyeah15:54
dhellmannmy anti-pattern detector has a hair trigger :-)15:54
bnemecI've never really believed in absolute rules for programming.15:54
bnemecIt's a code smell for sure.15:54
SpamapSI have one absolute rule for programming. No rules. Ever.15:54
bnemec:-)15:55
phuongnh:)15:55
bnemecdhellmann: Do you want to propose that on the list then?15:56
* bnemec can't remember exactly where that discussion ended up15:56
bnemecOther than the proposal to resurrect incubator. ;-)15:57
dhellmannso I'll propose we add eric's code to oslo_utils.fixture?15:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.service master: Skips signal handling on Windows  https://review.openstack.org/59389715:57
bnemecYeah15:57
dhellmannok15:58
bnemec#action dhellmann to respond to uuidsentinel thread15:59
bnemecOkay, we're just about out of time15:59
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:59
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dhellmann#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/133861.html15:59
bnemecI guess the one thing would be that next Monday is a US holiday, so I won't be around to run the meeting.16:00
bnemecI suspect a lot of our team won't be either.16:00
dhellmannI will be off16:00
bnemecSo I'm thinking we just cancel?16:00
dhellmannwfm16:00
kgiusti+116:01
bnemecThe PTG is the next week so we'll just have to finish any last-minute scheduling asynchronously.16:01
bnemec#action bnemec cancel oslo meeting for next week16:01
bnemecOkay, we're over time.  Thanks for joining everyone!16:02
bnemec#endmeeting16:02
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phuongnhhi bnemec, I am Phuong from Fujitsu, I and my colleague will continue maintaining the "Handle config mapping changes" patchset16:03
phuongnhhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/526314/16:03
dhellmannhi, phuongnh16:03
phuongnhbnemec: could you please tell me what should we do next? Updating spec based on your and dhellmann's comments?16:04
phuongnhhi dhellmann16:04
dhellmannI still need to review that for you. I apologize that it has taken me so long to respond.16:04
bnemecIt's a big review.  I had a hard time getting through the whole thing in one sitting.16:05
phuongnhoh, sorry dhellmann, it is not to remind you, I would like to know which action after that16:05
dhellmannphuongnh : I think right now you are waiting for us and there is nothing for you to do, yet.16:06
phuongnhdhellmann: thanks, I would like to get this feature merged soon so if I need to do anything, please tell me16:08
dhellmannphuongnh : I definitely will. I will try to review things this week.16:08
phuongnhbnemec, dhellmann: thank you a lot16:09
ducnv_hi bnemec, dhellmann I'm Phuong's colleague. Thanks you a lot16:11
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dhellmannhi, ducnv_16:12
ducnv_I look forward to receiving your review soon , dhellmann :))16:15
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/oslo.utils master: UUID sentinel  https://review.openstack.org/59417916:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow stable/rocky: Add pydot test dependency  https://review.openstack.org/59124517:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config master: Replace assertRaisesRegexp with assertRaisesRegex  https://review.openstack.org/59673217:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow stable/rocky: Switch to use stestr for unit test  https://review.openstack.org/59443917:39
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dhellmannbnemec : after I abandoned all of the redundant python3-first patches for oslo repos, we're down to 3 left to land: https://review.openstack.org/588780 https://review.openstack.org/591801 and https://review.openstack.org/59600817:46
dhellmannkgiusti : should we just remove the failing test jobs for the kafka plugin in stable/queens ? https://review.openstack.org/59180117:46
bnemecdhellmann: Ah, nice.17:47
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dhellmannyeah, I wondered why that number was still so high17:48
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/oslo.utils master: UUID sentinel  https://review.openstack.org/59417917:50
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: Add release note for fix to bug 1786306  https://review.openstack.org/59675517:51
openstackbug 1786306 in PBR "pbr doesn't work when there's subdirectory in url " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786306 - Assigned to Wei T (nuaafe)17:51
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/oslo.log master: Filter args dict in JSONFormatter  https://review.openstack.org/59685017:54
bnemecdhellmann: kgiusti: ^17:54
bnemecI'm going to make those bugs public now that we've got all the patches up.17:55
kgiustidhellmann: sorry in meeting: yes it's just noise ^^^ ansmith agreed?17:56
dhellmannkgiusti : ok, I'll update that patch to drop the jobs that fail17:56
kgiustiah, crap - I have another meeting...17:57
dhellmannwe have to have some test running there to ever land a patch on that branch, so I guess I'll leave bashat317:57
kgiustibnemec: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1787214+(status:open+OR+status:merged)17:57
kgiustibnemec: these are the backports of that fix that need to land as well - need some reviews (hint hint)17:58
dhellmannthere are a lot of non-voting jobs on some of our stable branches; we should clean those up17:58
bnemeckgiusti: Yep, thanks.  I hadn't seen that the backports were up.17:58
kgiustidhellmann: there are some non-voting jobs that really should be voting - esp in the amqp1 driver case17:58
kgiustidhellmann: need to run - back in an hour fyi17:59
dhellmannkgiusti : ack, "clean up" not "remove"17:59
bnemeckgiusti: I think the backport pulled in some comments that don't make sense on the stable branches.18:01
bnemec(I left a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595338)18:02
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/oslo.utils master: UUID sentinel  https://review.openstack.org/59417918:11
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openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging stable/ocata: Avoid logging passwords on connection events  https://review.openstack.org/59534318:41
openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging stable/pike: Avoid logging passwords on connection events  https://review.openstack.org/59534118:42
openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging stable/queens: Avoid logging passwords on connection events  https://review.openstack.org/59533818:43
kgiustibnemec: removed the offending comment from ocata, pike, and queens patches18:45
bnemeckgiusti: Thanks!18:50
dhellmanndansmith : if you have a second, I'd like to talk about the uuidsentinel thing. I think there's some detail I'm missing.19:07
dansmithdhellmann: a detail you're missing with the current version of the patch or the previous one?19:08
dhellmannif you're happy with the current version, then I am19:08
dhellmannI thought you were saying that importing an instance wouldn't work19:08
dansmithdhellmann: aside from the long import line, I think the current version behaves like it should19:08
dhellmannok, cool19:08
dansmithwe're not supposed to be able to import an instance, so I dunno if pep8 will allow us to do this19:08
dhellmannyou can tell flake8 to ignore that rule for specific symbols19:09
dhellmannwe had to do that with the i18n stuff19:09
dansmithack19:09
dhellmanndansmith : a +1 from you would help ensure that's approved quickly19:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr master: Add release note for fix to bug 1786306  https://review.openstack.org/59675519:44
openstackbug 1786306 in PBR "pbr doesn't work when there's subdirectory in url " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786306 - Assigned to Wei T (nuaafe)19:44
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openstackgerritAndy Smith proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: Remove the deprecated ZeroMQ driver  https://review.openstack.org/59688220:03
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/oslotest master: WIP: mock: Fixes missing _autospec key issue  https://review.openstack.org/59689220:45
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mriedemis there a way to refer to a config option group like :oslo.config:option:`placement` but need to tell the tooling that it's not assumed to be in the DEFAULT group?21:00
mriedemi.e. i'm getting KeyError: 'DEFAULT.placement'21:01
mriedembut [placement] is the group name21:01
mriedemoh i see21:02
mriedem:oslo.config:group:`placement`21:02
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/oslo.service stable/rocky: Add Python 3.5 jobs  https://review.openstack.org/59689721:09
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tommylikehuhey, bnemec, could you review these patches again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59356122:43
tommylikehuhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/593556/, thanks:)22:43
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bnemectommylikehu: It's the end of my day here, but I'll take a look tomorrow.22:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.service stable/rocky: import zuul job settings from project-config  https://review.openstack.org/59600823:37

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