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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.log master: Add 'levelkey' + 'tbkey' params https://review.openstack.org/632955 | 08:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/tooz master: Remove grpcio from requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/640695 | 09:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/oslo.cache master: add python 3.7 unit test job https://review.openstack.org/637699 | 11:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware master: Change python3.5 job to python3.7 job on Stein+ https://review.openstack.org/610648 | 13:08 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow master: add python 3.7 unit test job https://review.openstack.org/610509 | 13:12 |
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stephenfin | bnemec: Do you know if oslo.log uses UTC or local time by default? | 14:49 |
bnemec | stephenfin: I think local. I mostly say that because the logs in my deployments are local though. | 14:58 |
bnemec | It's possible something is overriding the oslo.log default. | 14:58 |
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bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 4 15:00:09 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:00 |
moguimar | o/ | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, haypo | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for hberaud, jd__, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_ | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for moguimar, njohnston, raildo, redrobot, sileht, sreshetnyak, stephenfin | 15:00 |
bnemec | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek | 15:00 |
stephenfin | o/ | 15:00 |
bnemec | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:00 |
hberaud | o/ | 15:00 |
ansmith | o/ | 15:00 |
njohnston | o/ | 15:01 |
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bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:02 | |
redrobot | \o | 15:03 |
bnemec | I think the big thing on our side was that we merged a fix for oslo.cache + py3 + eventlet. | 15:03 |
njohnston | nothing new from Neutron that I am aware of | 15:03 |
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bnemec | I was able to get that released before non-client library freeze too (sort of), so that type of environment should work in Stein now. | 15:04 |
bnemec | Otherwise things should be pretty quiet since we're in feature freeze now. | 15:05 |
jungleboyj | o/ Kind of here. | 15:05 |
bnemec | jungleboyj: It's Monday morning. "Kind of here" is about the best anyone can expect. ;-) | 15:06 |
bnemec | #topic Releases | 15:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:06 | |
jungleboyj | :-) | 15:06 |
bnemec | There were a lot of them last week. | 15:06 |
bnemec | I released basically everything that had any pending changes, even if they don't normally require releasing (docs, test changes, etc.) | 15:07 |
bnemec | The reason being that a bunch of our stable branches got broken last cycle because they didn't get some necessary test fixes when we branched. | 15:07 |
bnemec | And that was because they were never released. | 15:07 |
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bnemec | Also, we want the stable branch docs to be correct. | 15:07 |
bnemec | Be aware that we are now in non-client library freeze, which includes basically all of Oslo. | 15:08 |
kgiusti | o/ (sorry - late due to snow-pocalypse) | 15:08 |
bnemec | So if there's anything we need to merge, it will require an exception from the requirements team. | 15:08 |
bnemec | Check out smcginnis's last release email for details. | 15:09 |
bnemec | Or just ping me if there's something you think needs to be released. | 15:09 |
bnemec | Otherwise that's probably it for releases this cycle. | 15:09 |
bnemec | Nice work, everyone! | 15:10 |
bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:10 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:10 | |
bnemec | "bnemec to look at hberaud's oslo.cache fix" | 15:10 |
hberaud | https://review.openstack.org/634457 | 15:10 |
bnemec | I assume that was the pymemcache one, which I did look at. | 15:11 |
bnemec | So this was done. | 15:11 |
hberaud | yep | 15:11 |
bnemec | I want to discuss it a bit more later, but there's a separate topic on the agenda for that. | 15:11 |
bnemec | "kgiusti and gsantomaggio to investigate OSA rabbitmq_policies" | 15:11 |
bnemec | Any update on this one? | 15:11 |
kgiusti | bnemec: there's a patch outstanding (checking status...) | 15:12 |
kgiusti | bnemec: merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639299/ | 15:13 |
bnemec | If a patch was proposed then I'm calling it done. :-) | 15:13 |
bnemec | Even better! | 15:13 |
bnemec | "kgiusti document singleton pattern" | 15:13 |
bnemec | You're up again. :-) | 15:13 |
gsantomaggio | did it! | 15:13 |
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kgiusti | bnemec: not done - is this something we can do now that the freeze is in place? | 15:14 |
bnemec | kgiusti: If it's just a doc change we can merge it, but it won't make the Stein docs unless we either have to release oslo.messaging again for a critical fix or we backport it after branching. | 15:15 |
bnemec | kgiusti: Is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639152/ related to this? | 15:15 |
kgiusti | bnemec: no - that's Something Completely Different | 15:16 |
kgiusti | bnemec: I never understood why rabbit driver opens a new connection for each listener - restored an old comment to the code that explains why | 15:16 |
bnemec | Okay, thanks. | 15:17 |
gsantomaggio | wait | 15:17 |
gsantomaggio | this is not RAbbitMQ | 15:17 |
gsantomaggio | this is Py-AMQP | 15:17 |
gsantomaggio | or oslo-messagging ( I don't know yet ) | 15:17 |
kgiusti | gsantomaggio: yes - I mean the rabbit _driver_ - that's oslo.messaging and it's the code that actually opens the extra conns | 15:17 |
kgiusti | gsantomaggio: something we can fix :) | 15:18 |
gsantomaggio | one of the problem is about the connection | 15:18 |
gsantomaggio | in py-amqp is not thread-safe | 15:18 |
gsantomaggio | so the easier way is to open one connection per thread | 15:19 |
kgiusti | gsantomaggio: yup. that's how the other drivers are designed: one thread dedicated to a URL (socket) | 15:20 |
gsantomaggio | and also another problem is about the basic_ack ( normally should be thread-safe) but in py-amqp is not thread-safe | 15:20 |
gsantomaggio | @kgiusti go it | 15:21 |
gsantomaggio | @kgiusti got it | 15:21 |
kgiusti | gsantomaggio: feast your eyes upon this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1776492 :) | 15:21 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1776492 in oslo.messaging "can oslo_messaging support basic.return " [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:21 |
bnemec | Okay, so there's more to be done here. | 15:21 |
kgiusti | gsantomaggio: nearly a year old :( | 15:22 |
bnemec | As long as it's on someone's todo list that's good enough for the meeting. :-) | 15:22 |
bnemec | We can certainly follow up on this though. | 15:22 |
bnemec | "moguimar to follow up on status of py35 in the gate" | 15:22 |
bnemec | This was done. | 15:22 |
moguimar | o/ | 15:23 |
bnemec | Let me find a link because it's worth taking a look at. | 15:23 |
bnemec | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/003202.html | 15:23 |
bnemec | This is actually going to come up in a later topic too, so we'll move on. | 15:24 |
bnemec | That was it for action items from last week. | 15:24 |
bnemec | #topic Oslo Forum Sessions | 15:24 |
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bnemec | I didn't start an etherpad for this because I don't know that we need to have any Oslo-dedicated forum sessions. | 15:24 |
bnemec | I did propose an oslo.limit topic on the Keystone etherpad though. | 15:25 |
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bnemec | If you do have something that you think would benefit from discussion at the Forum, please let me know ASAP though. | 15:25 |
moguimar | the Castellan guys are planing to do something I think | 15:25 |
moguimar | redrobot ^ | 15:26 |
bnemec | Cool. | 15:26 |
redrobot | \o | 15:26 |
redrobot | Yeah, There were a few topics in Castellan that need discussion. Not sure if Forum or PTG would be best though? | 15:27 |
bnemec | Yeah, I'll start a new PTG etherpad sometime in the near future. | 15:27 |
bnemec | Maybe I should just go ahead and do that now and we can figure it out from there. | 15:27 |
bnemec | It'll be easier to have the discussion if we have the topics for discussion written down ahead of time | 15:28 |
bnemec | #action bnemec to start PTG/Forum topic etherpad | 15:28 |
bnemec | #topic Bionic Migration | 15:29 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Bionic Migration (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:29 | |
bnemec | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/003129.html | 15:29 |
bnemec | We have about a month before all of the legacy jobs switch over to bionic. | 15:30 |
bnemec | I'm not actually sure if we have much in the way of legacy jobs in Oslo at this point. | 15:30 |
bnemec | Most of our repos are using exclusively templates from the central job repo, and I assume those are all v3-native now. | 15:31 |
bnemec | So it may be that we don't actually have much to do on this. | 15:31 |
bnemec | When I added it to the agenda I was thinking we'd need to push test patches for basically every Oslo repo, but it may be more of an investigation thing instead. | 15:32 |
bnemec | Just verify that our repos aren't using legacy jobs, and only push test patches for the ones that are. | 15:32 |
bnemec | Which may be none. | 15:32 |
bnemec | If anyone wants to dig into zuul configs, be my guest. :-) | 15:33 |
bnemec | Otherwise I'll try to poke at this sometime this week. | 15:33 |
bnemec | Oh, and on a bionic-related note: | 15:34 |
bnemec | I would prefer to hold off on the py35 job removal until after the migration is complete. | 15:34 |
bnemec | The reason being that until that happens, some projects will still be running Oslo code in the gate under py35. | 15:34 |
bnemec | While the unit test jobs don't provide perfect coverage, it's better than nothing and it doesn't cost a lot of resources. | 15:35 |
bnemec | So the main thing is not to merge py35-removal patches until after April 1st. | 15:36 |
bnemec | I'm even going to action that one to highlight it for anyone reading the meeting minutes. | 15:36 |
bnemec | #action Oslo cores to hold py35 removal patches until after Bionic legacy job migration on April 1 | 15:36 |
bnemec | No, this is not an April Fool's Day joke. ;-) | 15:37 |
bnemec | #topic pymemcache and oslo.cache | 15:37 |
*** openstack changes topic to "pymemcache and oslo.cache (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:37 | |
bnemec | This is mostly for hberaud and kmalloc. | 15:37 |
hberaud | on my side I guess I'm done and I'm waiting kmalloc review | 15:38 |
bnemec | Given that there seems to be some more investigation needed on this in terms of how it works on upgrade, I think we should hold off on this until Train. | 15:38 |
bnemec | Especially since we're in feature freeze and this would add a new dependency. | 15:38 |
hberaud | bnemec: yeah right | 15:39 |
bnemec | Plus we have my awful hack of a "fix" to the existing code that should unblock people using this in Stein. | 15:39 |
hberaud | lol | 15:39 |
bnemec | hberaud: Okay, just wanted to make sure we were on the same page about this. | 15:39 |
hberaud | yeah it's ok | 15:40 |
moguimar | guys, gotta drop sonner, cya o/ | 15:40 |
bnemec | hberaud: I do want to get it in early next cycle so we have lots of time to validate it before the next release. | 15:40 |
bnemec | moguimar: Thanks for joining | 15:40 |
hberaud | sure | 15:41 |
bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:43 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:43 | |
bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/610578 | 15:43 |
bnemec | I just approved it. :-) | 15:43 |
bnemec | We're pretty limited in what we can merge right now anyway, so we may skip this part of the meeting in future weeks. | 15:44 |
bnemec | A py37 job addition should be okay though. | 15:44 |
bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:44 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:44 | |
bnemec | Anything else this week? | 15:44 |
hberaud | Can some can add this to todo list => https://review.openstack.org/639661 ? | 15:44 |
hberaud | s/some/someone/ | 15:46 |
bnemec | hberaud: How critical is this? I'm not sure we could release it right now even if that merged. | 15:47 |
bnemec | pbr is an independent release project, but we generally still freeze them during feature freeze so we don't accidentally break the world. | 15:48 |
bnemec | Particularly for something like pbr that is used...everywhere. | 15:48 |
hberaud | bnemec: ack | 15:48 |
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bnemec | Which is not to say that we can't review the change. It may just have to wait a few weeks until we branch. | 15:50 |
bnemec | I probably need to look closer at the difference between a csv and multi field. | 15:50 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.cache master: add python 3.7 unit test job https://review.openstack.org/637699 | 15:51 |
hberaud | bnemec: ack | 15:51 |
bnemec | Okay, anything else? | 15:52 |
bnemec | Thanks for joining everyone! | 15:55 |
bnemec | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 4 15:55:16 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2019/oslo.2019-03-04-15.00.html | 15:55 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2019/oslo.2019-03-04-15.00.txt | 15:55 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2019/oslo.2019-03-04-15.00.log.html | 15:55 |
hberaud | o/ | 15:55 |
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gsantomaggio | the interesting thing is that olso uses channel with confirmation | 16:18 |
gsantomaggio | ``` | 16:19 |
gsantomaggio | # rabbitmqctl list_channels name confirm | grep true | tail -3 | 16:19 |
gsantomaggio | 192.168.111.11:63470 -> 192.168.111.12:5672 (1) true | 16:19 |
gsantomaggio | 192.168.111.11:63476 -> 192.168.111.12:5672 (1) true | 16:19 |
gsantomaggio | 192.168.111.11:63478 -> 192.168.111.12:5672 (1) true | 16:19 |
gsantomaggio | ``` | 16:19 |
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gsantomaggio | https://github.com/celery/py-amqp/blob/master/amqp/channel.py#L1789 | 16:24 |
gsantomaggio | py-amqp makes synchronous confirm_select, that should be asynchronous, at this point was easier to use the tx.transaction | 16:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/debtcollector master: add python 3.7 unit test job https://review.openstack.org/610578 | 17:29 |
openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: Fix error when keywords are defined as a list in cfg https://review.openstack.org/639661 | 17:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging stable/queens: Add release note for amqp library TLS/SSL error https://review.openstack.org/638733 | 19:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz master: add python 3.7 unit test job https://review.openstack.org/610652 | 21:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.privsep master: Add sample_default for thread_pool_size Opt https://review.openstack.org/639804 | 22:12 |
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