Monday, 2020-02-17

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rakhmerovhi, our "docs" CI job is broken seemingly because of the new oslo.config (8.0.0)07:03
rakhmerovhttps://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_613/707778/2/check/openstack-tox-docs/613d56b/job-output.txt07:03
rakhmerovraise ArgsAlreadyParsedError("cannot register CLI option")07:03
rakhmerovis it a known issue?07:03
rakhmerovwe're trying to understand how to fix it07:03
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hberaudrakhmerov: o/ I don't seen recent changes related to ArgsAlreadyParsedError on oslo.config... this feature exist since 5 years now and the last changes was introduced 2 years ago...09:12
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rakhmerovok09:23
hberaudrakhmerov: I got the same error by building the mistral doc with oslo.config 7.0.009:30
hberaudrakhmerov: so it's not related to oslo.config 8.0.009:31
hberaudrakhmerov: and same issue with oslo.config 6.12.009:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.serialization master: Deprecated the yamlutils module.  https://review.opendev.org/70763910:15
rakhmerovhberaud: yes, that's right10:30
rakhmerovwe've figured10:30
rakhmerovwe're making an analysis now to understand what breaks it10:30
rakhmerovthanks10:30
hberaudrakhmerov: you are welcome10:31
rakhmerovhberaud: seems like the reason is here: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.policy/commit/686aa238f921e8b6dff814d001690e15fa8ccea610:33
rakhmerovin oslo.policy 3.0.010:34
rakhmerovwith an older version of it it works10:34
hberaudrakhmerov: good to know10:34
hberaudmake sense10:34
hberaudbnemec: FYI ^^^^10:35
rakhmerovwe're wondering what we need to do10:35
rakhmerov:)10:35
rakhmerovwe can't probably simply exclude 3.0.0 (the requirements check won't pass)10:36
hberaudrakhmerov: yes ignore 3.0.0 could be a starting point10:38
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hberaudrakhmerov: please can you fill a bug against oslo.policy with the info that you've collected on your side to track this topic.11:08
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smcginnisrakhmerov, hberaud: Cinder is affected as well.13:48
smcginnisBut it did uncover that our docs job was not configured correctly at least.13:48
hberaudsmcginnis: thanks for the heads-up13:48
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hberaudsmcginnis: is it related to https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705866/ ?13:51
* hberaud don't think it is13:52
smcginnisI hadn't seen that one yet, but no, I don't think so.13:52
hberaudack13:52
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bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:01
bnemecCourtesy ping for bnemec, jungleboyj, moguimar, hberaud, stephenfin, kgiusti, johnsom, e0ne, redrobot, bcafarel15:01
bnemec#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting15:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb 17 15:01:45 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'15:01
jungleboyjo/15:02
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bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:04
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johnsomNothing from Octavia15:04
bnemecIt looks like there is an issue with my change in oslo.policy to parse cli args.15:05
smcginnisI wasn't clear if it was oslo.conf, oslo.policy, or both.15:05
bnemecIt's failing the upper-constraints tests so it probably won't affect anyone yet, but I see mistral ran into it anyway.15:05
jungleboyjNothing from Cinder.15:05
smcginnisCinder ran into it too.15:06
smcginnisOnly because we have a misconfigured job.15:06
johnsomAh, we got ping for some UC issues, but I haven’t looked at them yet. I will be doing that today.15:06
bnemecYeah, I'm looking into it. I thought I tested keystone with that change to make sure it wouldn't break consumers, but I may be wrong.15:07
moguimaro/15:08
moguimarBarbican is quiet too15:08
bnemecCool, thanks.15:10
bnemec#topic Releases15:10
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bnemeccmurphy|afk pointed out on Friday that we released a 1.0 of oslo.limit. We shouldn't have done that. :-(15:11
bnemecsmcginnis: I'm not sure what we can do about it at this point. We can't really roll back the versioning, right?15:12
hberaudoh sorry my bad15:12
smcginnisbnemec: No, but we can blacklist any versions that are known to cause issues.15:12
bnemecFor context, oslo.limit is still under heavy development and we haven't stabilized the api yet.15:12
smcginnisAh, just picking up context. Yeah, that's really... unfortunate.15:12
bnemechberaud: np. For future reference, when a library is still pre-1.0 a "major" version bump is just a bump to the feature component.15:13
bnemecSo probably 0.1.0 in this case.15:14
hberaudbnemec: ack15:14
bnemecI can start a mailing list thread too if it would help to get broader input.15:15
bnemecAt the very least it will let people know that oslo.limit isn't actually ready to be consumed yet.15:15
smcginnis++15:15
bnemec#action bnemec to send mail about oslo.limit 1.015:15
johnsomYeah, a release not comment would be good as well.15:16
bnemecOtherwise on the release front I see we're still doing py2 drop releases, so that's good.15:16
johnsomNot->note15:16
bnemecGood idea. hberaud, could you write a release note for oslo.limit? I'm thinking this probably belongs in the prelude so it's right at the top.15:18
hberaudbnemec: yes15:18
bnemecThanks15:19
bnemec#action hberaud to write release note for oslo.limit15:19
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:20
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bnemec"bnemec to set up doodle poll for meeting time"15:20
bnemecDone15:20
bnemec"Oslo contributors contact bnemec if they want to have an Oslo room at the PTG"15:20
bnemecNobody has done this yet, but that may just mean we don't need a room.15:20
bnemec"bnemec send email to the list about PTG"15:20
bnemecDone (I think...)15:20
bnemec"hberaud to rebase https://review.opendev.org/#/c/697693/"15:21
hberauddone15:21
hberaud(abandonned)15:21
bnemecSort of. :-)15:21
hberaud:)15:21
bnemecIt's off my review list which is what I care about. :-)15:21
bnemecThat's all the action items we had.15:22
bnemec#topic  Vancouver PTG15:22
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bnemecJust kept this on here as a reminder that if anyone thinks we might want a room in Vancouver they need to contact me ASAP.15:22
bnemecKeep in mind that it's probably easier to request a room and then cancel it later than to decide we need a room at the last minute.15:23
hberaud+115:23
bnemecSo if you even think you _might_ want an Oslo room I'll go ahead and request one. Otherwise we'll have to have Oslo discussions in other project rooms and/or schedule a floating room/table.15:25
bnemecThat's all I had on that.15:25
bnemec#topic  Meeting time poll15:26
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bnemec#link https://doodle.com/poll/zmyhrhewtes6x9ty15:26
bnemecA bunch of people have already filled this out, so thanks!15:26
bnemecUnfortunately it's looking...not great. There is not a lot of overlap between our schedules. :-/15:26
jungleboyjYeah, I saw that.15:27
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bnemecThe best option is probably Tue an hour earlier since that's the only time all of the cores are available at once, but it excludes two liaisons and is yellow for two cores.15:29
bnemecI might leave it open for another week and then we can discuss it in the meeting next week.15:30
bnemecIf you have any other thoughts on it, let me know.15:31
bnemec#topic Weekly Wayward Review15:32
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bnemecI just merged https://review.opendev.org/#/c/699659 so I'm calling this topic done. :-)15:33
hberaud:)15:33
bnemecThere are some older reviews for Oslo out there, but I need to take a closer look at them to figure out if they're really ready to go.15:34
bnemecNow that I'm probably back working on a regular basis again maybe I'll have time to do that.15:34
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:34
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bnemecAnd that's it for the scheduled stuff. Anything else this week?15:35
hberaudyes15:35
hberauddo you know if oslobot on oslo.tools is still useful?15:35
bnemecI didn't know we had a bot.15:35
bnemecWhat does it do?15:36
hberaudI made some cleaning and refactors on oslo.tools and I can't start him... maybe I missed something but the lib under the hood look broken...15:36
hberaudbnemec: this is some sort of IRC bot15:36
hberaudbnemec: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.tools/tree/master/oslobot15:37
bnemecAh, Josh wrote this years ago.15:37
hberaudyes15:37
bnemecI don't know that it was ever run, but it does sound useful.15:37
hberaudbut I can't run it even by using old versions of errbot15:37
bnemecA daily ping with the status of the periodic jobs would be very helpful in getting those visibility.15:38
bnemecAh, that would be a problem.15:38
bnemecIf it's not working then we either need to remove it or fix it.15:38
hberaudI tried to rewind version while but unsuccessfully15:38
bnemecI doubt I'm going to have time to look at it.15:40
hberaudalso another topic I plan to adapt https://github.com/openstack/rpm-packaging-tools/blob/master/tools/rpm-packaging-status.py to oslo (in oslo.tools) to generate some reports about our versions and delta with commits15:40
bnemecI guess we can schedule it for removal in $TIME_PERIOD and if someone fixes it before then we keep it.15:40
bnemecThat sounds like something we should have in the releases repo.15:41
hberaudok, I'll try to continue to debug it and if I fail then I will propose the removal15:41
bnemecSounds good.15:41
bnemec#action hberaud to investigate whether to fix or remove oslobot from oslo.tools15:42
bnemecWhat does the rpm-packaging script do that list_unreleased_changes doesn't?15:42
hberaudbnemec: you are right I guess it could duplicate some feature I need to check first15:44
hberaudbnemec: (I missed this tools)15:45
bnemecYeah, I need to take a look at documenting some of these processes officially. I have a local doc with notes for myself, but it's a cycle goal to get that stuff written down more officially.15:46
hberaudbnemec: do not hesitate to ping me if you need some help15:46
bnemecFWIW, when I do master releases I run these two commands:15:46
bnemec./tools/list_unreleased_changes.sh master $(.tox/venv/bin/list-deliverables --team oslo -r)15:46
bnemec./tools/list_unreleased_changes.sh master $(.tox/venv/bin/list-deliverables --team oslo -r --series independent)15:46
hberaudbnemec: thanks I take note15:47
bnemecOkay, anything else?15:47
hberaudnot on my hands15:48
bnemecSounds good. Thanks for joining everyone!15:50
bnemec#endmeeting15:50
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jungleboyjThanks.15:51
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Temporarily make namespace arg optional  https://review.opendev.org/70821216:45
bnemec^should fix the issues with oslo.policy 3.0.0.16:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.db master: gitignore: Add reno artefacts  https://review.opendev.org/69965917:02
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