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| openstackgerrit | norman shen proposed openstack/oslo.messaging stable/rocky: Use default exchange for direct messaging https://review.opendev.org/713153 | 00:40 |
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| bnemec | Running late again... | 15:02 |
| bnemec | Really late. 30 minute meeting is going on 50 and no signs of slowing down. :-( | 15:19 |
| bnemec | Done! | 15:22 |
| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:22 |
| bnemec | Courtesy ping for bnemec, jungleboyj, moguimar, hberaud, stephenfin, kgiusti, johnsom, e0ne, redrobot, bcafarel, smcginnis | 15:22 |
| bnemec | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:22 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 16 15:22:20 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:22 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:22 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 15:22 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 15:22 |
| johnsom | o/ lol | 15:22 |
| hberaud | o/ | 15:22 |
| johnsom | I guess it's been a Monday for me too, I didn't notice | 15:22 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:23 |
| bnemec | They keep adding more people to my Monday status meeting downstream, so it keeps taking longer and longer. :-/ | 15:23 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:23 |
| bnemec | On the plus side, it will be better once Europe goes DST and we add an hour gap between these two meetings. | 15:25 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:25 | |
| johnsom | Nothing from the Octavia team today | 15:26 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from Cinder. | 15:27 |
| bnemec | I'm not coming up with anything objectionable that we did last week, but last week was also a bit drama-filled for me so I may be forgetting something. :-) | 15:27 |
| jungleboyj | Drama filled? I think that describes life in general right now. | 15:28 |
| bnemec | Yeah, this was piled on top of the "regular" drama that's going on. | 15:28 |
| bnemec | I would really like life to be boring for a while. | 15:29 |
| jungleboyj | Best of luck with that. | 15:29 |
| bnemec | #topic Releases | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:30 | |
| bnemec | Pretty sure I forgot to do these last week. Will try to rectify that this week. | 15:31 |
| bnemec | So I guess not much to say on this topic. | 15:31 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:31 | |
| bnemec | "bnemec to follow up on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689482/" | 15:31 |
| bnemec | Let's see, did I actually do it this time? | 15:31 |
| bnemec | Hey, I did! | 15:32 |
| bnemec | That was the only action item last week, so hooray! | 15:32 |
| bnemec | #topic Oslo core security team | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Oslo core security team (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:32 | |
| hberaud | lol | 15:32 |
| bnemec | You may have seen my email about this last week. | 15:32 |
| bnemec | There is an oslo-coresec group on Launchpad that is automatically notified of any security bugs in Oslo projects. | 15:33 |
| bnemec | It was last updated ~6 years ago and I believe there are only two active contributors to Oslo left on it. | 15:34 |
| bnemec | I've removed everyone else since we don't want to be notifying them of private security bugs if they don't need to know. | 15:34 |
| bnemec | However, the main reason I wanted to bring it up in the meeting is I am looking for volunteers to be on the team. | 15:35 |
| bnemec | There's not a whole lot to it. We don't get so many security bugs that it is a big time commitment. | 15:35 |
| smcginnis | bnemec: You can put me on the list. Not sure I will be able to do much with it, but willing to help out if something big comes up. | 15:35 |
| bnemec | Fair warning, if I don't get volunteers I'll probably just start adding Oslo cores so we have _someone_ to look at things. ;-) | 15:35 |
| bnemec | smcginnis: Great, thanks! | 15:36 |
| bnemec | Mostly it's just so we have someone who can pre-review patches before they get proposed to public Gerrit. | 15:36 |
| johnsom | lol, volun-told | 15:36 |
| bnemec | Generally speaking, the coresec team isn't on the hook to fix every security bug that comes in. | 15:36 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I can be on the list, again, I don't have a lot of spare cycles, but can try to help | 15:37 |
| johnsom | VMT should do most of the paperwork right? (behind on that e-mail thread) | 15:38 |
| bnemec | Yeah, in 6 years I've never had to fill out a CVE disclosure or anything. | 15:39 |
| bnemec | And I was actually on two coresec teams for most of that time. | 15:39 |
| johnsom | Nice | 15:39 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: Add me as well - I really need to work on my insecurities... | 15:39 |
| bnemec | lol | 15:39 |
| bnemec | Okay, that's a good start. I'll get y'all added shortly. | 15:40 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to add smcginnis, johnsom, and kgiusti to oslo-coresec | 15:41 |
| bnemec | I'm open to adding more people so if anyone is interested after the meeting just let me know. | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Alan Bishop proposed openstack/tooz master: Add TLS support in etcd3 and etcd3gw drivers https://review.opendev.org/710539 | 15:42 |
| bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:43 | |
| bnemec | #link https://review.opendev.org/705064 | 15:43 |
| bnemec | This sounds promising, let's take a look... | 15:43 |
| bnemec | Oh, that one's rather large. Might be a bit much to do during the meeting. | 15:44 |
| hberaud | bnemec could be improved more but let's cut this into separate patches | 15:44 |
| bnemec | hberaud: That would make it an easier review. | 15:45 |
| hberaud | bnemec: I also introduced this one > https://github.com/4383/oslo.labs | 15:45 |
| hberaud | bnemec: but still fresh paint on | 15:45 |
| hberaud | bnemec: I don't know if this is something that we could host officially | 15:46 |
| hberaud | and why not merge oslo.tools and oslo.labs | 15:46 |
| hberaud | to centralize debug tools and personnal way to tests things on oslo | 15:46 |
| bnemec | That's an interesting question. You could potentially go through the new library spec template and see if it helps clarify whether it's a good fit. | 15:46 |
| hberaud | bnemec: I know that the major part of us have similar tools and scripts so centralize this could be effortless for all of us | 15:47 |
| hberaud | bnemec: ack | 15:47 |
| bnemec | Yeah, I don't have an immediate strong opinion one way or another. | 15:48 |
| hberaud | bnemec: I want to avoid to reinvent the weel for each of us on our side | 15:48 |
| hberaud | s/weel/wheel | 15:49 |
| bnemec | We probably don't want to call it oslo.labs, as the oslo. libraries tend to be runtime dependencies for other services (oslo.tools being an exception to that). | 15:49 |
| hberaud | bnemec: make sense | 15:49 |
| bnemec | I also left some comments on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707180 | 15:50 |
| bnemec | Needs a rebase and I'd like to see it added to the test script. | 15:50 |
| hberaud | ack | 15:50 |
| bnemec | hberaud: So you're going to spilt up https://review.opendev.org/705064, correct? | 15:51 |
| hberaud | nope :) | 15:51 |
| hberaud | I will continue to try to improve oslo.test but through new commits | 15:52 |
| hberaud | follow-up patches | 15:52 |
| hberaud | in other words I don't plan to split this one unless you really ask for | 15:53 |
| bnemec | Okay, we'll just leave that one as to-review then. | 15:53 |
| bnemec | I see smcginnis already did, so we're halfway there. :-) | 15:53 |
| hberaud | :) | 15:53 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:53 | |
| bnemec | That's all I had for the week. Anything else in the 7 minutes we have left? | 15:54 |
| hberaud | I try to introduce functional tests on oslo.cache | 15:54 |
| johnsom | If someone is an expert on oslo.middleware, could you take a look at: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711127/ | 15:54 |
| johnsom | I am helping implement the healthcheck code. I ran into some major confusion with how the oslo config is handled in the middleware library. | 15:54 |
| johnsom | I have it working, but not sure I'm doing it the best way. There seems to be a chicken/egg with the configuration settings. | 15:55 |
| bnemec | How so? | 15:56 |
| * bnemec is not an expert, but did look at the healthcheck code at one point in the semi-distant past | 15:57 | |
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| johnsom | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.middleware/blob/master/oslo_middleware/healthcheck/__init__.py#L384 | 15:57 |
| johnsom | The config options don't materialize until the __init__, then it stevedore loads the backends based on that. So fixture override to test the backends is... interesting | 15:58 |
| johnsom | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.middleware/blob/master/oslo_middleware/healthcheck/__init__.py#L388 | 15:58 |
| johnsom | The backend load is once and done, no mutate, so... The trick is setting the config settings, before they are needed, etc. | 15:59 |
| bnemec | Ah. I don't even remember what backends this supports... | 16:00 |
| johnsom | Well, there are two included, but we are adding one. It's really not much of a check without backends | 16:00 |
| johnsom | Anyway, it is working, so this is a "if you have interest and time" | 16:01 |
| johnsom | I ended up defining those opts twice, which seems to work ok. | 16:02 |
| bnemec | Yeah, that might be a case where you just have to pre-register the opt in the test so you can set an override. | 16:03 |
| bnemec | Which is not ideal because config opts are generally considered private to their defining project. :-/ | 16:04 |
| johnsom | Right. | 16:05 |
| bnemec | Okay, we're over time. If anyone comes up with a better solution to this let johnsom know. | 16:05 |
| bnemec | hberaud: Didn't mean to ignore you. Do you need reviews or help? | 16:05 |
| hberaud | Just to summarize the oslo.cache situation, the etcd3gw functional tests works well, but I currently facing some issues with the memcached functional tests who doesn't work (I need to deep dive), and in second time after these tests I reintroduced the dogpile backend based on pymemcache but without removing the python-memcached based backend, so we retrieve a functional oslo.cache, we surround the | 16:06 |
| hberaud | situation to avoid similar situation, and we continue to modernize it (the both described parts are still WIP). | 16:06 |
| hberaud | just to inform the oslo world of the advancement/situation | 16:06 |
| hberaud | bnemec: help could be useful on the memcache functional tests | 16:07 |
| bnemec | Okay, thanks for the update. | 16:07 |
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| bnemec | Sounds like adding tests for the various backends could probably be done separately once the functional testing framework is in place? | 16:08 |
| hberaud | bnemec: I don't seen why it fail, so if someone have spare time... | 16:08 |
| hberaud | bnemec: yes it could be done separately but we will only win 1 commit | 16:08 |
| hberaud | bnemec: but why not :) | 16:09 |
| hberaud | bnemec: this is the culprit => https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712479/ | 16:10 |
| bnemec | Okay, going to make use of a meetbot command that I don't often use since we have a couple of followups. | 16:10 |
| bnemec | #help johnsom looking for a better way to override oslo.middleware healthcheck backends opt | 16:10 |
| bnemec | #help hberaud looking for assistance on memcache functional testing | 16:10 |
| bnemec | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712479/ | 16:10 |
| hberaud | :) | 16:10 |
| hberaud | that's all for me | 16:10 |
| bnemec | Okay, sounds good. | 16:11 |
| bnemec | We're well over time, so thanks for your patience everyone and catch you all next week. | 16:11 |
| bnemec | If we don't all catch coronavirus in the meantime. ;-) | 16:12 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 16:12 | |
| hberaud | thanks | 16:12 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 16 16:12:21 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-03-16-15.22.html | 16:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-03-16-15.22.txt | 16:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-03-16-15.22.log.html | 16:12 |
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