Monday, 2020-04-06

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Cleanup py27 support  https://review.opendev.org/71756708:40
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sean-k-mooneyquick question is anyone actully working on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+spec/nats-transport12:38
sean-k-mooneyis  see https://review.opendev.org/#/c/680629/12:40
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stephenfinsmcginnis: Can we merge these patches now, or are they held back by feature freeze? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/71639513:34
smcginnisstephenfin: I think we can merge them. The tricky thing we had was with oslotest dropping it. That uncovered a few projects that were relying on mock without declaring it themselves.13:35
smcginnisSo having oslotest include it makes sure it's still installed. For now.13:35
smcginnisAll other ones I think we can proceed with. Especially as it's now into the oslo feature freeze.13:35
stephenfinalright, makes sense13:36
smcginnisSo these *should* only impact victoria, which I think we want to force the issue for those other projects that are indirectly relying on it.13:36
smcginnisThey need to fix that (ideally by dropping it).13:36
openstackgerritHervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.cache master: [WIP] Adding functional tests  https://review.opendev.org/71247913:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo-specs master: Update oslo.metrics spec  https://review.opendev.org/71518114:22
openstackgerritMichael Bayer proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Modernize use of table.count() with func.count()  https://review.opendev.org/71777114:42
smcginnisstephenfin: Wondering if you might be able to help. Looks like sphinx 3.0 is breaking a lot of repos.14:43
smcginnisstephenfin: In Cinder, we're getting this - http://paste.openstack.org/show/791673/14:43
smcginnisLooks like it's blowing up in autodoc.14:43
smcginnisInteresting thing is, cinder used sphinxcontrib.apidoc, but not autodoc.14:44
smcginnisSo not sure where/how to avoid this.14:44
stephenfinsmcginnis: probably won't be able to look into it in depth until Friday, I'm afraid. However, sphinxcontrib.apidoc is using autodoc under the hood14:44
smcginnisstephenfin: OK, thanks. That makes some sense then.14:46
smcginnisWe might block that release for now in upper-constraints.txt14:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.privsep master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock  https://review.opendev.org/71638414:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.cache master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock  https://review.opendev.org/71639915:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.policy master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock  https://review.opendev.org/71639115:01
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bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:02
bnemecCourtesy ping for bnemec, jungleboyj, moguimar, hberaud, stephenfin, kgiusti, johnsom, e0ne, redrobot, bcafarel, smcginnis15:02
bnemec#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting15:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr  6 15:02:32 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'15:02
hberaudyo15:02
johnsomo/15:02
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jungleboyjo/ Multi-tasking.15:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.log master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock  https://review.opendev.org/71639415:04
bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:05
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jungleboyjNothing that I am aware.15:05
bnemecWe reverted the oslotest switch to unittest.mock, which should mean that is no longer a concern for other projects.15:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.reports master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock  https://review.opendev.org/71639715:06
smcginnisKind of a red flag, but the new sphinx release appears to be breaking several repo's docs jobs. So no directly oslo related, but something we should be aware of.15:06
smcginnisAnd looks like oslo.config is impacted.15:07
johnsomThe fix for the oslo policy command line changes seems to work for us.15:07
bcafarellate o/15:07
bcafarel(nothing I know of from neutron)15:07
bnemecjohnsom: Awesome. I should maybe send an email out about that because there may be other projects that also need to make changes for it.15:08
bnemecEverybody had their own workaround for the cli args issue.15:08
hberaud+1 for the wide email15:09
bnemecI can link to the Octavia and Keystone changes as examples.15:09
bnemec#action bnemec send email about oslo.policy cli change15:10
hberaudyep good ideas for the examples15:10
hberaudcould help users15:10
bnemecI had no idea the can of worms I opened when I started digging into this bug. :-)15:11
hberaud:)15:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.utils master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock  https://review.opendev.org/71639215:12
bnemec#topic Releases15:12
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bnemecNew olsotest and new tooz went out late last week. One to fix a problem, the other as an FFE.15:12
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* moguimar is late15:13
bnemecUnfortunately I didn't get everything else released before non-client library freeze. Is that going to be a problem, smcginnis?15:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.db master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock  https://review.opendev.org/71638515:15
smcginnisbnemec: What else is pending?15:15
bnemecA lot of doc and test changes.15:16
bnemecI haven't seen any functional changes yet, but if we branch from the latest release of a number of libraries we're going to lose things on the stable branch.15:16
smcginnisDoesn't sound too risky. We would just need to post a FFE to the ML I think.15:16
smcginnisIf it's job config changes, it might be easier to backport those.15:17
smcginnisSince they aren't something that needs to be "released" to end users.15:17
bnemecYeah, they're basically going to be administrative releases.15:17
bnemecThere's kind of a lot of them. :-/15:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.vmware master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock  https://review.opendev.org/71638715:18
bnemecWe have quite a few libraries that don't see a lot of releases anymore so they pile up over time.15:18
smcginnisWe're probably early enough that I would think it's OK to do a final release to get those included in a branch.15:18
bnemecOkay, I'll write the release patch and send an email to the list for the FFE.15:18
smcginnis++15:18
bnemec#action bnemec write final release patch for Oslo libraries and send email to list for FFE15:19
bnemecOkay, that should do it for releases.15:20
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:20
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bnemec(none)15:20
bnemecOkay, that's easy. :-)15:20
bnemec#topic Non-client Library Freeze15:21
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bnemecWe've kind of already discussed this, but just to be explicit: we now need an FFE from the release team for any further Ussuri releases.15:22
bnemecThat includes bug fixes, so keep that in mind if you're reviewing something until we branch.15:22
hberaudack15:23
bnemecFixes that won't break the initial release can probably wait and be backported.15:23
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock  https://review.opendev.org/71639515:23
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.i18n master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock  https://review.opendev.org/71639015:23
bnemec#topic PTL Situation15:24
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bnemecAs you may have noticed, nobody ran for Oslo PTL this cycle. :-/15:24
bnemecIn light of the weird situation the world is in, I have permission from my manager to keep going for a bit longer.15:25
hberaudgood news15:25
bnemecHowever, we discussed doing some additional delegation to smooth the transition when it does happen.15:25
bnemecOne thing that would pretty simple and useful would be if we have a rotation of people doing the weekly releases.15:26
hberaudhow to manage the PTL approval on the release side?15:26
bnemecIt's not a huge time commitment, but it's a repetitive one so it ends up eating up a decent amount of time when one person is doing all of them.15:27
hberaudstill on the hands of liaison and PTL during the weeks?15:27
bnemecMaybe or maybe not. Anyone can propose a release, it would just need signoff from the PTL/liaison before it could merge.15:28
hberaudack15:28
bnemecSo, if you're interested in helping out with that, let me know.15:28
bnemecIf not I'll start reaching out to specific people. :-)15:28
hberaudI'm already liaison but I could more commited on that if needed15:28
bnemechberaud: Cool, that would be great!15:29
bnemecI've already written up some of the process in the PTL guide, but maybe it can be expanded.15:30
hberaudit could help you to focus on other PTL side to tranfer15:30
hberauds/side/sides/15:30
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bnemecYep15:31
bnemec(my network just blinked, so hopefully I didn't miss anything)15:32
moguimarmine "blinked" for an hour, so I lost my last meeting and the start of this one xD15:33
bnemecWell, this should be interesting. All of a sudden my wired network connection is flaky. :-/15:34
bnemecmoguimar: :-)15:34
bnemecFortunately I think we're almost done anyway.15:34
bnemecSkipping weekly wayward review since we're in freeze.15:35
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:35
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bnemecSo, anything else before we call it?15:35
hberaudnope15:35
moguimarnot here15:36
bnemecAlright, thanks for joining everyone!15:37
bnemec#endmeeting15:37
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openstackgerritHervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.cache master: [WIP] Adding functional tests  https://review.opendev.org/71247915:55
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openstackgerritHervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.cache master: [WIP] Adding functional tests  https://review.opendev.org/71247919:26
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