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| hberaud | moguimar, smcginnis: please can you push +W (if everything seems ok for you) we have an urgent bug downstream related to that | 08:15 |
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| hberaud | moguimar: FYI normally with backports on stable branches a single approval from core is enough on oslo | 08:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wenping Song proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Use TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE instead of obsolete UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE https://review.opendev.org/757515 | 09:35 |
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| moguimar | hberaud, which patch? | 10:44 |
| hberaud | moguimar: lol sorry I forgot the link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/757033/ | 10:47 |
| moguimar | ok, +W | 10:48 |
| hberaud | moguimar: thanks | 10:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wenping Song proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Remove Babel requirement https://review.opendev.org/757534 | 11:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zihao Wang proposed openstack/osprofiler master: Remove six.moves https://review.opendev.org/757540 | 11:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz master: Blacklist etcd3gw 0.2.6 https://review.opendev.org/755086 | 12:02 |
| moguimar | hberaud, stephenfin wanna push this one? | 12:05 |
| hberaud | moguimar: https://review.opendev.org/755086 ? | 12:07 |
| moguimar | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742155 | 12:07 |
| moguimar | hberaud ^ | 12:08 |
| moguimar | forgot the link too xD | 12:08 |
| hberaud | moguimar: ahaha np, I'll validate this one, but I prefer to let stephenfin push the +W button to avoid conflicts of interest | 12:09 |
| moguimar | hberaud, I think there was another one you +W | 12:10 |
| moguimar | and after 35 patches on the same topic, I think we're quite safe | 12:10 |
| moguimar | pbr is going to be the tough one though | 12:11 |
| hberaud | moguimar: yep but I wasn't the publisher of the last PS | 12:11 |
| hberaud | yep I agree I think we are safe | 12:11 |
| moguimar | I mean this one | 12:12 |
| moguimar | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742152/ | 12:12 |
| moguimar | ah, the PS | 12:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.config stable/victoria: sphinxext: Add 'merge_domaindata' https://review.opendev.org/753379 | 12:14 |
| hberaud | moguimar: so I think you're right we can go ahead I fast approved this one https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742155/5 | 12:14 |
| moguimar | hberaud, can you check Clark Boylan's comment on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742160/ | 12:15 |
| moguimar | and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/757309/2 | 12:15 |
| hberaud | omw | 12:15 |
| hberaud | moguimar: any opinion to bring there? => https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742160/9/tox.ini I'll drop these changes | 12:20 |
| moguimar | hberaud, removing that line defeats the purpose of using pre-commit | 12:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.privsep stable/train: Make compatible with msgpack 1.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/757033 | 12:22 |
| hberaud | moguimar: it depends... we still have it available here, but our CI wouldn't relying on it | 12:30 |
| hberaud | moguimar: my main concern is more in the formalization of this part through our entire scope | 12:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz master: Adding pre-commit https://review.opendev.org/742155 | 13:42 |
| moguimar | hberaud, sorry I was out for lunch | 13:43 |
| moguimar | and now pbr is the last one of them =D | 13:44 |
| moguimar | I think we can bring this patch for the meeting | 13:44 |
| hberaud | moguimar: good idea | 13:46 |
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| hberaud | #startmeeting oslo | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 12 15:00:09 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hberaud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:00 |
| hberaud | Courtesy ping for bnemec, smcginnis, moguimar, johnsom, stephenfin, bcafarel, kgiusti, jungleboyj, sboyron | 15:00 |
| beekneemech | o/ | 15:00 |
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| hberaud | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:00 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 15:00 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 15:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 15:00 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:01 |
| moguimar | o/ | 15:01 |
| sboyron_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| hberaud | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:03 | |
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| bcafarel | all good for victoria on neutron side | 15:04 |
| moguimar | nothing from Barbican | 15:04 |
| johnsom | Nothing from Octavia | 15:04 |
| hberaud | I don't expect a whole lot of activity on this right now, final release is really near now. | 15:05 |
| hberaud | #topic Releases | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:06 | |
| hberaud | As said we are now on the final sprint for victoria | 15:06 |
| hberaud | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:07 | |
| hberaud | Nothing new to bring here either | 15:08 |
| hberaud | #topic pre-commit on PBR | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pre-commit on PBR (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:08 | |
| hberaud | as moguimar suggested it could be worth to speak a bit about this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742160/9/tox.ini | 15:09 |
| moguimar | 1st thing is pbr still tests tempest-full, and according to frickler, we can drop it | 15:10 |
| hberaud | 99% of the pre-commit patches are now merged but Clark suggested to avoid to call pre-commit with tox | 15:10 |
| hberaud | moguimar: good point | 15:10 |
| moguimar | which I created a patch to drop it here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/757309/2 | 15:11 |
| bnemec | I would assume the reason for running tempest is to verify that the things installed with pbr are actually working. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | Unless we're verifying that some other way. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | Oh, I see. | 15:12 |
| bnemec | It's a python 2 thing, not dropping tempest completely. | 15:12 |
| moguimar | yeah, tempest-full-py3 is still there | 15:12 |
| hberaud | yep | 15:12 |
| sboyron | yes | 15:12 |
| bnemec | Hmm, that's a bit problematic though. pbr is branchless so we can't just drop py2 on older releases. | 15:13 |
| hberaud | moguimar: so if I understand it correctly it will allow us to continue with our stuff and on the other hand we will keep some testing for py2.7, exact? | 15:14 |
| moguimar | this second patch is just to drop tempest-full for python2 | 15:15 |
| moguimar | as suggested by frickler | 15:15 |
| bnemec | Ah, I see Clark suggested a solution to that in his comment. | 15:15 |
| moguimar | after I fixed requirements.txt to only install pre-commit for python3+ we don't depend on that patch anymore | 15:16 |
| hberaud | I see | 15:16 |
| hberaud | I remember this part now | 15:17 |
| moguimar | the pre-commit patch was failing cause there is no pre-commit 2.6.0 in py27 | 15:17 |
| moguimar | and it is in test-requirements | 15:17 |
| moguimar | but is only used in the pep8 env | 15:17 |
| moguimar | which is py3+ | 15:18 |
| hberaud | yep | 15:18 |
| hberaud | concerning the cache part I asked some feedback from Clark especially on the uniformity of these patches | 15:19 |
| hberaud | but I don't expect a positive response | 15:19 |
| hberaud | I mean I think he will give the priority to the cache aspects | 15:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Moisés Guimarães proposed openstack/pbr master: Adding pre-commit https://review.opendev.org/742160 | 15:21 |
| moguimar | I'm rebasing it without the tempest-full drop | 15:21 |
| hberaud | nice | 15:21 |
| bnemec | Pulling from github in ci is pretty bad. | 15:22 |
| moguimar | so now we have 35 bad patches | 15:22 |
| hberaud | lol | 15:22 |
| bnemec | Is there any chance of getting pre-commit to install from pypi packages instead of source? | 15:23 |
| moguimar | could we work with upstream pre-commit to also accept a package? | 15:23 |
| hberaud | bnemec: we chosen this way as some persons asked for more security by avoiding to pull unchecked versions | 15:25 |
| hberaud | bnemec: so we proposed to pull a specific commit rather than a specific version | 15:25 |
| hberaud | moguimar: which package? | 15:26 |
| bnemec | How is installing from source more secure than installing from a release? | 15:26 |
| moguimar | we would need flake8 and the pre-commit hoops | 15:26 |
| moguimar | hooks | 15:26 |
| hberaud | moguimar: yep | 15:27 |
| moguimar | so we would need https://github.com/pre-commit/pre-commit-hooks | 15:27 |
| moguimar | I'm not sure if it is relased as a package | 15:27 |
| moguimar | thing is pre-commit was always from source | 15:28 |
| moguimar | then we pinned the versions | 15:28 |
| moguimar | and someone complained that tags could be relabeled | 15:28 |
| moguimar | so we pinned to commit hash | 15:28 |
| hberaud | pre-commit and flake8 are mainstream projects so if a security hole appear I think it will appear on pypi too | 15:30 |
| moguimar | I think we are losing the point | 15:30 |
| hberaud | yep | 15:30 |
| moguimar | so, there is no install from pypi now | 15:31 |
| moguimar | we only have source install | 15:31 |
| hberaud | moguimar: do you want to lead some related actions this week? | 15:31 |
| moguimar | how do we go on from here? | 15:31 |
| moguimar | I can reach out to pre-commit folks upsream | 15:31 |
| hberaud | awesome | 15:31 |
| bnemec | That would be a good first step. | 15:31 |
| bnemec | Then depending on how that discussion goes we can figure out what to do. | 15:32 |
| hberaud | #action moguimar to reach pre-commit people | 15:32 |
| hberaud | +1 | 15:32 |
| hberaud | anything else about this? | 15:32 |
| moguimar | I guess we can go on | 15:32 |
| hberaud | #topic Weekly Wayward Wallaby Review | 15:33 |
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| hberaud | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/640057/ | 15:33 |
| hberaud | we are now branched so I assume that we could continue with that | 15:34 |
| bnemec | It's only in the generator, so I think it's unlikely we would have an 11th hour bug fix touching this code. | 15:35 |
| hberaud | #topic Open discussion | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:35 | |
| hberaud | anything else? | 15:35 |
| bnemec | Yep, a couple of things. | 15:35 |
| bnemec | First, the PTG. | 15:35 |
| bnemec | Currently the only topic on the etherpad is the retrospective, and a cross-project for the policy popup which will happen elsewhere. | 15:36 |
| bnemec | So at this point I'm thinking we don't need to meet at all, if there's nothing to discuss. | 15:36 |
| hberaud | agreed | 15:37 |
| moguimar | not even to see each other on video instead of text =P | 15:37 |
| hberaud | :) | 15:37 |
| bnemec | I mean, it's during the regular meeting time so we could also jump on a meetpad. :-) | 15:37 |
| moguimar | we can also discuss the DPL | 15:37 |
| bnemec | That was actually my next topic. | 15:37 |
| hberaud | moguimar: I planed to bring this point here | 15:38 |
| bnemec | We'll need to at least assign official liaisons for the three required positions. | 15:38 |
| hberaud | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20200803-distributed-project-leadership.html#process-for-opting-in-to-distributed-leadership | 15:38 |
| hberaud | as said I'm volunteer for the release liaison but at least we need more than that, any volunteer? | 15:39 |
| hberaud | (and I'm volunteer on the meeting facilitator role too) | 15:40 |
| bnemec | I guess I can stay on as the security liaison. It's a pretty low time commitment and I'm already admin of the oslo-coresec team. ;-) | 15:40 |
| hberaud | bnemec: awesome, thanks | 15:41 |
| moguimar | so what is the 3rd missing? | 15:41 |
| bnemec | tact-sig (essentially, infra) | 15:41 |
| hberaud | any volunteer? | 15:42 |
| sboyron | I'm not a core, so I won't be official tag-sig but I can help | 15:44 |
| damani | just one question it's necesarry be core to be liaison ? | 15:44 |
| bnemec | I'm probably not a good choice for that one since I can't commit to dealing with ci fire drills in a timely fashion anymore. | 15:44 |
| bnemec | Not necessarily, but it's helpful in case there are patches that need to be pushed through. | 15:45 |
| johnsom | Yeah, sorry, but I am already over extended. | 15:45 |
| bnemec | However, as long as there are cores available that you can ping it would probably be okay to have a non-core as the liaison here. | 15:45 |
| hberaud | sboyron, damani: I've no idea about if we need to be core for this job, I guess yes, but we could ask to TC members about this point | 15:46 |
| bnemec | And, frankly, if no cores volunteer then it's clearly better to have a non-core than no liaison at all. :-) | 15:46 |
| hberaud | I agreed with bnemec | 15:46 |
| bnemec | I could also see it being a good path to becoming a core, if that's a goal you have. | 15:47 |
| damani | sboyron, are you volunteer ? | 15:47 |
| hberaud | sboyron: so you're interested by the tact-sig? | 15:47 |
| bnemec | Fighting ci fires will teach you a lot about how the projects work and interact. | 15:47 |
| hberaud | damani: are you interesting by the release liaison job? | 15:47 |
| damani | hberaud, yes | 15:48 |
| hberaud | s/interesting/interested | 15:48 |
| damani | i'm really interested | 15:48 |
| hberaud | damani: nice | 15:48 |
| moguimar | damani++ | 15:48 |
| sboyron | hberaud I am really interrested to help | 15:48 |
| bnemec | It would be good to have more than one release liaison, for the same reason we always had two people who could ack release requests in the past. | 15:48 |
| bnemec | (PTL + liaison) | 15:48 |
| hberaud | sboyron: awesome | 15:48 |
| moguimar | I can help hberaud with the releases | 15:49 |
| hberaud | moguimar: damani is volunteer too | 15:49 |
| moguimar | ah, I see | 15:49 |
| sboyron | I'll need some help since I do not know all process yet, but tact-sig or release liaison are some interresting subject | 15:49 |
| bnemec | How do we want to keep track of this? Maybe a policy spec doc so we can review proposed liaisons in the normal way? | 15:49 |
| moguimar | I thought he was volunteering for tact-sig | 15:49 |
| hberaud | moguimar: maybe you can create a pair tact-sig with sboyron | 15:50 |
| moguimar | sounds good, although I have no idea at all of tact-sig responsibilities | 15:50 |
| hberaud | a pair of core/non-core and mentoring sboyron and damani | 15:50 |
| sboyron | it's ok for me to work in a pair, sound goods | 15:50 |
| hberaud | and help them to become core developer on oslo with us | 15:51 |
| bnemec | moguimar: Basically be the point of contact for infra if something in our ci jobs breaks. | 15:51 |
| bnemec | It doesn't necessarily mean you have to fix all the ci breakages, but it helps if you know who to pull in to fix them. | 15:51 |
| moguimar | sboyron, what is your timezone? | 15:51 |
| sboyron | CEST | 15:51 |
| damani | hberaud, moguimar, sounds really good | 15:51 |
| sboyron | what about yours moguimar ? | 15:51 |
| moguimar | same I guess | 15:51 |
| moguimar | Czech Republic | 15:52 |
| hberaud | excellent! I think we reached a great step | 15:52 |
| sboyron | same yes, great | 15:52 |
| bnemec | Thinking some more on this, maybe it's better to keep track of our liaisons on the wiki. | 15:52 |
| bnemec | We already have a contact list here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#The_Oslo_Team | 15:52 |
| hberaud | johnsom: are you interested for some of these roles? | 15:53 |
| bnemec | We could add a liaisons section to that. | 15:53 |
| hberaud | bnemec: good idea | 15:53 |
| hberaud | bnemec: do you want to lead that? | 15:53 |
| johnsom | hberaud I can continue as a TaskFlow core and the security group, but I cannot take on new responsibilities at this time. | 15:53 |
| bnemec | Yeah, I can do that quick. | 15:54 |
| hberaud | johnsom: ack np | 15:54 |
| hberaud | bnemec: awesome thanks | 15:54 |
| hberaud | #action bnemec to keep track of our liaisons on the wiki. | 15:54 |
| hberaud | anything else? | 15:54 |
| bnemec | That's all I had. | 15:56 |
| hberaud | Ok then I think we are done | 15:56 |
| hberaud | Thanks for joining! | 15:56 |
| sboyron | hberaud, Thanks | 15:56 |
| hberaud | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 12 15:56:27 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-10-12-15.00.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-10-12-15.00.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-10-12-15.00.log.html | 15:56 |
| damani | bnemec, i have refactor the patch, can you please review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746723/ ? | 15:57 |
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| bnemec | Okay, I created https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Project_Leadership_Liaisons | 16:02 |
| bnemec | hberaud moguimar sboyron damani: please check that I put everyone in the right place and fill in any details I didn't have. | 16:03 |
| moguimar | hberaud at utc+2? | 16:03 |
| bnemec | That's what was in the other table. | 16:03 |
| hberaud | bnemec, moguimar, bnemec, moguimar, johnsom, stephenfin, kgiusti, smcginnis, damani, sboyron: FYI I missed this point, I'm volunteer to manage the DPL process https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20200803-distributed-project-leadership.html#process-for-opting-in-to-distributed-leadership to move our team under this kind of leadership, I'll submit a patch soon to update our status | 16:03 |
| hberaud | moguimar: yep UTC+2 | 16:03 |
| moguimar | where are you based? | 16:03 |
| hberaud | france | 16:04 |
| moguimar | I forgot that France spans 14 timezones | 16:04 |
| moguimar | ok, no jokes now. But CZ is UTC+1 | 16:04 |
| moguimar | maybe you're counting daylight saving? | 16:04 |
| sboyron | moguimar, France is UTC+1 too | 16:05 |
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| hberaud | moguimar: we abandonned city timezone only 1 century ago | 16:05 |
| damani | bnemec, thanks a lot for the wiki | 16:05 |
| sboyron | UTC+1 in winter and UTC+2 in summer; | 16:05 |
| moguimar | ah, so I'm at UTC+2 | 16:05 |
| moguimar | and not +1 =P | 16:06 |
| sboyron | 6pm right now ;) | 16:06 |
| moguimar | fixed | 16:07 |
| moguimar | the wiki | 16:07 |
| moguimar | hberaud, the timezone joke is on the overseas part of france | 16:08 |
| moguimar | like Brazil borders with Frace at French Guiana | 16:08 |
| hberaud | moguimar: yeah I understood your joke :) | 16:09 |
| sboyron | bnemec, I updated the wiki with all my info; thanks | 16:09 |
| hberaud | moguimar: french polynesia help us too | 16:10 |
| hberaud | (to cover all these TZ) | 16:10 |
| stephenfin | hberaud: great! :) | 16:11 |
| hberaud | but a century ago all french city also had their own TZ too | 16:11 |
| hberaud | city/cities | 16:11 |
| hberaud | bnemec: awesome thanks for the wiki | 16:11 |
| hberaud | damani: feel free to update our informations https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Project_Leadership_Liaisons | 16:12 |
| hberaud | s/our/your | 16:12 |
| damani | hberaud, yes | 16:13 |
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| hamalq | is the rabbitmq feature used for that https://www.rabbitmq.com/direct-reply-to.html | 18:39 |
| hamalq | is this ^^? | 18:39 |
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| hamalq | : hberaud hi how are u? can u please help me with ^^ | 21:30 |
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