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| moguimar | hberaud, are we having a meeting today? | 15:54 |
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| moguimar | first of 2021 =P | 15:55 |
| hberaud | oups sorry | 15:55 |
| hberaud | moguimar: yes | 15:55 |
| moguimar | cool | 15:55 |
| moguimar | I'm just back from PTO | 15:55 |
| hberaud | moguimar: luckily you reminded me: p | 15:56 |
| hberaud | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 4 16:00:39 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hberaud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:00 |
| hberaud | Courtesy ping for hberaud, stephenfin, moguimar, jungleboyj, bnemec, johnsom, bcafarel, kgiusti, gmann, valleedelisle | 16:00 |
| moguimar | o/ | 16:00 |
| hberaud | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 16:01 |
| * stephenfin lurks | 16:01 | |
| kgiusti | o/ | 16:01 |
| bnemec | o/ | 16:01 |
| bcafarel | o/ happy new year! | 16:01 |
| hberaud | Let's start by saying happy new year! | 16:02 |
| bnemec | Happy New Year! | 16:02 |
| moguimar | yay | 16:02 |
| hberaud | I wish you all the best for 2021! | 16:02 |
| moguimar | Happy New Year! | 16:02 |
| kgiusti | happy happy joy joy! | 16:02 |
| hberaud | So let's go! | 16:04 |
| hberaud | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:04 | |
| johnsom | Nothing from Octavia/Designate (though I have been on vacation) | 16:04 |
| bnemec | I saw a commen in the keystone channel that the new oslo.db release broke something. | 16:04 |
| bnemec | *comment | 16:04 |
| bcafarel | nothing I'm aware of yet for Neutron | 16:05 |
| hberaud | yes I seen related discussion on rpm-packaging too | 16:05 |
| moguimar | I guess no topics from Barbican, we haven't had a meeting in weeks | 16:05 |
| hberaud | however I'm not aware of the exact issue, bnemec any details? | 16:06 |
| bnemec | I didn't really look at it yet. | 16:07 |
| hberaud | ack np | 16:07 |
| bnemec | Just passing it along since my oslo notification pinged me about it. :-) | 16:07 |
| hberaud | lol | 16:07 |
| hberaud | Ok I think we can move on for now | 16:08 |
| hberaud | #topic Releases liaison | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases liaison (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:08 | |
| hberaud | Nothing from my side, damani any update? | 16:08 |
| hberaud | I guess most of us were on vacation, so I don't expect lot of activity today | 16:10 |
| bnemec | Yep | 16:10 |
| hberaud | #topic Security liaison | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Security liaison (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:10 | |
| bnemec | Nothing that I've seen, but I haven't gotten through all of my email yet. ;-) | 16:11 |
| hberaud | +1 | 16:11 |
| hberaud | #topic TaCT SIG liaison | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TaCT SIG liaison (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:11 | |
| hberaud | moguimar: any update? | 16:12 |
| moguimar | no fires on my side | 16:12 |
| hberaud | we've one topic that fit the TaCt SIG http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-December/019521.html | 16:12 |
| hberaud | I started to address this one just before the christmas week, but now I need to rewind on it to see where we are now | 16:13 |
| hberaud | else nothing else from my side here | 16:14 |
| bnemec | Do we want to discuss that as a separate topic? It's a fairly significant discussion. | 16:15 |
| hberaud | bnemec: Yes it could be worth | 16:15 |
| moguimar | yes | 16:16 |
| moguimar | and the cursive discussion too | 16:16 |
| hberaud | let's finish the regular agenda | 16:16 |
| bnemec | +1 | 16:16 |
| hberaud | #topic Action items from last meeting | 16:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:16 | |
| hberaud | nothing here | 16:17 |
| hberaud | #topic Weekly Wayward Wallaby Review | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Wallaby Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:17 | |
| hberaud | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.config/+/687513 | 16:18 |
| hberaud | stephenfin: still relevant? ^ | 16:18 |
| * stephenfin looks | 16:18 | |
| stephenfin | hberaud: I need to respin it. Nothing valuable there yet I'd say | 16:19 |
| hberaud | ack np | 16:19 |
| hberaud | #topic Open discussion | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:19 | |
| hberaud | Anything else? | 16:20 |
| moguimar | do we bring cursive and lowerconstraints now? | 16:21 |
| bnemec | It would be nice to #topic those just for ease of finding in the future. | 16:21 |
| hberaud | #topic hosting Cursive | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "hosting Cursive (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:22 | |
| hberaud | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-December/019430.html | 16:22 |
| moguimar | The barbican team agrees on hosting cursive under oslo and offers help likewise done to castellan | 16:23 |
| hberaud | To bring a bit of context here, some people proposed to move the cursive lib under the openstack organization and especially under the oslo team | 16:23 |
| bnemec | It makes sense to me. It's a common library that is closely associated with the Barbican team. | 16:24 |
| hberaud | +1 | 16:25 |
| hberaud | moguimar: do you want to lead the officialization of this topic regarding oslo? | 16:26 |
| moguimar | what do you need on my end? | 16:26 |
| hberaud | moguimar: I think that it could be a simple official email in response on that thread by pointing that discussion | 16:27 |
| moguimar | I presume I'd have to talk to people to move the project in opendev | 16:27 |
| moguimar | ok | 16:28 |
| hberaud | moguimar: IIRC someone already do that, but I'm not sure | 16:28 |
| moguimar | I can send the email | 16:28 |
| hberaud | moguimar: the goal here is mostly to speak in the behalf of oslo/barbican as you are transversal on these projects | 16:29 |
| hberaud | moguimar: thanks | 16:29 |
| hberaud | #action moguimar officializing oslo's position concerning the cursive migration | 16:30 |
| hberaud | #topic Dropping lower-constraints testing | 16:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Dropping lower-constraints testing (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:31 | |
| hberaud | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-December/019521.html | 16:31 |
| hberaud | So the goal was to find a way to manage the new pip resolver issues within oslo | 16:32 |
| hberaud | Either we fix all our incompatibility between entries in our *requirements.txt or we drop them | 16:33 |
| bnemec | As I mentioned in the channel before break, I think there is value to lower-constraints testing and I would like to keep it. But if it's going to take too much time to fix then it's academic and we have to remove it. | 16:34 |
| hberaud | by removing the lower-constraints check | 16:34 |
| moguimar | from what I remember from the discussion, keeping the lower-requirements consumes more time than the benefits it provides | 16:34 |
| moguimar | due to the large number of repos | 16:35 |
| bnemec | Has anyone managed to get a lower-constraints job working so we would have some idea what it will take? | 16:35 |
| hberaud | I tried to fix few of them but we rapidly fall in the dependencies hell.... | 16:35 |
| hberaud | I spent few hours with only few projects and the problem is that some fix should be depends-on of other... | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | o/ Sorry for being late. | 16:37 |
| bnemec | Oh, so the problem isn't just fixing our lower-constraints, it's also that all of our deps have issues too? | 16:38 |
| hberaud | by example with oslo.messaging that pull oslo.log etc... | 16:38 |
| hberaud | so a deps X version on oslo.messaging should match a specific version on oslo.log etc... | 16:38 |
| hberaud | s/deps/dep/ | 16:39 |
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| hberaud | and that on ~34 projects | 16:40 |
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| bnemec | I guess this isn't necessarily an either/or thing. We can always remove the jobs to unblock the repos now, and if someone wants to tackle the lower-constraints fixes later we can add them back. | 16:40 |
| bnemec | So +1 from me to removal. | 16:40 |
| hberaud | +1 | 16:41 |
| moguimar | is it feasible to have a single lower-constraints file to rule them all? | 16:41 |
| moguimar | +1 | 16:41 |
| hberaud | hm maybe by adding a config-dep project pulled by all oslo projects... | 16:42 |
| stephenfin | yeah, I don't want to do that work so +1 from me too | 16:42 |
| stephenfin | moguimar: That's what we had, back in the day | 16:42 |
| stephenfin | iirc | 16:42 |
| stephenfin | or maybe not - the death of the openstack proposal bot came about around the same time lower-constraints jobs were introduced, but maybe they weren't the same thing | 16:43 |
| hberaud | so if every participant agree with that I'll reply on the thread to summarize our discussion and continue to move further with that | 16:44 |
| hberaud | #action hberaud confirm the drop of LC job on oslo by reply on the ML thread | 16:45 |
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| hberaud | #topic Open discussion | 16:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:46 | |
| hberaud | Anything else to discuss today? | 16:46 |
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| hberaud | OK, thanks everyone. Let's wrap up. | 16:48 |
| hberaud | #endmeeting | 16:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 16:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 4 16:49:05 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2021/oslo.2021-01-04-16.00.html | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2021/oslo.2021-01-04-16.00.txt | 16:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2021/oslo.2021-01-04-16.00.log.html | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks. | 16:49 |
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