Monday, 2021-01-11

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openstackgerritHervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: [WIP] Allow to loop for timeout when a MessageUndeliverable is raised  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.messaging/+/76477609:43
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openstackgerritHervé Beraud proposed openstack/osprofiler master: Add doc/requirements  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osprofiler/+/76976713:51
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openstackgerritHervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: [WIP] Allow to loop for timeout when a MessageUndeliverable is caught  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.messaging/+/76477614:16
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hberaud#startmeeting oslo16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan 11 16:00:01 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hberaud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'16:00
hberaudCourtesy ping for hberaud, stephenfin, moguimar, jungleboyj, bnemec, johnsom, bcafarel, kgiusti, gmann, valleedelisle16:00
hberaud#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting16:00
hberaudWill just wait a couple minutes for folks.16:00
moguimaro/16:00
jungleboyjo/16:00
johnsomo/16:00
bnemeco/16:00
stephenfino/16:01
* stephenfin lurks as usual (downstream meeting)16:01
hberaud:)16:01
hberaud#topic Red flags for/from liaisons16:03
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jungleboyjNothing from Cinder that I am aware of.16:03
moguimarNothing from Barbican16:03
hberaudNothing from Oslo that I'm aware of.16:03
johnsomNothing to report from Octavia or Designate16:04
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hberaud#topic Releases liaison16:06
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hberaudI think we've a bunch of things to release now, I need to take a look to me report to see what need a new version16:07
hberauddamani: any update?16:07
hberauda new fix have been recently merged on oslo.messaging, that could be nice to release it16:08
hberaudI'll try to spend time on it tomorrow16:08
hberaud#topic Security liaison16:09
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hberaudbnemec: Any update?16:09
bnemecNope, all clear.16:09
hberaudNo news, good news :)16:09
hberaud#topic TaCT SIG liaison16:10
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moguimarNo smoke detected last week.16:10
hberaudack thanks16:10
hberaud#topic Action items from last meeting16:11
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hberaudACTION: moguimar officializing oslo's position concerning the cursive migration16:12
moguimardone16:12
hberaudawesome16:12
hberaudthanks16:12
moguimarjust confirmed with Doug from Barbican and updated everyone in the ML16:12
hberaudfrom a Barbican POV everything seems ok?16:13
moguimaryep16:13
hberaudawesome, thanks16:13
hberaudACTION: hberaud confirm the drop of LC job on oslo by reply on the ML thread16:14
hberauddone too16:14
hberaud#topic Weekly Wayward Wallaby Review16:14
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hberaud#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.db/+/76773216:15
hberaudjust a L.C drop16:15
hberaudthat needs reviews16:16
bnemec+2.16:17
bnemecDo we want to single approve the l-c drop patches?16:17
hberaudnotice that someone experienced a bug recently with oslo.db so possibly we will have soon to merge a fix and this one will unlock our path16:17
bnemecIt's something we already agreed to as a team.16:17
hberaudbnemec: Yes, I think we can go ahead16:17
hberaudmoguimar, stephenfin: is it ok for you? ^16:18
moguimarsure16:18
stephenfinHave we agreed to drop them at the community level?16:18
stephenfinIIRC we discussed this in nova last week and decided to just make them non-voting until that discussion was finalized16:19
bnemecSeems to be trending that way.16:19
bnemecWe can always put them back if something changes.16:19
hberaudNot yet officially, a discussion have been started by the TC http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019672.html16:19
gmannthere is still no consensus on community level16:20
gmannI will bring that in TC thursday meeting this week16:20
hberaudgmann: awesome, thanks16:20
moguimardid you miss oslo.config?16:20
hberaudElse I agree with bnemec16:20
stephenfinTrue that16:21
stephenfinaight, single +2 is fine by me16:21
hberaudmoguimar: good question, apparently yes16:21
hberaudmoguimar: do you want to manage this one?16:21
moguimark16:21
moguimarwill do16:21
hberaudthanks16:21
hberaudThen I think we can move one16:22
hberaud#topic Open discussion16:22
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hberaudAnything else?16:22
* hberaud yes16:22
bnemecYou know, as the meeting moderator you can just add topics. ;-)16:23
hberaudJust a heads up, I'll start a discussion about qpid/qdr and the oslo world ASAP16:23
hberaudbnemec: yes true :), but I don't have much more than that for now ^16:24
moguimarI see16:24
moguimaroslo.config doesn't have a .zuul.yaml file16:24
hberaudSo yes next weeks I'll surely add related topics and surely I'll send related ML thread16:24
bnemecWhat is the qpid discussion?16:24
moguimarbut a .zuul.d/project.yaml16:24
moguimarshould I move the file in a separate patch?16:25
bnemecmoguimar: Is that the only thing in .zuul.d?16:25
moguimaryep16:25
bnemecI suppose I could go look... ;-)16:25
bnemecMaybe move it first then remove l-c?16:25
moguimarjust a single file with -project: -templates...16:26
bnemecThat way if we need to revert the l-c change it will apply cleanly.16:26
hberaudbnemec: Is it possible to move on qpid/qdr, how to do that from an openstack POV, what we need, etc...16:26
moguimarok, I'll move first16:26
hberaudElse, that's all for me16:26
hberaudanything else?16:27
bnemechberaud: Good luck. New messaging backends are historically a hard sell to operators. :-/16:27
hberaudbnemec: thanks :)16:27
bnemecI know it had some potential applications for edge though, so maybe that's a selling point.16:27
bnemecAnyway, will be interested to see that discussion.16:28
bnemecOh, hey, I actually have something to mention here.16:28
hberaudbnemec: it could be the chance to grab some related histories, do not hesitate to share links :)16:28
hberaudbnemec: no rush for now16:29
hberaudbnemec: the floor is yours16:29
bnemeckgiusti is probably the one with all the background on qdr. I just went to some presentations. :-)16:29
openstackgerritMoisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Move zuul config file to root folder  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.config/+/77014616:29
openstackgerritMoisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Dropping lower constraints testing  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.config/+/77014716:29
moguimardone16:29
bnemecAll I wanted to mention was that we got a response to the bug on fasteners: https://github.com/harlowja/fasteners/issues/3616:29
bnemecIt's been broken for a year and a half, but it sounds like someone may be looking into it.16:30
bnemecUnclear whether they're going to merge my revert or try to find a proper fix.16:30
bnemecBut since we've had to carry a cap on it for this entire time, it's good news.16:30
hberaudbnemec: ack, I don't really remember this one16:31
bnemecI barely did either. :-)16:31
hberaudany takers?16:31
bnemecFortunately it reproduced first try for me so it wasn't hard to verify.16:31
bnemecI'm hoping someone from the fasteners team is going to take care of it.16:32
bnemecI just wanted to mention it because it lives outside of OpenStack now but is made up of code that was factored out of oslo.concurrency and heavily used by o.c.16:32
bnemecAlthough if anyone wants to dig further I'm sure it would be welcome!16:32
hberaudYes you're right it's worth to mention it here16:33
bnemecThat's all I've got.16:33
hberaudConcerning myself I'm not sure I have time for that now, but sometime I can bring this topic during one of our next meeting, anyway thank you for the heads up.16:35
hberaudOK, thanks everyone. Almost there!16:36
hberaud#endmeeting16:37
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