Wednesday, 2025-01-22

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hberaud[m]gmann: I've no idea if oslo meetings will happen this week or not, damani what is your plan about meeting? gmann: I'll check your etherpad, thanks10:44
tkajinamgmann, done. I voted my -1 following your existing vote but lmk if you made this wrong.10:55
tkajinamhberaud[m], what we have to decide is whether we have a meeting, and "when" we have a meeting. confusion about odd week/even week has not yet been resolved AFAIK10:56
hberaud[m]Apparently there is no meeting since 2024 december 4th https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/oslo/2024/   11:12
damani[m]hi there ยจ11:29
damani[m]the choice of weekly meetings was made to accommodate everyone, but unfortunately, few people voted11:37
damani[m]as mentioned in the etherpad, they will take place every Wednesday11:37
damani[m]odd weeks: 13:00 UTC11:37
damani[m]even weeks: 17:00 UTC11:37
damani[m]so today it's 17:00 utc 11:37
damani[m]https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/epoxy-oslo-meeting-tracking11:37
damani[m]if you prefer to do another system we can decide something else 11:38
tkajinamWhat confused me is how that odd or even is determined. It'd be helpful if you can put the expected time11:53
tkajinamI checked the channel last week around 13:00 UTC but haven't seen anyone active at that time11:55
damani[m]how do you mean how odd or even is determined 11:59
damani[m]?12:00
damani[m]again if you don't like that odd and even we can change it 12:04
hberaud[m]If, for some reasons, a meeting is canceled then this cancelation should be announced, at least on IRC, and maybe through the mailing list, or at least on the etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/epoxy-oslo-meeting-tracking#L95. There is no indication if a meeting is canceled or not12:23
hberaud[m]Many teams announce their cancelation https://lists.openstack.org/archives/search?mlist=openstack-discuss%40lists.openstack.org&q=canceled+meeting and oslo did the same in the past12:24
tkajinamdamani[m], It might be just stupid, but it hasn't been very clear to me if Jan1-3 is week 0 or week 112:50
tkajinamit's ok as long as we know which is odd, but I've asking this question several times in the channel but haven't really heard any answer to it12:50
tkajinamanyway12:50
tkajinamhberaud[m], yeah that would definitely help12:51
damani[m]ok12:53
tkajinamHonestly I'm surprised to see how people replied to zzzeek in that thread. Is it only me who remember that we had the discussion about the switching mechanism and didn't hear any strong objection during it ?12:53
tkajinamProbably I was dreaming at that time12:53
damani[m]no i agree with you 12:54
tkajinamI remember I raised concern about over-complicating the implementation to support switching but that might also be a wrong memory :-P12:55
damani[m]no you remember correctly you and me was not in favor to have the double support 12:55
damani[m]but so now your idea is back on that, to directly change the implementation without have both backends 12:56
damani[m]right?12:56
tkajinamwe may have both backends to support transition but we do not make it configurable and let projects hard-coded their backend (which is passed down to oslo.service some way to select the appropriate backend)12:57
damani[m]yes12:57
damani[m]ok12:57
tkajinamI think this is what we agreed between us when we discussed the plan initially some time before PTG12:58
damani[m]yes exactly 13:03
damani[m]it was the first idea you was agreed with that 13:03
tkajinamyeah13:04
hberaud[m]no meeting?16:05
hberaud[m]ah sorry UTC time16:07
hberaud[m]So I can't attends16:09
JayFtkajinam: I don't remember that conversation but TBH PTG week usually contains more in-depth technical discussion than I'm able to process, so even if I was there I may have missed it. As I said in the email thread, I'm OK to drop my objection as "too late" if desired.16:13
opendevreviewDaniel Bengtsson proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Introduce backend system in oslo.service  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.service/+/93578316:18
opendevreviewDaniel Bengtsson proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Introduce configurable backend system in oslo.service  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.service/+/93578316:24
damani[m]i have updated the patch 16:26
JayFThank you16:26
damani[m]and commit message 16:26
hberaud[m]Thanks16:37
damani[m]#startmeeting oslo17:01
opendevmeetMeeting started Wed Jan 22 17:01:02 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is damani[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
opendevmeetUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'17:01
damani[m] hberaud, gmann, tkajinam, zzzeek, oslo meeting, if you can17:02
damani[m]#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/epoxy-oslo-meeting-tracking17:02
damani[m]#topic Introduce configurable backend system in oslo.service17:02
damani[m]i have made the change to use a constant instead other solution 17:03
damani[m]i think now we are good to merge 17:03
damani[m]about the mock in the tests, i would like to still using mock until we have the both implementation 17:04
damani[m]any question about it?17:05
damani[m]ok 17:05
damani[m]so i think nobody else can join it today 17:05
damani[m]i don't have other topic on my side today 17:06
damani[m]so i think we can close the meeting for today, it was the main topic for me at the moment 17:06
damani[m]ok 17:12
damani[m]i close the meeting 17:12
damani[m]thanks a lot 17:12
damani[m]#endmeeting 17:12
opendevmeetMeeting ended Wed Jan 22 17:12:27 2025 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:12
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damani[m]need to take a break 17:43
damani[m]i come back later 17:44
gmanndamani[m]: sorry, could not join as I am feeling little sick. 18:27
gmannhberaud[m]: tkajinam thanks18:28
opendevreviewMerged openstack/oslo.utils master: Deprecate redundant exception_to_unicode function  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.utils/+/93892918:51
opendevreviewMerged openstack/oslo.messaging master: rabbit: validate input for retry options  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.messaging/+/93878419:29
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