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| DinaBelova | #startmeeting Performance Team | 15:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 8 15:30:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is DinaBelova. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:30 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'performance_team' | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova | hey folks :) | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova | welcome back to our meetings :) | 15:30 |
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| DinaBelova | let's see who's around :) | 15:30 |
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| DinaBelova | ad_rien_, sai ? | 15:31 |
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| ad_rien_ | ye | 15:32 |
| ad_rien_ | s | 15:32 |
| ad_rien_ | sorry | 15:32 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ heh, I almost felt like none survived through the after-summit :D | 15:32 |
| * ad_rien_ is contacting other Inria folks | 15:32 | |
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| ad_rien_ | Actually we are debriefing since this morning. | 15:32 |
| ad_rien_ | ;) | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | haha :D | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | We are talking about new experiments :-P | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | that's true | 15:33 |
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| msimonin | o/ | 15:33 |
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| DinaBelova | msimonin o/ | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ will be glad if you'll share them today :D | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | heh, so let's start with not so many people | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | msimonin was explaining that points. | 15:33 |
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| DinaBelova | as after-summit meetings are usually very lazy :D | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Summit recap | 15:34 |
| DinaBelova | so first of all some summit recap | 15:34 |
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| DinaBelova | I've decided to add new section to the perf docs | 15:34 |
| DinaBelova | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393538/ | 15:34 |
| DinaBelova | dedicated to summit and other events recaps | 15:34 |
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| DinaBelova | @ad_rien_ @msimonin please feel free to update a commit | 15:35 |
| DinaBelova | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393538/ | 15:35 |
| DinaBelova | or at least review it - if there is something else you'd like to add, let's do it | 15:35 |
| DinaBelova | I think this section is very beneficial for newcomers to take a look on | 15:35 |
| DinaBelova | so that's all I wanted to mention regarding passed summit | 15:36 |
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| ad_rien_ | Ok thanks. We can probably also mention the NFV Working group | 15:37 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ sure | 15:37 |
| ad_rien_ | especially because during the last meeting we talk about performance experiements | 15:37 |
| DinaBelova | please feel free to update a change | 15:37 |
| ad_rien_ | please add the action | 15:37 |
| DinaBelova | #action ad_rien_ update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393538/ with the nfv group info | 15:38 |
| ad_rien_ | thanks | 15:38 |
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| DinaBelova | ok, so it looks like we may jump to the planned tests and progress around them | 15:38 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Current progress on the planned tests | 15:38 |
| sai | DinaBelova: hey, i took a week off after summit | 15:38 |
| sai | so just back to work, not much updates | 15:38 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ msimonin do you want to start with your folks ideas regarding further experiments? | 15:38 |
| DinaBelova | sai ack, thanks | 15:38 |
| ad_rien_ | The idea | 15:39 |
| ad_rien_ | is to evaluate several deployment scenarios regarding the multi regions concept | 15:39 |
| ad_rien_ | we released the ENOS software (the tool we used for the last experiments) | 15:40 |
| * ad_rien_ is looking for the link | 15:40 | |
| rcherrueau | #link https://github.com/BeyondTheClouds/enos | 15:40 |
| DinaBelova | thanks rcherrueau | 15:40 |
| ad_rien_ | we want to add some topology informations and emulate them using TC. | 15:40 |
| ad_rien_ | Thanks to such extensions, we would be able to evaluate mutli-site deployments | 15:41 |
| ad_rien_ | with network constraints (BW, latency) between each node | 15:41 |
| ad_rien_ | (controller and compute nodes) | 15:41 |
| ad_rien_ | so this is, roughly, our goal | 15:41 |
| ad_rien_ | obviously we want to continue to contribute/collaborate to the WG. | 15:42 |
| DinaBelova | also I believe huge part of the research will be around openstack configs tuning go find out what combo is leading to max performance and scalability | 15:42 |
| ad_rien_ | yes | 15:42 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ really good goal | 15:42 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ once you'll be able to submit a test plan, pleae go ahead and push it to review | 15:42 |
| ad_rien_ | basically we are discussing with redhat guys to evaluate QPID | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | we are also identifying the different deployment possibilities | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | (one AMQP vs several AMQP)... | 15:43 |
| DinaBelova | I believe this research should become a huge part of Perf WG progress this cycle | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | so step 1: determine the deployment scenarios | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | step 2: determine the benchmark we want to perfor | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | step 3 perform the experiments | 15:43 |
| DinaBelova | step 4 analyze everything :D | 15:44 |
| ad_rien_ | :) | 15:44 |
| DinaBelova | yeah, good plan | 15:44 |
| msimonin | DinaBelova: if you know people interested in messaging evaluation we will be happy to work with them | 15:44 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ please keep us updated on this way | 15:44 |
| ad_rien_ | I'm trying to combine efforts between the NFV WG and the Massively distributed one. | 15:45 |
| DinaBelova | msimonin I'll check | 15:45 |
| ad_rien_ | sure | 15:45 |
| DinaBelova | ok, cool | 15:45 |
| ad_rien_ | I was also wondering | 15:45 |
| DinaBelova | yep? | 15:45 |
| ad_rien_ | whether such evaluations can be usefull for the LDT ? | 15:45 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ yes, they will for sure | 15:45 |
| ad_rien_ | If I'm right the last meeting/session in Barcelone did not conclude with concrete actions. | 15:46 |
| DinaBelova | I think that one of the goals this cycle will be to keep LDT updated on what we're doing | 15:46 |
| ad_rien_ | Maybe you discussed offline with the LTD guys ? | 15:46 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ the discussion we had was a bit messed due to the overlapping sessions some LDT folks needed to attend | 15:46 |
| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:46 |
| DinaBelova | so in short: they are really glad to see more researches shared, esp. on your case, regarding Neutron (what was done previous cycle) and telemetry | 15:47 |
| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:47 |
| DinaBelova | sai afaik you folks have evaluated gnocchi during your researches? | 15:47 |
| sai | DinaBelova: yes | 15:48 |
| sai | my teammate did, hes not on the channel | 15:48 |
| sai | ill get him to join:) | 15:48 |
| DinaBelova | LDT team is really wishing to see what was discovered, what's the comparison with usual Ceilo etc. | 15:48 |
| DinaBelova | sai ack, in short I may ask the following question: do you will to publish this data to performance docs? | 15:49 |
| DinaBelova | as said, LDT folks are interested in this information to be publicly available | 15:49 |
| sai | DinaBelova: i dont see why we shouldnt, as long ad we can get the formatting right | 15:50 |
| sai | its realy abt time at this point, we have a fairly small team | 15:50 |
| DinaBelova | sai right | 15:50 |
| sai | but sure ill take this up | 15:50 |
| DinaBelova | sai ack | 15:50 |
| sai | and ask | 15:50 |
| DinaBelova | #action sai find out when information about telemetry researched Red Hat has done can be published to performance docs | 15:51 |
| DinaBelova | sai in fact you may publish the very first version of test plan / test results | 15:51 |
| DinaBelova | and either I or someone from my team can polish it to get merged | 15:51 |
| sai | ack we curently publish results to our blogs | 15:51 |
| DinaBelova | sai that's good, but I believe having it in official openstack docs is also cool :) | 15:52 |
| sai | understood | 15:52 |
| sai | :) | 15:52 |
| DinaBelova | anyway, let's think about it :) | 15:52 |
| sai | sure | 15:52 |
| DinaBelova | ok, so about Mirantis plans for further cycle | 15:52 |
| DinaBelova | as said on summit, we want to focus on OpenStack on top of k8s deployments | 15:52 |
| DinaBelova | and check how we can make them performant and scalable (on both k8s and OpenStack side :) ) | 15:53 |
| DinaBelova | this require from us very advanced monitoring of everything that's happening on the env on three layers | 15:53 |
| DinaBelova | 1 system layer 2 k8s layer 3 OpenStack itself | 15:54 |
| DinaBelova | right now we're working on how we may achieve that kind of monitroing and what we need to measure using Prometheus | 15:54 |
| DinaBelova | as a monitoring solution | 15:54 |
| DinaBelova | and also we're trying to identify what test cases do we want to use | 15:55 |
| DinaBelova | in short that's all for now, as that's mostly research work :) | 15:55 |
| ad_rien_ | cool. | 15:55 |
| DinaBelova | I'll keep you folks updated about where are we each week | 15:55 |
| ad_rien_ | Do you know whether current actions on osprofiler will keep going | 15:56 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ yes, they will :) | 15:56 |
| msimonin | What tool are you usig to deploy openstack on kubernetes ? fuel ? | 15:56 |
| DinaBelova | slow enough ,but will | 15:56 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ our nova team kindly agreed to help finish work on the Nova+OSproflier change | 15:56 |
| ad_rien_ | DinaBelova: cool, we are interested by integrating OSprofiler with ENOS, we believe it will help to understand the performance results | 15:57 |
| DinaBelova | rpodolyaka ^^ | 15:57 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ sure :) | 15:57 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ I believe I'll cut new release of OSprofiler soon | 15:57 |
| DinaBelova | it will contain elastic search, Log Insight and Redis drivers for osprofiler | 15:57 |
| DinaBelova | that will make it more flexible for choosing the storage solution | 15:58 |
| DinaBelova | sai do you want to share what do you guys are planning to do in nearest future | 15:58 |
| DinaBelova | it looks like nope :D | 16:00 |
| DinaBelova | ok, so we may jump to Open Discussions part | 16:00 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Open Discussion | 16:00 |
| DinaBelova | anything else to share? | 16:00 |
| ad_rien_ | We have one question regarding the cell v2 | 16:00 |
| ad_rien_ | ? | 16:00 |
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| DinaBelova | sure | 16:00 |
| ad_rien_ | Actually, if we are correct Andrew left Mirantis ? | 16:01 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ yep, that's right | 16:01 |
| ad_rien_ | He was one of the key person of the cellV2? w | 16:01 |
| ad_rien_ | do you have any information regarding the future of cells V2 ? | 16:01 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ yeah... in fact I'm not sure what he will be focusing on in nearest future | 16:01 |
| DinaBelova | dims do you know anything about this? | 16:01 |
| DinaBelova | about cells V2 further development? | 16:02 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ lemme add action item on myself | 16:02 |
| ad_rien_ | At Inria we are definitely interested by all changes that the cell V2 feature implies. | 16:03 |
| DinaBelova | #action DinaBelova check what's going on with cells V2 development and if Andrew Laski is going to continue contributing out of Mirantis | 16:03 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ ack, got it | 16:03 |
| ad_rien_ | Especially because it can help (or increase the complexity) of managing an openstack deployment between several sites | 16:03 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ I'll check it offline and will share as soon as will have something | 16:03 |
| ad_rien_ | ok thanks | 16:03 |
| DinaBelova | ok, it looks like that's all for today | 16:04 |
| ad_rien_ | Ok second point | 16:04 |
| DinaBelova | I have nothing to add | 16:04 |
| DinaBelova | oh :) | 16:04 |
| DinaBelova | please go ahead | 16:04 |
| msimonin | :) | 16:04 |
| DinaBelova | sorry :) | 16:04 |
| msimonin | we can't stop ad_rien_ | 16:04 |
| ad_rien_ | Will we try to target a common goal as we did during the last cycle. | 16:04 |
| ad_rien_ | (if it makes sense obvisouly), I found this really cool. | 16:04 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ do you mean some common topic to work on, like 1000 node testing? | 16:05 |
| ad_rien_ | yes | 16:05 |
| ad_rien_ | by targetting a common goal, it motivates to collaborate and show the relevance of the WG. | 16:05 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ let's think about this :) right now all of us have their own priorities due to what companies we're working on want from us :D but I think that's possible for sure | 16:05 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ one thing I really want us to focus on is to have closer collaboration with LDT | 16:06 |
| ad_rien_ | great, I just wanted to raise that point just to be sure that we are not just doing on own actions on our side ;) | 16:06 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ well, in fact community is all about it :D and about people who want to work together on something :D | 16:06 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ let's try to find out what can be a common point for all of us | 16:07 |
| ad_rien_ | exactly, right now as you raised. Everyone (i.e. on his/her side) just presented the goals of his/her institutions | 16:07 |
| ad_rien_ | great ;) | 16:07 |
| ad_rien_ | Thanks DinaBelova | 16:07 |
| DinaBelova | sure :) | 16:07 |
| DinaBelova | ad_rien_ anything else? | 16:07 |
| ad_rien_ | no that's all thanks ;) | 16:08 |
| DinaBelova | ahaha, np :) | 16:08 |
| DinaBelova | thanks everyone for joining | 16:08 |
| DinaBelova | #endmeeting | 16:08 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 8 16:08:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/performance_team/2016/performance_team.2016-11-08-15.30.html | 16:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/performance_team/2016/performance_team.2016-11-08-15.30.txt | 16:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/performance_team/2016/performance_team.2016-11-08-15.30.log.html | 16:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dina Belova proposed openstack/performance-docs: Add Newton summit recap https://review.openstack.org/393918 | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dina Belova proposed openstack/performance-docs: Add new summit recaps part of documentation https://review.openstack.org/393538 | 20:08 |
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