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| gibi_cape | cdent: when do you plan to start discussing numa modelling stuff in the placement room? | 16:16 |
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| cdent | gibi_cape: when would you like to. We should probably pick a time as getting you and tetsuro in the same room at the same time would be good | 16:24 |
| cdent | getting efried in the same conversation would proabably also be good so we might want to try to coordinate with the nova timetable | 16:25 |
| gibi_cape | cdent: I'm free now until the nova team photo (11:50) | 16:26 |
| efried | cdent: What's this about? I expect tomorrow afternoon to open up, for what that's worth. | 16:26 |
| gibi_cape | to be clear when I said numa I should said nested magic | 16:27 |
| cdent | efried: tetsuro's message (and your response) on how to do the same_tree implementation | 16:27 |
| efried | ack | 16:27 |
| cdent | if we can nail down a slot tomorrow, that's probably best as on the fly doesn't seem to be working well | 16:27 |
| cdent | gibi_cape and tetsuro are you both around tomorrow? | 16:32 |
| gibi_cape | cdent: for me tomorrow 11:00 - 12:00 seems good | 16:36 |
| gibi_cape | to me | 16:36 |
| cdent | gibi_cape: any option to do it after 13:30, as efried might be able to be available then. If not, then that slot could be be made to work | 16:38 |
| gibi_cape | cdent: I have to leave around 15:00 tomorrow to catch my plane | 16:39 |
| gibi_cape | cdent: so 13:30 - 15:00 works for me | 16:40 |
| cdent | cool, let's do that, thank you | 16:40 |
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| klindgren | Hello placement folks. I have a question about running stein placement with pike level nova && neutron. What is my likelyhood for success here? | 16:41 |
| cdent | klindgren: one sec | 16:41 |
| cdent | gibi_cape: line 48 on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-ptg-train | 16:42 |
| cdent | efried, tetsuro, you too ^ | 16:42 |
| cdent | klindgren: theoretically it should "just work" because of the way microversions are used in placement | 16:43 |
| cdent | and because of the way placement is found via the service catalog in both nova and neutron | 16:44 |
| cdent | you'll need to do some tricks in nova to make sure you don't run the nova placement, but mostly that's "don't turn it on" | 16:44 |
| cdent | out of curiousity what's driving you wanting to do that? | 16:44 |
| klindgren | We saw some notes in the api-ref about not using micro versions > 1.18 and ones at or greater together on the same placement. | 16:45 |
| gibi_cape | cdent: ack thanks | 16:45 |
| klindgren | So we use kolla-ansible on the master branch to deploy. And the merged in a bunch of changes split placement out to its own service for stein | 16:45 |
| klindgren | Is the main driver. We could patch it back in with some local patches | 16:46 |
| klindgren | But just trying to keep the patch levels down if possible. | 16:46 |
| klindgren | Anyway just wanted a 'swag' at if it would probably work. Or if we were signing ourselves up for much misery. | 16:49 |
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| efried | cdent: ack, I'll trundle over once we close out deferred topics (I know of at least one) | 16:53 |
| cdent | efried: cool | 16:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-traits master: Dropping the py35 testing https://review.opendev.org/654651 | 18:31 |
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| efried | cdent: Thanks for the summary on nested topics | 19:33 |
| cdent | 'nother one coming soon | 19:33 |
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| efried | mnaser: btw, patch to delete placement from nova is +W, making its way through the gate. | 20:38 |
| mnaser | efried: cool, thanks for heads up. the work is almost done in OSA world :) | 20:38 |
| efried | good deal | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Use PlacementFixture in functional tests https://review.opendev.org/651939 | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | cdent: i think klindgren is asking about stein placement with pike nova because they want https://review.opendev.org/#/c/656885/ | 21:30 |
| mriedem | klindgren: pretty sure ^ won't work b/c you need at least rocky placement https://docs.openstack.org/placement/latest/placement-api-microversion-history.html#support-multiple-member-of-queryparams | 21:31 |
| mriedem | oh duh, | 21:31 |
| mriedem | so yeah stein placement, | 21:31 |
| mriedem | but pike nova won't know about that version and stuff | 21:32 |
| klindgren | Well that's one reason. But the real driver is kolla-ansible recent master merge which removed placement from nova. | 21:32 |
| mriedem | klindgren: i thought kolla-ansible said they supported the upgrade to extracted placement as well? | 21:32 |
| mriedem | anyway, as cdent said, nova talks to placement over microversions so pike nova shouldn't care if placement is newer | 21:33 |
| mriedem | the other way around would be a problem | 21:33 |
| klindgren | They do have the migration, but we are using kolla-ansible on master, with pike for nova/neutron | 21:33 |
| mriedem | do they stop/kill the placement-in-nova service during the migration? | 21:34 |
| mriedem | so you don't have placement running in two places? | 21:34 |
| klindgren | They do. But once the stein release got cut that got removed, so we are going to have to do that part ourselves. | 21:35 |
| klindgren | Which is fine, I just wanted to see if people though stein placement with pike nova/neutron would "just work" or would blow up in my face horribly :-D | 21:35 |
| klindgren | The answer appears to be "should just work, probably" :-D | 21:36 |
| mriedem | yup | 21:36 |
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| efried | cdent: I just abandoned a bunch of nova patches that touched nova-in-placement. I could probably have been more diligent and tracked down whether any of them were still relevant to the extracted placement code, but I didn't. If you have the time/inclination, you may wish to have a peek. | 21:42 |
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| cdent | efried: i'll look but I suspect it's fine | 21:44 |
| efried | cdent: | 21:44 |
| efried | https://review.opendev.org/472378 | 21:44 |
| efried | https://review.opendev.org/558014 | 21:44 |
| efried | https://review.opendev.org/564876 | 21:44 |
| efried | https://review.opendev.org/579163 | 21:44 |
| efried | https://review.opendev.org/598088 | 21:44 |
| cdent | thanks | 21:45 |
| efried | thanks for the followup cdent, appreciate it. | 21:52 |
| cdent | efried: yeah, those are all fine, left notes confirming a couple but otherwise didn't comment if there was nothing to say | 21:52 |
| efried | since we don't have +1 on abandoning | 21:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/placement master: WIP: Run nova-tox-functional-py36 in the placement gate https://review.opendev.org/657077 | 22:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/placement master: Run nova-tox-functional-py36 in the placement gate https://review.opendev.org/657077 | 23:19 |
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