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| adreznec | I don't think I'll have the bandwidth to make those kind of changes before next week | 14:29 |
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| thorst | so when esberglu gets back next week...his priorities are integrating your new server, then a power CI | 14:29 |
| thorst | and he'll work with you on it? | 14:29 |
| adreznec | new server? | 14:29 |
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| thorst | that DNS thing | 14:29 |
| adreznec | Ah, right | 14:29 |
| thorst | and apt-cache | 14:29 |
| efried | that sounds like lower priority. is it? | 14:29 |
| thorst | lower priority, sure...but it has the potential to shave 20-30 minutes off each run | 14:30 |
| thorst | and is now minimal effort to add in | 14:30 |
| adreznec | Well other than the fact that it should just be picked up in a redeploy | 14:30 |
| thorst | a day or so | 14:30 |
| thorst | (cause adreznec did all the real work) | 14:30 |
| adreznec | So yeah, I guess we're stuck polishing until next week | 14:30 |
| thorst | but we're in agreement on how to move forward. | 14:31 |
| adreznec | Okay then | 14:31 |
| adreznec | Let's see | 14:32 |
| adreznec | #topic CI Status | 14:32 |
| adreznec | Seems like things aren't doing too badly | 14:32 |
| thorst | adreznec: we definitely have some failures that aren't the patch | 14:32 |
| adreznec | We're doing worse than KVM | 14:32 |
| thorst | but generally....yeah, pretty good | 14:33 |
| adreznec | But better than hyper-v | 14:33 |
| thorst | I think that can be a lower priority at the moment. | 14:33 |
| adreznec | Definitely room for improvement but yeah, not top priority | 14:33 |
| thorst | ongoing optimization effort | 14:33 |
| efried | kvm aka the golden child | 14:33 |
| adreznec | Heh | 14:33 |
| thorst | and I wonder if we'll be doing better once we have that other server in place | 14:33 |
| efried | <rolls eyes> | 14:33 |
| thorst | to help reduce external dependencies | 14:33 |
| adreznec | Well that's the baseline, like it or not :P | 14:33 |
| adreznec | Possibly | 14:33 |
| efried | teacher's pet | 14:34 |
| adreznec | efried: Pretty much | 14:34 |
| adreznec | So yeah, I think unless something unravels this week we'll try and maintain status quo until esberglu returns | 14:34 |
| adreznec | and we have our next steps for when he returns | 14:35 |
| adreznec | Anything else on CI? | 14:35 |
| thorst | --- | 14:35 |
| efried | #action esberglu to publish CI results in Thai | 14:35 |
| adreznec | Lol | 14:36 |
| adreznec | #topic Ocata testing | 14:36 |
| adreznec | So I know we've been a bit fragmented this cycle, with a good chunk of active test (at least from the sde side) happening still on Newton | 14:37 |
| adreznec | Do we feel like we have any gaps in new function that we should be testing with? | 14:37 |
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| adreznec | thorst: Do you know if the neutron guys get anywhere addressing that OvS live migration downtime issue this cycle? | 14:38 |
| adreznec | otherwise from Nova it's mostly resource providers and placement stuff, which should be above us | 14:38 |
| thorst | adreznec: I haven't seen anything :-( | 14:38 |
| thorst | but I haven't done a good deal of research yet | 14:39 |
| adreznec | Ok | 14:39 |
| adreznec | We're basically 2 weeks out from O-3 | 14:40 |
| adreznec | So we'll definitely want to identify anything we think we need fixes with | 14:40 |
| efried | Do we have anything we need to get into ocata? | 14:40 |
| efried | Yeah, what he said | 14:40 |
| thorst | I don't know of anything at the moment | 14:40 |
| thorst | the GPFS cinder volume driver integration will likely go in pike | 14:41 |
| adreznec | What about the SSP vol adapter | 14:41 |
| thorst | need to ask Shyama actually about that | 14:41 |
| adreznec | Ok | 14:41 |
| thorst | and then the image cache... | 14:41 |
| adreznec | Yeah | 14:41 |
| adreznec | tjakobs is still working on that | 14:42 |
| adreznec | I think we're on track to get that in for sde mode | 14:42 |
| adreznec | VIOS bug there might keep it from getting in ocata for VIOSes though | 14:42 |
| thorst | adreznec: how to tell if true VIOS or SDE VIOS | 14:42 |
| thorst | I guess he can check that by looking at the is_mgmt_partition bit | 14:43 |
| adreznec | is management partition | 14:43 |
| adreznec | Yeah | 14:43 |
| thorst | good to know before I review that | 14:43 |
| adreznec | It's not that he's writing the code in a way to preclude it | 14:43 |
| adreznec | But he's having issues with cplv on VIOS and has put a defect in | 14:43 |
| adreznec | (he was out yesterday so not sure what the status of that is) | 14:44 |
| thorst | adreznec: OK - so just have him bug us when he's ready for reviews | 14:44 |
| adreznec | Yep | 14:44 |
| thorst | I'm so heads down on that gpfs cinder thing that I have neglected many other things | 14:44 |
| adreznec | Other than that I don't think there's anything else I'm aware of we're trying to get into Ocata from new function | 14:45 |
| adreznec | and CI doesn't seem to have pointed out any existing function we're broken with | 14:45 |
| adreznec | That we haven't already fixed, anyway | 14:45 |
| * adreznec looks at you, async power on job | 14:46 | |
| adreznec | So yeah. The only thing I'm not really sure how much testing we've gotten in on is the ceilometer-powervm support | 14:46 |
| adreznec | I've been using OSA almost exclusively without Ceilometer due to the fact that it blows up the disk on my environments | 14:47 |
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| thorst | adreznec: we should just kick off a patch | 14:47 |
| thorst | maybe update the requirements | 14:47 |
| thorst | but I do think it gets installed in the CI | 14:47 |
| adreznec | Yeah, it does | 14:47 |
| adreznec | But yeah, a reqs bump to match g-r is probably in order | 14:48 |
| thorst | across all the projects... | 14:48 |
| adreznec | I'll toss that on my backlog unless someone else wants to pick it up | 14:48 |
| adreznec | Eerily quiet | 14:49 |
| adreznec | :P | 14:49 |
| adreznec | All right | 14:49 |
| adreznec | #topic Open flooor | 14:49 |
| adreznec | Anything else people have? | 14:49 |
| thorst | just an idea on how we can decide future design decisions | 14:50 |
| thorst | seroyer and I were talking...when we have a binary decision like 'lets use X instead of Y' | 14:50 |
| thorst | rather than have a technical discussion on it | 14:50 |
| adreznec | http://justflipacoin.com/ | 14:50 |
| thorst | lets play overwatch instead, and if Team 1 wins, we choose X, and if Team 2 wins, we choose Y | 14:50 |
| adreznec | That seems reasonable | 14:51 |
| adreznec | If we're pressed for time, we can just pick a random twitch stream and skip to the end to see which team wins | 14:52 |
| adreznec | One other thing I've been thinking of | 14:53 |
| adreznec | When we land the base powervm driver in-tree (either in Ocata or Pike) | 14:54 |
| adreznec | Do we want to fold ceilometer-powervm into ceilometer proper? | 14:54 |
| thorst | adreznec: culture of ceilometer is that it is folded in | 14:54 |
| thorst | proper | 14:54 |
| adreznec | Since it should be usable with both | 14:54 |
| adreznec | Oh | 14:54 |
| efried | Do we need a separate blueprint for that? | 14:55 |
| adreznec | If we're good with that then I guess we can just leave it as-is | 14:55 |
| thorst | I'd say leave it for now | 14:55 |
| adreznec | Was just thinking it's one less project to maintain | 14:55 |
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| adreznec | For requirements, etc | 14:55 |
| thorst | fully agree... | 14:56 |
| adreznec | But we can re-address down the road | 14:56 |
| thorst | but they were moving towards a drivers should be out of tree | 14:56 |
| adreznec | Ah | 14:56 |
| thorst | at least they were when we started | 14:56 |
| adreznec | Yeah | 14:56 |
| adreznec | Ok | 14:57 |
| adreznec | that's all I had | 14:57 |
| thorst | I have a pypowervm q to efried | 14:57 |
| adreznec | Ok | 14:57 |
| thorst | do you know where we are with that patch that doesn't destroy a VIOS if it is hosted via another VIOS | 14:57 |
| adreznec | meeting over, back to your regularly scheduled channel | 14:57 |
| efried | thorst: bwarrum was working on that, but I haven't seen progress in a couple days. | 14:58 |
| efried | I'll circle back with him. | 14:58 |
| thorst | efried: thx | 15:00 |
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| efried | adreznec, thorst: I'd like to stack a system to test out the in-tree driver patches. Before I go down one or more of the ratholes I'm staring at, do y'all have any tips for what my local.conf should look like? | 16:05 |
| thorst | efried: I do not...I suspect similar but do not enable the out of tree driver bits in it. | 16:06 |
| thorst | and nova-compute might fail to start unless you get your patch pulled down prior to stacking | 16:06 |
| adreznec | thorst: Yeah, that's no different than any other in-dev patch though | 16:07 |
| efried | First patch has no network and no disk. So... will the spawn even "succeed"? | 16:07 |
| efried | I guess we'll power on, but the partition will sit in SMS/OF because no disk | 16:08 |
| adreznec | Yeah... | 16:08 |
| adreznec | I think it will still spawn though | 16:09 |
| efried | So do I just omit all the local.conf cruft about networking completely? | 16:09 |
| efried | Or will I still get an IP, just no plug? | 16:09 |
| adreznec | Well... if this system is in sde mode/using ovs I think that should be the default | 16:10 |
| efried | FIXED_RANGE=10.11.12.0/24 | 16:10 |
| efried | NETWORK_GATEWAY=10.11.12.1 | 16:10 |
| efried | FLAT_INTERFACE=ibmveth3 | 16:10 |
| efried | Q_PLUGIN=ml2 | 16:10 |
| efried | Q_ML2_TENANT_NETWORK_TYPE=vlan | 16:10 |
| efried | Q_ML2_PLUGIN_TYPE_DRIVERS=vlan | 16:10 |
| thorst | yeah, I'd toss out the local.conf stuff about networking | 16:10 |
| efried | Q_USE_PROVIDERNET_FOR_PUBLIC=False | 16:10 |
| efried | ENABLE_TENANT_VLANS=True | 16:10 |
| efried | PHYSICAL_NETWORK=default | 16:10 |
| efried | TENANT_VLAN_RANGE=1000:2000 | 16:10 |
| thorst | someone needs to learn pastebin.... | 16:10 |
| thorst | that just leave in...it won't hurt leaving it in, may break devstack taking it out | 16:10 |
| thorst | but the part where you enable pvm-sea or networking-powervm, you could probably take that out | 16:11 |
| adreznec | Well I mean most of those things should have defaults | 16:11 |
| thorst | (though again, maybe it doesn't hurt leaving it in) | 16:11 |
| adreznec | So they shouldn't be needed | 16:11 |
| adreznec | Since we're not doing anything with it anyway | 16:11 |
| efried | Not an SDE system, btw. Should it be? | 16:12 |
| adreznec | Well it could be SDN mode, but I don't think we're planning to support SEA networking initially... so it should definitely be running OVS | 16:12 |
| adreznec | Unless I'm wrong thorst | 16:12 |
| adreznec | If it's already a Novalink+VIOS setup it's probably easiest to test using Novalink w/ OVS networking and VIOS w/ localdisk storage I think | 16:13 |
| efried | First patch doesn't have any disk or networking. | 16:15 |
| adreznec | Sure first patch it won't matter, but if you set it up it should work for testing subsequent patches in the series | 16:15 |
| adreznec | and you can get away with minimal devstack configuration | 16:16 |
| thorst | I'm not sure on the OVS or SEA path initially | 16:19 |
| thorst | part of it will be how the os-vif stuff goes | 16:19 |
| thorst | but I wouldn't worry about it atm | 16:19 |
| thorst | baby steps | 16:19 |
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| efried | adreznec: thorst: where are we on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413736/ ? | 17:14 |
| thorst | I need to full review...I just wanted it passing CI first | 17:18 |
| thorst | which it did as of yesterday | 17:18 |
| thorst | so I guess its time to ... review | 17:18 |
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| thorst | efried: that's really it??? | 17:21 |
| thorst | I can't believe we don't have more changes... | 17:21 |
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| efried | thorst, it's because we've got the namespace shim in place to make it part of nova.virt | 17:21 |
| efried | We don't need to change any of the nova_powervm.virt namespace. | 17:21 |
| thorst | ahh, so we leave nova_powervm.virt.powervm | 17:22 |
| efried | yup | 17:22 |
| thorst | and the shim is all that changes | 17:22 |
| thorst | elegant... | 17:22 |
| efried | :) | 17:22 |
| efried | Silver lining to the scramble from the Austin summit ;-) | 17:22 |
| thorst | I'm kind of shocked that we don't have any CI impacts | 17:22 |
| thorst | I thought for sure that would blow up | 17:22 |
| efried | All that had to change there was the `compute_driver = powervm_ext.driver.PowerVMDriver` | 17:23 |
| efried | via devstack/settings | 17:23 |
| efried | and setup.cfg | 17:24 |
| thorst | yeah yeah...I'm just trying to figure out why that didn't blow up | 17:24 |
| thorst | and I see why now | 17:24 |
| thorst | our CI just says 'enable_plugin nova_powervm xyz' | 17:24 |
| thorst | which then pulls down the devstack/settings | 17:24 |
| thorst | got it | 17:24 |
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| thorst | I put a -1 | 17:32 |
| thorst | small nit | 17:32 |
| thorst | then I'm +2, but I think adreznec should also do a review | 17:32 |
| efried | thorst, I'm not clear what you're suggesting - just change the title of that section to "Upgrade Considerations"? | 17:32 |
| thorst | yep | 17:33 |
| thorst | basically | 17:33 |
| thorst | or make a document called 'UPGRADE.rst' or something | 17:33 |
| efried | okay. And the rewrite... what are you looking for there? | 17:33 |
| thorst | nothing, that's more a note to self | 17:33 |
| thorst | about that whole doc | 17:33 |
| thorst | but that doc as is...I don't know that its a good readme for new users coming in | 17:34 |
| thorst | it may be...I'm not sure | 17:34 |
| efried | k | 17:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova-powervm: Change namespace to nova.virt.powervm_ext https://review.openstack.org/413736 | 17:34 |
| efried | I have yet to push anything to the mailing list. Do you want me to get set up to do that, or does one of y'all want to take care of it? | 17:35 |
| thorst | efried: you cool doing a mailing list note on this? I doubt anyone will respond...but its the nice thing to do | 17:35 |
| thorst | efried: I think you should, given it'll be more common for you with the in-tree driver focus | 17:35 |
| efried | I don't mind doing it in theory, but I'm led to understand there's all kinds of setup and protocol necessary. | 17:35 |
| thorst | basically, lotus notes is evil | 17:36 |
| efried | Well, as I understand it, one shouldn't mail from one's work email anyway. | 17:36 |
| thorst | I don't think that matters... | 17:36 |
| thorst | most people set up a LTC e-mail id | 17:36 |
| efried | They're always saying to create a personal account so you can keep your reputation/personality if you change companies and continue to work in the community. | 17:36 |
| thorst | which can be done in relatively short order. | 17:36 |
| thorst | yeah, you could do that. I don't know that everyone has done that. | 17:37 |
| thorst | I do that for like my github account | 17:37 |
| efried | Do I have to be registered with the mailing list to post to it, or can I just post to it? | 17:37 |
| efried | I'll look at the ref material... | 17:38 |
| thorst | yeah...not sure off hand | 17:39 |
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| efried | thorst adreznec http://pastebin.com/9HkDDBNZ | 17:53 |
| efried | ? | 17:53 |
| thorst | maybe something additional of, 'As you plan upgrades from newton to ocata, please change the nova compute driver to powervm_ext.' | 17:54 |
| thorst | and hop in #openstack-powervm for q's? | 17:54 |
| adreznec | Sorry, was grabbing lunch | 17:58 |
| efried | thorst: http://pastebin.com/247gdQCx | 17:58 |
| adreznec | That seems reasonable. | 17:59 |
| thorst | yep | 17:59 |
| adreznec | What tags are you planning to put on the subject? | 17:59 |
| thorst | and monitor for responses | 17:59 |
| efried | [openstack] [PowerVM OOT Driver] FYI: PowerVM out-of-tree driver namespace changing | 18:00 |
| adreznec | I might just do [openstack][nova][powervm] for tags | 18:01 |
| efried | too late ;-) | 18:01 |
| adreznec | Heh, ok | 18:02 |
| efried | ...unless it kicks back because my personal account isn't subscribed. | 18:02 |
| efried | guess we'll see. | 18:02 |
| efried | yup, rejected. | 18:02 |
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| thorst | efried: no luck with e-mail yet/ | 20:35 |
| efried | thorst, I sent it. | 20:35 |
| efried | I didn't know if it would be normal for me to get my own email back from the list - but I haven't. | 20:35 |
| thorst | I haven't gotten it yet... adreznec did you? | 20:36 |
| efried | And my work account is set up to get digests, so I wasn't expecting to see it for a while. | 20:36 |
| adreznec | I didn't see anything... let me double check | 20:36 |
| efried | ahcrap. | 20:37 |
| efried | I hadn't sent it yet. | 20:37 |
| efried | NOW I've sent it. | 20:37 |
| thorst | lol | 20:38 |
| thorst | probably takes a while to push out... | 20:41 |
| adreznec | Whee | 20:43 |
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| efried | Guess maybe I was supposed to omit [openstack]. Or maybe put spaces between [tag]s? | 21:02 |
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| efried | thorst, adreznec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391288/ tested and working. Ready for a real review, I think. | 22:18 |
| adreznec | efried: Awesome, will check it out in a bit | 22:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Reznechek proposed openstack/nova-powervm: Update to match latest global-requirements https://review.openstack.org/418616 | 23:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Reznechek proposed openstack/networking-powervm: Update to match latest global-requirements https://review.openstack.org/418617 | 23:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Reznechek proposed openstack/ceilometer-powervm: Update to match latest global-requirements https://review.openstack.org/418618 | 23:26 |
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