Wednesday, 2017-07-05

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thorst_efried: 553116:59
edmondswthorst_ 551817:21
thorst_LGTM17:23
edmondswthorst_ I commented on 553117:32
thorst_thx17:32
thorst_also 553317:38
edmondswesberglu could we run CI with 5518 before merging?17:38
edmondswwhat's the best way to do that?17:39
esbergluedmondsw: I can put a manual run through with it17:58
edmondswesberglu tx17:58
edmondswesberglu are the tests in 5534 new, or why are we just needing to skip them now?18:58
efriedthorst_ Whoah19:43
thorst_whoah what?19:43
efriedthorst_ Whoah assuming my partition ID is 1 if the lparcfg file doesn't exist.19:44
thorst_heh19:44
thorst_I thought you'd hate on that19:44
thorst_nvcastet was asking me why such a small change would take so much time19:44
thorst_and I told him, I'm channeling my inner efried19:45
efriedthorst_ Okay, so talk me through the possibilities here.19:45
thorst_distro just doesn't populate it.19:46
efriedAre they just 1) running nvl on a distro that doesn't have that file; and 2) running remote API?19:46
thorst_we're remote (ex. running from my laptop)19:46
thorst_those were all I could really think of19:46
thorst_the alternative I could think of is returning the value from get_mgmt_partition...but I didn't really like that19:47
efriedthorst_ So my main concern is future redundancy.19:48
thorst_hmm19:50
thorst_well, the redundancy there will be I/O19:50
thorst_I don't think nova-powervm will ever run on a redundant LPAR19:50
thorst_(to my knowledge)19:50
thorst_I guess anything is possible19:50
efriedThat's an interesting discussion.19:51
thorst_yeah19:51
efriedGot a few minutes to do a brainstorm on the phone?19:51
thorst_I mean, isn't the only reason we coded that the way we did is for the CI?19:51
thorst_sure, though my voice is kinda going out19:51
thorst_give me a ring19:51
efriedmm, we can do it here.19:51
efriedSo the point of redundancy is what?19:52
efriedTo keep the VMs going if one of the I/O servers goes away?19:52
efriedOr to keep the compute service responsive?19:52
efriedWhat happens in other drivers if the compute service on a host stops responding, but the VMs are still okay?  Can that even happen?19:53
thorst_I/O19:53
thorst_if the management layer gets restarted or what not...peace.  We can deal with that because we have other hosts in the pool that can take new VM requests19:54
thorst_but you really, ideally, don't want the I/O to the VM going out19:54
thorst_then you have to start doing things like remote rebuild, LPM, possibly client VM outages, etc...19:54
thorst_actual workload impacts.19:54
thorst_that jumps from inconvenience to big deal territory19:54
efriedSo we really have a primary and a backup, and if the primary goes down, the backup picks up the I/O just long enough for us to get the primary back (how?).  The nvl and openstack services run only on the primary.19:57
thorst_so that's magic of the hypervisor19:58
thorst_I think for storage its just standard MPIO19:58
thorst_network is black magic that I won't pretend to understand completely19:58
efriedthorst_ No MPIO for localdisk.  For SSP it's literally vscsi connections to both I/O servers.20:00
thorst_that's MPIO20:00
efriedHeck, I don't even know if that works.20:00
thorst_it does.20:01
efriedI don't see how OVS is going to do redundancy.20:05
thorst_yikes...OVS is ... a challenge20:06
thorst_there will be tears20:06
esbergluedmondsw: 5518 ran through no issues20:29
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edmondswesberglu thanks! I'll go ahead and merge then21:26
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