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| esberglu | fried_rice: edmondsw: By having remote pypowervm set up before stacking I think we can also get rid of the discover_hosts loop post stack. | 15:29 |
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| esberglu | Setting up the environment files beforehand allowed stacking with that patch that broke us | 15:29 |
| fried_rice | esberglu Sweet. | 15:30 |
| edmondsw | excellent | 15:33 |
| esberglu | fried_rice: edmondsw: 5617 for the above. Still need to put it through a full CI run though | 15:48 |
| edmondsw | esberglu commented | 15:56 |
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| esberglu | edmondsw: Replied | 16:07 |
| edmondsw | esberglu couldn't you sudo the touch and iniset, and then remove both chowns? | 16:09 |
| edmondsw | if not, don't you need to chown the files as well as the dir back to root at the end? | 16:10 |
| esberglu | edmondsw: Yeah I added a second comment just now with chown fix. Nope sudo touch/iniset doesn't work. | 16:11 |
| esberglu | The sudo iniset fails | 16:11 |
| edmondsw | k | 16:11 |
| esberglu | I think because the source of iniset doesn't apply to sudo | 16:11 |
| esberglu | I was getting an iniset command not found when I tried that | 16:11 |
| edmondsw | yeah | 16:12 |
| esberglu | edmondsw: Perhaps you know a way to get that source to work with sudo? I didn't find anything with a quick google search | 16:13 |
| edmondsw | sudo source /opt/stack/devstack/inc/ini-config && iniset ... ? | 16:14 |
| esberglu | sudo source doesn't work | 16:14 |
| esberglu | sudo: source: command not found | 16:14 |
| edmondsw | sudo . /opt/stack/devstack/inc/ini-config && iniset ... ? | 16:14 |
| edmondsw | may have the same problem | 16:14 |
| esberglu | sudo . /opt/stack/devstack/inc/ini-config | 16:15 |
| edmondsw | I never use source, just . | 16:15 |
| esberglu | oops | 16:15 |
| esberglu | Yeah same issue. Are you cool with just chown to jenkins as long as I fix the chown back to root? | 16:15 |
| edmondsw | not sure what the underlying mechanism is, but . saves me 5 characters :) | 16:15 |
| edmondsw | yeah | 16:15 |
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| fried_rice | I thought iniset takes a -sudo arg | 16:31 |
| fried_rice | yeah | 16:31 |
| fried_rice | https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/inc/ini-config#L169 | 16:32 |
| fried_rice | esberglu_lunch edmondsw ^ | 16:32 |
| fried_rice | edmondsw source and . are the same. | 16:32 |
| edmondsw | that's what I figured | 16:33 |
| edmondsw | one is just faster to type :) | 16:33 |
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| thorst_ | fried_rice edmondsw: You should read back on #openstack-meeting. Looks like ceilometer-powervm has some issues | 16:51 |
| fried_rice | thorst_ The releaseteam meeting? | 16:51 |
| thorst_ | yeah | 16:52 |
| thorst_ | I just saw we were tagged...reading through it a bit more | 16:52 |
| fried_rice | Yup, I'll fup in -releases with those guys. | 16:53 |
| fried_rice | -release rather | 16:53 |
| thorst_ | muchos gracias | 16:54 |
| thorst_ | fried_rice: maybe the question for ceilometer is should we now go into the main ceilometer branch? They didn't want us doing that initially because they wanted decomposition. Maybe that changed. But I think that this is just a 'its not part of the tent' thing instead. | 16:56 |
| fried_rice | Join us in -release | 16:57 |
| fried_rice | I don't know anything about the history. | 16:57 |
| fried_rice | And precious little about the project, for that matter. | 16:57 |
| fried_rice | I just know dhellman, ttx, and smcginnis ;-) | 16:57 |
| thorst_ | let me add the channel...sec | 16:57 |
| thorst_ | eavesdrop hasn't caught up yet... | 16:58 |
| fried_rice | esberglu_lunch It sounds like we were supposed to be tagging our releases of ceilometer-powervm via the official openstack release process (https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html) | 17:05 |
| fried_rice | Apparently that one is special because it's an official project (whereas the other -powervms aren't). | 17:05 |
| thorst_ | so a bit of background here. | 17:05 |
| fried_rice | yes please | 17:05 |
| thorst_ | when we were first doing the ceilometer bits for powervm we asked to be part of ceilometer proper | 17:06 |
| thorst_ | after some back and forths, the ceilometer team (gordc really at the time) encouraged us to be a decomposed project, as that was what they wanted at the time | 17:06 |
| thorst_ | it would let us be our own +2's, we'd stick to the API, etc... | 17:06 |
| thorst_ | similar to the neutron model. | 17:06 |
| thorst_ | but I think ceilometer-powervm is under the tent, where as neutron doesn't do that for decomposed projects | 17:06 |
| thorst_ | and that's why I think it needs to be adhered to with the release model more closely | 17:07 |
| thorst_ | but to be fair, I think all the -powervm projects should do that. | 17:07 |
| thorst_ | https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html | 17:07 |
| thorst_ | edmondsw: ^^ when you get time, your input would be good too. | 17:07 |
| fried_rice | I'm looking at the history of ceilometer-powervm, and since newton, as far as I can see, there's only been one change set that did anything with real function. | 17:08 |
| fried_rice | All the rest (and even arguably that one) we would have gotten for free if we were part of ceilometer proper. | 17:08 |
| fried_rice | shoot, even as far back as mitaka. | 17:09 |
| thorst_ | right, it's been a super stable project | 17:10 |
| thorst_ | don't take lack of change as a bad thing | 17:10 |
| fried_rice | IOW, whatever benefit we've been getting from being separate is probably diminished to zero at this point. | 17:10 |
| fried_rice | Oh, definitely. | 17:10 |
| thorst_ | fried_rice: well, the only challenge I suppose is that we do at some point want to get SR-IOV ism's in there | 17:11 |
| thorst_ | but that's always been lower priority. | 17:11 |
| fried_rice | And what's the cost? Having to have the ceilometer cores do our +2s/+As? I think I'd be okay with that (to be fair, not having seen how much volume they have or how quickly they approve stuff). | 17:12 |
| thorst_ | fried_rice: yeah. | 17:12 |
| fried_rice | We would have to twiddle the CI, but having done nova in-tree, I'm confident that's doable. | 17:12 |
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| thorst_ | totes | 17:12 |
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| esberglu | thorst_: fried_rice: Yeah that would be super easy from a CI perspective | 17:13 |
| thorst_ | esberglu: lets do this then....at least to start. | 17:14 |
| thorst_ | lets turn on our CI for ceilometer proper | 17:14 |
| thorst_ | and see what it does to our workload. | 17:14 |
| fried_rice | ++ good call | 17:14 |
| thorst_ | our CI is configured to install ceilometer now, right? | 17:14 |
| fried_rice | yes | 17:14 |
| thorst_ | you're sure? | 17:14 |
| fried_rice | Well, I used the CI's local.conf and got it when I stacked my victim, so... | 17:14 |
| thorst_ | I mean it should be, I just don't recall... | 17:14 |
| thorst_ | k | 17:15 |
| fried_rice | enable_plugin ceilometer https://git.openstack.org/openstack/ceilometer.git | 17:15 |
| fried_rice | that's it, right? | 17:15 |
| thorst_ | well, but ceilometer-powervm too | 17:15 |
| fried_rice | enable_plugin ceilometer-powervm https://git.openstack.org/openstack/ceilometer-powervm.git | 17:15 |
| thorst_ | yeah, I think that's all | 17:15 |
| fried_rice | we're disabling ceilometer-aipmi | 17:15 |
| fried_rice | but that's the only ceilometerish one we're disabling. | 17:16 |
| thorst_ | yeah, I think that was the ipmi interface. | 17:16 |
| esberglu | thorst_: fried_rice: Regarding the official release bit. Since I already tagged releases we should be good for rc-3 right? Just adhere to that in the future | 17:16 |
| thorst_ | which I don't think we want. | 17:16 |
| fried_rice | esberglu Yes, I think this is a Queens-and-forward statement. Let me double check, though. | 17:16 |
| esberglu | thorst_: fried_rice: ceilometer has been running silently in CI for a while already | 17:21 |
| esberglu | Same with neutron | 17:21 |
| thorst_ | :-) so we're good bandwidth wise | 17:22 |
| fried_rice | sweet | 17:22 |
| esberglu | Are you wanting turn on voting like is done for nova proper? | 17:22 |
| edmondsw | reading back | 17:22 |
| fried_rice | Not sure we're quite ready for that - I think we would want to initiate the discussion with gordc about integrating into ceilometer first. | 17:22 |
| esberglu | fried_rice: Yeah I believe there are requirements before ceilometer would let us do that anyways. I can look into what those are | 17:23 |
| thorst_ | fried_rice: we should chat with gordc at the PTG and get his views | 17:24 |
| esberglu | I'm assuming they are at least similar to nova | 17:24 |
| thorst_ | or at least just have a quick chat in the ceilometer room. | 17:24 |
| thorst_ | I don't think its super pressing | 17:24 |
| fried_rice | thorst_ Whenever you're ready. | 17:24 |
| thorst_ | no, I meant at ptg | 17:24 |
| fried_rice | No, but while it's on our minds. | 17:24 |
| fried_rice | oh | 17:24 |
| thorst_ | the physical room | 17:24 |
| thorst_ | I know you're not used to those anymore | 17:24 |
| fried_rice | Places where I have to shave? | 17:25 |
| thorst_ | as a software engineer, you never have to shave | 17:26 |
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| edmondsw | ok, caught up... sounds like the conclusion in openstack-meeting would be fine by us | 17:29 |
| edmondsw | and we just need to figure out what to do for queens | 17:29 |
| edmondsw | conversation with ceilometer at the PTG seems right to me | 17:29 |
| thorst_ | yep. Release thing and then a discussion with ceilometer at the PTG if we should fold in or not. I'm 100% indifferent btw on that one | 17:30 |
| edmondsw | let me see if there's a ceilometer ptg etherpad we can throw this on... | 17:30 |
| fried_rice | ++ | 17:30 |
| edmondsw | doesn't seem to be one yet: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Queens/Etherpads | 17:31 |
| edmondsw | hmm... doesn't seem like there was one for Pike, either | 17:32 |
| edmondsw | and now that I think of it, I don't remember seeing any of the ceilometer guys in Atlanta... I think they may have skipped it | 17:32 |
| edmondsw | we'd probably better initiate the convo on IRC, at least to ask whether they'll be at the PTG to discuss there | 17:33 |
| edmondsw | was there a reason we didn't just want to have the convo on irc en totale, thorst? | 17:33 |
| fried_rice | thorst_ probably wanted to make a slide deck about it. | 17:33 |
| edmondsw | lol | 17:33 |
| thorst_ | lol | 17:33 |
| thorst_ | o man...too true too true. | 17:33 |
| thorst_ | nah, it just didn't seem super pressing | 17:34 |
| edmondsw | agree on that | 17:34 |
| fried_rice | Yeah, exactly, I'm predicting if we don't do it now, we won't bother at the PTG, and it'll never happen. | 17:34 |
| fried_rice | Which isn't necessarily a problem. | 17:34 |
| fried_rice | Just kind of might as well while we're thinking about it, kind of thing. | 17:34 |
| fried_rice | But whatever. | 17:34 |
| thorst_ | yeah, I guess my indifference is getting me on this. I think they're indifferent too btw. But I mean it can't hurt to ask. | 17:34 |
| thorst_ | it's more like a verification that 'this is still cool, right?' | 17:35 |
| fried_rice | I think gordc is at lunch. Let's revisit in an hour. | 17:35 |
| edmondsw | looks like their team meeting is Thursdays at 11am EDT | 17:35 |
| edmondsw | openstack-meeting channel | 17:36 |
| thorst_ | yeah, we can poke in afterhis lunch and just give him a quick ask. I'm basically booked for day in 1.5 hours though :-( | 17:36 |
| edmondsw | think Friday? ;) | 17:37 |
| thorst_ | meeting friday. | 17:37 |
| thorst_ | but I'm going to go code for an hour...living the dream for a little bit | 17:37 |
| edmondsw | enjoy | 17:38 |
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| fried_rice | thorst_ gordc is back | 18:21 |
| thorst_ | fried_rice: rgr | 18:24 |
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