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| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Venkat proposed openstack/nova-powervm master: Support maximum capacity for SR-IOV VNIC https://review.openstack.org/541387 | 13:15 |
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| efried | edmondsw: Nice response from ttx there. Home run, well done. | 14:24 |
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| edmondsw | efried tx | 14:26 |
| efried | edmondsw: Also thanks for addressing that debian folder business. I was totally clueless. | 14:27 |
| edmondsw | efried we'll see how that goes... I wouldn't call it addressed yet :) | 14:27 |
| edmondsw | flipping over to slack so we can pull Julio into that convo | 14:27 |
| efried | Okay, thanks for even knowing how to respond at all. | 14:27 |
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| edmondsw | efried does u-c have to update pypowervm to 1.1.11 before we can propose a version bump in g-r to the same? | 15:53 |
| edmondsw | I would think so... | 15:53 |
| edmondsw | but u-c just updates on its own, so we have to wait for that, or should I propose that first, and then propose g-r update? | 15:53 |
| efried | We're supposed to wait for the bot to propose the u-c bump, then propose the g-r bump on top of that. | 15:54 |
| efried | Though I have been told (don't remember by whom, but somebody important) that we don't *have* to wait for the bot to propose the former. | 15:54 |
| efried | but they are supposed to be separate patches. | 15:54 |
| edmondsw | will have to update g-r before we can merge the svenkat's nova-powervm change | 15:55 |
| edmondsw | svenkat you ok waiting a few days for that? | 15:56 |
| svenkat | edmondsw: yes… I am fine, it is not needed immediately. | 15:56 |
| * edmondsw has promoted svenkat to "the svenkat" ;) | 15:56 | |
| edmondsw | cool, will wait then | 15:56 |
| svenkat | !! | 15:56 |
| openstack | svenkat: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 15:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Taylor Jakobson proposed openstack/nova-powervm master: Refactor volume drivers https://review.openstack.org/530816 | 17:29 |
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| edmondsw | efried svenkat I was chatting with the requirements folks... u-c changes are still locked down even though they've branched stable/queens | 19:06 |
| svenkat | ok… | 19:06 |
| edmondsw | this is so that cycle-trailing projects (which don't branch until after release, within 2 weeks) aren't seeing rocky requirements | 19:07 |
| edmondsw | so we'll have to wait a couple weeks for them to open that back up | 19:07 |
| svenkat | ok… | 19:07 |
| edmondsw | they say osa has already branched, so just puppet and tripleo left to branch and then they can open it up | 19:08 |
| edmondsw | the 2 weeks after release is an "at the latest" figure | 19:09 |
| edmondsw | efried do you know if we support cold migration in the OOT driver? | 19:37 |
| efried | remind me what "cold migration" really means? | 19:37 |
| edmondsw | efried migration while the VM is powered down | 19:38 |
| efried | Right, but how does that translate to nova-isms? | 19:38 |
| edmondsw | I'm not sure | 19:38 |
| edmondsw | mdrabe do you know? | 19:39 |
| edmondsw | I know we don't support cold migrate in PowerVC, but I'm not sure about the driver itself | 19:39 |
| mdrabe | It's more or less a rebuild on a new host I always thought | 19:39 |
| efried | edmondsw: From really old notes I have, it's implemented through migrate_disk_and_power_off. Which I believe we implement. | 19:40 |
| edmondsw | efried hmmm... I see that used in the resize flow | 19:41 |
| edmondsw | which is definitely live | 19:41 |
| efried | I'm not sure actually. | 19:41 |
| efried | Cold migrate might be "power off and resize to another host" | 19:41 |
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| edmondsw | efried per thorst we do support cold migration out of tree | 20:36 |
| efried | coo | 20:37 |
| edmondsw | efried I proposed the bp for rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545111/ | 20:37 |
| edmondsw | talking with thorst, I kept it more general as to whether we'd do resize vs/ rebuild and cold vs. live migration | 20:37 |
| edmondsw | so we have some flexibility there | 20:37 |
| edmondsw | he is also thinking that we should not bother with the slot stuff as we move this IT | 20:38 |
| edmondsw | since that is an unsolved problem in nova in general (boo) | 20:38 |
| edmondsw | so skin it more globally later | 20:38 |
| efried | edmondsw: Gonna put this comment here rather than in the spec: | 20:40 |
| efried | You'll get easier traction if you resist the temptation to fix spelling, grammar, sentence structure, and other things not directly related to the content. | 20:41 |
| efried | i.e. smallest viable diff (which shall henceforth be abbreviated SVD) | 20:41 |
| edmondsw | yeah... it's just such a strong urge... ;) | 20:42 |
| efried | oh, I know. | 20:42 |
| edmondsw | I didn't think the little I did of that here made much difference... at least I hope not | 20:42 |
| efried | no, but you want mriedem to say "here's the diff, it's small, fast approving" | 20:43 |
| efried | If the diff doesn't fit on one page... | 20:43 |
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| edmondsw | efried it can't... the use cases, proposal, and workitems have to be different on multiple lines because we were so specific in the last BP | 20:43 |
| edmondsw | plus you have to replace Queens with Rocky everywhere... | 20:44 |
| efried | edmondsw: Do we really want localdisk? Why? | 20:45 |
| edmondsw | efried because ssp sucks? | 20:45 |
| efried | whoah, whoah, what? | 20:45 |
| efried | SSP is awesome | 20:45 |
| edmondsw | not if you talk to customers | 20:45 |
| efried | VIOS VG is better?? | 20:45 |
| efried | You got a way to thin clone a VG? | 20:46 |
| efried | or do you like your deploys taking minutes instead of seconds? | 20:46 |
| edmondsw | I don't know either way... I just know a lot of customers hate SSP | 20:46 |
| efried | It's a minor PITA to set up, but once it's running... | 20:46 |
| efried | Anyway, what customers are we concerned about using in-tree? | 20:46 |
| edmondsw | (if you can keep it running) | 20:46 |
| efried | Just sayin, if we're talking priorities, I would put that pretty low. | 20:46 |
| edmondsw | I asked thorst about it and he thought it would be a good one, so I put it in | 20:47 |
| edmondsw | it's also easier to use with PoCs, right? | 20:48 |
| efried | I suppose. | 20:51 |
| edmondsw | efried at the last PTG I threw something on the agenda to walk through what we did in Pike and what we planned to do in Queens. | 20:55 |
| edmondsw | But I won't be at this PTG so can't do something similar. | 20:55 |
| edmondsw | can you cover that, or think it's not necessary? | 20:55 |
| efried | No opinion. | 20:56 |
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| efried | edmondsw: I'm responding. | 22:51 |
| efried | Well, at least to the first one. | 22:52 |
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