Tuesday, 2017-02-21

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eranromA mac charger was found in the dining room. It can be found at the reception01:17
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gmannQA community feedback sessions now @ Macon - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-ptg-pike-community-input14:01
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cdentapi-wg and arch-wg are talking about capabilities in georgia 514:03
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med_mriedem, yep, Alma Cocina was pretty good. Jay Pipes had a table full of people also.14:13
mriedemmed_: jaypipes attracts a table full of people regardless of the quality of the restaurant14:14
mriedemjay has a certain jenesequa14:14
med_<snort>14:15
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* dims waves to everyone from ATL14:20
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dimsmriedem : LOL, yes, he does14:20
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dasmdims: part of everyone waves back :)14:21
dims:)14:22
dasmfyi: if anyone will be looking for nice place for a dinner, i recommend truva: https://goo.gl/maps/WweqUEcrWfN2 (like 3 mins by walk from Sheraton). Mediterranean/Turkish cuisine. A lot of vegetarian and not only.14:22
rosmaitadasm: how was the dancing?14:23
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dasmrosmaita: didn't see any. but after reading reviews, i've noticed that there should be :D14:24
dasmrosmaita: probably i'll need to  go back there, just for the dancers ;)14:24
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rosmaitaguess we should call ahead and find out when the dancing starts14:24
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dasm+114:25
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bastafidliarchitecture wg now started topic capabilities14:27
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dimsdasm : ah nice (since i am a vegetarian)14:29
mriedemrosmaita: dulek: we're talking api capabilities now if you aren't in here14:29
mriedemgeorgia 5, level 114:30
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mriedemnotmyname: ^14:30
bauzasis it me or the network in Georgia 5 is horribly slow ?14:30
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bauzasat least it's flakey14:32
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med_stevemar, dtroyer I'm reviewing the evac/mig commands still.  dansmith also provides some useful background here: http://www.danplanet.com/blog/2016/03/03/evacuate-in-nova-one-command-to-confuse-us-all/ using that as a reference14:35
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med_not sure if dasm is also dansmith... <shrug>14:35
notmynamemriedem: thanks14:35
dasmmed_: nope :)14:35
med_kk, maybe he's J Matt14:36
rosmaitamriedem: thanks, am here14:36
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mriedemdansmith is dansmith except for when he's superdan14:37
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notmynamemriedem: when I stuck my head in earlier, it seems to be a discussion about a nova API feature ;-)14:37
mriedemnotmyname: we tend to get off on examples and complexity when this comes up14:38
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ttxPSA: the second batch of stickers will be available on Wednesday14:39
clarkbor damnsmith14:39
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ttxAlso PTLs can pick up a private stack to make sure their team members get some14:39
ttxjust ask registration14:39
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dimsnotmyname : earlier it was about how to api stability/interop (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-architecture-workgroup), now talking about a concept of capabilities that can be exposed to horizon (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/capabilities-pike)14:40
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notmynamedims: thanks for the clicky links14:41
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dimsdhellmann : which room are you at?14:45
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oansonHi, everyone. We're having a discussion about Kuryr+Dragonflow+K8S (and L7 Load balancing) today in Savannah 3 at 13:30. Everyone's invited. Link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dragonflow-l7lbaas14:51
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oansonSorry, I mean tomorrow at 11:00 in the Dragonflow room14:54
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stevemarany glancers around?15:24
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stevemarnikhil: ?15:24
stevemarrosmaita: :)15:24
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rosmaitastevemar: hello15:25
stevemarrosmaita: where are you hiding? i'd like to talk in person if possible15:25
med_stevemar, no "namespaces" have been created in our glance.15:25
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med_looks like the md commands require them15:26
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nikhilstevemar: yo, I'm at level 2. Where you guys meeting?15:27
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stevemarnikhil: level 1, in atlanta 215:28
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nikhilstevemar: brt15:29
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rosmaitastevemar: sorry, got disconnected15:37
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rosmaitastevemar: i am in georgia 415:37
stevemarrosmaita: np, i got nikhil here15:37
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andreafQA Team, kind reminder 11:30 in the Grand ballroom A (Close to the top of the staircase) for the team photo15:56
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apricenotmyname: we have your computer cord at the registration desk16:08
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notmynameaprice: thanks!!16:19
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fungiqa/infra job failure debugging inservice begins in 4 minutes in the macon room on level 218:26
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mriedemSpamapS: are we doing hierarchical quotas in the arch wg at some point?18:27
mriedemsmcginnis: ^?18:27
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SpamapSmriedem: sure! let's aim for 3:00pm.18:29
mriedemsounds good18:29
mriedemi'll spam the list18:29
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SpamapSsweet18:29
ttxSpamapS: or you could do that at 2pm and do barbican at 3pm18:29
ttxI might be able to join at 3pm18:29
ttxbut not at 2pm18:29
mriedemi don't think we'll have all of the people at 2pm18:30
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ttxok, ignore me then18:30
SpamapSttx: I will ACK you, and _then_ ignore you. :)18:30
mriedemclarkb and the infra gang are stealing the show right now18:30
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ttxSpamapS: I'll let you do the data collection on barbican then :P18:31
notmynamettx: SpamapS: what's the barbican discussion?18:31
mriedemrosmaita: dstanek: breton: nikhil: fyi hierarchical quotas in georgia 4 at 3pm18:31
notmynamemriedem: I'm interesting in hierarchical quotas, too (I think)18:32
ttxnotmyname: discussing if services can/should rely on barbican more18:32
ttxor if barbican has limitations, express them clearly18:33
rosmaitamriedem: ty18:33
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nikhilmriedem: awesome, thanks18:33
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ttxdims: can you join us in release management room ?18:33
notmynamettx: ok. talking to somoeone from swift about the barbican discussion18:33
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bretonmriedem: ok. What's going to be now, at 1:30?18:34
ttxnotmyname: in summary: do we need secrets storage, is barbican what we should use, and if not why, and what we should use instead18:34
mriedembreton: nothing18:34
mriedemdigesting18:35
notmynamettx: right. we're looking at barbican intigration for our crypto work18:35
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notmynamettx: so we need *something*18:35
ttxnotmyname: definitely, and you are not the only ones18:35
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notmynamethe discussion is at 2 in ... where?18:35
notmynamejrichli: ^18:35
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jrichliI think that is georgia 9 level 1.  mathiasb and I will be there18:38
notmynamejrichli: mathiasb: thanks :-)18:39
notmynameSpamapS: ttx: swift team reps ^18:39
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mugsieis the  barbican + base services in Georgia 4 ?19:00
mugsie(in the arch wg room)19:00
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jrichlimugsie: oh, is that right? i thought they had said release mgmt room (georgia 9)19:03
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ttxmugsie / jrichli -- yes, Arch WG room19:04
ttxgeorgia 419:04
ttxunfortunately can't be in both19:04
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fungii'm looking into reported etherpad issues19:04
ttxsorry for confusion19:04
mugsiefungi: when I disabled IPv6 it worked19:05
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fungimugsie: wacky. i wonder if something happened to the ipv6 routing for the venue19:06
johnsomNo, it wasn't loading on LTE either19:07
* JayF has been getting 500 errors from etherpad about 5% of the time when loading it, since yesterday. I presumed it was high load.19:08
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johnsomAnyone know where the keystone/quota discussion is today?19:08
jordanPit's loading but super super slow19:08
dasmJayF: couple people in Georgia 10 mentioned about etherpad problems too19:08
fungiservice has been up for more than a week, didn't crash19:08
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dasm(or Georgia Release Mgmt)19:08
hyakuheittx do you know where the secrets mgmt conversation is happening? Clint mentioned it19:09
ttxhyakuhei: arch WG / Georgia 419:09
hyakuheity, I'll be there shorty!19:10
bretonjohnsom: arch wg at 319:10
johnsomThank you19:11
fungiare there people successfully using etherpad.openstack.org? i was eventually able to load some pads19:14
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jordanPandreaf, where is "Title: Pike Priority" going to be held ? I mean which room19:16
fungicurrent theory (carried over from barcelona) is that when we have a large enough number of people with pads up in their browsers, then they all suspend their machines to go to lunch, and then resume them again after lunch they end up establishing new tcp sockets to the server while the old ones are left hung and inactive on the server's end eating up apache worker threads19:17
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fungicontinuing to look into options, but that explains the timing19:18
dasmfungi: yeah, could make sense19:18
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mriedemkevinbenton: we had nova/neutron at 3:30 today? we might need to move that to 4 since the hierarchical quotas stuff is at 3pm now19:33
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andreafjordanP: in the QA room19:45
andreafmtreinish: bug_156494819:45
jordanPack19:45
andreafmtreinish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cirros/+bug/156494819:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1564948 in CirrOS "Dropbear fails to start with empty key" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Hugh Saunders (hughsaunders)19:46
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johnthetubaguykevinbenton: is it almost now the neutron discussion?19:56
johnthetubaguykevinbenton: I am in the architecture room, and I think I need to lead the discussion around hierarchical quotas in here, or at least I feel like I should be involved19:56
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SpamapSIf anybody from Congress is paying attention, we could use your ears in Georgia 4 during a hierarchical quota session.20:18
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dimsmriedem : No Nova folks here in macon20:25
mriedemdims: because we're doing hierarchical quotas in georgia 420:26
mriedemi pinged kevinbenton earlier20:26
mriedemcan we postpone nova/neutron to 4?20:26
dimsroom is full of neutron folks, no kevinbenton yet though20:26
dimsi can tell everyone20:27
dimsin a few mins20:27
dimskevinbenton : ping20:27
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dimsmriedem : getting them started on what they all wanted to talk about amongst themselves20:31
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mriedemavolkov`: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403588/ ?20:32
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mriedemfor keystone?20:32
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mriedemor https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36376520:32
mriedemyeah nvm20:32
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avolkov`mriedem: yes, second one20:34
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smcginnisfungi: Have we looked at something like lingerd for etherpad?20:55
dimsmriedem : on your way? :)20:55
smcginnisfungi: Don't really know much about it, but description sounds like it may benefit out summit issues.20:56
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mriedemdims: i think we're ending soon20:56
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oomichidhellmann: hello, where are you? I'd like to get your help for reno thing21:00
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dmelladooomichi: what would you like to do? maybe I can lend you a hand as I've been 'fighting' with reno as of lately xD21:09
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* aspiers has been hacking on reno today too21:09
aspiersI really need an IRC bouncer :-( back shortly...21:10
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* dmellado 's getting hit by the jet lag again...21:22
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oomichidmellado: thanks :) but I need to take care of that due to tagging permission21:35
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dmelladooomichi: heh, np! if you want us to have a quick look just ping me after the session21:44
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hemnawhere is the happy hour?21:51
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oomichidhellmann: can we remove the existing tag temporary and add it again? like21:55
oomichidhellmann:   $ git tag -d TAG_NAME21:55
diablo_rojohemna, third floor21:55
oomichidhellmann:   $ git push origin :refs/tags/TAG_NAME21:55
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oomichidhellmann:     (fixing something)21:56
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oomichidhellmann:   $ git tag TAG_NAME21:56
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oomichidhellmann:   $ git push --tags origin21:56
oomichidhellmann: ^^^ ?21:56
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fungiHEADS UP: i'm restarting etherpad now to hopefully free up as many idle sessions as possible22:25
fungi(if you're not drinking already...)22:26
fungishould hopefully be back up already... testing now22:28
fungilooks like it's working fine for me. also beautifully low connection count per cacti.o.o now22:33
fungiback into the fray!22:33
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dhellmannoomichi : I think we caught up in person, but just in case: no, we don't rewrite history by moving tags. you could add another tag, though.22:53
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fungialso it's worth noting that's a general limitation of git itself. deletion or replacement of tags doesn't propagate the way branch deletion/updates do23:32
fungiwhile there are git commands to delete tags in your local repo and you can even push that deletion to a remote repo, git's design assumes for the most part that you won't do that because tags are a representation of state expected to persist indefinitely23:34
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fungiso git pull or remote update won't notice deleted or replaced tags from a remote repository23:35
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