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| *** diablo_rojo changes topic to "Discussion for the PTG and on-site announcements | Etherpads: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Queens/Etherpads | Reservable Rooms Sign-Up: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Pike-PTG-Discussion-Rooms | Now/Next Room Topics: http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html" | 00:13 | |
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| hogepodge | diablo_rojo_phon: hello | 02:19 |
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| lbragstad | i know this has probably been advertised in a thread somewhere - but is there a link for the PTG rooms? | 14:30 |
| lbragstad | aha - nevermind | 14:32 |
| lbragstad | i think i found it | 14:32 |
| cdent | lbragstad: might be something linked from here: http://ptg.openstack.org/ | 14:35 |
| lbragstad | cdent: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Queens-PTG-Discussion-Rooms looks about right! | 14:36 |
| lbragstad | cdent: fyi - i like this idea https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496404/2 | 14:36 |
| lbragstad | cdent: are you planning on talking about it at the PTG? | 14:36 |
| cdent | I hadn’t really thought about it. Was still waiting to see what people had to say about it. I definitely plan to try to bring it up at the combined board/uc/tc meeting that is happening the day before the ptg starts | 14:38 |
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| lbragstad | cdent: good to know | 14:42 |
| cdent | lbragstad: if you have ideas, or even just want to register your “yeah” on the review that would be great | 14:42 |
| cdent | I think there are plenty of people who have lack-of-readability fatigue | 14:43 |
| lbragstad | cdent: will do - so far i just glanced at it | 14:43 |
| lbragstad | cdent: i hear that | 14:43 |
| cdent | ✔ | 14:43 |
| lbragstad | cdent: but i also see how that can be a hard problem to address (like the metrics you talked about) | 14:43 |
| cdent | yup | 14:44 |
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| cdent | plenty of people know stuff could be better but there’s little agreement on how to change things, and few people who have license to think about it | 14:44 |
| lbragstad | right | 14:45 |
| cdent | and, sadly, the overlap between the people who might make some changes and reviewers may not be huge | 14:45 |
| lbragstad | i was just talking to another contributor this week about keystone unit tests - and how we have a bad habit of inheriting test classes for re-useability | 14:46 |
| lbragstad | which causes a *bunch* of setUp classes to be invoked when they aren't needed for nearly all our test runs | 14:46 |
| * cdent nods | 14:47 | |
| lbragstad | we've had efforts to clean them up in the past, but it's often spearheaded by one developer who knows the most about it and that's about it | 14:47 |
| lbragstad | (e.g. we're not fixing the actual problem of reintroducing the pattern) | 14:47 |
| lbragstad | s/pattern/bad pattern/ | 14:47 |
| cdent | yup | 14:48 |
| lbragstad | so i totally found your review relevant and applicable when i stumbled across it | 14:48 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: i'm planning on hosting a couple sessions to help projects with the policy-in-code and policy-in-docs stuff at the PTG on Monday and Tuesday | 14:51 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: i'm reserving rooms here https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Queens-PTG-Discussion-Rooms | 14:51 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: is it perferred that I switch back and forth between rooms or attempt to stay in the same one? | 14:51 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Separate from the room we have for you? | 14:52 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | For the policy in code room? | 14:52 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: our time blocks are 9:00 AM - noon on Monday and 14:30 - 17:00 on Tuesday | 14:52 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: ah, i thought we had a room but I couldn't find it! | 14:52 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: i see it listed here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmOdT6uZ5XqViActr5sBOaz_mEgjKSCY7NEWcAEcT-A/edit#gid=397241312 | 14:53 |
| lbragstad | but not room assignment yet | 14:54 |
| lbragstad | s/not/no/ | 14:54 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yeah there is a room for you :) if you want you can probably do both topics in there. | 14:57 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | lbragstad: ^^ | 14:57 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: cool - should i update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Queens/Etherpads with the etherpad we have for the policy work, too? | 14:57 |
| lbragstad | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/policy-queens-ptg | 14:57 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | lbragstad: yes please :) | 14:58 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: done | 14:58 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Woot thanks! | 14:59 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: is there a list of rooms for all the efforts listed on the PTG/Queens/Etherpads wiki on Monday->Tuesday? | 14:59 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | In that Google doc that shows the room tags for the ptgbot you can kind of see them? | 15:00 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: this one? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmOdT6uZ5XqViActr5sBOaz_mEgjKSCY7NEWcAEcT-A/edit#gid=397241312 | 15:01 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | lbragstad that's the one :) | 15:01 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: cool - i see the tags, but do those correspond to rooms? | 15:02 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yep. You'll use that hashtag when you want to tell the ptgbot what's up. | 15:04 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: but do we know what physical room that session will be in? i was going to advertise it here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/policy-queens-ptg | 15:04 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | lbragstad: erindisney was finalizing the names and layout yesterday. Should be posted soon. | 15:05 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: aha - perfect | 15:06 |
| lbragstad | diablo_rojo_phon: thanks for the help! | 15:06 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | lbragstad: no problem :) | 15:06 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | What I'm here for. | 15:06 |
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| pkovar | hi, i'm the docs ptl for queens, could someone here please add me to the access list for the ptg bot? | 15:14 |
| pkovar | diablo_rojo_phon: ^ | 15:14 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | pkovar: I can add you later or if clarkb or fungi are around they can help :) | 15:16 |
| pkovar | already asked clarkb :) | 15:17 |
| clarkb | ya I'm currently unbreaking a cloud and can get to this when done if not beaten to it | 15:19 |
| pkovar | thank you guys, i mean, it's not urgent :) | 15:20 |
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| diablo_rojo | pkovar, hello :) | 15:25 |
| diablo_rojo | pkovar, I need you to register your nic before I can give you permissions. | 15:32 |
| pkovar | diablo_rojo: ah, ok, will do it now! | 15:33 |
| diablo_rojo | pkovar, sounds good :) | 15:33 |
| diablo_rojo | pkovar, it let me set them this time so you should be good to go :) | 15:39 |
| pkovar | diablo_rojo: thanks again! | 15:40 |
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| elmiko | hi, how do i get registered to utilize the ptgbot? | 16:16 |
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| clarkb | elmiko: you basically request it here. Make sure you nick is registered first. One of us will get to it when we can (I'm currently fighting a broken cloud) | 16:34 |
| elmiko | clarkb: thanks! my nick just needs to be registered with freenode or ? | 16:35 |
| clarkb | ya with freenode | 16:35 |
| clarkb | so that we can voice you | 16:35 |
| elmiko | ok, think i'm all set there | 16:35 |
| elmiko | is there an official command for requesting access? | 16:36 |
| clarkb | no, just lket us know for what project you need it | 16:36 |
| elmiko | hey all, i'd like to be registered with the ptg bot for the api-sig, thanks! | 16:36 |
| elmiko | clarkb++ | 16:36 |
| cdent | the room elmiko wants is “api” | 16:37 |
| cdent | #api next sigging up the wg | 16:37 |
| openstackptg | cdent: ack | 16:37 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | cdent: can do :) I'm watching movers haul my crap to the new place. Will add elmiko when I get back to a computer. | 16:38 |
| elmiko | diablo_rojo_phon: thanks! | 16:38 |
| elmiko | and good luck with the move =) | 16:38 |
| cdent | welcome home and all that | 16:38 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | cdent: thanks :) | 16:42 |
| cdent | diablo_rojo_phon: do I remember that you are in seattle? I used to live there, where are you moving to? | 16:45 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | cdent: yep Seattle area :) Bellevue specifically right in downtown. Few blocks from the bus depot. | 18:45 |
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| clarkb | #infra party time | 20:09 |
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| openstackptg | Format is '@ROOM [now|next] SESSION' | 20:09 |
| clarkb | #infra next party time | 20:09 |
| openstackptg | clarkb: ack | 20:09 |
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