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| zhipeng | hi tobberydberg | 06:23 |
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| tobberydberg | Morning zhipeng | 06:25 |
| zhipeng | morning :) | 06:26 |
| zhipeng | hope not interrupting your coffee :) | 06:26 |
| tobberydberg | hehe, no problem ... have a pretty fresh one in my hand right now =) | 06:26 |
| zhipeng | sounds good :) | 06:27 |
| tobberydberg | So, should we start with the list or just touch base around your call yestrday? | 06:29 |
| zhipeng | i'm okey either way | 06:30 |
| tobberydberg | Lets just have a quick chat around the blockchain | 06:31 |
| zhipeng | okey | 06:31 |
| zhipeng | so as you might already noticed, the etc dev team has finished the poc of the sidechain implementation | 06:32 |
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| zhipeng | so the core team and I had a zoom call yesterday | 06:32 |
| zhipeng | to again confirm our use case, and set the MVP goal for this year | 06:32 |
| zhipeng | I'm glad that the ETC dev team is very nice, techy and not hype-proned at all | 06:33 |
| tobberydberg | Sounds promising | 06:33 |
| zhipeng | so the MVP goal we discussed was that, for Vancouver Summit, Darcy could join your talk, and give a preliminary demo of the sidechain implementation | 06:34 |
| zhipeng | it will not be our ledger yet, just functionality | 06:34 |
| zhipeng | and by Nov, i.e Berlin Summit, we want to have a sizable testnet setup | 06:34 |
| zhipeng | and possible keynote demo | 06:34 |
| tobberydberg | That is awesome | 06:34 |
| tobberydberg | I will swing this by aprice as well | 06:35 |
| zhipeng | and the team also floated some interesting idea as well, so let's see how we could proceed this year :) | 06:35 |
| tobberydberg | ok, interesting | 06:35 |
| zhipeng | ya so i think you could carve out like the end part of the talk to Darcy | 06:35 |
| zhipeng | if you would like to :) | 06:35 |
| zhipeng | how long will the talk last ? | 06:36 |
| tobberydberg | Sounds perfect to me! My plan is to cover basic understanding of PP, what have been done, what feedback we have gotten ... and then finish of with what we see for the future | 06:37 |
| tobberydberg | So it is a perfect match | 06:37 |
| zhipeng | sounds great :) | 06:37 |
| tobberydberg | Well, it's a 40 minute slot .. 30 min of talking and 10 min question. My plan is to keep it a little short so the video can be useful for "marketing purposes" for us | 06:38 |
| zhipeng | 40 mins is an ideal length for three people sharing | 06:39 |
| tobberydberg | Do you think he needs like 10 minutes or so? | 06:39 |
| zhipeng | around 10 would be great | 06:40 |
| tobberydberg | I will start working out the skeleton of the presentation today ... so adding him as the last part there ... then finish of with promoting our Forum session for PP | 06:41 |
| tobberydberg | Would be super if he could join that session | 06:41 |
| zhipeng | gr8t ! | 06:41 |
| zhipeng | he will be there | 06:41 |
| zhipeng | :) | 06:41 |
| zhipeng | So since we touched upon PP, should we discuss a little bit about passport v2 this year ? | 06:42 |
| tobberydberg | perfect! I will have a chat with him as well soonish to sync a little bit | 06:42 |
| tobberydberg | sure | 06:42 |
| zhipeng | so I looked into my minutes in Dublin again | 06:42 |
| zhipeng | I see the notes on adding QR code support | 06:42 |
| tobberydberg | mmm | 06:43 |
| zhipeng | maybe more detailed category on "ARM supported" or "IPv6 enabled" | 06:43 |
| zhipeng | I think that were two items definitely worth mentioning for v2 plan | 06:43 |
| zhipeng | my colleague suggested to me the other day | 06:44 |
| zhipeng | we could also consider adding serverless to the category | 06:44 |
| tobberydberg | Not bad ... not the expert of qr codes in any sense though | 06:44 |
| zhipeng | QR code could be handled by the foundation mkt team | 06:45 |
| tobberydberg | But if to be implemented, we should write a spec about it for sure | 06:45 |
| zhipeng | QR code does not need a spec right ? | 06:47 |
| tobberydberg | To not make it to much for upcoming cycle, you think that QR code support and Blockchain demo is "enough" ? | 06:47 |
| tobberydberg | well, don't need to no, but wouldn't it be nice to have a spec how we se PP QR code implementation? | 06:48 |
| zhipeng | I think the QR code will basically a scannable passport website url | 06:50 |
| zhipeng | so should be easy | 06:50 |
| zhipeng | QR code + category + blockchain, sounds a good v2 feature plan :) | 06:51 |
| tobberydberg | Sounds good. But please loop me in a little more how you think around the category stuff? =) | 06:52 |
| zhipeng | I think the category basically means that we could help marketing certain specific features of a member cloud | 06:58 |
| zhipeng | like ARM, IPv6, microservice, serverless, k8s/cloudfoundry | 06:59 |
| tobberydberg | ahhhh | 06:59 |
| tobberydberg | sorry sorry sorry | 06:59 |
| tobberydberg | yes, totally agree =) | 06:59 |
| zhipeng | so if we could highlight that on PP website, it would be helpful :) | 07:00 |
| tobberydberg | Will get a new coffee so Í really wake up | 07:00 |
| zhipeng | haha | 07:02 |
| tobberydberg | New coffee in hand, so now I might wake up =) | 07:04 |
| tobberydberg | I think this sounds good and in line with what we discussed in Dublin | 07:04 |
| tobberydberg | The only thing "missing" there is the joint thing with SDK certification etc | 07:05 |
| tobberydberg | But I would guess that could be something more visionary right now and won't be possible to sort out until Berlin | 07:06 |
| tobberydberg | Not 100% related to PP - separate "project" | 07:06 |
| zhipeng | yes definitely | 07:07 |
| tobberydberg | Still think we should continue those discussions and keep it warm | 07:07 |
| zhipeng | so this year's WG task: feature list + PPv2 + SDK cert | 07:07 |
| zhipeng | chir shoge has provided some initial thoughts on the testing setup | 07:07 |
| tobberydberg | Also think we should keep missing features list as an ongoing thing to feed more feedback into the community | 07:08 |
| zhipeng | so I think Berlin could be a good time for release of the certificate | 07:08 |
| zhipeng | let's switch to feature list :) | 07:08 |
| tobberydberg | yes, just one quick first | 07:08 |
| zhipeng | I think besides what we have at the moment, which concentrates on OpenStack missing/desired features | 07:09 |
| tobberydberg | do you think we will have time for the SDK stuff until Berlin as well? | 07:09 |
| zhipeng | we should consider expand the feature list to include PaaS and other components | 07:09 |
| zhipeng | tobberydberg on SDK, yes of course | 07:09 |
| tobberydberg | Ok, lets keep that as a goal as well then | 07:09 |
| zhipeng | back to feature list | 07:10 |
| tobberydberg | Hope to continue the discussions with Chris and Dims in Vancouver then. Need a spec for sue | 07:10 |
| tobberydberg | yes, back to that =) | 07:10 |
| tobberydberg | Like that idea | 07:11 |
| zhipeng | my rationale is that public cloud does not limit to OpenStack based functionalities, although 90% of the current services mostly are based upon OpenStack infrastructure | 07:11 |
| zhipeng | so we should encourage public clouds adding more interesting open source features | 07:11 |
| zhipeng | and our WG could be the place that everyone comes in and raise the feature request | 07:12 |
| tobberydberg | Goes in line with where OpenStack is heading | 07:12 |
| zhipeng | yes, it is good both on technical sense as well as for mkt purpose | 07:12 |
| tobberydberg | "open infra" | 07:12 |
| zhipeng | :) | 07:12 |
| tobberydberg | yes, for sure | 07:13 |
| tobberydberg | One thing first though, would be nice to get good structure and workflow around the list first =) | 07:13 |
| zhipeng | yes defnitely | 07:13 |
| zhipeng | overall, that should be plenty of exicting information for our Vancouver talk :) | 07:14 |
| tobberydberg | Well, talk is only around PP =) | 07:16 |
| tobberydberg | But yes, we have some interesting ideas for the future | 07:17 |
| zhipeng | ah right | 07:17 |
| tobberydberg | But hopefully we will have even more for a Berlin talk =) | 07:17 |
| zhipeng | that's for sure :) | 07:17 |
| tobberydberg | BTW ... planning to attend PTG in Denver? | 07:17 |
| zhipeng | yes for now lol | 07:19 |
| zhipeng | if funding not fluctuate again before PTG | 07:20 |
| tobberydberg | hahaha | 07:20 |
| tobberydberg | Lets hope not then =) | 07:20 |
| zhipeng | :P | 07:20 |
| tobberydberg | I've bought my PTG event ticket | 07:20 |
| zhipeng | maybe I should do the same soon | 07:20 |
| tobberydberg | Cheaper until 11th or 17th of May :-) | 07:21 |
| tobberydberg | Then they double the price | 07:21 |
| tobberydberg | But ok, that is pretty of topic =) | 07:22 |
| zhipeng | :) yep | 07:24 |
| tobberydberg | pasuder and his team transfered a few items in Dublin (cred to that) ... I've been slacking there... should we just start with moving stuff that we are assigned to our selves? | 07:24 |
| zhipeng | wrong channel ? | 07:25 |
| tobberydberg | huh? | 07:25 |
| zhipeng | pasuder and his team ? | 07:25 |
| tobberydberg | No, in Dublin they took a few items from the missing features list and created bugs in launchpad | 07:26 |
| zhipeng | ah ok | 07:26 |
| tobberydberg | so, my suggestion ... we do the same right now | 07:26 |
| zhipeng | okey no probelm | 07:28 |
| tobberydberg | Which just failed for me... | 07:30 |
| tobberydberg | hmm.... timeout error | 07:30 |
| tobberydberg | Let me know if you succeed with your bug-creation | 07:32 |
| zhipeng | i will try when i get home, company VDI not very convenient on OpenStack stuff :P | 07:33 |
| zhipeng | on that note, shall we move off to storyboard instead of launchpad ? | 07:35 |
| zhipeng | for bug/issues and stuff | 07:35 |
| tobberydberg | Not sure. We started to move to launchpad and we dont have a space at storyboard so think that we can stick to that for a while | 07:37 |
| zhipeng | we could always talk to kendall to start the migration | 07:38 |
| zhipeng | i just did with the cyborg project | 07:38 |
| tobberydberg | I'm not against it....use board and worklist for the WG planning stuff? | 07:40 |
| zhipeng | ya it is the same with launchpad | 07:41 |
| tobberydberg | Have a project there we post stories? | 07:42 |
| zhipeng | no just regular bug reporting | 07:42 |
| zhipeng | and also other agile development stuff | 07:43 |
| tobberydberg | Maybe worth it. Let's bring it up for discussion at an upcoming meeting | 07:45 |
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| tobberydberg | Does priority stuff work well there? | 07:47 |
| tobberydberg | Having issues with my Ubuntu one login so can't login... | 07:47 |
| zhipeng | yep | 07:49 |
| zhipeng | storyboard only requries openstack id I think | 07:49 |
| tobberydberg | Yes ... which I have issues with all the time =) | 07:49 |
| tobberydberg | It's really strange ... every time I get signed out ... I need to reset my password to get in again | 07:50 |
| zhipeng | haha | 07:52 |
| tobberydberg | What do you think should be the focus on the Forum session in Vancouver? | 07:52 |
| zhipeng | you must have been using a centos machine | 07:52 |
| zhipeng | what the topic title for the Forum ? | 07:52 |
| tobberydberg | I would like to have all "bugs" (items) in launchpad for example. So that we have that up to date | 07:53 |
| tobberydberg | Well, mean, should we focus on getting more stuff in there or discussion things we have on the list? | 07:53 |
| tobberydberg | Thinking about Matts feedback, lets not discuss the same things over and over again ... we should have a set of items prepared that need clarification / discussion, not "lets discuss the whole list agian" | 07:54 |
| zhipeng | would be great to discuss the progress of what we have now | 07:54 |
| zhipeng | definitely | 07:55 |
| tobberydberg | Yes, so, informing everyone about the "new list in launchpad" and get people to post comment there and set status? | 07:56 |
| zhipeng | that'd be great | 07:56 |
| tobberydberg | But also pick out a few important once that we think needs more discussions /clarification | 07:57 |
| zhipeng | yes for sure | 07:58 |
| tobberydberg | Could that be a thing for the agenda for tomorrows meeting? | 08:01 |
| zhipeng | definitely | 08:02 |
| zhipeng | if we get enough attendance | 08:02 |
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| tobberydberg | Cool | 08:13 |
| tobberydberg | Would be good ... if not, you and me might have an extra chat next week around it | 08:14 |
| zhipeng | yep :) | 08:17 |
| zhipeng | regarding the third co-chair | 08:17 |
| zhipeng | we should set a time table for that | 08:17 |
| tobberydberg | mmm | 08:22 |
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