Thursday, 2019-04-11

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tobberydbergo/14:01
tobberydbergAnyone around for the meeting?14:03
ricolino/14:06
tobberydbergHello ricolin ! How are you doing? :-)14:07
ricolindoing great! got a productive day:)14:07
tobberydbergThats a good feeling to have from sometimes ;-)14:08
tobberydbergLets wait a few more minutes and see if anyone else drops in14:10
ricolinyep14:10
tobberydberg#startmeeting publiccloud_wg14:13
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 11 14:13:56 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:13
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:13
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)"14:14
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg'14:14
tobberydbergLets start14:14
ricolinOkay:)14:14
tobberydbergAgenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg14:14
tobberydberg#topic 1. Expose WGs and SIGs14:14
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tobberydbergI guess we wont have much of a discussion since it is just you and me here ricolin :-)14:15
ricolintobberydberg, yep, and just reviewed your etherpad, I think it's great14:15
tobberydbergFor the record, you have sent out a request for information and feedback to the mailing list14:16
tobberydberg#link  http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/004246.html14:16
tobberydbergI drafted a response to that located at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg-help-most-needed-feedback14:16
ricolintobberydberg, yeah, so you can reply that ML once it's ready14:16
ricolinwe got generally nice percentage of reply from SIGs/WGs14:17
tobberydbergGood14:17
tobberydbergDid someone reply to the list it self, or just directly to you?14:18
ricolinI will collect them and share on etherpad14:18
tobberydbergok, cool14:18
tobberydbergAs a promotion for the session in Denver, please attend14:18
tobberydberg#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23612/help-most-needed-for-sigs-and-wgs14:18
ricolinI got one or two directly message rest from ML14:18
tobberydbergyep, I will leave it open for comments until tomorrow, then I send it to the mailinglist14:20
ricolinnice14:20
tobberydbergAnything else from you on that topic?14:21
ricolinnope14:21
tobberydbergok14:22
tobberydberg#topic 2. Migrating to SIG14:22
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tobberydbergWell, proposed from the community that we consider converting to a SIG14:22
tobberydbergHave been discussed earlier as well, main driver is to follow community and be under the governance of both UC and TC14:23
tobberydbergricolin - anything to add to that?14:23
ricolintobberydberg, so I think the very first step is just to rename from WG to SIG14:24
ricolinwe can done that before summit, and maybe discuss the next step in Summit14:24
ricolinor PTG14:24
ricolintobberydberg, That means to remove from https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml and add-in in https://github.com/openstack/governance-sigs/blob/master/sigs.yaml14:26
ricolinduring the review process TCs and UCs will give their opinions14:26
tobberydbergThanks14:26
ricolinI mean and the entire community too:)14:26
tobberydbergYes, lets see if we can get some internal comments to that before making the choice, but otherwise definitely a discussion point for Denver Summit/PTG14:27
ricolintobberydberg, and a potential announce point about this SIG too:)14:28
tobberydbergyes :-)14:28
tobberydberg#topic 3. Planning Summit and PTG14:29
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tobberydbergWe have a couple of related Forum topics submitted to the summit, will add links to those as well14:30
tobberydbergFor the PTG, we have a half day booked at Thursday (first day of PTG) .... so any suggestions for topics are appreciated14:31
tobberydbergWould be good if we could all help out revisiting the bugs section in our launchpad, mark as solved, mark as important, add new and rank the most important once14:32
tobberydbergI might send out an email around that as well14:32
tobberydberg#topic 4. Other topics14:33
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ricolinSo I got one for asking some test in real environment for Heat multi-cloud support14:34
tobberydbergToday we are not using the time slot we have on even weeks very much, maybe we should remove that from the schedule. But we can postpone that to denver14:34
ricolinsure14:34
tobberydbergyes, would would be needed for that? Access to cloud?14:35
ricolinI mean I kind of hope people who have CA cert environment can help with test the functionality14:35
ricolinWe currently have new multi openstack cloud support in Stein release14:36
ricolinand it can use Cacert as SSL security14:36
tobberydbergThat is awesome to hear!14:37
tobberydbergNot possible to use with 2 different keystones and regular password auth?14:37
ricolinAnd I hope that function is near ready for production14:37
ricolinthose two cloud can have completely separate environment, and only been able to use the API from another cloud14:38
tobberydbergOk ok14:39
ricolinI have a document here to explain everything14:39
ricolinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/649220/14:39
tobberydbergcool14:40
ricolinSo if anyone can help with give more test on that will be very helpful14:40
tobberydbergI will see what I can find possible to to from my end. But also a good reach out to do in Denver where I hope we will be more than just you and me =)14:41
ricolindefinitely14:42
tobberydbergAnything else from your end ricolin ?14:43
tobberydbergI have no other items14:43
ricolinYes, just wondering if there's any plan for discuss about whether to move to storyboard for public cloud wg:)14:44
tobberydbergBeen some time since that was discussed, back at that time, people felt that storyboard was messy to use and felt that the bugs list in launchpad was a better place for what we are using it for at this point14:46
ricolintobberydberg, storyboard was messy back at some time14:48
ricolinI sense it's getting better now, just wondering if it can cover the use cases for you guys14:49
ricolinor does it need more improvement14:49
tobberydbergThat is what we have to figure out as well14:49
tobberydbergthinking about the list of "missing features" that we have as "bugs" today, that is basically what we have in there today14:50
ricolinthat will be a nice start14:50
tobberydbergwould that fit in as a "Board/Worklist"?14:51
ricolinI think it's a workinglist14:52
tobberydberg+114:52
tobberydbergWill look at that14:52
ricolinin heat we tag story with some specific tag maybe like "missing-feature"14:52
ricolinand you can have a working list to list all story with that tag14:53
ricolinor list story with that tag and still not closed, so you will have a clear target list there14:53
ricolinBoard can do the same, just IMO worklist is faster14:54
tobberydbergok, good to know14:54
ricolinyou can actually create your own private working list or board so feel free to play around storyboard and see if anything need to be improve14:55
tobberydbergWill definitely try that out, thanks14:56
ricolinthat's all from me14:58
tobberydbergThanks a lot for joining today ricolin ! Always nice to have you here! :-)14:58
tobberydbergThen we close todays meeting! See you soon in Denver! :-)14:59
ricolintobberydberg, see you there!!:)14:59
tobberydberg#endmeeting15:00
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