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adam_g | hey all. wondering why we can't seem to get E-R to comment on matched queries in the ironic gate? bug #1326754 shows up #3 @ http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/ but the bot is silent on reviews that fail on it | 00:06 |
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mgagne | adam_g: could be logstash is falling behind in indexing all the logs, that's the reason I heard on infra a couple of days ago: "<clarkb> sdague: we are very behind on indexing last I checked" | 00:31 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Make run_stress.py script an entry point https://review.openstack.org/92519 | 00:31 |
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cyeoh | mtreinish: hi - are you around? | 00:35 |
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mgagne | adam_g: or https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1328318 =) | 00:37 |
adam_g | mgagne, ah yeah. :) | 00:37 |
mgagne | adam_g: since you are there, who should I bug regarding ubuntu packaging? | 00:39 |
adam_g | mgagne, #ubuntu-server. i may be able to answer questions, but i haven't been active there in a while | 00:39 |
mgagne | adam_g: alright, I'll bug them then | 00:40 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/96829 | 00:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Broaden 1326312 to match py26/py27 failures https://review.openstack.org/98929 | 01:01 |
mtreinish | cyeoh: yeah what's up? | 01:04 |
cyeoh | mtreinish: oh just wanted to chat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97834/3 | 01:09 |
mtreinish | sure | 01:10 |
cyeoh | so I'm happy with it from the POV re: thats what is being enforced at the moment | 01:10 |
cyeoh | but I was wondering what you thought about having an experimental tag for tests which test the API which we deliberately believe are not yet stable across releases | 01:10 |
cyeoh | and that the experimental tag would mean that its only run against the latest project release? | 01:11 |
mtreinish | so that's where I think we'll be going for the experimental api tests we have in tree now | 01:11 |
mtreinish | but for future apis I think that marun's neutron thing is really the way it should be done | 01:12 |
mtreinish | and then it'll be a write once graduation into a tempest test when the api is stabalized | 01:12 |
cyeoh | so I think I missed marun's neutron thing? | 01:12 |
mtreinish | oh, I left that as a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98230/ | 01:13 |
cyeoh | is he doing tempest like testing within the neutron project? | 01:13 |
openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Broaden 1286635 https://review.openstack.org/98931 | 01:13 |
marun | mtreinish: I've been quiet post-summit but I'll be talking to markmcclain this week about ensuring the neutron core refactor provides for a mechanical schema. | 01:13 |
mtreinish | yeah pretty much | 01:13 |
cyeoh | hrm, so I suspect that's a bad idea in general | 01:13 |
marun | hah | 01:14 |
cyeoh | marun: no offence to you at all, in fact its a complement :-) | 01:14 |
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mtreinish | cyeoh: it reuses the tempest clients the etherpad is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-qa-functional-api | 01:14 |
marun | cyeoh: well, the goal is to _develop_ tests in tree | 01:14 |
cyeoh | so we've seen in the past for example API backwards incompatible changes made and unittests then changed to accomodate them (in Nova) | 01:14 |
marun | cyeoh: maintaining them once a given api stabilizes will still be tempest's responsibility | 01:14 |
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marun | cyeoh: so that backwards compatibility is still protected | 01:15 |
cyeoh | because well people just don't think about backwards compatibility | 01:15 |
marun | cyeoh: agree completely. | 01:15 |
cyeoh | having the tests maintained separately in tempest acts a safeguard | 01:15 |
marun | as per the etherpad, the suggested approach ensures that this characteristic is maintained | 01:16 |
cyeoh | and makes people think again about what they are really doing. and stops these changes slipping through | 01:16 |
cyeoh | oh ok I must have missed it :-) | 01:16 |
marun | lines 25 and 29 | 01:16 |
marun | cyeoh: the idea is that so long as an api is unstable, the test should be in-tree since it's easier to iterate and tests can be vetted pre-merge | 01:17 |
marun | cyeoh: once an api has stabilized, backwards compatibility is required and the tests are put under tempest's control | 01:17 |
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marun | cyeoh: does that make sense? | 01:17 |
cyeoh | marun: so its not clear to me from that if its possible for a backwards breaking change to get merged without a corresponding tempest approval for an 'experimental' API | 01:18 |
cyeoh | I really want that not to be possible (or at least a project to be able to set that for an experimental api) | 01:19 |
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marun | cyeoh: I think the thought process is more "we have a public-facing api. it's not allowed to be 'official' until tempest has tests for it" | 01:20 |
mtreinish | cyeoh: the thing I've seen with experimental apis is that they want to do backwards breaking changes. (which is why they're marked as experimental) I've already seen 2 this cycle. | 01:20 |
cyeoh | mtreinish: so we're perhaps talking about 2 different situations | 01:20 |
mtreinish | I think we are | 01:21 |
mtreinish | the tests belong in tempest if they're willing to conform the stability guidelines | 01:21 |
cyeoh | I would really like to see in the future (once we have microversions) that *ALL* new Nova apis are experimental for one cycle | 01:21 |
marun | cyeoh: backwards compatible and experimental do not mix | 01:21 |
mtreinish | cyeoh: all new microversions, or new apis? | 01:21 |
cyeoh | its what we would previously have released as "stable" but we know now we our "oops" percentage is low, but too high | 01:22 |
cyeoh | new APIs, not necessarily each microversion, tasks api for example is a good example | 01:22 |
cyeoh | so we're telling users that: "this is what we think our stable api is going to be, and we're not going to arbitarily change it" | 01:23 |
marun | so are those api's truly experimental? | 01:23 |
cyeoh | eg. we've gone through a *lot* of spec design planning etc, a lot of analysis etc | 01:23 |
cyeoh | and we really think we've got it right. | 01:23 |
marun | it sounds like splitting hairs on what 'experimental' means | 01:23 |
cyeoh | but history shows us that there's a non zero percentage change we got something wrong. So we might tweak it a bit | 01:23 |
marun | the more important part, I think, is backwards compatibility | 01:24 |
cyeoh | but we'll lock it down in one cycle | 01:24 |
marun | if bc is required, then tests have to be in tempest | 01:24 |
marun | otherwise, they can evolve in-tree | 01:24 |
marun | until bc becomes necessary | 01:24 |
mtreinish | cyeoh: yeah I'm just looking at it from the backwards compatibility standpoint. We can make breaking api changes but they have to be backported if they cross a release boundry | 01:24 |
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mtreinish | if we have to start playing games with tagging based on time then I really am not sure we should be testing it in tempest | 01:25 |
cyeoh | marun: so evolving in-tree I see as losing a safety net (eg a patch going going through really quickly that changes both test and implementation) | 01:25 |
mtreinish | the tag we were talking about before I was envisioning more for tests that existed before we started being more explicit about what should be in tree | 01:25 |
cyeoh | mtreinish: well but if we can just have a tag that says - only test against the latest version - that'd be fine with me. Gets the safety net and the tag can be removed when its no longer experimental | 01:26 |
marun | cyeoh: you don't need iteration to be expensive until backwards compatibility is required. | 01:26 |
cyeoh | and we would not keep experimental APIs in Nova for more than once cycle anyway | 01:26 |
marun | cyeoh: but you're free to spend your time how you wish, of course. | 01:26 |
cyeoh | marun: but in these cases we're not expecting to be iterating | 01:26 |
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marun | cyeoh: I tend to have too little, though, as opposed to too much. | 01:27 |
mtreinish | then the normal feature flag would cover that use case if it's stable after the first cycle it's introduced | 01:27 |
marun | cyeoh: well, then do it in tempest | 01:27 |
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mtreinish | you would just need to backport any fixes that made a backwards incompatible change | 01:27 |
cyeoh | with nova-specs and CD we don't expect to be iterating - this for "oops" moments | 01:27 |
marun | cyeoh: but being able to iterate on code and tests in-tree is valuable for neutron at least. | 01:27 |
cyeoh | marun: oh I'm not saying that projects shouldn't be able to do what you want | 01:27 |
marun | have to run | 01:27 |
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cyeoh | I'm just saying thats not what I want for nova :-) | 01:28 |
mtreinish | cyeoh: so I actually don't think what you want for nova is incompatible with what I'm adding to the readme | 01:29 |
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mtreinish | it's just that you'll have to backport a fix if we do end up slipping | 01:29 |
mtreinish | I really just added that as a response to ironic who has tests but have planned "features" that are making backwards incompatible api changes | 01:30 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Add bug skip for test_container_synchronization() https://review.openstack.org/92606 | 01:32 |
cyeoh | mtreinish: hrm. perhaps. I guess it depends on how we define experimental & stable. If tell nova api users that say an icehouse update may change an "experimental API", rather than it only changing between icehouse and juno | 01:32 |
cyeoh | though I think i'd prefer that we could at least say that our experimental apis are stable within a release | 01:33 |
mtreinish | yeah but with branchless tempest we're saying that any future breaking api changes have to be backported anyway so it's about the same | 01:33 |
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mtreinish | yeah it's just a definition thing | 01:33 |
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mtreinish | I don't think we really have a clear definition on any of this anyway :) | 01:34 |
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cyeoh | yea and the whole "experimental for one cycle" is a new thing for Nova too anyway :-) | 01:38 |
mtreinish | cyeoh: but add something to the meeting agenda about the experimental tag, it'll probably be good to discuss with more people | 01:41 |
mtreinish | I may not be the biggest fan of the idea, because I think we should only gate on things that shouldn't be changing but I think it's worth discussing one more time | 01:42 |
cyeoh | sure ok - I'll add it. I guess I see this as handling the cases where it *shouldn't* be changing but unfortunately has to because we don't want to live with broken for another 10 years. | 01:44 |
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openstackgerrit | nayna-patel proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Adds list users tests in v3 https://review.openstack.org/93704 | 01:59 |
openstackgerrit | nayna-patel proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Adds keystone roles v2 tests in v3 https://review.openstack.org/89357 | 02:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Mh Raies proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Mising CLI test for Keystone https://review.openstack.org/98749 | 04:00 |
raies | afazekas: hi | 04:02 |
raies | afazekas: my two of patches are being failed due to cell not being enabled in devstack. Can you please assist me in this to check for cell enabling in devstack ?? | 04:03 |
raies | afazekas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98735/ , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90337/ | 04:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Expand variables in get_meta_section_files https://review.openstack.org/98951 | 04:35 |
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raies | afazekas: hi | 05:19 |
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raies | afazekas: you there ?? | 05:58 |
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afazekas | raies: hi | 06:06 |
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raies | afazekas: take the case of this https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/network/test_fwaas_extensions.py#L51 | 06:08 |
raies | afazekas: if fwaas is not enabled then these tests should skip | 06:08 |
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raies | afazekas: but when I run it with fwaas not enabled then errror is traced saying resource not found | 06:09 |
raies | afazekas: can you please check ?? | 06:09 |
afazekas | traceback ? | 06:10 |
raies | hold I am giving it in pastebit | 06:12 |
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raies | afazekas: please check it pastebin.com/egfiN1C7 | 06:13 |
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afazekas | tempest.conf [network-feature-enabled]api_extensions ?? | 06:17 |
raies | afazekas: have you seen ?? | 06:17 |
raies | afazekas: "api_extensions = all" | 06:18 |
raies | it is in tempest.conf | 06:18 |
afazekas | tempest.conf [network-feature-enabled]api_extensions needs to be something else than all, and it should not contain the 'fwaas' string | 06:19 |
raies | and q-fwaas is not enabled in localrc | 06:19 |
raies | something else I didn't get | 06:19 |
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raies | afazekas: tempest.conf is generated, how can I change it to something else. and what to change in api_extensions | 06:21 |
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raies | afazekas: am I making sense ?? | 06:24 |
afazekas | raies: you need to enumerate all extensions excluding fwaas | 06:24 |
raies | how can I list it out in tempest.conf ?? it se auto generated right | 06:26 |
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raies | afazekas: can you please show that me in an example ?? | 06:29 |
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raies | afazekas: you there ?? | 06:32 |
raies | afazekas: got that :) only one thing I need to clarify, for this purpose I think changes will be in tempest.config file to change default['all'] to 'xyz' what you say ?? | 06:36 |
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afazekas | git grep is_extension_enabled |grep network | grep -v fwaas |cut -f 2 -d\' | paste -sd "," | 06:40 |
afazekas | agent,dhcp_agent_scheduler,l3_agent_scheduler,lbaas_agent_scheduler,lbaas,quotas,allowed-address-pairs,network,network,extra_dhcp_opt,router,lbaas,metering,router,router,security-group,security-group,service-type,vpnaas,lbaas,network | 06:40 |
afazekas | man paste | 06:41 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Consolidate _check_public_network_connectivity into NetworkScenarioTest https://review.openstack.org/95831 | 06:42 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Consolidate _check_tenant_network_connectivity in NetworkScenarioTest https://review.openstack.org/95844 | 06:42 |
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raies | __afazekas: hi do you know how can I enable service required to run command "neutron cisco-network-profile-list" ?? | 07:12 |
raies | and how to enable it in devstack ?? | 07:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Mh Raies proposed a change to openstack/tempest: VPNaas IPSec policies tests https://review.openstack.org/47816 | 09:46 |
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openstackgerrit | afazekas proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for 1328500 https://review.openstack.org/99020 | 11:57 |
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mkollaro1 | are there any tests that try if nova-scheduler works properly when a node fails during VM creation? say, when a network interface goes down | 12:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Enable E129,E128 rules https://review.openstack.org/98909 | 12:59 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Bump hacking to 0.9.x series https://review.openstack.org/98868 | 12:59 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Enable E113,E111,H302,F812,E713 rules https://review.openstack.org/98899 | 12:59 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Enable H407,H305,E123,H307,E122 rules https://review.openstack.org/98918 | 12:59 |
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sdague | mtreinish: you do realize you are going to be rebasing those forever :) | 13:01 |
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mtreinish | sdague: probably, so once the requirements bump lands I'll be bugging you and dkranz to push them through fast | 13:02 |
sdague | yeh, I'm not +2ing any of those | 13:02 |
sdague | I'm pretty philosophically opposed to landing hacking changes at this point | 13:03 |
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sdague | it's giant churn at a point when we have real things to do | 13:03 |
sdague | it's also consuming 10% of all our test resources every time that patch series gets rebased | 13:05 |
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mkoderer | sdague: dkranz commented his qa_spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93037 | 13:06 |
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mkoderer | He might add this aspect to the spec since we both misunderstand it :) | 13:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Use correct base test class for test_stress unit tests https://review.openstack.org/99046 | 13:07 |
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mtreinish | sdague: ^^^ that should fix the issue you saw with you log formatter patch | 13:07 |
sdague | mtreinish: actually, I just decoupled it | 13:08 |
sdague | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98819/ | 13:08 |
mkoderer | mtreinish: ohh nice... seems I missed that one | 13:08 |
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mtreinish | sdague: yeah but the only reason you were seeing an issue was because the unit tests shouldn't have been using that base class | 13:09 |
mkoderer | mtreinish: I wait for jenkins and you got my +A | 13:10 |
openstackgerrit | afazekas proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: [Fedora] Devstack fails to install in firewalld less system https://review.openstack.org/99047 | 13:10 |
sdague | mtreinish: sure. I'd still like to land the passing patch. As that could get through the gate by this afternoon. | 13:11 |
sdague | and we can recouple to conf later if we think it's importantly | 13:11 |
sdague | important | 13:11 |
mtreinish | sdague: I think it's importantly important, because if we change the default log format for any reason the subunit logs would be incorrect again | 13:13 |
sdague | that's in log.py, which is in oslo, and basically been static since the end of time | 13:13 |
sdague | so the odds of changing that format are roughly the same odds as rewriting tempest in go | 13:14 |
afazekas | ianw, sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99047/1 | 13:14 |
mtreinish | sdague: yeh, but with the rate you're changing logging how soon until you reset the default like you did with the default_log_level stuff :) | 13:15 |
sdague | mtreinish: then we'll patch it then :) | 13:15 |
sdague | if we keep not making incremental progress because "it could be better", we make no progress | 13:15 |
mtreinish | and it's also for consitency for people who set there own log format in conf. I think having it be consistent in both places is important | 13:15 |
sdague | mtreinish: if you find me a person who does that, I'll agree | 13:16 |
sdague | because no one does that | 13:16 |
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mtreinish | we can't assume that, it's a valid config option. That's like the people who want to make breaking api changes because they claim no one uses the api | 13:17 |
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sdague | mtreinish: it doesn't make it any worse | 13:17 |
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sdague | this is the thing that drives me nuts. The patch there is a demonstrable improvement that could make it much easier to see what's going on | 13:18 |
sdague | it doesn't regress anything | 13:18 |
* afazekas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPMpMroOkwc | 13:18 | |
sdague | and yet we'll spend 4 days in round trips to make that perfect, instead of land "better", and be able to make headway on additional things | 13:18 |
mtreinish | sdague: that's not what this is. The previous rev was the correct way to do it, you just hit a bug. Instead of fixing the underlying problem you worked around it | 13:19 |
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sdague | and so we've got a patch now, which works fine, and once the other patch lands we can circle around again | 13:20 |
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vrovachev | sdague: hello :) I answered you: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64136/ | 13:25 |
sdague | vrovachev: thanks | 13:25 |
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vrovachev | sdague: thanks you :) | 13:26 |
sdague | vrovachev: so in generally, I actually want to completely remove the ceilometer polling from the gate runs | 13:26 |
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sdague | because I think it's generating a lot of extra load, and it's not going to be useful for testing | 13:27 |
afazekas | sdague: what is your opinion about doubling the build timeout (may be the build interval as well)? | 13:28 |
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vrovachev | sdague: yes, of course. We have not yet added polling testing from gate | 13:28 |
sdague | afazekas: do you have any evidence that resources would actually build in the increased timeout | 13:29 |
sdague | because it's already pretty high | 13:29 |
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afazekas | sdague: yes it is pretty high, I do not have any strong evidence | 13:30 |
sdague | afazekas: I think some evidence that it would help would be good | 13:30 |
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afazekas | sdague: but IMHO it wort to try | 13:30 |
sdague | because I don't think it would | 13:30 |
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sdague | afazekas: no, it's randomly shooting in the dark | 13:30 |
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sdague | because we don't know why systems don't build | 13:31 |
sdague | so the energy should be spent on increasing the understanding there | 13:31 |
afazekas | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1316926 here in the first 2 case it might help, in 3th probbaly not | 13:31 |
sdague | afazekas: no, I don't think it would | 13:32 |
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afazekas | sdague: what is your opinion about having the services to print all threads stack trace on timeout ? | 13:33 |
DinaBelova | sdague, vrovachev - about the polling in the ceilometer | 13:33 |
sdague | what services? | 13:33 |
sdague | afazekas: how would that help? | 13:33 |
afazekas | sdague: n-cpu for example | 13:33 |
DinaBelova | sdague, although currently it's not used for testing, it is still a big part of ceilometer | 13:34 |
DinaBelova | sdague and I think we have one change on review | 13:34 |
sdague | DinaBelova: I know, but it's really problematic | 13:34 |
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DinaBelova | sdague, yeah, I guess so.. | 13:34 |
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DinaBelova | sdague, probably we may find some other solution here | 13:35 |
sdague | and a huge part of the performance problems - http://openstack-in-production.blogspot.com/2014/03/cern-cloud-architecture-update-for.html | 13:35 |
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DinaBelova | sdague, thanks for the link, really | 13:35 |
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DinaBelova | sdague, as for the performance problems - we're working on it :) | 13:35 |
* afazekas one thread dumper: http://www.fpaste.org/108641/ | 13:35 | |
DinaBelova | sdague, as for the polling - probably we may poll not all the meters | 13:36 |
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DinaBelova | but only some of them :-\ | 13:36 |
DinaBelova | although in this case it'll be not clear what we're testing really | 13:36 |
sdague | DinaBelova: so why isn't the effort being put into creating the right notifications so you don't have to poll? | 13:36 |
sdague | I guess that's where my confusion lies | 13:36 |
DinaBelova | sdague, the thing is that as you know there are pollsters (that get the info from services API where it's possible) and agent, sending the notifications | 13:37 |
* afazekas another way https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GuruMeditationReport | 13:37 | |
DinaBelova | basically the thing is that lots of info is clearly collected by asking the appropriate API | 13:37 |
DinaBelova | as services already know about these values | 13:37 |
sdague | DinaBelova: right, but polling puts more load on a lot of systems | 13:38 |
sdague | where as if you consumed the notifications, you wouldn't add more load | 13:38 |
DinaBelova | sdague, but it's really a bad idea create some other service that'll know the same things that nova does already. Or it'll need to be implemented some periodic task in nova itself that'll publish this info | 13:39 |
DinaBelova | I'm not sure why we're where we are now (as I'm still newby here) | 13:39 |
mriedem | got a head scratcher | 13:39 |
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DinaBelova | but I guess the last variant was met cold :) | 13:40 |
sdague | DinaBelova: nova already has a periodic thread that sends info to the scheduler | 13:40 |
sdague | :) | 13:40 |
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DinaBelova | sdague, please let's wait eglynn - he's on the call now, but he may help us to understand thse moments :) | 13:40 |
sdague | sure | 13:41 |
mriedem | sdague: have you seen this before? http://logs.openstack.org/73/97573/5/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/8c8f440/console.html#_2014-06-07_20_42_27_560 | 13:41 |
mriedem | logstash is ~30% success when that shows up | 13:41 |
DinaBelova | sdague. because as said, in current view of how does the ceilo work? pollsters tests are really useful thing :) | 13:41 |
sdague | mriedem: that's the timeout | 13:41 |
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mriedem | sdague: known bug? | 13:42 |
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mriedem | DinaBelova: using ceilometer as a model for good performance? | 13:43 |
DinaBelova | mriedem, sorry? | 13:43 |
mriedem | "because as said, in current view of how does the ceilo work? pollsters tests are really useful thing" | 13:43 |
mriedem | i'd hope that any new service isn't going to follow a model of polling like ceilometer | 13:43 |
DinaBelova | I just say that current ceilometer architecture requires polling :) | 13:44 |
DinaBelova | and if so, it's a good idea to know is it working or not | 13:44 |
mriedem | isn't a lot of ceilometer supposed to be refactored in juno? | 13:44 |
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DinaBelova | mriedem, yes, lots of things | 13:44 |
sdague | mriedem: the real question is why the run took 3 hrs | 13:44 |
openstackrecheck | openstack/tempest change: https://review.openstack.org/97724 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-large-ops: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1257626 | 13:44 |
openstackrecheck | openstack/requirements change: https://review.openstack.org/98824 failed gate-requirements-integration-dsvm in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 13:45 |
sdague | that timeout is there to trigger artifact generation before jenkins kills us | 13:45 |
mriedem | ah | 13:45 |
sdague | because if jenkins kills us, we don't get any logs | 13:46 |
mriedem | right | 13:46 |
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mriedem | looks like a 4 CPU VM | 13:48 |
mriedem | timed out after 2 hours | 13:48 |
mriedem | doesn't look like when this happens we don't get the pretty worker balance dump | 13:48 |
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mriedem | sdague: aha, seeing some rpc errors in n-cpu logs | 13:53 |
sdague | network related? | 13:53 |
mriedem | doesn't look like it | 13:54 |
sdague | mriedem: it was an 8 CPU vm, there were 4 workers | 13:54 |
mtreinish | mriedem: if you want the pretty worker balance dump you can download the subunit file from logs and pipe it into the trace script | 13:56 |
mriedem | where do i tell how many CPUs were on the VM? | 13:56 |
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sdague | mriedem: you can tell by the number of testr workers | 13:58 |
sdague | which will be cpu / 2 | 13:58 |
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mriedem | ah ok | 13:58 |
mriedem | figured it was 1:1 with available CPUs | 13:58 |
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sdague | mriedem: no, that caused too many failures | 13:58 |
mtreinish | sdague: I thought you had a patch that printed proc cpu somewhere | 13:59 |
sdague | mtreinish: it's stuck somewhere | 13:59 |
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sdague | somewhere in my 27 outstanding patches :P | 13:59 |
sdague | or maybe it fell off | 14:00 |
mtreinish | sdague: yeah looks like you abandonded it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97965/ | 14:00 |
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sdague | yeh, honestly, with so many outstanding patches, it's hard to remember what's in the queue for improvements | 14:02 |
sdague | which is kind of why I'm antsy to actually get the ones that pass which make incremental improvements landed | 14:02 |
mtreinish | sdague: so it actually looks like your log format one doesn't work correctly: http://logs.openstack.org/19/98819/5/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-icehouse/95a1375/console.html | 14:03 |
dims_ | sdague, seeing something weird in one of the ssh timeout logs. seems like ntpd is listening on the same ip that was supposed to be on a vm - http://paste.openstack.org/show/83523/ | 14:04 |
dims_ | sdague, "ntpd[2114]: Listen normally on 368 br100 172.24.4.1 UDP 123" | 14:04 |
sdague | mtreinish: ok, that's fun | 14:04 |
sdague | well that definitely means we can't use the oslo config part | 14:05 |
mtreinish | heh, I guess so | 14:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Prettified all HTML files https://review.openstack.org/98445 | 14:07 |
openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Official client based auth https://review.openstack.org/82911 | 14:07 |
dims_ | sdague, isnt that weird? (see above) | 14:08 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack/tempest: make logformat more similar to oslo https://review.openstack.org/98819 | 14:09 |
sdague | dims_: why? | 14:10 |
sdague | I assume ntpd is binding to 0.0.0.0 | 14:10 |
dims_ | floating ip is for the vm right? ntpd is on the host no? | 14:10 |
sdague | floating ip is created on the host then SNAT to the guest | 14:11 |
sdague | on the compute | 14:11 |
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dims_ | ah. thanks sdague | 14:11 |
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mtreinish | sdague: on the latest rev, will we get the request id anywhere? I thought that one of big motivators for this was that we lost the req id in the console output | 14:15 |
openstackrecheck | openstack/ceilometer change: https://review.openstack.org/98820 failed because of: gate-ceilometer-python26: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1327344 | 14:15 |
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sdague | mtreinish: we won't | 14:16 |
openstackrecheck | openstack/heat change: https://review.openstack.org/94755 failed because of: gate-grenade-dsvm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1254890 | 14:16 |
sdague | we will get level though | 14:16 |
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sdague | which would be an improvement all by itself | 14:16 |
sdague | I left the commit comment, in order to get request_id we'll need a custom fixture | 14:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Rob Crittenden proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Configure endpoints to use SSL natively or via proxy https://review.openstack.org/98854 | 14:22 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add a tool for determining unaccounted for rechecks https://review.openstack.org/94624 | 14:23 |
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eglynn | mriedem: I missed your ceilometer question to DinaBelova earlier (... on a call) | 14:27 |
eglynn | mriedem: i.e. "isn't a lot of ceilometer supposed to be refactored in juno?" | 14:27 |
eglynn | mriedem: the focus for juno refactoring is around the metric storage and API end of the pipeline | 14:27 |
eglynn | mriedem: ... but the data acquistion approach (i.e. pollsters & notification handling) will remain largely the same for Juno | 14:28 |
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DinaBelova | sdague, as eglynn is here we may continue that pollsters discussion :) | 14:29 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack/tempest: make config generator more robust https://review.openstack.org/95770 | 14:29 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Fix Apache site config handling on Fedora https://review.openstack.org/98537 | 14:31 |
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sdague | mriedem: you have thoughts about safe substr on binary data? | 14:35 |
sdague | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98505/ turns out slices aren't any good at that | 14:36 |
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mriedem | sdague: me or mtreinish? | 14:37 |
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sdague | well, I was pinging mtreinish a lot, I thought you might have that one off the top of your head :) | 14:38 |
mriedem | ha | 14:38 |
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mriedem | fixing this unicode issue atm | 14:38 |
DinaBelova | eglynn, the thing is that polling is quite expensive for cloud (and its testing), so there is change that'll turn polling of for the tests.. and that means we'll have poor opportunity for the scenario tests... | 14:38 |
sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/05/98505/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/0681279/console.html#_2014-06-09_13_44_59_185 | 14:38 |
sdague | DinaBelova: well we're not turning polling off yet | 14:39 |
eglynn | sdague: WRT "I actually want to completely remove the ceilometer polling from the gate runs" | 14:39 |
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sdague | but I'd really like to get us there. We are going to revert back to ceilometer defaults of 600s | 14:39 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/96829 | 14:40 |
DinaBelova | eglynn, the thing is that I'm quite confused... Polling is a big part of ceilo now | 14:40 |
eglynn | sdague: ... without *any* polling, there's only a limited opportunity to make ceilometer assertions in the gate | 14:40 |
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eglynn | sdague: ... but you're proposing just to revert to the out-of-the-box polling cadence, right? | 14:41 |
sdague | eglynn: right now, yes | 14:41 |
eglynn | DinaBelova: ... so slower polling, not no polling | 14:41 |
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sdague | however, I do really want to get to a 0 polling model if we can | 14:41 |
DinaBelova | eglynn, well, I was confused with the "I actually want to completely remove the ceilometer polling from the gate runs" | 14:42 |
DinaBelova | :) | 14:42 |
sdague | DinaBelova: "I want" :) | 14:42 |
sdague | eglynn: so here's the rub, we actually had to build a work around in our log processing because ceilometer's polling on swift is so frequent and so verbose that it's actually materially responsible to the fact that logstash can't keep up | 14:43 |
sdague | and we're not indexing any ceilometer logs today at all, because they are too big | 14:43 |
sdague | and a big part of it is this tight polling loop | 14:44 |
eglynn | sdague: ... is debug verbosity enabled on the ceilo logging in the gate? | 14:44 |
mtreinish | jogo: heh, your g-r patch doesn't match what you did in the nova hacking bump: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L141 | 14:44 |
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sdague | eglynn: debug is enabled for everything | 14:44 |
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DinaBelova | sdague, hehe, debug here makes ceilometer to have really lots of logs | 14:45 |
sdague | DinaBelova: even without debug there are lots of logs | 14:45 |
DinaBelova | sdague, that's also true | 14:45 |
sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/05/98505/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/0681279/logs/screen-ceilometer-anotification.txt.gz?level=INFO | 14:45 |
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sdague | I would argue that basically none of that is useful to be logged at all | 14:46 |
eglynn | sdague: so reducing the polling frequency is a short term approach, right? | 14:46 |
eglynn | sdague: ... more long term we need to be more judicious what we actually log | 14:46 |
sdague | eglynn: the problem is, you hit the API server just like anything else | 14:47 |
sdague | we actually want all those transactions from real users | 14:47 |
sdague | these are actually 2 orthoginal issues really | 14:47 |
sdague | both of which are currently impacting us | 14:47 |
eglynn | sdague: hitting the nova-api server, you mean? | 14:48 |
sdague | or swift-proxy | 14:48 |
sdague | which is actually where we had to build the work around | 14:48 |
eglynn | sdague: ... at summit we discussed ways of reducing that polling load on nova-api, but continuing to poll the local hypervisor as before | 14:49 |
eglynn | sdague: ... for the purposes of the gate, if swift polling is the main issue, would it make to exclude swift metering for now? | 14:50 |
eglynn | sdague: ... that can be done via the pipeline.yaml | 14:50 |
sdague | eglynn: ok, there 2 issues | 14:50 |
sdague | one is the API polling, which we are reducing to ceilometer defaults | 14:50 |
eglynn | yep | 14:50 |
sdague | and I would like to actually see if we can get away from eventually | 14:50 |
sdague | lets say that is "soft fixed" for now | 14:50 |
eglynn | k | 14:51 |
sdague | there is a different issue, in that ceilometer itself is generating logging artifacts that are of very dubious value | 14:51 |
sdague | at a rate which means all the rest of openstack generates about the same amount of artifacts as ceilometer itself | 14:51 |
sdague | like the fact that ceilometer.pipeline seems to be AUDIT logged every 5 - 10 ms | 14:52 |
eglynn | yes, I agree, continually reporting that a single sample is published without much context is not valuable | 14:52 |
sdague | which will also impact the whole system | 14:52 |
eglynn | sdague: is that 5-10ms frequency of log emission with a polling cadence of 600s? | 14:53 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Enable E129,E128 rules https://review.openstack.org/98909 | 14:53 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Bump hacking to 0.9.x series https://review.openstack.org/98868 | 14:53 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Enable E113,E111,H302,F812,E713 rules https://review.openstack.org/98899 | 14:53 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Enable H407,H305,E123,H307,E122 rules https://review.openstack.org/98918 | 14:53 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Enable H402,E251,E265 rules https://review.openstack.org/98903 | 14:53 |
sdague | eglynn: as far as I can tell it's basically continuous | 14:53 |
ildikov | eglynn: sdague: BTW was that Logging guideline patch accepted finally in Nova? | 14:53 |
sdague | ildikov: nope, because I haven't been able to get back to it :) | 14:53 |
sdague | because, fires. | 14:53 |
eglynn | ildikov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91446/ | 14:54 |
ildikov | eglynn: sdague: I'm just wondering if that could be a good guide maybe to clean up a bit the logging in Ceilo | 14:54 |
sdague | that being said, this is a clear issue that was brought up on the list a couple months ago | 14:54 |
ildikov | sdague: I know that feeling, not just the sun burns these days :) | 14:54 |
sdague | :) | 14:54 |
ildikov | sdague: do you mean the swift related logging topic? | 14:54 |
sdague | ildikov: no, the fact that ceilometer is doing terrible things in logging | 14:55 |
eglynn | sdague: OK, I'll need to reproduce the issue of 5-10ms emission of log messages with 600s polling, as that does seem indicative of something very wrong | 14:55 |
sdague | eglynn: well we've got *tons* of data in the gate | 14:55 |
eglynn | sdague: ... i.e. more than simple over-zealous logging | 14:55 |
sdague | I'd say just crack open the ceilometer logs for any run | 14:56 |
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sdague | and decide if that's what you'd want people to be seeing in production | 14:56 |
sdague | knowing that all production clouds are running at debug at this point | 14:56 |
sdague | because not doing so means you can't trouble shoot anything :) | 14:57 |
eglynn | sdague: ... was just gonna ask, would production normally have debug enabled | 14:57 |
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sdague | from summit - yes | 14:57 |
eglynn | sdague: ... k, got it | 14:57 |
ildikov | sdague: would that logging guideline be useful for us in its current state, even if it is not accepted yet? | 14:57 |
sdague | ildikov: yeh, I think there is a ton of stuff in it's that not controversial | 14:57 |
eglynn | sdague: right-o ... so we've two things to look at with urgency on the ceilo side | 14:57 |
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sdague | eglynn: awesome :) | 14:58 |
sdague | thanks | 14:58 |
ildikov | eglynn: I think on the last logging and monitoring ops session there were a few guys who said yes for debug, even if it is not that good in general... :( | 14:58 |
eglynn | sdague: 1. rate of log message emission | 14:58 |
eglynn | sdague: 2. optimization of polling public APIs (e.g. nova-api) | 14:58 |
sdague | eglynn: yep, swift optimization is probably more important, because swift doesn't use oslo logging, which means filtering is more difficult | 14:59 |
ildikov | sdague: cool, we will use that guide then, tnx :) | 14:59 |
sdague | ildikov: thanks | 14:59 |
eglynn | sdague: cool, got it | 14:59 |
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sdague | sorry for you guys to get the brunt of it here. It's been a thing that came up a few times before, and never got ceilo bites on it. Very happy to see people diving in now. | 15:00 |
eglynn | sdague: np, we need to get our side of the equation sorted out | 15:01 |
ildikov | sdague: we had some discussions for instance about logging earlier, we just had even more urgent issues to deal with before that one :( | 15:01 |
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sdague | ildikov: totally understand | 15:02 |
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ildikov | sdague: we had to fix some things to be able to generate a nice log flood more efficiently ;) | 15:03 |
sdague | ildikov: nice :) | 15:03 |
dims_ | sdague, followed the logs for the FloatingIP add request and it's calling iptables-save/restore just fine and commands do suceed, at this point the only thing i can think of is if we can dump the iptables when we hit ssh timeout to see what gives | 15:04 |
ildikov | sdague: thanks for the heads up on the two main issues here | 15:04 |
mtreinish | dims_: if you can find an ssh timeout on test_minimum_basic that should already include a iptables dump. | 15:07 |
mtreinish | I had a log from it earlier let me see if I can dig it up | 15:08 |
dims_ | mtreinish, ah. ok. | 15:08 |
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mtreinish | dims_: http://logs.openstack.org/07/98507/1/check/check-grenade-dsvm-icehouse/ab8c90a/console.html.gz#_2014-06-06_21_06_36_820 | 15:09 |
dims_ | thanks! will download the whole set | 15:09 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/grenade: Support Ceilometer services https://review.openstack.org/94468 | 15:15 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Update again and retry a failed package install https://review.openstack.org/98398 | 15:15 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: make get-pip.py download failures more clear https://review.openstack.org/98098 | 15:16 |
sdague | eglynn: ^^^ - the grenade patch merged | 15:17 |
sdague | mtreinish: where is the patch to move the logging to the end of the file? | 15:17 |
eglynn | sdague: thank you sir! ... we can declare victory on that BP for juno-1 | 15:18 |
mtreinish | sdague: this one?: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97894/ | 15:18 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Change how tempest debug logs are displayed https://review.openstack.org/97894 | 15:19 |
sdague | mtreinish: yep | 15:21 |
sdague | mkoderer: you +2 on that ^^^ | 15:21 |
sdague | ? | 15:21 |
mtreinish | sdague: the only thing I wasn't sure of on that was I dumped the failure logs before the summary. I wasn't sure which way was better... | 15:23 |
sdague | mtreinish: yeh, I think the current way seems fine | 15:23 |
sdague | the icehouse run failed, so you can see it | 15:23 |
sdague | I was unsure about that either, but I think this probably makes hunting for the fails less burdensome | 15:23 |
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sdague | mtreinish: do you know how to inject other attachments into the subunit stream? | 15:24 |
sdague | I was thinking that is probably what should be done with the failure dumps | 15:25 |
mtreinish | sdague: not off the top of my head | 15:25 |
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sdague | instead of just inlining it in the logs, creating some new attachments | 15:25 |
mtreinish | sdague: oh for the console logs, yeah that might be useful | 15:25 |
sdague | yeh | 15:25 |
sdague | and for anything like iptables dumps | 15:26 |
sdague | then it wouldn't fill up the tempest log | 15:26 |
sdague | but we'd be able to return it on failures | 15:26 |
sdague | that honestly might be the way to deal with the debug http tracing as well | 15:26 |
sdague | we'll build kind of big subunit databases, but I'm not sure that matters | 15:27 |
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jordanP | mtreinish, hi. Sorry to bother you, I know now is not the best time. Still working on my shelve/unshelve scenario. So I got my nova patch merged in Havana. But I am facing 2 more small problems that require a backport to havana (again !). The relevant trace in havana is here http://logs.openstack.org/65/96165/1/check/check-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu-icehouse/2ac603c/logs/new/screen-n-api.txt.gz#_2014-06-04_12_57_04_476 and the patch I need to get merg | 15:29 |
jordanP | ed is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72521/ | 15:29 |
jordanP | (i know you said you would look, sorry to insist) | 15:30 |
mtreinish | sdague: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~python-fixtures/python-fixtures/trunk/view/head:/lib/fixtures/_fixtures/streams.py and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~python-fixtures/python-fixtures/trunk/view/head:/lib/fixtures/_fixtures/logger.py#L94 | 15:32 |
mtreinish | that looks like how the log fixture is doing it | 15:32 |
mtreinish | so building another fixture that adds a new stream is probably what I'd try | 15:32 |
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mtreinish | jordanP: it looks fine to me | 15:46 |
mriedem | sdague: mtreinish: looks like dumping server console output on timeout has issues | 15:46 |
mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/30/98530/1/check/check-grenade-dsvm/6c88d91/console.html#_2014-06-10_03_52_31_555 | 15:46 |
mriedem | Details: {u'message': u"Invalid input for field/attribute length. Value: None. None is not of type 'integer', 'string'", u'code': 400} | 15:46 |
mriedem | i'll check it out | 15:47 |
jordanP | mtreinish, thanks it helps a lot :) As you might have read in the comments, this patch should not be merged without this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77734/ (another backport, only one LOC) that fixes a bug that was introduced by the patch you just +2ed) | 15:49 |
mtreinish | jordanP: I'm wondering if we should just disable the shelve extension for that job instead of doing a bunch of havana backports | 15:49 |
jordanP | the person who submited the backports decided not to merge the 2 backports in one | 15:50 |
jordanP | I haven't concidered this option | 15:50 |
jordanP | shelving is not a configuration option in tempest, as far as I know | 15:50 |
jordanP | but there might be a way, maybe | 15:51 |
mtreinish | jordanP: it's an extension so you can use the api_extensions option | 15:51 |
jordanP | i'll look into it, anyway thanks a lot ! | 15:51 |
mtreinish | you just decorate the test saying it requires the shelve extension (which you should probably do anyway) | 15:51 |
jordanP | yep, good idea, will do | 15:52 |
jordanP | but then on the gate, this extension should be deactivated "server-side" right ? | 15:52 |
jordanP | for the job havana-n-partial only | 15:53 |
jordanP | *n-compute | 15:53 |
mtreinish | mriedem: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/common/waiters.py#n27 it's the none | 15:53 |
mtreinish | it needs to be a number | 15:53 |
mriedem | mtreinish: yeah, fixing it now | 15:53 |
mriedem | mtreinish: although the nova api docs say length is optional | 15:54 |
mtreinish | mriedem: so it's probably better to fix the tempest client to allow that | 15:54 |
mtreinish | jordanP: yeah you'll need a devstack-gate change making the list of available extensions set for that job not include shelve | 15:54 |
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mtreinish | it's probably set to all right now | 15:54 |
jordanP | okay | 15:55 |
openstackgerrit | Ravikumar Venkatesan proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Adds "user-password-update" to v3/test_users https://review.openstack.org/92100 | 15:56 |
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mriedem | mtreinish: so the client blows up because of the jsonschema input validation right? | 15:58 |
mtreinish | mriedem: I thought that was only on the response side | 15:59 |
mtreinish | in tempest at least | 15:59 |
mriedem | yeah that's what it looks like | 15:59 |
mriedem | so maybe api validation on the nova side is busted | 15:59 |
mriedem | must be | 15:59 |
mriedem | ah yup | 15:59 |
mriedem | it's v3 | 16:00 |
mriedem | File "tempest/api/compute/v3/servers/test_server_rescue.py", line 30, in setUpClass | 16:00 |
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mtreinish | mriedem: another reason to stop gating on v3 :) | 16:00 |
mtreinish | I'll send that proposal out today | 16:00 |
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dims_ | mtreinish, there's a boatload of "Adding interface eth0 to bridge br100" in the logs you pointed me to | 16:04 |
dkranz | andreaf: Were you going to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86967/ (non-admin)? It would be great to get it approved soon. | 16:05 |
mtreinish | dims_: so it's probably not the best example. :) It's a grenade run icehouse run so it's going from havana->icehouse... | 16:05 |
dkranz | andreaf: Also, did my comment a minute ago address your question about the client-checking spec? | 16:05 |
andreaf | dkranz: I uploaded patchset #7 on non-admin bp | 16:06 |
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dims_ | mtreinish, i see the same problem in ther other set of logs i was looking at | 16:06 |
dkranz | sdague, mkoderer : I responded to your -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93037/. Can you please remove the -1 or set me straight? | 16:07 |
mriedem | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81947/ | 16:07 |
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mriedem | have to pass -1 for unlimited in v3 api i guess | 16:07 |
andreaf | dkranz: or do you mean answer Rochelle's comment? I will do that | 16:07 |
dkranz | andreaf: That's what I meant. | 16:07 |
dims_ | mtreinish, linux_net.ensure_bridge does not seem to find br100 properly and tries to rebuild it | 16:08 |
mtreinish | mriedem: oh, yeah that should work | 16:08 |
mriedem | mtreinish: easy fix, i'll just update the tempest v3 servers client | 16:08 |
mtreinish | dims_: hmm, yeah that could be a part of it. Although the check is just looking for the bridge file in /sys/class/net | 16:10 |
dims_ | mtreinish, will try to understand the code and ping back :) | 16:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Convert get_console_output length=None to -1 for Nova V3 API calls https://review.openstack.org/99144 | 16:16 |
mriedem | mtreinish: sdague: ^ | 16:16 |
andreaf | dkranz: + 1 on the client-checking | 16:18 |
dkranz | andreaf: thanks | 16:18 |
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andreaf | dkranz: for the non-admin I will do asap, but first I'm trying to find a solution for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98400/ (static test accounts). | 16:20 |
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dkranz | andreaf: Cool! I guess that is not ready for review yet, right? | 16:21 |
andreaf | no it's just a problem statement this far - but if you have ideas on how to do it please feel free to comment! | 16:22 |
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jogo | mtreinish: AFAIK it doesn't need to be does it? | 16:27 |
jogo | mtreinish: if g-r matched per project hacking rules, all projects with hacking 0.8 would fail (since it wouldn't explicitly be in the mirror). | 16:28 |
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mkoderer | dkranz: yep I already tried to discuss with sdague but he was busy with other topics | 16:44 |
mkoderer | dkranz: I think we should add the detail in the spec | 16:44 |
mkoderer | but anyway at the end it's just a nit | 16:46 |
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mtreinish | jogo: but won't the proposal bot keep throwing up commits because they don't match? | 16:49 |
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jogo | mtreinish: we have a special exception for hacking | 16:50 |
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mtreinish | jogo: really? tempest got one with the bump: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96829/ | 16:52 |
jogo | ruh roh | 16:52 |
jogo | mordred: ^ | 16:52 |
jogo | fungi: ^ | 16:53 |
mtreinish | I also like that it fails the requirements check... | 16:53 |
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jogo | mtreinish: link? | 16:55 |
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mtreinish | http://logs.openstack.org/29/96829/7/check/gate-tempest-requirements/d31fec2/console.html | 16:56 |
eglynn | sdague: FYI https://review.openstack.org/99147 (ceilo: Remove low-value logging from publication codepath) | 16:56 |
sdague | eglynn: awesome | 16:57 |
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jogo | mtreinish: lol, did your bump hacking patches in tempest land at least? | 16:58 |
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mtreinish | jogo: nope they're stuck on the same thing: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:hacking,n,z | 16:59 |
mtreinish | in the most recent rev I tried copying the string from g-r and had the same issue | 16:59 |
mtreinish | does your nova patch get past the requirements check? | 16:59 |
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jogo | mtreinish: I doubt it | 17:01 |
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mordred | jogo: what did I do? | 17:07 |
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openstackrecheck | openstack/tempest change: https://review.openstack.org/92436 failed because of: gate-grenade-dsvm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315095 | 17:08 |
vrovachev | mtreinish: sdague: Hi, in my patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64136/) XenServer CI permanently falls. Fails 11 tests for images. Is it a known issue? Recheck XenServer CI while check won't pass? | 17:11 |
fungi | jogo: i know of no special exception in the proposal bot for hacking version updates | 17:17 |
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bknudson | is this the place to ask a question about adding a test to tempest? | 17:55 |
malini1 | hello..I am running into compute test failures in one of my tempest patches. Any pointers to how I can get around this http://logs.openstack.org/44/94944/12/check/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/aad1161/logs/testr_results.html.gz ? | 17:56 |
malini1 | bknudson: it is :) | 17:56 |
bknudson | ok, so I'm looking to add a test for identity v3, essentially the GET /v3 response | 17:56 |
bknudson | looks like there isn't one already | 17:56 |
openstackrecheck | openstack/python-troveclient change: https://review.openstack.org/90462 failed gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 17:57 |
bknudson | but I'm looking at implementing a blueprint and want to make sure the behavior is covered already | 17:57 |
bknudson | I think I need to update services/identity/v3/json/identity_client.py to add a get_version | 17:57 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add fingerprint fur bug 1268725 https://review.openstack.org/98913 | 17:57 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove duplicate query for 1326820 and 1326855 https://review.openstack.org/98919 | 17:57 |
bknudson | and add a tempest/api/identity/v3/test_versions.py file with the test in it | 17:57 |
bknudson | anything else I'd be missing? | 17:57 |
bknudson | are unit tests required for services/identity/v3/json/identity_client.py ? | 17:58 |
bknudson | There aren't any existing unit tests for services/identity/v3/json/identity_client.py | 17:58 |
malini1 | bknudson: AFAIK you don't need unit tests for the client modules. But might be a good idea to confirm with one of the core folks | 17:59 |
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afazekas | sdague: we timeout the ssh connection after 8 sec http://logs.openstack.org/31/95831/4/check/check-grenade-dsvm/421ce32/console.html#_2014-06-09_15_35_58_878 , we should retry it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98212/ | 18:19 |
sdague | afazekas: no we don't | 18:20 |
sdague | you aren't reading the minutes column | 18:20 |
afazekas | http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOiBcInRlbXBlc3QuY29tbW9uLnNzaCB0aW1lb3V0XFw6IHRpbWVkIG91dFwiIEFORCB0YWdzOlwiY29uc29sZVwiIiwiZmllbGRzIjpbXSwib2Zmc2V0IjowLCJ0aW1lZnJhbWUiOiI2MDQ4MDAiLCJncmFwaG1vZGUiOiJjb3VudCIsInRpbWUiOnsidXNlcl9pbnRlcnZhbCI6MH0sInN0YW1wIjoxNDAyNDI0NDA3NDA5LCJtb2RlIjoiIiwiYW5hbHl6ZV9maWVsZCI6IiJ9 | 18:20 |
sdague | we time out after 3 minutes and 8 seconds | 18:20 |
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sdague | that tripped me up the other day as well | 18:21 |
sdague | but the timestamps are very clear | 18:21 |
afazekas | sdague: I do not really like the realtive time print :) | 18:21 |
afazekas | thx | 18:21 |
sdague | now, why we are sleeping an extra 60 seconds, that's probably a bug | 18:22 |
afazekas | sdague: the 60 sec sleep was in the tcp socket | 18:22 |
afazekas | The retry is good as it is :( | 18:23 |
afazekas | just the 'after 2 seconds' printing is incorrect | 18:23 |
sdague | yeh | 18:23 |
sdague | if you want to fix the message, I'd be +2 on that | 18:23 |
sdague | better to not confuse people | 18:24 |
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afazekas | How could we make the gating issues more debug-able ? | 18:25 |
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afazekas | I have seen many issues which without local reproduce and trace cannot be solved | 18:29 |
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afazekas | sdague: What else could be logged,traced, dumped , what trick could be used on failure ? | 18:30 |
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sdague | afazekas: so this was the conversation we started having yesterday, though I'm about to be less useful for the rest of the day. What I think we really need is a unified verification class for guests | 18:40 |
sdague | that includes a series of debug operations | 18:40 |
afazekas | sdague: what else than console output check ? | 18:41 |
sdague | afazekas: icmp traffic works | 18:42 |
sdague | do another round of collecting floating ip config | 18:42 |
sdague | I'm not entirely sure yet | 18:43 |
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sdague | however if we had it all consolidated we could make a pretty thurough dump | 18:43 |
afazekas | On all vm, or just when the ssh connection fails ? | 18:43 |
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afazekas | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/common/ssh.py#L69 her we could add an extra try which finds the vm related to the ip and does the stuff | 18:44 |
afazekas | All vm would have time cost, Very frequently we delete the vm even without an active state (~ 2 sec lifetime), deleting a vm in active state ~12 sec lifetime. deleting a pingable vm can be more than 30 sec | 18:49 |
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andreaf | dkranz: ^^^ | 20:21 |
mriedem | sdague: mtreinish: i'm smelling something in the 3rd party boto tests possibly related to nova-network leaks | 20:22 |
mriedem | http://goo.gl/6f1dfw | 20:23 |
mriedem | seeing InstanceNotFound in allocate_fixed_ip for the boto instance run tests | 20:23 |
mriedem | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/thirdparty/boto/test_ec2_instance_run.py | 20:23 |
mriedem | dims_: ^ | 20:23 |
mriedem | wondering if something in the ec2 api flow isn't cleaning up networks? | 20:23 |
mriedem | mikal: ^ since i found that looking at your logging patch | 20:24 |
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sdague | mriedem: could be, it happens really late though | 20:25 |
sdague | the ec2 tests that is | 20:25 |
mriedem | around the same time as scenario tests though right? | 20:26 |
mriedem | and that's when we also see the ssh failures | 20:26 |
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sdague | mriedem: yeh often | 20:52 |
sdague | mriedem: it's a good guess, the ec2 paths are kind of gorp | 20:52 |
sdague | in both nova and tempest | 20:53 |
sdague | mriedem loves his bug numbers :) | 20:53 |
andreaf | mtreinish: ping | 20:53 |
mriedem | now if i only knew anything about the ec2 api | 20:54 |
mtreinish | andreaf: pong | 20:54 |
mriedem | sdague: i certainly do, otherwise i get lost | 20:54 |
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andreaf | mtreinish: what's the policy for using the gate tag on tests? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90306/10/tempest/api/volume/admin/test_qos.py,cm | 20:54 |
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sdague | andreaf: the policy should be that we remove it | 20:54 |
mtreinish | andreaf: I don't think there is one, it doesn't actually do anything | 20:54 |
sdague | it's vestigial from an effort that never happened | 20:54 |
andreaf | so no no gate tag on new test | 20:55 |
andreaf | sdague, mtreinish: thanks | 20:55 |
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andreaf | it could worth a note in hacking or ~ | 20:56 |
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catohornet | n | 22:11 |
catohornet | n | 22:11 |
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sballe | hi | 22:13 |
sballe | I am running into problems with devstack and stable/icehouse. Is this IRC a good place to ask questions? | 22:14 |
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dims__ | sdague, mreidem, mtreinish - boto had a release on May 30th (2.29.1) we do seem to be picking it up (http://logs.openstack.org/72/98872/2/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron/04fb1fa/logs/pip-freeze.txt.gz) | 22:57 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Test script for CRUD operations on regions https://review.openstack.org/93347 | 23:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack/tempest: make logformat more similar to oslo https://review.openstack.org/98819 | 23:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Hsu proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Handle backup not found in test_create_backup https://review.openstack.org/98693 | 23:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for ceilometer test_notify_alarm bug 1321826 https://review.openstack.org/98149 | 23:55 |
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