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| dtroyer | adam_g: this one? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/devstack-service-redux | 00:05 |
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| adam_g | dtroyer, yeah! | 00:05 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: ok | 00:15 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/python-openstackclient change: https://review.openstack.org/125714 failed because of: gate-grenade-dsvm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1286818 | 00:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/tempest: TEST: Stop suppressing errors during wait_for_server_termination https://review.openstack.org/127085 | 00:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Daisuke Morita proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Enable Swift's newer feature of container-sync https://review.openstack.org/126824 | 00:41 |
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| bknudson | tempest runs are seeming sickly -- http://logs.openstack.org/62/127062/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/bc82fee/console.html#_2014-10-08_23_38_48_083 | 00:44 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: pong | 00:48 |
| jogo | mtreinish: so the nova delete thing | 00:49 |
| jogo | in tempest | 00:49 |
| jogo | the current model of doing try: wait_for_termination except Exception: | 00:50 |
| jogo | is hiding bugs | 00:50 |
| jogo | at least one libvirt issue | 00:50 |
| mtreinish | bknudson: I'd suspect your patch there, because all the jobs are failing with the same auth errors | 00:50 |
| jogo | I know you are not a fan of raising errors during class cleanup and whatnot | 00:51 |
| mtreinish | jogo: so that might be, but if we can't reliably delete, we can't test because everything will fail | 00:51 |
| bknudson | mtreinish: I could very well have broken something. | 00:51 |
| jogo | mtreinish: I posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127085/ to see what it looks like | 00:51 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: long term I think we need an approach for how to test this | 00:52 |
| jogo | well medium term | 00:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Adds test for list/get volume attachments V2 APIs https://review.openstack.org/87191 | 00:52 |
| jogo | before nova has proper functional testing and after we make sure we can delete reliably enough to gate on it | 00:52 |
| mtreinish | jogo: the other thing is I feel like if the delete was important it'd be directly tested in the test case | 00:52 |
| jogo | mtreinish: I think they should be done that way IMHO | 00:53 |
| mtreinish | the cleanup stage is really an after thought to prevent leaks | 00:53 |
| bknudson | I didn't think that change made any functional changes... should just be docs | 00:53 |
| jogo | mtreinish: maybe that is the answer, move tests over to do the delete in test more often | 00:53 |
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| mtreinish | bknudson: yeah it looks like just string changes, but the consistent auth failures in multiple jobs seems like it would be more than a coincidence | 00:55 |
| mtreinish | jogo: yeah, I think that would be fine | 00:55 |
| mtreinish | then we'd be failing as part of the test case and it makes the debug simpler | 00:56 |
| bknudson | heat shut down : http://logs.openstack.org/62/127062/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/bc82fee/logs/screen-h-api.txt.gz#_2014-10-08_23_08_53_264 | 00:56 |
| bknudson | DuplicateOptError: duplicate option: admin_user | 00:56 |
| mtreinish | bknudson: well that would do it :) | 00:57 |
| mtreinish | but if that is an issue, why isn't it failing everywhere? | 00:58 |
| mtreinish | you're not changing the opt name there | 00:58 |
| jogo | mtreinish: cool, I'll start pushing some patches up to do that tomorrow | 00:58 |
| mtreinish | just the help strings | 00:58 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Stop n-cpu by correct process name /w fake https://review.openstack.org/126420 | 00:59 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Fwaas API Test Enhancement https://review.openstack.org/102820 | 00:59 |
| mtreinish | jogo: heh, well if gate failures go up, I'm going to point the angry mob at you :) | 00:59 |
| bknudson | for some reason it's using keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token rather than keystonemiddleware.auth_token | 01:00 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove TESTR_FULL option for running tempest https://review.openstack.org/124190 | 01:01 |
| bknudson | so that might be it... a mismatch because keystoneclient auth_token help text is different than keystonemiddleware auth_token help text. | 01:01 |
| bknudson | I think that would explain it. | 01:01 |
| jogo | mtreinish: fair enough | 01:01 |
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| mtreinish | bknudson: yeah I think that could do it | 01:08 |
| bknudson | mtreinish: the heat code still has refs to keystoneclient.middleware... I should have caught those. :( | 01:09 |
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| bknudson | unbelievable | 01:54 |
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| chandankumar | gmann, hello | 09:30 |
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| chandankumar | gmann, sent the new patch set with modification : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121055/ | 09:31 |
| chandankumar | gmann, please review it when you are free | 09:31 |
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| gmann_ | mtreinish: I have updated bug numbers for meeting- https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tempest-bug-report | 11:39 |
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| gmann_ | mtreinish: I re-spin Nova V2.1 tests spec - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96661/ Please have a look. | 11:42 |
| masayukig | gmann: Thank you for updating :) I'll try to triage some bugs later.. | 11:43 |
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| gmann_ | masayukig: np :) | 11:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Install latest EPEL release https://review.openstack.org/127080 | 12:33 |
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| cdent | sdad (that's awesome, congrats!), jogo, mtreinish: when you get a chance can you put some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115212/ it will probably be a good exerciser of the run_process changes | 12:44 |
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| EmilienM | jlibosva: I can rebase the patch of javelin/neutron if you don't mind | 13:29 |
| jlibosva | EmilienM: go ahead, I just did recheck cause I have a feeling that -1 from Jenkins scares reviewers | 13:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed a change to openstack/tempest: javelin: add network and secgroup resources https://review.openstack.org/100169 | 13:31 |
| EmilienM | jlibosva: done | 13:31 |
| jlibosva | EmilienM++ | 13:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zu Qiang proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Reset no_proxy when the node is installed behind a proxy https://review.openstack.org/94988 | 13:37 |
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| EmilienM | jlibosva: I started some work on unit testing, but no time to continue this week. I'll see this WE a bit. | 13:40 |
| jlibosva | EmilienM: ok | 13:41 |
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| mtreinish | cdent: I put a +2 on the unskip, I think now is a good time to try running that again | 13:46 |
| cdent | cool thank you mtreinish | 13:46 |
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| dkranz | jogo: about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123562/ (server termination) | 15:58 |
| dkranz | jogo: I can approve your patch | 15:58 |
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| dkranz | jogo: But my concern is that most tests do not follow the path you are adding/fixing | 15:58 |
| dkranz | jogo: they use create_test_server | 15:58 |
| dkranz | jogo: so why not just make wait_for_termination fail if it does not succeed as in your other proposed patch? | 15:59 |
| dkranz | jogo: that is, there is nothing wrong with the change, but it only impacts a tiny set of actual server deletions | 15:59 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: if you've got a sec can you review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121988/ | 16:50 |
| mtreinish | after that lands I'm going to push out the first tempest-lib release | 16:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack/tempest: DO NOT MERGE: Test tempest-lib stuff https://review.openstack.org/127291 | 16:53 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ok | 16:55 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: thanks | 16:56 |
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| dkranz | jogo: I have to go to another meeting and will be back in an hour | 17:56 |
| dkranz | jogo: If I am just wrong I can just approve your patch, or mtreinish can | 17:56 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: it will cause a failure, just in the cleanup phase which is not always an obvious location for debug | 17:57 |
| jogo | dkranz: right, I want a failed delete to cause tests to fail. but not during the cleanup phase | 17:58 |
| dkranz | jogo: you mean not during the class cleanup phase, but fail during addCleanUp phase? | 18:00 |
| jogo | dkranz: I think so yes | 18:00 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: no, make delete and wait on delete part of the test | 18:00 |
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| jogo | dkranz: tests should explicitly clean up the server | 18:00 |
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| dkranz | jogo: Then we should not have class cleanup at all | 18:01 |
| jogo | dkranz: well class cleanup is a fall back | 18:01 |
| jogo | of sorts | 18:01 |
| jogo | dkranz: but maybe not | 18:01 |
| dkranz | jogo: wouldn't it be better to make create_test_server just do the addCleanUp then? | 18:01 |
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| dkranz | jogo: And fix the tests that are not using create_test_server to use it? | 18:02 |
| jogo | dkranz: as long as that causes the test to fail not during the cleanup stage | 18:02 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: addCleanup would be the same problem | 18:02 |
| jogo | as in if you can see this job failed versus this cleanup failed | 18:02 |
| dkranz | jogo: well you're change is just putting in an addCleanUp | 18:02 |
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| dkranz | jogo: which actually confused me a little because I thought addCleanUp kind of ignored failures | 18:02 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: that patch just adds a wait to make sure we're not just issuing an async delete and moving on | 18:03 |
| jogo | mtreinish: I do use addcleanup right now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123562/2/tempest/api/compute/admin/test_servers.py | 18:03 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: yes, but the failure will still happen during cleanup, right? | 18:03 |
| mtreinish | the fixes jogo is talking about will have to come later and will require changing some tests | 18:03 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yes, but failures in addCleanup can be very confusing | 18:04 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I know | 18:04 |
| jogo | so maybe I should revise my patch to not use addcleanup | 18:04 |
| dkranz | jogo: that would better achieve what you want in these cases but leave untouched the majority of server creates which use create_test_server | 18:05 |
| jogo | dkranz: so I need to revise those next | 18:05 |
| jogo | should these tests use create_test_server ? | 18:05 |
| dkranz | jogo: seems like you want a try/finally for deletion that does not use addCleanUp | 18:05 |
| jogo | dkranz: good idea | 18:06 |
| dkranz | jogo: But the implementation of that would look exactly like what addCleanUp does I think | 18:06 |
| dkranz | jogo: this is not so easy | 18:07 |
| jogo | dkranz: yeah, none of the answers we have are ideal | 18:07 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: the other option would be to just wrap cleanup to detect a 404 and ignore it | 18:07 |
| mtreinish | s/cleanup/delete/ | 18:08 |
| mtreinish | that way you can add the cleanup for protection | 18:08 |
| jogo | what about https://docs.python.org/2/library/unittest.html#unittest.TestCase.doCleanups | 18:08 |
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| dkranz | jogo: yeah, we could hook in there | 18:09 |
| jogo | try: finally: do cleanups | 18:09 |
| dkranz | jogo: got to run, back at next hour | 18:10 |
| jogo | dkranz: kk | 18:10 |
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| dkranz | jogo: saw your comment in the patch we were discussing. The only downside to the suggested approach is that we will be serializing execution around the synchronous deletion time which is now done in the background. afazekas noted this in his review comment. | 19:02 |
| dkranz | jogo: but obviously we can't both do cleanup in the background and do it before the test completes | 19:03 |
| dkranz | jogo: One possible compromise would be to keep the class level cleanup but record more information so that the log message tells you which test "failed" | 19:04 |
| dkranz | jogo: I almost think we would be better off not trying to track these failures but running explicit stress tests around deletion | 19:06 |
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| dkranz | jogo: parallel tempest in the constrained dsg environment is a kind of stress test anyway, but not a good one. | 19:06 |
| dkranz | jogo: there already is such a test in the tempest stress framewoek | 19:07 |
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| afazekas | dkranz: AFAIK now we do not have the logs from class level operations, just one exception | 19:19 |
| dkranz | afazekas: you mean from BaseComputeTest.clear_servers, I think that is right | 19:20 |
| dkranz | afazekas: But we could include, for example, the test in which the test was created and print that out too | 19:21 |
| dkranz | afazekas: But I don't know if that would satisfy the need. | 19:21 |
| dkranz | afazekas: Honestly, I think we would do better to run a lot of stress jobs and debug these issues there | 19:21 |
| afazekas | dkranz: BTW at tempest/test.py at L239 we might want to remove the try block | 19:22 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: I don't see a try block there ?? | 19:22 |
| afazekas | dkranz: It is late here and I am hungry , lets continue it tomorrow | 19:22 |
| dkranz | afazekas: github url? | 19:22 |
| dkranz | afazekas: ok :) | 19:23 |
| afazekas | L293 | 19:23 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish, andreaf : I question whether we want the try block here https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/test.py#L292 | 19:25 |
| dkranz | Why should we delete the tenant if the call to clean its resources fails? | 19:25 |
| dkranz | What is the benefit? | 19:25 |
| dkranz | I thought the point was to make source resource clean was always called, not to delete tenants if it fails. | 19:26 |
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| dkranz | If we delete the tenant then we strand the resources and things like the cleanup script cannot run | 19:26 |
| dkranz | afazekas: I think you are right ^^^ | 19:28 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: it's needed for the test-accounts work, if we don't ensure we properly release the credentials at the end of a test class we'll exhaust the set | 19:30 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: But if resource_cleanup fails, there may be objects still in the tenant, and re-using it may fail in strange ways | 19:30 |
| adam_g | javelin question.. i'd like to make creation of certain resources conditional on the services that are deployed. would it be preferred to modify the javelin code in tempest to skip creation of $foo if $bar, or to update grenade to generate a resources.yaml based on ENABLED_SERVICES or similar? | 19:31 |
| adam_g | jogo, ^ | 19:31 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: it depends on the failure really. But, in the case of resource cred list exhaustion the failures would be opaque, (InvalidConfig error in setupclasss) but I feel like an unexpected resource causing a failure would at least show the source of the issue | 19:33 |
| mtreinish | the other thing is we were doing a really poor job of handling this before that was added | 19:34 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: if you've got a suggestion on how to improve that logic push up a patch. | 19:34 |
| mtreinish | but things there will change a bit when andreaf starts working on the split for the second part of that bp | 19:35 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I am thinking about it but need to study how exactly the test account flow works. I reviewed some of the patches but it was a gwhile ago. | 19:35 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I thought what we were doing a poor job of before was making sure that the "resource deleter stuff" was always called regardless of what happened during setUpClass or test execution. | 19:36 |
| mtreinish | adam_g: I think they're trying to decouple javelin as much as possible from the tempest config | 19:36 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: anyway, I'll think about it. | 19:36 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah, but then when we added that (or had it with safe_setup) the issue became skips and attr errors | 19:37 |
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| adam_g | mtreinish, makes sense | 19:37 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Yes, but those are different uses. Do me, the tenant deletion even on error came along with that but is not desired. | 19:37 |
| mtreinish | the tearDownClasses often depended on things being set in the setupclass which wasn't true when we raised an exception and called tearDownclass | 19:37 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: as a first pass you can switch that except to just be attr error | 19:38 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: yes, I don't deny that | 19:38 |
| mtreinish | and see what happens | 19:38 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I think that is on the right track. We should only catch exceptions and not fail if they are exceptions that we are anticipating | 19:39 |
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| mtreinish | adam_g: so I think handling the logic in the grenade side would probably be the right approach for that | 19:39 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: the problem with that, which is why I think andreaf did a blanket exception was that code gets run by ever test class, and at this point the set of known exceptions isn't always consistent | 19:40 |
| mtreinish | I really don't like blanket exceptions either | 19:40 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: the right thing here is to actually use the code in the resource cleanup script for resource cleanup if it gets called due to a raisd exception | 19:41 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: so we make sure to get them all | 19:42 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: right now we might lose things if cleaning a particular resource raises an exception before others can be cleaned. | 19:42 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: not so easy | 19:42 |
| mtreinish | yeah it would probably require refactoring every test class. That is the basic approach andreaf is taking with his staged setup/teardown | 19:43 |
| mtreinish | to at least group things, it's not at the individual call level | 19:43 |
| mtreinish | but this way we should have a better idea of what to catch and ignore | 19:44 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115353/ | 19:44 |
| mtreinish | although it looks like that patch is missing the second half which pairs the setup stage to the teardowns | 19:45 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: If we do this right, we could get rid of all the service-specific stuff in dpatersons script since that logic should really be in the base classes of tempest proper | 19:47 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish, dkranz: I think for now it's up to the test classes to handle failures on cleanup properly, e.g. if a cleanup fails continue with the next one | 19:58 |
| dkranz | andreaf: I agree. What I want to avoid is deletion of the user/tenant if something failed unexpectedly. | 20:00 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, dkranz: to be able to actually handle the cleanups and retries on cleanups in the base class we would need to have a common type of resources (e.g. test resources) and handle whatever try/except or retry logic we want to have in the base class | 20:00 |
| dkranz | andreaf: It should really be on OpenStack to free resources used by a tenant when the tenant is deleted. | 20:00 |
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| andreaf | dkranz: so we could specialize things here a bit to solve this in the tearDownClass implementation | 20:01 |
| andreaf | dkranz, what we need to do for test accounts is to cleanup resources which actually means only releasing locks | 20:01 |
| jogo | dkranz: yeah I could build a separate stress test for this | 20:02 |
| dkranz | andreaf: so we don't have to delete the user/tenant? | 20:02 |
| jogo | dkranz: I already added a patch to log the failure to delete | 20:02 |
| andreaf | dkranz: while in case of dynamically provisioned credentials we actually delete the credentials | 20:02 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I just left you a review comment with a super hacky code snippet of what you could try to do on the cleanup side for the setup split | 20:02 |
| dkranz | jogo: That would be a big plus. The fact that we are using the normal gate jobs as stress tests is not good IMO | 20:02 |
| mtreinish | I don't think we should land the framework without having the cleanup side mapped out too | 20:02 |
| dkranz | jogo: It causes goal conflict | 20:02 |
| dkranz | jogo: like fast vs easier to debug races | 20:03 |
| andreaf | dkranz, we could differentiate the behaviour depending on the type of credentials, so in case we use pre-provisioned ones do the cleanup, else not | 20:03 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: ok let me have a look | 20:03 |
| dkranz | andreaf: I was going to suggest another flag, but that is probably good enough | 20:03 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: we already have the config options for that | 20:04 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: yes | 20:04 |
| jogo | dkranz: yeah I'll turn that into a stress test | 20:05 |
| jogo | dkranz mtreinish: speaking of stress tests | 20:05 |
| jogo | this is the kind of thing we should run as a nova 'functional' test or at least not gate anything besides nova on | 20:05 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: yes but there's only two things that need teardown, credentials and resources | 20:05 |
| andreaf | setting up the clients wouldn't need a teardown I think | 20:06 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, then that makes it easier | 20:06 |
| mtreinish | I was just being thorough and adding them for each stage | 20:06 |
| mtreinish | jogo: we run the stress tests as a periodic only at this point | 20:06 |
| dkranz | jogo: I don't see stress tests as gating. That is part of our current problem. | 20:07 |
| dkranz | jogo: but it could run continuously | 20:07 |
| jogo | could we make some stress tests run as non-voting in the check queues or something? | 20:08 |
| dkranz | jogo: absolutely, but for the create/delete stress test it would only make sense on nova as you sais | 20:08 |
| dkranz | said | 20:08 |
| mtreinish | jogo: yeah that would be easy, just setup a json file with the tests you want to run and add a tox target for it (or one that takes in the json file as a posarg) | 20:08 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, so my approach was, for skip_checks and other code before credentials are setup we don't need any teardown | 20:08 |
| jogo | dkranz: right, so if we could have a nova-stress test job | 20:08 |
| mtreinish | then we can add that job to the nova queue easily | 20:09 |
| jogo | mtreinish: is this something that should become a tempest-lib based thing and be called a functional test? | 20:09 |
| jogo | or save that for another interation? | 20:09 |
| jogo | iteration | 20:09 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, then we start doing things that might break, but I agree we need to track what was done that needs teardown - I guess my patch was hacked together a bit to quickly | 20:09 |
| mtreinish | jogo: that would probably be the next iteration, splitting the stress test framework is on the list for migration | 20:10 |
| mtreinish | but it's not clear whether it's tempest-lib or something else at this point | 20:10 |
| dkranz | jogo: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/stress/actions/server_create_destroy.py | 20:11 |
| mtreinish | because really all it is a custom test runner | 20:11 |
| mtreinish | jogo: if you're serious about setting this up, there was a test case that jeblair wanted to add. Something they were hitting in the wild | 20:11 |
| mtreinish | with snapshotting | 20:11 |
| mtreinish | I don't remember exactly what it was though | 20:12 |
| jogo | mtreinish: writing some tempest tests sounds like fun so I'm in | 20:12 |
| jogo | mtreinish: are the stress tests at least self gating? | 20:13 |
| dkranz | jogo: what do you mean? | 20:13 |
| mtreinish | jogo: you wouldn't necessarily have to write new ones, you can use any existing test | 20:13 |
| mtreinish | jogo: no the tests in tempest/stress aren't self gating | 20:13 |
| jogo | dkranz: do they get run on tempest changes to stress tests | 20:13 |
| jogo | mtreinish: shouldn't they be? | 20:13 |
| mtreinish | probably, but we normally encourage just writing a regular api or scenario test and then they can be used with the stress framework | 20:14 |
| jogo | mtreinish: so I have been seeing failures in delete and in rebuild and a few other operations | 20:14 |
| jogo | mtreinish: shouldn't there at least be a stress sanity job | 20:14 |
| mtreinish | jogo: there is a nightly | 20:14 |
| jogo | why not gating? | 20:15 |
| jogo | something that runs things just once | 20:15 |
| dkranz | jogo: that makes sense | 20:15 |
| dkranz | jogo: I will check what we do | 20:15 |
| mtreinish | jogo: I think it was because the stress specific tests are basically duplicates of existing test cases | 20:16 |
| mtreinish | we probably should sanity check them to avoid bit rot etc | 20:16 |
| mtreinish | but that's why we did it as a nightly | 20:16 |
| jogo | mtreinish: nightly are silly | 20:16 |
| mtreinish | no argument from me | 20:16 |
| mtreinish | it's also been like >1yr since we did anything with those jobs I think | 20:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Fergal Mc Carthy proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: local.conf processing doesn't handle '=' in values https://review.openstack.org/124467 | 20:17 |
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| jogo | mtreinish dkranz: I'll look into moving the nightly job into a sanity job that runs in check queue (non-voting for starters) | 20:17 |
| mtreinish | jogo: I think it runs for an hour by default... | 20:17 |
| mtreinish | jogo: yep: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tox.ini#n85 | 20:18 |
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| jogo | are tempest logs in logstash? | 20:20 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: in your example, if the 2nd stage fails with an unexpected exception, resources from the first step are not cleaned up | 20:20 |
| jogo | never mind they are | 20:20 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: so regardless the type of the exception being expected or not, we should try and cleanup whatever resources were setup | 20:20 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: oops, yeah we probably should put it in a giant try blcok then to handle that | 20:21 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOlwiRmFpbGVkIHRvIGRlbGV0ZSBzZXJ2ZXJcIiBBTkQgdGFnczpcInRlbXBlc3QudHh0XCIgQU5EIHRhZ3M6XCJtdWx0aWxpbmVcIiIsImZpZWxkcyI6W10sIm9mZnNldCI6MCwidGltZWZyYW1lIjoiMTcyODAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJ0aW1lIjp7InVzZXJfaW50ZXJ2YWwiOjB9LCJzdGFtcCI6MTQxMjg4NjA3MjMyNywibW9kZSI6IiIsImFuYWx5emVfZmllbGQiOiIifQ== | 20:21 |
| jogo | message:"Failed to delete server" AND tags:"tempest.txt" AND tags:"multiline" | 20:21 |
| mtreinish | the pseudo lifo logic would take care of handling the staged approach | 20:21 |
| jogo | hmm never mind that | 20:21 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: we should still keep the individual try blocks after each stage I think | 20:22 |
| jogo | mtreinish: so message:"Waiting for deletion of server" AND tags:"tempest.txt" AND build_status:"SUCCESS" isn't as frequent as I thought | 20:26 |
| jogo | 26 in last 7days | 20:26 |
| mtreinish | jogo: well that's probably a good thing | 20:27 |
| jogo | versus over 500 for success and faiure | 20:27 |
| jogo | mtreinish: yes | 20:27 |
| openstackrecheck | openstack/glance change: https://review.openstack.org/127248 failed gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 20:27 |
| mtreinish | jogo: and it looks like a good chunk are on check jobs so they could just be bad patches | 20:28 |
| mtreinish | or they might all be check | 20:28 |
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| jogo | oh interesting yeah | 20:30 |
| mtreinish | although if they're on sucesses that's probably not a good thing if they are bad patches... | 20:30 |
| jogo | its a bunch of different changes | 20:30 |
| mtreinish | bbiab, gonna work my way home | 20:33 |
| jogo | mtreinish: you aren't at home? | 20:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Add list servers to large ops test https://review.openstack.org/78480 | 20:45 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: I was at a stabucks | 20:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Remove @author tags from copyright statements https://review.openstack.org/127344 | 20:53 |
| mtreinish | jogo: ^^^ is there a hacking rule for that? | 20:54 |
| jogo | mtreinish: he posted a hacking patch this morning | 20:55 |
| jogo | I don't really think a hacking pach is needed for that though | 20:56 |
| jogo | same as vim modelines | 20:56 |
| jogo | once we nix all the cases of them | 20:56 |
| jogo | they shouldn't be coming back | 20:56 |
| jogo | because if they aren't there at all, its easy to see they are silly | 20:56 |
| mtreinish | jogo: you'd think, but I the ones being removed there were brand new. Plus I feel if it's the kind of thing to go to the effort of removing everywhere then it should probably be blocked | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Make test_list_servers_filter_exist_host use create_test_server https://review.openstack.org/123562 | 20:58 |
| * jogo looks | 20:58 | |
| mtreinish | fwiw, I think tempest has a local rule about the vim modelines | 20:59 |
| jogo | nova does too I think | 20:59 |
| jogo | so the answer is, when I get around to it is make a directory for off by default rules | 20:59 |
| jogo | that projects can consume | 20:59 |
| mtreinish | jogo: yeah that would owrk | 20:59 |
| jogo | although author tags is a good candidate for a on by default rule | 21:00 |
| jogo | i have to review his patch, it had evil regex in it | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for bug 1379201 https://review.openstack.org/127346 | 21:00 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I just saw your review on that author tags patch. See ^^^ | 21:01 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: ok ,so the proposal is to have an importable hacking rule ? | 21:10 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: there wouldn't be any import it would just be included in the next hacking release | 21:10 |
| mtreinish | the first tempest-lib release has been pushed: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/tempest-lib/0.0.1 | 21:12 |
| mtreinish | we probably should update some of the metadata for the next one | 21:12 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, yay :) | 21:13 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: I'll try and propose an update on resource cleanup tomorrow | 21:14 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ok cool | 21:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Move default stress test to run things 3 times instead of time based https://review.openstack.org/127351 | 21:23 |
| ianw | dtroyer: do you mind if I self approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124227/ (Single quote iniset argument in merge_config_file) -- it is holding up Baodong | 21:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-dev/grenade: Generate javelin config dynamically https://review.openstack.org/127352 | 21:23 |
| jogo | mtreinish: ^ | 21:23 |
| dtroyer | ianw: I +A it…just a tiny bit better than self-approve ;) | 21:24 |
| ianw | dtroyer: great, thanks. i need to make time to think about the ini_add stuff, if it can be done multi-line with an array maybe | 21:25 |
| dtroyer | ianw: that sounds like it should work, without thinking about it too hard. I think it should at least remove one layer of quote-stripping | 21:26 |
| ianw | dtroyer: context switching into that code is about an half-an-hour exercise in itself :) | 21:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-dev/grenade: Generate javelin config dynamically https://review.openstack.org/127352 | 21:26 |
| dtroyer | ianw: I hear you, one reason I hadn't dug in too far yet | 21:27 |
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| jogo | dkranz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127351/ | 21:37 |
| jogo | does anyone track the nightly jobs? | 21:37 |
| dkranz | jogo: I commented on that patch | 21:38 |
| dkranz | jogo: I do, with some frequency | 21:38 |
| jogo | I saw, and follow up is ^ | 21:38 |
| jogo | dkranz: oh neat! | 21:38 |
| jogo | kk let me revise the patch then | 21:38 |
| dkranz | jogo: This is one of the biggest holes we have from a process standpoint though | 21:38 |
| jogo | dkranz: which? | 21:39 |
| dkranz | jogo: the fact that the only process we have that works is blocking failures at the gate | 21:39 |
| dkranz | jogo: any sane organization would tier tests | 21:39 |
| dkranz | jogo: so that some run post-merge, but frequently | 21:40 |
| jogo | dkranz: well in this case I just want these tests to be self gated | 21:40 |
| dkranz | jogo: but that only works if some one is known to be looking | 21:40 |
| dkranz | jogo: I know and am not objecting to that | 21:40 |
| jogo | dkranz: so this is exactly the outcome of the qa midcycle in germany | 21:40 |
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| jogo | dkranz: I think the difference between gating and post-merge tests is where the burden to maintain lands | 21:41 |
| jogo | gating, the entire team has to maintain | 21:41 |
| dkranz | jogo: exactly | 21:41 |
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| jogo | post-merge only the people who care about X have to maintain | 21:41 |
| jogo | because entire team can just kill the code if it stops working | 21:41 |
| jogo | so AFAIK infra needs help getting post-merge jobs to work | 21:41 |
| jogo | dkranz: if you want to help | 21:41 |
| dkranz | jogo: I'm not sure how. I watch the tempest nightlies. | 21:42 |
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| dkranz | jogo: This is more of a process problem than technical. | 21:42 |
| jogo | dkranz: there is a doc on this somewhere | 21:42 |
| dkranz | jogo: what kind of help does infra need? | 21:42 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: well to be fair the stress nightlies haven't failed in a long time | 21:42 |
| jogo | mtreinish: do you remember where that doc is? | 21:43 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Yes, but they are not very stressful :) | 21:43 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: let's crank them up and see what happens | 21:43 |
| mtreinish | jogo: doc for what? | 21:43 |
| jogo | mtreinish: roadmap for getting to post-merge testing | 21:43 |
| mtreinish | nah, I didn't even know there was a doc published for it | 21:44 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: go for it, I've been thinking we need to run all the scenario tests as part of that nightly stress job | 21:44 |
| jogo | mtreinish: AFAIK the email sean and jim sent out | 21:44 |
| mtreinish | oh, the email. Yeah I can pull up that link | 21:45 |
| jogo | dkranz: ++ to cranking the stress up | 21:45 |
| dkranz | jogo, mtreinish : ok... | 21:45 |
| mtreinish | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/041057.html | 21:45 |
| jogo | dkranz: one of the steps for getting to post-merge was to make it easy to discover when those jobs begin failing etc | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Add new tox target to sanity check stress tests https://review.openstack.org/127351 | 21:46 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: what do you think of the new target name? | 21:46 |
| dkranz | jogo: when you get to the point that the watchers care, they just need to look! | 21:47 |
| dkranz | jogo: an email to the watchers is all you need | 21:47 |
| jogo | dkranz: well we want to make it easy for the people who don't care (the core team) to know when the job hasn't worked in a long time | 21:47 |
| dkranz | jogo: I get an email every day about tempest | 21:47 |
| jogo | dkranz: what about of the jobs fail 1% of the time | 21:47 |
| mtreinish | jogo: yeah that's fine, I would have gone stress-check, but I'm fine with sanity | 21:47 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: well only if it fails | 21:48 |
| jogo | mtreinish: I liked the name | 21:48 |
| dkranz | jogo: Sure, it would be better if we kept a history, nice graphs, etc. | 21:48 |
| mtreinish | jogo: heh, stress our sanity :) | 21:48 |
| jogo | dkranz: anyway that email includes a bunch of steps | 21:48 |
| jogo | dkranz: and infra should know where we are in it | 21:48 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: there was a thread started by jhesketh about how to handle visualizing this stuff (specifically post jobs, but its the same for periodics) | 21:49 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: sure | 21:49 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: oh neat I must have missed that | 21:50 |
| mtreinish | jogo: well he was proposing just sending them to the -qa list as a solution | 21:50 |
| jogo | oh that is still a thing? | 21:51 |
| * jogo wants a dashboard | 21:51 | |
| mtreinish | yeah the list is there just for the nightlies | 21:51 |
| mtreinish | yeah I want a dashboard too | 21:51 |
| mtreinish | that's the only thing I miss from the days of a single jenkins | 21:51 |
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| jogo | haha yeah | 21:51 |
| jogo | well actually a dash is easy | 21:52 |
| jogo | graphite | 21:52 |
| jogo | jhesketh: ping | 21:52 |
| jogo | I think with graphite + logstash we can build a decent dashboard quickly | 21:52 |
| jogo | graphite shows the pass fail rates, and logstash to find the specific jobs that failed | 21:53 |
| jogo | mtreinish: what ML was that thread on? | 21:53 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/keystone change: https://review.openstack.org/119804 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357055 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1311066 | 21:54 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-qa/2014-October/001258.html | 21:54 |
| mtreinish | I moved it to the dev list but it died there except for one reply from fungi that reporting back to gerrit post merge is hard | 21:55 |
| mtreinish | let me dig up the dev list side | 21:55 |
| mtreinish | jogo: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/047560.html | 21:55 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: thanks, responded | 22:05 |
| jogo | I think this is a very solvable thing | 22:05 |
| jogo | fungi: ^ | 22:05 |
| fungi | cool | 22:07 |
| fungi | i'll let you work out the map-merge-to-triggering-change logic | 22:08 |
| jogo | fungi: which logic is that? | 22:08 |
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| fungi | the logic to figure out how a commit in the post pipeline maps back to a change to report on | 22:08 |
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| jogo | fungi: oh it wouldn't | 22:09 |
| fungi | zuul handles them differently because they are different things | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | jogo: once we get subunit2sql up and running we probably could add that to the equation also | 22:09 |
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| * fungi will read the reply before commenting further then | 22:09 | |
| dkranz | mtreinish, jogo : I've got to go now but the current nightly stress doesn't really do much. It only runs the few things that are marked as 'stress'. This is more appropriate for the new thing Joe introduced. | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | get per test data for those jobs | 22:09 |
| dkranz | I am going to make it do something more real, and targeted. We should probably have multiple jobs for different stress areas. | 22:10 |
| jogo | mtreinish: ahh right, it will be another tool for analysis | 22:10 |
| jogo | dkranz: ++ that sounds like a great idea | 22:11 |
| dkranz | jogo: or I could just make tox run a sequence of stress runs | 22:11 |
| jogo | dkranz: long run I would like to make the nova targeted stress stuff be a nova only functional test or something | 22:11 |
| dkranz | jogo: right. Should do both of job-per-service and running a sequence of targeted tests | 22:11 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: as I was saying before it should just be a job that takes one of the json files in from posargs then we can handle the config per job in d-g | 22:12 |
| jogo | dkranz: ? | 22:12 |
| jogo | all I am trying to do at the moment is make stress jobs self gating | 22:12 |
| dkranz | jogo: right, that is fine. I'm not talking about touching the one you added. | 22:12 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ok, but I think we may want more than that. I'll come up with something tomorrow. | 22:13 |
| jogo | does the @stresstest thing still work? | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | jogo: heh, that's what I was just leaving a review comment on your patch for | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | it does, that's what -a is used for on run_stress, it runs all the tests that have the decorator set | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | jogo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/cmd/run_stress.py#n35 | 22:17 |
| fungi | jogo: so on your reply, yes that should work just fine. i think trying to report post job results back to changes in gerrit is a non-starter for multiple reasons but a status dashboard of some sort (assuming people will actually look at it) would fit well | 22:18 |
| jogo | fungi: yeah, and it shouldn't be too hard to build one I think | 22:18 |
| fungi | agreed... something on status.o.o site would make sense | 22:19 |
| jogo | fungi: yeah | 22:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-dev/grenade: Generate javelin config dynamically https://review.openstack.org/127352 | 22:19 |
| fungi | it's been the solution we've held up in multiple past conversations as probably the best option, just nobody's done it yet | 22:20 |
| * mtreinish is not looking forward to writing the dashboard view for subunit2sql, sucks at anything on the web... | 22:20 | |
| jogo | mtreinish: so this is silly | 22:20 |
| jogo | mtreinish: why do I need a json file ? | 22:20 |
| mtreinish | jogo: this is what I was saying earlier those tests in tempest.stress.actions are really just duplicates of other test cases | 22:21 |
| jogo | mtreinish: now I get it | 22:21 |
| jogo | I thought you meant the tempest/stress folder | 22:21 |
| jogo | err directory | 22:22 |
| jogo | fungi: yeah I don't really see a better way | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | the json file is just the import format to the stress runner to tell it which test cases to run and the conditions on how to run them (like how to handle setupclass, how to loop, etc) | 22:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Framework for staged setup https://review.openstack.org/115353 | 22:22 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, still WIP ^^^ but you may want to look if you like it better | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ok I'll take a look | 22:23 |
| jogo | fungi: so what other steps are still TODOs for getting post-gate jobs | 22:23 |
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| jogo | or whatever we are calling them, the post-merge pool of jobs that we run in a loop | 22:24 |
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| jogo | fungi: also if you could respond to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048203.html with your thoughts so its on the record | 22:25 |
| jogo | fungi: as this actually sounds like something we can get a POC up before Paris | 22:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Single quote iniset argument in merge_config_file https://review.openstack.org/124227 | 23:08 |
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