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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/tempest: Add the description of hacking rule T107 https://review.openstack.org/156120 | 04:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/tempest: Add hacking rule for baremetal client https://review.openstack.org/156121 | 04:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/tempest: Block additionalProperties on Nova API tests https://review.openstack.org/156130 | 05:57 |
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| oomichi | gmann, cyeoh: ^^^ blocks extra properties on v2.1 API. maybe it can detect the other thing also like leaking new properties on the schema definitions. | 05:58 |
| cyeoh | oomichi, is this something you want in permanently or just for debugging? | 05:59 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: it should be permanent after v2.1 becomes CURRENT because we should not add properties without microversions, I guess. | 06:00 |
| cyeoh | oomichi: this schema will be applied to microversions too though won't it? | 06:01 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: we need the other schema for microversions like nova side, I guess. | 06:02 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: so current schemas are just for v2 and v2.1, then we can block additional properties on the schemas. | 06:02 |
| cyeoh | yea, I guess I'm just thinking of the first microversion to merge. Because it will definitely fail this as it adds a parameter to keypairs | 06:03 |
| cyeoh | so we'll need something in place to hande it | 06:03 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: yeah, right. in long term, I think such changes should be handled in Nova side, that means most part of API tests should be migrated from Tempest into Nova. | 06:04 |
| cyeoh | yep, agreed about that | 06:05 |
| gmann | cyeoh: oomichi : along with response schema so that with microversion schema can be added accordingly | 06:05 |
| cyeoh | gmann, oomichi: yea, I'm just trying to ensure the first microversion has a clear run through once we're ok with v2.1 and microversions and we don't have to spend time doing things lik tempest changes | 06:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/tempest: Add hacking rule for baremetal client https://review.openstack.org/156121 | 06:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/tempest: Apply T108 rule to all service clients https://review.openstack.org/156125 | 06:09 |
| gmann | cyeoh: oomichi : i think microverion patch should be ok even with additionalProperties as tempest does request with v2 and v2.1 not microversion as of now at least | 06:10 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149125/ is fine for you ? that is the one in v2.1 Criteria | 06:10 |
| cyeoh | gmann: ah, yes, ok | 06:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Masayuki Igawa proposed openstack/tempest: WIP: Remove tempest-lib exc Frobidden to Unauthorized translation https://review.openstack.org/156102 | 07:13 |
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| ttx | jogo: All stable-maint core replied that thy would be interested in learning enough of the gate mechanics to be useful in helping fixing the stable gate (and hopefully the master one) | 09:31 |
| ttx | jogo: not exactly sure what would be the best format for the training -- bootstrapping hour, virtual sprint, in-person sprint... | 09:32 |
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| ihrachyshka | ttx, jogo, I've already checked the bootstapping session on gate debugging, but that was pretty obvious. I think I lack some perspective on grenade and javelin and other tools around cross branch testing. Do we have any resources ready to be consumed on it? | 09:48 |
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| yamamoto | sdague: ping | 09:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tempest: Use cls instead of self in classmethod https://review.openstack.org/154693 | 10:25 |
| openstackrecheck | openstack/horizon change: https://review.openstack.org/155757 failed gate-tempest-dsvm-full in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 10:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jordan Pittier proposed openstack/tempest: Cinder: Wait for volume to be 'available' before attaching https://review.openstack.org/156171 | 10:29 |
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| sdague | ttx: have folks taken a look at the openstack bootstrapping hour we did? | 11:24 |
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| pal | How can I remove or uninstall neutron completely from my server after installing openstack | 11:34 |
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| sdague | lifeless: it seems that if I turn things into fixtures, instead of inline setup, memory is never given back | 11:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tempest: Removes unused function from javelin https://review.openstack.org/154486 | 11:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tempest: Change some small compute clients to return one value and update tests https://review.openstack.org/154613 | 12:00 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack-dev/devstack change: https://review.openstack.org/153164 failed gate-grenade-dsvm-ironic-sideways in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 13:18 |
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| zhhuabj | hello, all | 13:26 |
| zhhuabj | a question | 13:26 |
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| zhhuabj | just now I was check why functional test still fail, I found that's because devstack doesn't configure 'IPSEC_PACKAGE=strongswan' to install strongswan package in testing node. | 13:27 |
| zhhuabj | can anyone tell me how I should deal with this kind of case ? | 13:29 |
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| sdague | jamielennox / morganfainberg: can you take a look at this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155360/3 I'm kind of confused why a bunch of ironic specific code needs to be put in here | 13:57 |
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| morganfainberg | sdague: that looks incorrect, it appears to be using the old non-auth plugin form of configuring auth_token | 14:08 |
| morganfainberg | sdague: I'm looking at the two bugs still though. Trying to see what is up. | 14:08 |
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| morganfainberg | sdague: it might be an incorrect version of keystone middleware installed. | 14:09 |
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| morganfainberg | sdague: the new form of config for auth_token is also undocumented. Afaict. jamielennox we need to fix the documentation. | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Kranz proposed openstack/tempest: Fix left-over client call in stress test to receive one value https://review.openstack.org/156226 | 14:20 |
| morganfainberg | sdague: I *think* the issue here is ironic is internally reusing values from the auth_token section and has not been updated | 14:20 |
| morganfainberg | sdague: so it is not using the new forms for interacting with keystoneclient internally. So the solution that is being proposed is changing devstack vs fixing ironic. - the bug was marked as won't fix in ironic. | 14:22 |
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| morganfainberg | sdague: so the fix proposed could/can work, but is undoing work jamielennox did. The real issue is ironic is relying on config values from auth_token for things other than auth_token (which is what the other bug referenced was indicating was occurring in heat) | 14:23 |
| morganfainberg | adam_g: ^^ cc | 14:24 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/122119 failed gate-nova-python27 in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 14:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/tempest: Apply T108 rule to all service clients https://review.openstack.org/156125 | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | David Kranz proposed openstack/tempest: Change two-value client methods to use ResponseBodyData https://review.openstack.org/156234 | 14:39 |
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| adam_g | morganfainberg, yeah, i noticed that the other week and was trying to get some feedback from soemone about it. i think there is an ironic bug somewhere. one min | 17:22 |
| morganfainberg | adam_g, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1418341 | 17:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1418341 in devstack "keystone_authtoken configuration error in ironic.conf from devstack" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Yuki Nishiwaki (uckey-1067) | 17:23 |
| morganfainberg | adam_g i think | 17:23 |
| adam_g | morganfainberg, there was a similar existing heat bug. trying to find it | 17:23 |
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| morganfainberg | bug #1300246 | 17:26 |
| openstack | bug 1300246 in heat "Possible confusion between auth_uri and auth_port" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300246 - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 17:26 |
| morganfainberg | ? | 17:26 |
| adam_g | morganfainberg, yah! | 17:26 |
| adam_g | morganfainberg, from what i can read, its wrong for heat/ironic to be touching those auth_token config settings directly? | 17:27 |
| morganfainberg | yeah | 17:27 |
| morganfainberg | basically they're using the same options for their own internal stuff | 17:27 |
| morganfainberg | meaning that they can't work w/o middleware, and if middleware ever changes they can't work | 17:28 |
| adam_g | morganfainberg, the same is true here, no? https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ironic/tree/ironic/common/keystone.py#n67 | 17:29 |
| morganfainberg | yeah that is the root of the proposed fix for #1418341 | 17:29 |
| morganfainberg | the proposed fix for but #1413841 is fix devstack, which is probably the wrong approach | 17:30 |
| adam_g | morganfainberg, yeah | 17:30 |
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| adam_g | morganfainberg, is there an alternative way of creating a client w/o references to the auth_token config options somewhere? | 17:31 |
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| morganfainberg | adam_g, have your own config for your internal use. i know 2 places in the config for the same data, sucks | 17:31 |
| morganfainberg | but - it is the right approach | 17:32 |
| morganfainberg | because the ironic service user *might* be different from the validator service user | 17:32 |
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| jogo | ttx: where was the stable-maint thread? I didn't see it on the dev ML | 17:39 |
| jogo | ttx: as for best format, that is a good question. maybe sdague has an idea or two | 17:39 |
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| adam_g | morganfainberg, 'the code internal to ironic is not conforming with the new auth-plugin form of interacting with keystone client' is this new form documented somewhere? that was as far as i got when i was looking at fixing in ironic proper | 17:42 |
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| adam_g | jogo, what was the stable branch post-mortem etherpad that i saw mentioned? i was out all last week | 17:45 |
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| jogo | adam_g: heh that was a massive break last week | 17:53 |
| jogo | adam_g: its all resolved now | 17:53 |
| jogo | adam_g: and we landed the patch to cap stable/juno deps | 17:53 |
| adam_g | jogo, im cathcing up on mail now, reading your rage post in 'juno is flubar in the gate' | 17:54 |
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| jogo | adam_g: yeah I was/am pretty frustrated | 17:56 |
| jogo | adam_g: see the project meeting from last week though | 17:56 |
| jogo | sounds like stable maint is willing to step up | 17:57 |
| jogo | just not sure which ML that ttx sent that out on | 17:57 |
| adam_g | jogo, yeah, i managed to read meeting logs on my flight | 17:57 |
| jogo | nice | 17:58 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/requirements change: https://review.openstack.org/156239 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1373513 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1348204 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1421895 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1352498 | 18:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1373513 in Cinder "Lvm hang during tempest tests" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to John Griffith (john-griffith) | 18:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1348204 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_encrypted_cinder_volumes_cryptsetup times out waiting for volume to be available" [High,Confirmed] | 18:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1421895 in Cinder "test_encrypted_cinder_volumes_luks fails with "Volume is still attached, detach volume first."" [High,Confirmed] | 18:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1352498 in Cinder "Tempest fails spectacularly with "VolumeType c39f18bf-2408-4377-98f6-ef2839d6f70e deletion failed, VolumeType in use."" [Undecided,New] | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/devstack: Revert "Remove NoVNC from the default enabled services" https://review.openstack.org/155472 | 18:12 |
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| morganfainberg | adam_g, it is documented in keystoneclient, but I've found a nice slew of issues around our documentation | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | adam_g, that i'm now chasing people down about so we can fix it | 18:25 |
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| morganfainberg | adam_g, jamielennox is someone i'll want to get looped in on those two bugs. | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | adam_g, (but he's asleep now iirc) | 18:25 |
| pc_m | We're hitting an issue with function tests, anyone around that can provide some guidance? | 18:28 |
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| lifeless | sdague: that seems wrong; they are certainly designed to free ram (and be freed themselves when tests finish) | 18:31 |
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| apevec | morganfainberg, your last comment in 155360 "The documentation here: has most of what you would need" - link missing after : ? | 19:36 |
| morganfainberg | apevec, did that link not stick? | 19:36 |
| morganfainberg | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-keystoneclient/api/keystoneclient.html#module-keystoneclient.session | 19:36 |
| apevec | doesn't show up for me at least | 19:36 |
| apevec | anti-spam in gerrit? | 19:37 |
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| adam_g | morganfainberg, so is session based setup the preferred way now? i put up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156344/ to migrate ironic away from the middlewarez config, but would rather just migrate away from direct Client setup if thats better | 19:47 |
| morganfainberg | adam_g, yes | 19:47 |
| morganfainberg | the session work is the right way. | 19:48 |
| adam_g | 10-4 | 19:48 |
| morganfainberg | adam_g, bug jamielennox for some more directed advice here | 19:48 |
| morganfainberg | adam_g, i am also feeling the fact i haven't had food or coffee yet today | 19:48 |
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| adam_g | morganfainberg, no worries, i think he's adapted shade to use session stuff already | 19:50 |
| morganfainberg | iirc he has | 19:50 |
| hogepodge | trying to run pep8 tests against tempest. Does it always take forever to install dependencies? | 19:51 |
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| jogo | hogepodge: https://www.berrange.com/posts/2014/11/14/faster-rebuilds-for-python-virtualenv-trees/ may help | 19:57 |
| hogepodge | Thanks jogo | 19:58 |
| hogepodge | Guess I have to wait for the initial build to finish first. | 19:58 |
| jogo | hogepodge: that should help the general case about taking for ever to rebuild envs | 19:58 |
| hogepodge | I started the job over 10 minutes ago, though. Resource constrained? something else? | 19:58 |
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| jogo | hogepodge: you can check tox's running log file | 20:16 |
| jogo | to see what is going on | 20:16 |
| jogo | AFAIK .tox/pep8/logs or something | 20:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Virtual environment groundwork https://review.openstack.org/151513 | 20:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Build wheel cache for venvs https://review.openstack.org/156356 | 20:31 |
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| dtroyer | sdague: ^^^ those include the base server venv build bits; I'm leaving the client stuff out for now, it was more useful in debugging than anything else… | 20:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/devstack: XenAPI: Move some boot-time functions to install-time https://review.openstack.org/154397 | 21:49 |
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| sdague | lifeless: yeh, I screwed up my first patch, it actually seems like it's doing the right thing now | 21:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/devstack: XenAPI: Move where os-vpx is set https://review.openstack.org/155266 | 22:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Add admin role back to ceilometer service user https://review.openstack.org/156390 | 22:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Add admin role back to ceilometer service user https://review.openstack.org/156390 | 22:10 |
| sdague | hey, so why are all the projects adding admin roles back? | 22:11 |
| sdague | because if we need to revert jamielennox|away's patch, we should probably just do that | 22:11 |
| sdague | instead of having every project change it one at a time | 22:11 |
| sdague | dtroyer: you aware with why that seemed to be an issue? | 22:12 |
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| jamielennox | sdague: I'd prefer this to be an excercise in figuring out why all these services really require the admin role on what is supposed to be a token validation account | 22:15 |
| jamielennox | ideally i'd like the first step in all these patches to be -1 "Why do you need the admin role" | 22:15 |
| cdent | sdague: I think the patch had good intent | 22:15 |
| cdent | and I think it is probably best that the fixes be added back in piecemeal | 22:15 |
| cdent | that way any project that doesn't actually need the admin role won't have it | 22:16 |
| cdent | and any that do will have confirmed it | 22:16 |
| sdague | cdent so we've merge for ironic and trove already | 22:16 |
| cdent | in the ceilo case it is pretty clear: talking to keystone to get endpoints for discovery, which is an admin thing, fair enough | 22:16 |
| jamielennox | cdent: why aren't they using them from the token? | 22:17 |
| sdague | ... why is getting endpoints an admin activity? | 22:17 |
| cdent | well I'm mostly talking out my ass: connecting the failure with the solution but not really understanding the details: | 22:17 |
| sdague | jamielennox / morganfainberg: listing endpoints is an admin call? | 22:18 |
| jamielennox | so it was my understanding that trove proposed to put back the admin role - then realized that it didn't need that | 22:18 |
| cdent | so, for example, I don't understand your question jamielennox ? | 22:18 |
| sdague | jamielennox: they got all grumpy because their test systems failed after your patch | 22:18 |
| jamielennox | cdent: so the service would get a catalog when it got a token - i'm not sure why they would need another call to list endpoints | 22:19 |
| jamielennox | sdague: :) i saw | 22:19 |
| cdent | here's the trace jamielennox, it says "admin_required" right there at the start: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1422488 | 22:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1422488 in Ceilometer "errors in central agent devstack" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Chris Dent (chdent) | 22:19 |
| jamielennox | sdague: but i don't think that's a devstack issue - they just expected the environment to be setup differently to what is 'correct' | 22:19 |
| cdent | endpoints get listed with every polling cycle | 22:19 |
| cdent | (so as to stay up to date) | 22:20 |
| sdague | jamielennox: ok, so maybe we should have an ML thread on this, as there seems to be a bunch of confusion | 22:20 |
| sdague | cdent: ceilometer is doing tenant list? | 22:21 |
| sdague | that actually seems... odd | 22:21 |
| cdent | why so? | 22:21 |
| jamielennox | cdent: so i've never gotten far into ceilometer, why would they care about tenants and endpoints? | 22:21 |
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| cdent | that trace is from the central-agent: it does all kinds polling of other services (nova, neutron, cinder, glance etc) to dig out metrics | 22:22 |
| cdent | to do that it needs to have a concept of a "resource" | 22:22 |
| cdent | a resource is a thing which is part of a project, tenant, user | 22:22 |
| openstackgerrit | David Kranz proposed openstack/tempest: Change servers client to return one value and update tests https://review.openstack.org/156378 | 22:23 |
| jamielennox | so at least from a keystone perspective there's no metrics that can be gained from the API in that way - and i wouldn't have thought so from the other services | 22:23 |
| cdent | one sec | 22:23 |
| cdent | (I'm trying to bring myself up to speed so I can answer your question a bit more effectively) | 22:23 |
| jamielennox | sdague: to answer the question from before - i think initially everyone went to heavy with the admin_required rules, and i'm trying to role that back a little - there's really no reason for anyone but admin to do an endpoint list, the only endpoints that a user should care about come from there service catalog | 22:24 |
| sdague | I guess I'm just confused by the endpoint bit being admin only | 22:25 |
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| sdague | we verbosely stick it in every token, but don't let users ask for it on demand? | 22:26 |
| sdague | that... seems weird | 22:26 |
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| jamielennox | sdague: asking keystone for /endpoints would be asking for all endpoints configured - not just the ones that user has access to | 22:28 |
| cdent | jamielennox: okay, I've figured it out. There are two plugin types which will query Keystone one for Tenants one for Endpoints. These are base classes that are to be used by plugins. | 22:29 |
| jamielennox | sdague: asking for /catalog would give them the endpoints they have access to, and that shouldn't be an admin action | 22:29 |
| cdent | They are, for reasons unclear, declared as something useful in setup.cfg, so get turned on when the central-agent starts up | 22:29 |
| cdent | so I _think_ it should be possible to do it the way you made it | 22:29 |
| sdague | jamielennox: ok, that's interesting, I guess I'd have expected it would be the same resource with different results based on auth | 22:30 |
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| jamielennox | cdent: so any idea what they are doing with that list? | 22:31 |
| jamielennox | sdague: i think this was the initial intent of seperating the admin and public interfaces, combining them back again results in exposing some admin restricted apis | 22:32 |
| cdent | in the ceilo core itself, nothing | 22:32 |
| cdent | actually that's not true | 22:33 |
| * cdent digs more | 22:33 | |
| cdent | ugh, what a great way to make code completely unreadable... | 22:34 |
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| cdent | it's used for polling swift, neutron floating ip information, something from glance, and kwapi information | 22:35 |
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| cdent | jamielennox: here's part of it for swift: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/objectstore/swift.py#L65 | 22:36 |
| cdent | one of the origination commits is: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/commit/87afc5ada176d2062bc0cc81c248d6813941a7d4 | 22:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed openstack/tempest: Fix compute baremetal_nodes API schema https://review.openstack.org/156407 | 22:37 |
| cdent | keystone is used as the source of information that allows the agent to do partitioning | 22:38 |
| cdent | (so multiple agents can be run) | 22:38 |
| cdent | here's the other relevant one jamielennox: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/commit/b6e1c7e5dcb405f01fd5160d94aecf0249d8ad59 | 22:40 |
| cdent | Is there some way to do that information gathering that doesn't require admin? | 22:40 |
| jamielennox | cdent: so that swift one is the service catalog though, not an endpoint list | 22:40 |
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| cdent | jamielennox: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/network/floatingip.py#L32 | 22:42 |
| cdent | I'm no expert on these sections of the code. I do remember there being quite a lot of discussion with someone, I don't know who, in keystone-land, about it. | 22:43 |
| sdague | right, so that action definitely needs ALL THE PERMISSIONS | 22:44 |
| sdague | at least in the current policy model | 22:44 |
| jamielennox | yep, if you need to start doing things across multiple projects, like list all available floating ips then you are going to need admin | 22:45 |
| sdague | which is a little unfortunate, also, unfortunate that it's a poll | 22:45 |
| cdent | sdague: you seem my message to os-operators earlier today? | 22:45 |
| sdague | .... apparently not | 22:45 |
| jamielennox | ideally i'd like to come up with a seperation between these users, that maybe the token user and the 'god' user are different | 22:46 |
| cdent | trying to start the ball rolling on getting projects to own notifications and kill polling | 22:46 |
| cdent | but it's just a hint so as not to throw the thread off (the one about ceilo sucking) | 22:46 |
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| sdague | jamielennox: so in kilo nova is breaking up most of the policy to be resource + verb, so you will be able to have a read only admin kind of role | 22:47 |
| sdague | but I still think the right action is not hitting the API at all for this, and doing it via notifications | 22:47 |
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| sdague | cdent: see it now, nice :) | 22:48 |
| jamielennox | sdague: keystone is working on supporting that better as well, we want to go centralized policy in keystone and we are talking about roles being a combination of capabilities with capabilities getting closer and closer to a resource+verb | 22:48 |
| cdent | sdague: I agree, but when I've talked about it with folk before there's the whole thing of "well, projects don't want to do that" | 22:48 |
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| sdague | so I think that once, a couple of projects didn't want notifications | 22:49 |
| cdent | and I'm all: nnnnnnngggggghhhh! | 22:49 |
| jamielennox | sdague: so i expect i'm going to cause similar breakages when i can get: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154388/ fixed | 22:49 |
| sdague | and... honestly, we need to move past that, and if 80% of the projects do want sane notifications, lets just take that as a win | 22:50 |
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| cdent | jamielennox: breaking stuff is the best way to move stuff forward. bring on the breakage! | 22:50 |
| sdague | jamielennox: so I feel like you need to give some more heads up on "we're going to break all the things" on the ML at least | 22:50 |
| jamielennox | cdent: agreed - i just need to be a bit more vocal about it | 22:50 |
| jamielennox | sdague: yep | 22:50 |
| sdague | because there was enough blow back from the last set of changes, I'm not eager to have to field it on that one | 22:50 |
| jamielennox | sdague: i'm a while of getting that past the gate, at the moment i'm mostly just interested in where things do break | 22:51 |
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| sdague | ok | 22:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Create service definition for nova-serialproxy https://review.openstack.org/138956 | 22:52 |
| cdent | sdague: any advice on how to push the kill polling plan? | 22:52 |
| sdague | what's the status of the notification schema thing people were running at? | 22:53 |
| sdague | I think you have to work up and get that done first. Honestly, if we had a list of what notifications are wanted out of nova, I'd be happy to have a go of getting those all in in Liberty. | 22:54 |
| cdent | It's a bit vague. There are some RAX people who are trying to formalize the existing notifications and I've been trying to track that, but it is hard to find them. Sandy Walsh and I have a play date to talk but it keeps getting pushed off. | 22:56 |
| cdent | I think that attaching the work to something concrete (move all of X) is like the best way to make it visible and actionable. | 22:56 |
| cdent | I also think that doing it on stuff that already exists is insufficiently exciting to keep people engaged | 22:57 |
| cdent | so yeah, if we could pick some subsection of the nova stuff, and a) formalize it b) notify it that would probably be a good concrete thing | 22:57 |
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| sdague | yeh, realistically if you could figure out all the resources that are needed to remove nova pollsters entirely, we could run at it early in L | 22:59 |
| sdague | and I think lots of people would be happy about that | 22:59 |
| sdague | because a bunch of this polling ends up being really innefficient | 22:59 |
| cdent | that would be pretty awesome | 22:59 |
| cdent | yes | 23:00 |
| cdent | I'll stick it on my list and get with eoghan about it. This was where I've been planning to stick my energy all along but then I fell down the hole that led to the creation of gabbi. | 23:00 |
| cdent | and now have to pay the price of making a useful tool: use it | 23:00 |
| sdague | ok, so lets call that a plan then. I'll put the analysis for that on your plate to have ready by the time kilo releases, then will look at it around then | 23:00 |
| cdent | that seems a good plan | 23:01 |
| sdague | \o/ | 23:01 |
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| cdent | and with that bit of goodness, I'm calling it a much too late night | 23:01 |
| cdent | see you all tomorrow | 23:01 |
| sdague | have a good one | 23:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed openstack/tempest: Skip new instance port admin state test for ironic https://review.openstack.org/156415 | 23:17 |
| adam_g | sdague, FYI stable/juno sideways job needs this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156410/ assuming a happy check | 23:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack-dev/devstack: elasticsearch event support in ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/155104 | 23:25 |
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| tonyb | Anychance I can get a devstack-core to look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138956/ | 23:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Don't create stack-volume-default in lib/cinder https://review.openstack.org/156420 | 23:57 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Don't create stack-volume-default in lib/cinder https://review.openstack.org/156420 | 23:58 |
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