Thursday, 2015-05-07

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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add errexit to setup & cleanup functions  https://review.openstack.org/17701700:14
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Return command status in tsfilter  https://review.openstack.org/17890500:14
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1451506 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "spawn failed with "libvirtError: internal error: received hangup / error event on socket" in the gate" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:48
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samueldmqmtreinish, do you guys have a list of things to get done in L ? (maybe an etherpad)01:51
samueldmqmtreinish, I'd like to take a look at your plans to L01:52
mtreinishsamueldmq: not really, I didn't do anything like that for Kilo, or Juno. But I was thinking about starting to do it for L01:54
mtreinishI'll probably work on something coming out of summit01:54
samueldmqmtreinish, nice, that would contain things you will be discussing at the summit01:55
samueldmqmtreinish, do we have working sessions  (or something else) specifc for #qa ?01:55
mtreinishsamueldmq: here's our etherpad for brainstorming: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-qa-summit-topics01:56
mtreinishI was hoping to lock things down at tomorrow's QA meeting01:56
mtreinishif there's something you were hoping to see, feel free to throw it on there01:56
samueldmqmtreinish, k, I will take a look at that list, and if I have interesting ideas I will propose01:57
samueldmqmtreinish, tomorrow meeting ? what time ?01:57
mtreinishcool, thanks01:57
mtreinishoh, 1700 UTC01:57
mtreinishsamueldmq: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting01:58
samueldmqmtreinish, nice, will be there :)01:58
mtreinishsamueldmq: cool01:58
mtreinishanyway time for me to call it a night01:58
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samueldmqmtreinish, k see you thanks01:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for libvirt cannot recv data bug 1252947  https://review.openstack.org/18078702:13
openstackbug 1252947 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirtError: Cannot recv data: Connection reset by peer" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125294702:13
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/tempest: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/17685102:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/devstack: Fix negated services with common prefix  https://review.openstack.org/17359302:48
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openstackgerritImran Hayder Malik proposed openstack/tempest: Fix missing whitespace in conf help There is a missing whitespace between 'the' and 'admin' so in tempest.conf it turns out to be theadmin. Fix applied to config.py.  https://review.openstack.org/18086505:17
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openstackgerritPeter Sabaini proposed openstack/tempest: Fix server creation n test_large_ops  https://review.openstack.org/18009307:10
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-dev/grenade: wip: debugging worlddump  https://review.openstack.org/18066610:50
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-dev/grenade: DNM: fail to trigger world dump case  https://review.openstack.org/18066710:50
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-dev/grenade: disable errexit when inside EXIT trap  https://review.openstack.org/18093610:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/grenade: fix die functions  https://review.openstack.org/18066411:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/grenade: don't trace function definitions  https://review.openstack.org/18066511:37
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dkranzboris-42: ping12:25
dkranzboris-42: I was going to submit a qa spec for robust cleanup in tempest. Seems like rally has similar issues and I wanted to see if any work has been done in rally.12:25
openstackgerritRohan Kanade proposed openstack/tempest: Adds Database Instance/Actions API Tests  https://review.openstack.org/18048912:26
dkranzyfried__: ^^^12:26
miquidtroyer: hi , i contribute to the poppy openstack project, my colleages there gave me your name to consult on a question12:26
miquii was wondering how would one go about adding a new API to devstack....12:26
yfried__dkranz: robust cleanup?12:27
yfried__dkranz: you mean cleanup resource leakage?12:27
dkranzyfried__: yes, make sure that all resources allocated by tempest can be cleaned up regardless of any tempest failures12:27
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dkranzyfried__: including tempest crashing12:27
yfried__dkranz: we have a spec under review for that12:27
dkranzyfried__: can you point?12:27
yfried__dkranz: it's not covering tempest related resources, though12:28
dkranzyfried__: but rally can run tempest, no?12:28
dkranzyfried__: can you point at the spec?12:28
yfried__dkranz: sure. but the main idea is  - name all resources as "rally_<resource>_XYZ" and hunt for these names instead of track resources like tempest does on addcleanup12:29
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dkranzyfried__: I don't think that is good enough. My idea is more robust I think.12:29
yfried__dkranz: it runs tempest but the spec doesn't cover resource created by tempest. we should take a look12:29
dkranzyfried__: url for spec?12:29
dtroyermiqui: by API I'm guessing you mean project, such as poppy?12:30
yfried__dkranz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172967/12:30
dkranzyfried__: my basic idea is to modify the client so that all allocations/deallocations are recorded in a database12:30
miquidtroyer: yes12:30
boris-42dkranz: in meeting let's talk about this in 30 min?12:30
miquidtroyer: we would like to include poppy rest api in devstack...12:30
dkranzboris-42: sorry, I have a meeting then :)12:30
dtroyerDevStack has support for external plugins where it can call out to another repo to do the setup.12:30
dkranzboris-42: I will make some comments in your spec12:30
yfried__dkranz: this could work for tempest, but rally uses native clients instead of tempest12:31
yfried__'s12:31
dkranzyfried__: it does not have to12:31
dkranzyfried__: this was one of the reasons we switched everything in tempest to use the tempest client12:31
dkranzyfried__: there are qa needs that cannot be met with official clients, and they are not going to change12:32
dtroyermiqui: I know manila and gnocchi both do this so there are two working examples.  there is basic documentation at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/plugins.html12:32
dkranzyfried__: if we put this functionality in clients in tempest lib they could be more widely used12:32
dtroyerthere are other projects too, the gluster filesystem support uses a stand-alone repo to do the same thing (it is not part of any other project)12:32
dkranzyfried__: but IMO there is no way to really have robust cleanup without control point in the client12:32
yfried__dkranz: you're gonna have to convince boris-4212:33
dkranzyfried__: I'm just trying to collaborate12:33
yfried__dkranz: I understand.12:34
miquidtroyer: thanks for the tip.. i'll take a look, is this the right channel for devstack question of this type?12:34
dkranzyfried__: but end up with something that is actually robust in the face of failures. If there is a way to do that when using official clients I would love to hear it.12:34
yfried__dkranz: if tempest takes care of it's own cleanup, then rally doesn't have to...12:34
dtroyermiqui: yes12:35
dkranzyfried__: of course, but rally has exactly the same issue for its own scenarios12:35
yfried__dkranz: I'm not sure if/why using name-conventions doesn't suit this specific need12:35
miquidtroyer: cool.. thanks!12:35
dkranzyfried__: because it assumes the missing resources can be obtained by doing a list operation12:35
miquianybody here installed devstack on fedora 21?12:36
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dkranzyfried__: My proposal allows you to clean up a resource even if its tenant is gone I believe12:36
dkranzyfried__: but I just started thinking about this yesterday so I might be missing something12:37
yfried__dkranz: so does naming12:37
dkranzyfried__: let me read the spec now12:37
yfried__dkranz: neutron net-list will list all networks, regardless of tenants live/dead12:37
dkranzyfried__: the name solution also does not cover the case if there is more than one tempest or rally running in the same cloud12:38
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yfried__dkranz: that's a good point12:39
dtroyermiqui: the gate does it every day, and there are a handful of people who use fedora as their primary development platform, but most of us use trusty…12:39
yfried__dkranz: it can easily be modified to do so12:39
dkranzyfried__: I'm reading spec now12:40
dkranzyfried__: in any event, if just using some name convention works that can be trivially done in tempest as well12:40
yfried__dkranz: please add your comments as well as your alternate way12:41
dkranzyfried__: will do12:41
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miquidtroyer: hmm, k, cuz it should be straight forward from my searches on the net, but  i keep running into problems...12:41
miquiso am wondering if i would have better luck to re-image and try on trusty....12:42
dtroyermiqui: glancing through the last 5 or so merges to devstack, the f21 job failed in three of them so I'm not surprised12:43
miquidtroyer: ahhhhhh ......12:43
sdaguethat f21 failure has been rather persistent on volume tests12:44
yfried__dkranz: also - have tempest clients (service library) fully migrated to tempest-lib?12:44
openstackgerritSergey Slipushenko proposed openstack/tempest: Tool for generation user accounts from spec  https://review.openstack.org/17260512:45
dtroyermiqui: although looking closer the failures were not in stack.sh but tempest tests, mostly ssh timeouts12:45
miqui..thanks...well i'll keep trying...12:45
sdaguedtroyer: yes, every time I've looked at the fedora runs, it's basically "can't put a vm on the network" failures12:46
dkranzyfried__: no, not yet. But I think it is ready.12:46
sdagueso I've stopped paying attention to them, because apparently no one else cares that fedora is massively less reliable at working :)12:46
dtroyersdague: ditto12:47
sdaguehonestly, it's probably worth disabling the job soon, as it's not providing any real information. Maybe something to be discussed at summit.12:47
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-dev/devstack: dump iptables in the worlddump  https://review.openstack.org/18098012:58
sdaguedtroyer: ^^^ would be handy to get to the bottom of some grenade failures that are weird12:59
sdaguewhere a server pings fine then it stops pinging later12:59
sdagueand no API changes were made in between12:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/grenade: disable errexit when inside EXIT trap  https://review.openstack.org/18093613:00
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-dev/devstack: [WIP] Support for Nova rootwrap-daemon  https://review.openstack.org/18099213:38
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dtroyersdague: +A13:55
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sdaguedtroyer: thanks14:03
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack/tempest: Add config option to disable network isolation  https://review.openstack.org/17729314:04
sdagueI fast approved a grenade fix this morning, my caller loop was blocking the actual dump on failures because errexit was still on14:04
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matttjlanoux: ping14:12
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jlanouxmattt: hi14:13
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matttjlanoux: i spoke to you a while back regarding some failures i'm getting when i have run_ssh enabled in tempest.conf, you said you were working on a bp to address that14:15
matttjlanoux: can you point me at the blueprint again if it has not been addressed?14:15
jlanouxmattt: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/ssh-auth-strategy14:16
matttjlanoux: it looks like a subset of tests do not properly associate instances w/ a floating IP, so it's never possible to ssh into them14:16
jlanouxmattt: still WIP14:16
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-dev/devstack: [WIP] Support for Nova rootwrap-daemon  https://review.openstack.org/18099214:23
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matttjlanoux: ok, thanks !14:32
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openstackgerritDmitry Ratushnyy proposed openstack/tempest: Implementation of Scenario tests for port-security ML2 extension  https://review.openstack.org/17813714:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/devstack: dump iptables in the worlddump  https://review.openstack.org/18098014:52
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chrome0mtreinish: heya, please excuse the noob Q -- what do you mean with "check experimental" in  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180093/ ?15:27
mtreinishchrome0: oh, there is a separate experimental queue of jobs which have to be manually triggered15:28
chrome0mtreinish, ah ic, ta15:28
mtreinishI thought that the patch might effect some of the conditions which are only tested on some of those jobs15:28
chrome0heh, cheers15:28
mtreinishalthough looking at it again I'm not sure15:28
openstackgerritDmitry Ratushnyy proposed openstack/tempest: Implementation of Scenario tests for port-security ML2 extension  https://review.openstack.org/17813715:29
chrome0well, never hurts to check15:29
mtreinishyep15:29
mtreinishchrome0: if you're curious the list of jobs is here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n316515:29
chrome0nice!15:30
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-dev/devstack: [WIP] Support for Nova rootwrap-daemon  https://review.openstack.org/18099215:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add context "libvirt" back into query for bug 1451506  https://review.openstack.org/18079316:15
openstackbug 1451506 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "spawn failed with "libvirtError: internal error: received hangup / error event on socket" in the gate" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145150616:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Upgrade to hacking 0.10.x  https://review.openstack.org/17929916:20
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Documentation for single interface Neutron networking with OVS  https://review.openstack.org/16631416:25
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openstackgerritWaldemar Znoinski proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Set datapath to $OVS_DATAPATH_TYPE for bridges  https://review.openstack.org/15988516:28
sdaguemriedem: http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/#1376941 is not looking promissing16:31
mriedemsdague: you know what is?16:34
mriedeme-r links to bugs16:34
mriedemway2go :)16:34
sdagueheh16:34
sdaguemtreinish: did something in tempest merge regarding volumes? or did everything just get horrible?16:35
mtreinishsdague: I don't think I saw anything big volume related land in tempest recently16:36
mtreinishlet me check the log16:36
sdagueso it's just being dangerously close to quota, then a reshuffle?16:36
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mtreinishsdague: nope, nothing corresponding to that spike has landed16:36
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mtreinishsdague: maybe, although I thought we had a pretty large margin. Isn't it like a 20gb vg for cinder and we use 1gb volumes for everything in tempest16:39
clarkb32GB iirc16:39
mtreinishclarkb: in the middle :) http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/devstack-vm-gate.sh#n30416:40
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sdaguemtreinish: so that test is failing all around as well - http://logs.openstack.org/95/180695/11/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/f68a0e9/console.html#_2015-05-07_15_39_17_89316:43
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sdagueoh, never mind, that's dim's rootwrap daemon patch ... which fails on everything16:44
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sslypushenkomtreinish Hi!, Can I ask you for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172605/ ?16:55
dtroyermtreinish: I'm playing 'chicken' with a thunderstorm, power has been on and off and my router's ups is about dead…so I may not make the meeting by the time you get to devstack…noting much to report, sdague probably has more than I do about the wheel fun…16:59
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dtroyers/probably/certainly/16:59
mtreinishdtroyer: hehe ok, no worries16:59
sdagueok17:00
mtreinishsslypushenko: I'll try to take another look later today17:00
sslypushenkoThx17:01
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thingeemtreinish, sdague, jogo this gets rid of those annoying version discovery warnings with cinderclient https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181083/117:16
jogothingee: excellent17:16
jogosdague: btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170608/ the patch that dropped heat, landed 27 hours ago not *2 days* ago17:16
jogothingee: will that version get rolled out to stable/kilo as well?17:17
sdaguejogo: heh17:17
thingeejogo: not making that call, but fine to do so :)17:17
thingeeI'll leave that up to sdague17:17
jogothingee: I think its worth getting in stable/kilo to make the logs less insane17:18
mtreinishjogo: heh, just a loose rounding17:18
jogomtreinish: looks like it17:20
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-dev/devstack: [WIP] Support for Nova rootwrap-daemon  https://review.openstack.org/18099217:28
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openstackgerritImran Hayder Malik proposed openstack/tempest: Fix missing whitespace in conf help There is a missing whitespace between 'the' and 'admin' so in tempest.conf it turns out to be theadmin. Fix applied to config.py.  https://review.openstack.org/18086517:35
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boris-42dkranz: hey hey17:44
boris-42dkranz: around?17:44
dkranzboris-42: yeah, in the qa meeting now17:44
dkranzboris-42: irc, that is17:45
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dkranzboris-42: over in 15min17:45
boris-42dkranz: okay17:45
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dkranzboris-42: THe rally spec has same requirements as I was thinking.17:45
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dkranzboris-42: I was just not sure it could be 100% robust with just name matching from list calls as admin17:46
dkranzboris-42: for every resource type17:46
dkranzboris-42: but I could be wrong17:46
mtreinishdkranz: https://review.openstack.org/171586 seems related to that17:47
mtreinishalthough I really don't have any context on what you're discussing so feel free to ignore17:47
boris-42dkranz: so we have some various criterias17:47
dkranzmtreinish: no, you are right but I was trying to be in the qa meeting :)17:48
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boris-42dkranz: first of all cleanups should work in various keys17:48
boris-42there is admin cleanup (that is used for admin only operations and it's based only on checking name pattern)17:49
boris-42there is users cleanup (where we are listing users resource + name pattern (to not delete non created by Rally resources))17:49
boris-42and we have one more thing, we should be able to run from the same set of users in parallel 2 tasks17:49
boris-42and they should be isolated17:50
boris-42so we will pass part of task_uuid to the name of resources and check this as well17:50
dkranzboris-42: yes, but since tempest can be called by rally, tempest needs to follow the same convention, right?17:50
boris-42+ we have current mechanism in rally that cotnrols speed of deletion and adds retires17:50
boris-42dkranz: so there are 2 ways how Rally works with tempest17:51
boris-421) rally verify command (that just manages tempest) and run it as users are doing17:51
boris-42in such cases we believe that after tests everything will be clean*17:51
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-dev/grenade: clean up upgrade scripts  https://review.openstack.org/17733417:51
boris-422) rally task and sepcial benchmark scenario that runs multple times set of tempest tests17:51
boris-42^ we marked it as not safe for production17:52
boris-42dkranz: ^17:52
boris-42dkranz: so what Rally team would like is to have 2 disaster cleanup command/script in tempest17:52
boris-42that we can run if something went wrong17:52
boris-42and if everything is OK that we know that 100% of created resources were deleted17:53
boris-42that's all*17:53
dkranzboris-42: yes, I agree. But in your first case, if tempest fails, there might be something left behind.17:53
boris-42dkranz: yep so it will be nice if tempest use name patterns17:53
boris-42dkranz: and we will be able to run disaster cleanup script17:53
dkranzboris-42: that was my point. We should collaborate on this.17:53
boris-42dkranz: that will list all resources and do this17:54
boris-42dkranz: agree17:54
boris-42dkranz: actually we can share this script somehow*17:54
boris-42dkranz: because disaster cleanup for both projects is the same17:54
boris-42dkranz: just different name pattern17:54
dkranzboris-42: exactly17:54
dkranzboris-42:  I was about to start a similar spec but checked with you guys first17:55
boris-42dkranz: so it's great that summit is soon17:55
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dkranzboris-42: I suggest we use your spec, but decide if any implementation tasks should be on the tempest side, and/or what convention tempest should follow17:56
dkranzboris-42: it might be nice to put the cleanup code itself in tempest-lib so others could use it as well?17:56
boris-42dkranz: I can't provide the fast reply on this. What I know it should be available in both projects17:58
dkranzboris-42: +117:59
boris-42dkranz: After detailed designed it will be clear what is the best strategy17:59
boris-42dkranz: as I said before disaster cleanup is just one case that we have in Rally17:59
boris-42dkranz: I don't see a full picture yet18:00
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dkranzboris-42: sure, but the most important IMO is that multiple people/processes can be running tempest and rally against a real cloud without disturbing it.18:00
dkranzboris-42: well, rally might disturb it, but resources should not be left behind.18:01
openstackgerritWaldemar Znoinski proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Set datapath to $OVS_DATAPATH_TYPE for bridges  https://review.openstack.org/15988518:01
boris-42dkranz: yep18:02
boris-42dkranz: it's Rally essential task in road map18:02
boris-42dkranz: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16DXpfbqvlzMFaqaXAcJsBzzpowb_XpymaK2aFY2gA2g/edit#gid=018:02
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boris-42dkranz: let's pick some time during summit to dicuss this IRL18:03
dkranzboris-42: sure, I"ll be there all week. Are you having any rally session to discuss this?18:04
boris-42dkranz: yep18:04
boris-42dkranz: part of one of 2 sessions will be related to this question18:05
dkranzboris-42: ok, I am going to try to attend the rally sessions18:05
dkranzboris-42: I hope they do not conflict with qa/infra sessions18:05
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sdaguemtreinish: also, landing this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180964/  to see if it helps on some of the grenade jobs now that we synced the real service stop patch in kilo18:07
mtreinishsdague: done18:08
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dkranzmtreinish: I am fine with the cli removal but noticed two things were added to requirements.txt. What is that about?18:11
dkranzmtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178757/5/requirements.txt18:11
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mtreinishdkranz: oh, those were missing deps we had in tempest18:14
mtreinishthey were getting pulled in by the clients18:14
mtreinishso we never noticed we didn't have them in the requirements list18:14
dkranzmtreinish: ok18:15
mtreinishdid I forget to put that in the commit msg?18:15
mtreinishif so I should respin it to mention that18:15
dkranzmtreinish: yes, else I would not have asked :)18:15
dkranzmtreinish: up to you18:15
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dkranzmtreinish: might as well since it needs a recheck anyway18:16
mtreinishdkranz: yep, one sec I'll add it right now18:17
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack/tempest: Remove CLI testing once and for all  https://review.openstack.org/17875718:20
mtreinishdkranz: ^^^18:20
dkranzmtreinish: ok, I'm ready to +218:20
dkranzmtreinish: good riddance18:20
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dansmithsdague: so, in grenade right now we set the upgrade levels to $(basename devstack)18:43
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sdaguedansmith: in the base code, yes18:44
sdaguedansmith: is there a question?18:45
dansmithsdague: yeah, sorry, trying to figure out the question :D18:45
dansmithgot ahead of myself18:45
sdagueno problem, your statement is correct :)18:45
dansmithhehe18:45
dansmithokay, so what I need to do, is make grenade set it not to kilo but kilo-compat when we're upgrading from kilo,18:46
dansmithso I can do that in the from-kilo script?18:46
dansmitheven though it will override what we have already done, yes?18:47
sdaguedansmith: sorry... what are you trying to do?18:47
dansmithsdague: when we bump an rpc version, as we did in kilo,18:47
dansmithwe need to set the upgrade_levels.compute to something slightly different18:47
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sdagueoh, for the partial job?18:48
dansmithnot kilo, but (actually) liberty-compat18:48
dansmithyes18:48
sdagueyeh, that sounds right18:48
dansmithokay18:48
sdagueit should be in the from-kilo script ... conditionally on the cpu still running. How did we do the transition before?18:48
sdaguewe've rolled this across a release boundary in the past18:49
dansmithit's so confusing, I need to figure out what exactly I need to set and on which side18:49
dansmiththe last time we did a bump was havana18:49
dansmithpresumably grenade looked quite different then18:49
sdaguewell, the scripts sat at the top level18:50
dansmithlet me get food so I can actually think this through18:50
sdagueoh... you know what18:50
dansmithwhat18:50
sdagueI bet this is set in devstack gate18:50
dansmitheh?18:51
dansmithwe set it in grenade, but you think the old version is set by d-g?18:51
dansmith./projects/60_nova/upgrade.sh:    iniset $NOVA_CONF upgrade_levels compute $(basename $BASE_DEVSTACK_BRANCH)18:51
dansmiththat's us setting it to kilo when we're upgrading from kilo to master right now, right?18:52
dansmithsetting it for the new code18:52
sdagueyes18:52
sdagueso the names have changed now?18:52
sdaguekilo-compat instead of kilo ?18:52
dansmithI would expect that means that d-g doesn't set it at all18:52
sdagueyeh, it doesn't18:52
dansmithsdague: it's different when we do a major bump18:52
dansmiththe -compat only happens on a major bump18:53
sdagueok... but is kilo not still a thing?18:53
dansmithand last time we did that was havana->icehouse18:53
dansmithkilo is, but it's not the thing we want18:53
sdaguebecause?18:53
sdaguethis just seems kind of complicated to explain to ops.18:53
dansmithwell, I should say: it's not how we did it last time18:53
dansmithit's very complicated18:53
dansmithwhich is why I'm not even sure which way to do this18:53
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dansmithI wonder if it's that way for h->i because we did that one late and backported18:54
sdague"oh, so I know you all got used to using the release name for the rpc bit, but this time, you should use this different thing instead"18:54
dansmithwell,18:54
dansmithheh18:54
dansmithit's not always the release name either18:54
dansmithsometimes it's actually a version18:54
sdagueo_O18:54
dansmithjust let me get food18:55
dansmithgo do something else and I'll come back with coherent arguments18:55
sdague:)18:55
dansmithor a bigger stick18:55
dansmith:)18:55
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Support for running Nova with oslo.rootwrap daemon  https://review.openstack.org/18099218:58
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openstackrecheckopenstack-dev/devstack change: https://review.openstack.org/180549 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145150619:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1451506 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "spawn failed with "libvirtError: internal error: received hangup / error event on socket" in the gate" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:00
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sdaguelifeless: ok, moving cffi discussion here because there is a different meeting going on there19:08
lifelessyah sure19:09
sdagueso the cffi maintainers completely don't understand the fail story that currently exists?19:09
lifelesshttps://bitbucket.org/cffi/cffi/issue/190/cffi-assumes-write-access-to-installed19:09
lifelessweep19:09
clarkbcomputers are hard19:13
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lifelessso at the risk of being bitter19:14
lifelessauthor who has bad idea doesn't fully comprehend badness and knock-on badness19:15
sdagueright, so this enforces my feeling that cffi is fundamentally crazy pants :)19:15
mtreinishsigh, did they really suggest we should just monkey patch to fix it19:16
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lifelessmtreinish: they did19:19
lifelesshtf you monkeypatch setup_requires triggered code in a release of a third party library I have NFI.19:20
lifelessbut they did19:20
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sdaguelifeless: do you know anyone that has pull with this maintainer?19:20
clarkblifeless: you monkey patch pip to monkey patch setup.py before invoking setup()19:21
clarkblifeless: monkeys the whole way down19:21
sdaguebecause this seems like with this view of the world, cffi is basically going to always be a train wreck for us19:21
sdaguebecause the author has completely not anticipated the idea of installing software not in a venv19:21
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clarkbfwiw even in a venv this is a problem if you share venvs across users19:22
clarkbinfra does this for many things like zuul-cloner19:22
sdagueclarkb: sure, it could be19:22
lifelesssdague: I don't know, no.19:22
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lifelesssdague: its worse than that I think; the python cache is defined as being a cache, graceful degradation. There's a huge semantic mismatch there.19:23
sdaguedoes dstuft?19:23
sdaguemaybe, I'll jump this to a channel he's in19:23
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mriedemmtreinish: melwitt started noticing these recently, have you seen them? http://logs.openstack.org/27/178827/6/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/73dd93c/console.html#_2015-05-07_18_57_17_79419:35
mriedemmestery: ^19:35
mriedemmelwitt: it goes back further than 5/419:36
mriedemat least 4/2819:36
mesterymriedem: That looks bad, we saw a spike in the full job yesterday but it settled down overnight.19:36
mtreinishmriedem: I don't think I have seen that particular failure before19:37
mriedemhttp://goo.gl/sgKnRw19:38
mriedemexcluding periodic and experimental quesus19:38
mriedem*queues19:38
mtreinishmriedem: man tracing through that code talk about some weird indents19:39
melwittmriedem: is that just the "all time" cutoff or?19:40
mriedem10 days19:40
mriedemso probably19:40
mtreinishmriedem: there's not much to go on though, just that tempest couldn't ping the guest after 2 min of trying 1 ping per sec19:41
mtreinishwhich feels like it would be mestery's fault :)19:41
melwitton the surface it looks like this has happened before https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/140329119:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1403291 in neutron "VM's fail to receive DHCPOFFER messages" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)19:41
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mtreinishmelwitt: hmm, interesting. Unfortunately not that surprising though19:43
mtreinishalthough it was definitely more severe before19:43
melwittyeah19:44
melwittthough it does mention the e-r query for that old bug was too broad, so it's probably something different19:45
mriedemmelwitt: mtreinish: there is still an e-r query up for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/140329119:45
openstackLaunchpad bug 1403291 in neutron "VM's fail to receive DHCPOFFER messages" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)19:45
mriedembut the signature is slightly different19:45
mriedemwe should just update that19:45
mtreinishmelwitt: yeah, but this error, like the failed to ssh one is going to be one of those catch alls19:45
mriedem(check_public_network_connectivity OR check_vm_connectivity)19:45
mtreinishbecause it's basically the first indication that things fell on their face19:46
melwittmtreinish: ah, okay19:46
dansmithsdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181127/19:46
dansmithsdague: I think that's going to be right19:46
dansmithsdague: I think we did it differently before because we backported the bump after the release, which means 'havana' already meant something other than 3.0 and we didn't want to change it19:46
mtreinishnot saying that's how it should be, but when a guest fails to get an ip properly from neutron until we try to do something with it we'll have no idea19:47
sdagueyeh, that make sense19:47
melwittmriedem: okay, I can update that query then19:47
sdaguedansmith: so if we are going to the trouble of making a SpawnFixture, can we put a test on? And it should probably be called SpawnNoopFixture or something to be extra clear what it does19:49
dansmithsdague: meaning test the fixture?19:49
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dansmithSynchronousSpawnFixture would be appropriate I think19:50
openstackgerritAdolfo Duarte proposed openstack/tempest: Tests covering FIP in dvr multinode This is a collection of tests which validate floating ip functionality in a multinode dvr devstack environment  https://review.openstack.org/17734519:51
sdaguedansmith: yeh the test fixture, the bottom of your stack that this is in19:51
dansmithsdague: right, I knew what you were referencing.. just wanted to make sure "put a test on it" meant "write a test for it"19:52
sdaguedansmith: yes, sorry :)19:52
dansmithI didn't know we had tests for things like this,19:53
dansmithand also,19:53
sdaguetest_fixtures.py19:53
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dansmithI live in portlandia, so when I first read that, I read it as "put a bird on it"19:53
sdagueheh19:53
sdaguewe'll have to send you to a tiny house19:53
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dansmithheh19:53
sdaguehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6pj3jVgeh819:53
dansmithyeah, 'cause that's a thing I'd like19:54
sdagueheh19:54
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dansmithsdague: you know those are real things right?19:54
sdagueyes, I do19:54
sdaguewe have those folks out here as well19:54
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Set live_migrate_paused_instances=True in tempest.conf  https://review.openstack.org/17232619:54
mriedemmtreinish: sdague: want to re-ack that ^19:54
melwittput a bird on it19:54
mriedemi had to remove the depends-on19:54
sdague+219:55
mtreinishmriedem: +A19:55
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mriedemso there is some kind of child psychology issue in these tiny house people yes?19:56
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dansmithmriedem: just issues in general20:28
dansmithmriedem: I have family members that live like this, except they can't afford the actual tiny house part20:28
dansmithso I know.20:28
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mriedemso it's like, poor irony?20:29
mriedemi was living in a box before it was cool20:29
dansmithheh20:29
dansmithyeah20:29
mriedemgd portland20:29
dansmithbut they want to live in the smallest possible space,20:29
dansmiththey just can't afford the nice tiny space20:29
mriedemthat's just unamerican20:29
dansmithyep20:29
clarkbhave you been to portland?20:31
clarkbalso its nice today I should be unamerican outside20:31
daniel3_Only thing good about Poland is the sausage.20:32
mriedemyeah remember we all jammed into that thai place?20:32
daniel3_;)20:32
mriedemw/ no AC20:32
daniel3_That really came out wrong, not intended.  Food wise!20:32
mriedemtechnically beaverton...20:33
dansmithmriedem: hillsboro actually20:33
mriedemoh yeah20:33
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mriedemintelton20:34
dansmithto be fair,20:34
dansmithyou guys were here at like the hottest possible time20:34
dansmiththat place doesn't need AC every other time of year except that one week20:34
clarkbdansmith you should drive downtown today just to see how nice it is to work from home during presidential visits20:34
dansmithclarkb: I think I'll sit here and imagine, but thanks20:34
mriedemi prefer to eat spicy thai shoulder-to-shoulder with 20 other sweaty dudes20:35
dansmithheh20:35
dansmithall the folks that got spicy stuff that day were crazy20:35
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openstackrecheckopenstack/nova change: https://review.openstack.org/176395 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/128352220:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1283522 in neutron "DB lock timeout errors with parallel operations" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)20:36
mriedemdansmith: you can't go to a thai place and not get spicy20:38
mriedemtha'ts the point20:38
dansmithmriedem: when it's 100F outside and there's no AC, you sure as hell can20:38
mriedemwe should have gone to the snow cone restaurant20:38
mriedemcold stone20:39
dansmithheh20:39
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mriedemspeak of the devil, http://logs.openstack.org/95/176395/1/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/37e1139/console.html#_2015-05-07_20_01_52_49820:44
sdagueoh, mriedem you missed out on crazy liquid n2 icecream in palo alto20:46
mriedemsounds like witchcraft20:46
sdaguehttp://smittenicecream.com/20:47
sdagueit's kind of exactly the opposite of witchcraft20:47
mriedemwhat science?20:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/grenade: clean up upgrade scripts  https://review.openstack.org/17733420:49
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dansmithsdague: like this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/107555202@N02/10767618966/in/dateposted-public/20:51
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dansmithhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/107555202@N02/10767826383/in/dateposted-public/20:52
sdaguedansmith: yep, more or less20:53
mriedemwhat does taylor's shirt say there?20:53
mtreinishdansmith: oh, that place in hk20:54
dansmithmriedem: superdry20:54
dansmithmriedem: it's some hipster thing20:54
dansmithmriedem: what did you think it said?20:54
mriedemoh neutron logs, i wish you meant something20:55
mtreinishheh, I just realized I had that liquid n2 ice cream at both of the places.20:58
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mtreinishI'm really slow today20:58
mriedemsc68cal: mestery: http://goo.gl/e527Wn20:58
melwittmriedem: in the newer failures I don't see the error in tempest.log, it's only in console20:58
mriedemmelwitt: me too20:58
mriedemsc68cal: mestery: note the spike in that keyerror20:58
mriedemnot directly causing failed tests, but spikey is bad20:59
dansmithmtreinish: sorry, I should have spelled it out for you I guess :)20:59
mtreinishmelwitt, mriedem: yeah, I think something changed with the exception logging and the capture fixture. It definitely used to log all the exceptions20:59
mtreinishbut for some reason it doesn't seem to anymore20:59
mtreinishI haven't had a chance to dig into it20:59
mtreinishdims, dhellmann: was there an oslo logging change around that?21:00
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sc68calmriedem: looking21:00
mtreinishdhellmann: oh, you switched tempest over from the incubator logging to oslo.log right? Do you think the default on unhandled exceptions could have changed during that?21:02
sc68calodd though, that does look like a legit error - the agent should have a local vlan map set up, so it knows what vlan to use for that neutron network21:03
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mriedemsc68cal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145290321:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1452903 in neutron "KeyError in ovs_neutron_agent._bind_devices" [Undecided,New]21:05
mriedemsc68cal: maybe it's on tear down or something?21:05
mriedemlooks like a polling task?21:05
sc68calyeah it's in part of a polling task, to update ports21:07
sc68calAlso seeing ovs-vsctl barf on a missing port21:07
sc68calhttp://logs.openstack.org/97/157097/12/check/check-neutron-dsvm-api/eea86b7/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz?level=TRACE21:07
sc68calmriedem: should I add that to that bug or a new one?21:08
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mriedemsc68cal: i have no idea if those are related21:08
* mriedem isn't a neutron guy21:08
mriedemsc68cal: i would *love* if the neutron logs were not terrible21:09
mriedemso whatever makes that happen21:09
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sc68calmriedem: I'll do a little digging on it and report back21:10
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mriedemthanks21:11
mriedemi could put up a patch to handle the keyerror, that's easy enough21:11
sc68calyeah but that just masks the issue21:12
sc68calit'll just blow up somewhere else21:13
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update query for bug 1403291  https://review.openstack.org/18115021:14
openstackbug 1403291 in neutron "VM's fail to receive DHCPOFFER messages" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1403291 - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)21:14
mriedemmelwitt: ^21:14
mriedemsc68cal: well, like i said, this is 93% success in jobs when it hits21:15
mriedemso this isn't directly causing failures21:15
mriedemit's spiking though21:15
melwittmriedem: cool, I was fumbling around trying to make parens and OR work21:15
mriedemthere are db errors in the dhcp agent logs and server logs, not sure if any of those are related or matter21:15
mriedemthere are errors everywhere21:15
mriedemmelwitt: the OR wasn't working for me21:15
mriedemso f it21:15
sc68calmriedem: I do see a recent patch related to agent restarts that merged recently21:16
melwittmriedem: good it wasn't just me haha21:16
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dimsmtreinish: sorry, what's up?21:17
mriedemsc68cal: hmm v21:18
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/bd5373b670cdd7f21f8a1ece98fde6be9fda71ab21:18
mriedemwe're seeing the spike in security group related tests21:18
sc68calmriedem: yeah this commit actually futzes with the local_vlan_map, and it was merged right around when these spikes happened - https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/48c336e4507d153b8f76e53589305b7dd5c4553421:18
mriedemheh, yup21:18
sc68calheh21:18
mtreinishdims: nothing dire, mriedem just pointed out that exceptions that cause a test failure are no longer ending up in tempest's log file21:18
mtreinishthey used to be there21:18
dimsmtreinish: i dont remember anything that would affect that from the top of my head. have a link handy? i can look in a bit21:19
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mtreinishdims: sure I can dig a link up, one sec21:21
mtreinishdims: but tempest also was on incubator logging for a long time until dhellmann switched to the lib a couple months ago21:22
mtreinishso it might not have been a recent change21:22
dimsmtreinish: ack21:23
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mtreinishdims: so the one that melwitt and mriedem pointed it out to me on was: http://logs.openstack.org/95/176395/1/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/37e1139/console.html#_2015-05-07_20_01_52_49821:25
mtreinishthe tempest log doesn't have the traceback: http://logs.openstack.org/95/176395/1/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/37e1139/logs/tempest.txt.gz?level=TRACE21:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/devstack: Set live_migrate_paused_instances=True in tempest.conf  https://review.openstack.org/17232621:41
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Enable optional Python 3 support  https://review.openstack.org/18116521:55
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openstackrecheckopenstack/sahara change: https://review.openstack.org/178640 failed gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full in the gate queue with an unrecognized error22:10
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nikita09mtreinish: hello matt...just an update on the issue of running tempest tests against keystone v3 only... so it turns out that we were able to hit the tests , based on the workarounds on tempest.conf..23:00
nikita09the gotchas were:  i) should not specify any admin_tenant param or user tenant parameter whatsoever ....if only using v3, we should NEVER specify tenant params in tempest.conf   ii) secndly, as samuel pointed out, having a value of "uri" is required, even though u set auth_version to v3 , api_v2 to false , still required...so we just equate uri = keystone v3 url but replaced v3 with v2 ( facepalm :/ )23:03
mtreinishnikita09: ok, yeah that's broken23:04
mtreinishcan you add all these details to the bug23:04
mtreinishbecause we should fix them all23:04
mtreinishso it becomes clear on how to do this23:04
nikita09mtreinish: the above two things worked for us.... as far as the errors for initialization you and i saw for running against keystone v3 , i.e. you are not authorized etc etc ... that all depends on how you policy.json for keystone23:04
nikita09mtreinish:23:04
nikita09mtreinish: sure i will add all details to the bug :)23:05
nikita09mtreinish: so for errors like this http://fpaste.org/218706/84713714/ , it should be specified in tempest docs in details how to work with keystone v3...as policy.json is bottleneck of v3 to work properly ..and these errors are only solved on tempest side if you lax the policy.json23:06
mtreinishnikita09: well tbh that's always an issue with tempest, for a lot of things tempest assumes the default policy.json23:07
mtreinishit's honestly a wider issue with openstack interop, because that stuff really isn't discoverable up front23:08
nikita09mtreinish: yep..but our team literally had one guy change something in policy.json, and other guy would run corresponding tempest v3 test :p and thats how we fig out that policy.json is game needs to change ) i also sem to notice number of smoke tests are very low as comprated to tag 3 ...any reason why its getting less with latest tempest??23:10
mtreinishnikita09: yeah it was never meant to be big, there was ml post about: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/062775.html23:11
nikita09mtreinish: and for cli tests, these will be moved to respective service cli libs or tempest-lib?? i saw a review today in which all cli tests are removed23:11
mtreinishnikita09: yeah that was something we were pushing for in kilo, most of the clients have already made the migration. The final removal should land tomorrow23:12
nikita09mtreinish: thanks :)good to know tempest is getting a little lightweight :)23:16
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18119623:29
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