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| openstack | bug 1464259 in Cinder "EC2VolumesTest fails with rbd backend" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464259 | 05:57 |
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| sdague | dansmith: so... this is an interesting unintended consequence. database_url is constructed out of new devstack code, which defaults to the new driver now. And apparently no one has put pymysql into their test-requirements.txt | 10:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Revert "change the default to PyMYSQL" https://review.openstack.org/191010 | 10:43 |
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| dims | sdague: ha, interesting ^^ | 10:45 |
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| sdague | yeh, looks like there is some implicit locking behavior in neutron that depends on the current db driver | 10:47 |
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| cdent | sdague: :( you unblocked it | 10:50 |
| * cdent haz a sad | 10:51 | |
| sdague | cdent: because it's better to have 2000 devs sit on their hands and not merge any code? | 10:53 |
| cdent | yes! | 10:53 |
| cdent | 100% yes | 10:53 |
| sdague | really? | 10:53 |
| cdent | Yeah. The way we do things now there is no collective sense of ownership for the fact that the code is flakey. One way to get that collective sense is to make bugs _hurt_. | 10:54 |
| cdent | And in case, if code doesn't merge that doesn't prevent code from being written | 10:54 |
| cdent | or docs getting cleaned up | 10:54 |
| cdent | or any of a variety of things | 10:54 |
| cdent | it's not like people don't have other things to do | 10:54 |
| sdague | that assumes that all those things are independent of code lands, which they aren't always | 10:55 |
| cdent | sure | 10:55 |
| sdague | and you have to communicate to 2000 people why things are stopped, mostly they won't know | 10:55 |
| cdent | but from my perspective we pay an enormous cost when we consistently hide or shy away from bugs | 10:55 |
| sdague | just their stuff doesn't work, and they pull their hair out all day | 10:55 |
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| cdent | their stuff doesn't work because the container of their stuff doesn't work | 10:56 |
| sdague | we also pay an enourmous cost on the community if we decide to apply vengeance to all because of a bug only about 10 people can address. | 10:56 |
| jokke_ | Don't shoot me if I'm totally out of my mind, but would it be possible to make a manually triggered job queue that would effectively run ~all project tests agains change? I think it would help catching these issues on fundamental changes like this before they gets merged/released. | 10:57 |
| sdague | jokke_: this change passed a job which later it caused to fail | 10:57 |
| sdague | this is all about statistics | 10:57 |
| cdent | Yeah, I know sdague, but I feel like the compromise has gone too far | 10:57 |
| cdent | so it gets me all het up | 10:58 |
| jokke_ | sdague: ach ... fair enough ... I was just thinking that these seems to happen ... fortunately revert is fairly easy task, but anything that could catch beforehand would be great. Didn't want to offend on any means | 10:59 |
| jogo | sdague: what is the failure rate roughly? | 10:59 |
| jogo | sdague: or is it blocking kilo mainly? | 10:59 |
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| sdague | jogo: so I had 3 indepedent devstack-gate patches bounce off of it | 11:00 |
| sdague | which is all master code | 11:00 |
| jokke_ | cdent: that's the pain on CICD and "agile". They just fundamentally does not support bugs ;) | 11:01 |
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| sdague | jokke_: yeh, if jobs 100% passed or 100% failed, your approach would have merrit. But when things are doing 50% statistical fail... it's really messy to figure out good / bad. | 11:02 |
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| sdague | we just got unlucky that this managed to not fail the neutron jobs when it landed (by total chance) | 11:02 |
| sdague | even though it was a high fail patch | 11:02 |
| jokke_ | sdague: that happens | 11:03 |
| jogo | sdague: ouch, yeah that is bad | 11:03 |
| jogo | sdague: would it be possible to revert only in the neutron case? | 11:03 |
| sdague | jokke_: yep... what's why we built elastic recheck | 11:03 |
| jogo | or is that not worth the complexity | 11:03 |
| sdague | jogo: it's possible to only apply it on neutron jobs | 11:03 |
| jokke_ | sdague: <3 | 11:03 |
| sdague | or inverse | 11:03 |
| jogo | sdague: right, if possible that would be my preference. | 11:04 |
| sdague | jogo: yes, see my ML post about it | 11:04 |
| sdague | but, that patch is in a different place than this one | 11:04 |
| sdague | you can see the thrashing in the gate nodes with the nodepool patch | 11:05 |
| sdague | nodepool graphs | 11:05 |
| jogo | wow that is very spiky | 11:05 |
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| jogo | http://jogo.github.io/gate/ has some things going on | 11:06 |
| jogo | sdague: that reminds me, why is ES so backed up? | 11:06 |
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| cdent | ww | 11:07 |
| jogo | sdague: not sure who to figure out | 11:07 |
| sdague | jogo: you have to talk to an infra person for that | 11:07 |
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| cdent | I've had doing that for ceilo on my to do list for about forever but it keeps slipping | 11:56 |
| flaper87 | cdent: my patch kept failing, it'll hopefully pass this time... :D | 11:57 |
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| dansmith | sdague: yeah, so I was thinking for the from-kilo script I would just sed my way to a similar url to the main one | 13:28 |
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| sdague | superdan: so... actually, I think we just need to make sure the new driver gets installed. That being said, we've got to revert the driver and try again anyway, because of the neutron issues exposed | 14:35 |
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| superdan | sdague: so, first we revert the devstack bit, then we add it to requirements, then re-add it/ | 14:59 |
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| sdague | yeh, probably. | 15:00 |
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| superdan | sdague: okay | 15:16 |
| lifeless | sdague: so we're going to do the non-voting pymysql jobs thing instead? | 15:17 |
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| sdague | lifeless: just for neutron | 15:19 |
| sdague | or neutron jobs | 15:19 |
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| cdent | dtroyer: Does this change for causing install of pymysql make sense, or is it better to do do it per project: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190958/ (this is related to the conversation we had a while ago about virt envs and optional requirements). I would think in this case since pymysql is or will be widespread, this is right. | 17:13 |
| cdent | (and if so, can someone give it a kick?) | 17:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: revert to eventlet based keystone upgrade for juno -> kilo https://review.openstack.org/190664 | 17:19 |
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| sdague | cdent: does that actually make that a truness - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190958/1 ? | 17:28 |
| sdague | I thought those venv packages just triggered wheel installs | 17:29 |
| cdent | I don't understand your question sdague | 17:29 |
| sdague | so, the venv package list is just stuff that gets wheels built iirc | 17:31 |
| sdague | it's just a speed up | 17:31 |
| sdague | oh, this is the second variable there | 17:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Kiran proposed openstack/tempest: Make default ec2_api=False in compute-feature-enabled https://review.openstack.org/191158 | 17:32 |
| sdague | cdent: yeh, that should be fine | 17:33 |
| sdague | the gnochi job is the only one I know using the venv bits | 17:33 |
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| sdague | if it wasn't using them, this would be fine | 17:33 |
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| cdent | I guess an ancillary question is: When this hoopa joop with neutron is cleared up, something needs to happen in devstack about $MYSQL_DRIVER's default? | 17:34 |
| sdague | yes, we'll revert revert | 17:34 |
| sdague | armax has up some patches, I need to look at them | 17:35 |
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| cdent | thanks sdague | 17:36 |
| cdent | I think I have done enough today. | 17:37 |
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| sdague | enjoy your weekend | 17:38 |
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| kiran-r | Please review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191158/ | 17:44 |
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| mriedem | well well well | 20:00 |
| mriedem | keystone/httpd/wsgi-keystone.conf now defaults the number of processes per api/admin service to be 5 | 20:01 |
| mriedem | devstack doesn't change that with $API_WORKERS | 20:01 |
| mriedem | so if you have a smallish VM running devstack (4GB), sorry | 20:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Kranz proposed openstack/tempest: Change calls to rand_name to use the prefix-embedded version https://review.openstack.org/171586 | 20:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: fix grenade phase check https://review.openstack.org/190703 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tempest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/188117 | 20:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tempest: Neutron: Remove get_namespace from API extensions https://review.openstack.org/190378 | 20:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: [WIP] run centos7 with neutron https://review.openstack.org/179689 | 22:53 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/glance change: https://review.openstack.org/190190 failed because of: gate-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1455123 | 23:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1455123 in OpenStack-Gate "fatal: unable to access 'https://git.openstack.org/openstack/sahara/': GnuTLS recv error (-9): A TLS packet with unexpected length was received." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 23:12 |
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