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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501558 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-net: libvirtError: Error while building firewall: Some rules could not be created for interface: Unable to update the kernel" [High,Confirmed] | 01:31 |
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| mriedem | sc68cal: how do we go about debugging these failures? http://logs.openstack.org/19/225319/20/gate/gate-neutron-dsvm-api/9d9b806/console.html#_2015-11-05_00_01_58_095 - there are a bunch of failures in the q-svc logs but they don't result in 100% job fails in logstash, | 01:40 |
| mriedem | where is the fwaas stuff logged? i assume q-svc | 01:40 |
| mriedem | which is confusing if it's run as it's own service | 01:40 |
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| mriedem | i guess i can use this http://logs.openstack.org/96/237896/4/gate/gate-neutron-dsvm-api/6e1d5c7/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_2015-11-04_20_14_34_810 | 01:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/tempest: baremetal: skip test_network_basic_ops https://review.openstack.org/241790 | 06:09 |
| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/tempest: baremetal: skip test_network_basic_ops https://review.openstack.org/241790 | 06:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | yapeng Yang proposed openstack-dev/devstack: To solve the problem of the grammar the RST https://review.openstack.org/241907 | 07:17 |
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| mkoderer | oomichi_: gmann: time for a quick review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241549/ :) | 07:30 |
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| dmellado | mkoderer: I'll take a look | 07:38 |
| dmellado | oops, It looks that I already did xD | 07:38 |
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| mkoderer | dmellado: yeah :) | 07:38 |
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| gmann | mkoderer: Done, nice catch | 07:40 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/horizon change: https://review.openstack.org/241456 failed because of: gate-horizon-npm-run-lint: unrecognized error, gate-horizon-npm-run-test: unrecognized error, gate-tempest-dsvm-full: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1286635 | 07:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1286635 in OpenStack-Gate ""Packages cannot be authenticated" when doing an apt-get in the gate" [Undecided,Won't fix] | 07:58 |
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| anusha | hi, we have implemented plugin model for tempest tests , but how to enable them to run in gate ? | 09:25 |
| anusha | does setting DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST = 1, will run the tests automatically? | 09:25 |
| anusha | in project-config | 09:26 |
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| mkoderer | anusha: hi | 09:37 |
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| mkoderer | anusha: have a look here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201955/21/contrib/ci/post_test_hook.sh | 09:39 |
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| mkoderer | anusha: basically you don't need to do much since devstack will register all tests for you | 09:40 |
| mkoderer | anusha: since it's running setup.py and stevedore will register the plugin | 09:40 |
| mkoderer | anusha: the only thing that is important is that you run "tox -eall-plugin" instead of "tox -eall" | 09:41 |
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| anusha | mkoderer: thanks | 09:44 |
| anusha | mkoderer: but what does DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST_ALL_PLUGINS = 1 do? | 09:45 |
| mkoderer | anusha: ure welcome. just ping me if you have any issue with it | 09:45 |
| mkoderer | anusha: let me check.. | 09:45 |
| anusha | mkoderer: right now , we keep, DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST=1 in the project config , does that would suffice | 09:46 |
| mkoderer | anusha: I actually never heard about DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST_ALL_PLUGINS.. let me search a bit | 09:47 |
| mkoderer | anusha: it's only used in murano? | 09:48 |
| anusha | mkoderer: ok , i have seen it here https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh#L336 | 09:48 |
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| mkoderer | anusha: aha yes.. this variable sound fine :) | 09:49 |
| mkoderer | anusha: seems I am not up to date ;) | 09:49 |
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| anusha | mkoderer: :) | 09:50 |
| mkoderer | anusha: the commit was 3 day ago :) | 09:51 |
| anusha | mkoderer: just enabling this variable would do? i guess we are not using anything like post_test_hook now | 09:51 |
| mkoderer | anusha: so it depends.. if you have a manual call of tox within your devstack pluging (line Manila) you don't need it | 09:52 |
| mkoderer | anusha: which project we are talking about? | 09:53 |
| anusha | mkoderer: oh, let me check, im trying to enable for congress project | 09:53 |
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| mkoderer | anusha: ah ok, I am also working on Congress currently.. | 09:54 |
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| anusha | mkoderer: oh, great :) | 09:54 |
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| jordanP | piyush_, hi :) | 10:40 |
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| piyush_ | Hi JordanP: this is regard to the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240192 | 10:42 |
| jordanP | yep | 10:42 |
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| piyush_ | JordanP: As per review the name should be upload_image, but that tag is not giving any meaningful info so why not keep it image_upload_allowed or something else | 10:44 |
| piyush_ | JordanP: yes thats okay that we can move it to image_feature_enabled | 10:44 |
| jordanP | piyush_, if you move that option is the group "image-feature-enabled" then it would make sense | 10:44 |
| jordanP | because the code will then be CONF.image_feature_enabled.upload_image | 10:45 |
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| jordanP | piyush_, at least move that into the image_feature_enabled group | 10:46 |
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| piyush_ | jordanP: yes that I am doing just wanted to discuss over the name :-) | 10:47 |
| jordanP | then you would have CONF.image_feature_enabled.image_upload_allowed this is a bit weird because you have "enabled" and allowed in the same line | 10:47 |
| piyush_ | Jordan: okay so can it be image_upload_non_admin | 10:48 |
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| piyush_ | JordanP: because its just for non_admin user so i was wondering | 10:48 |
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| jordanP | piyush_, no I don"t like adding non_admin | 10:49 |
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| jordanP | because image upload could be disabled by other means (such as a firewall) | 10:49 |
| jordanP | no only through policy.json | 10:50 |
| jordanP | we should keep this feature flag generic | 10:50 |
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| piyush_ | jordanP: okay great so i will do as per comment | 10:50 |
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| piyush_ | thanks | 10:50 |
| piyush_ | :-) | 10:50 |
| jordanP | cool, thanks | 10:50 |
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| glauco | Hey folks! | 11:52 |
| glauco | I was wondering if we could get third page (job detail) landed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232090/ | 11:53 |
| glauco | We currently could see data for this downstream. The issue we are facing is only happening upstream due to the amount of data we have | 11:53 |
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| dmellado | hey glauco, I was also curious about this http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/tests | 12:11 |
| dmellado | I don't think that all tests are failing 100% xD | 12:11 |
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| dmellado | is this a wip? | 12:11 |
| glauco | dmellado: it is a wip in the sense that we will need to work to get a better visualization | 12:12 |
| glauco | but as far as I know, this data is real | 12:12 |
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| glauco | and these tests are actually failing 100% of time | 12:12 |
| dmellado | Oh, I see | 12:12 |
| dmellado | only failing tests are being shown there | 12:13 |
| dmellado | + I do agree in about the better visualization | 12:13 |
| glauco | dmellado: we are very open to suggestions on how to visualize this. We have tried splitting into smaller chunks and only showing the top 10 failures | 12:15 |
| glauco | but it pretty much looks like a rainbow... | 12:15 |
| dmellado | glauco: lol | 12:15 |
| dmellado | I'll comment with a frontend friend, who might've better ideas than me ;) | 12:16 |
| glauco | dmellado: cool! Thank you! :) | 12:16 |
| dmellado | btw glauco I was checking your patch and its in merge conflict, could you address that? +1 besides it ;) | 12:16 |
| glauco | dmellado: do you mean this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240453/ | 12:17 |
| dmellado | glauco: yep | 12:17 |
| dmellado | no, not that one | 12:17 |
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| dmellado | sorry | 12:17 |
| dmellado | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232090/ | 12:17 |
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| glauco | dmellado: sure! it is already on my to do for today. Currently working on a small refactoring for the o-h api | 12:18 |
| dmellado | ;) | 12:18 |
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| ccarrara | Folks, from yesterday to today we got a bunch of bugs on o-h production. There is no place to report them, how could we track them? | 13:23 |
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| ccarrara | Today on our etherpad there are only section for deployment and UI/UX improvements under to do stuffs. Should we open a new subtopic to bugs? | 13:25 |
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| lbragstad | mtreinish updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231191/ to reflect our conversation at the summit, thanks again! | 15:00 |
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| jordanP | andreaf, ping ? | 15:08 |
| jordanP | I started a new devstack and now I have "tempest_lib.exceptions.InvalidCredentials: Invalid Credentials | 15:08 |
| jordanP | Details: Credentials are: {'username': None, 'tenant_id': None, 'user_id': None, 'tenant_name': None} Password is not defined." | 15:08 |
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| dmellado | jordanP: could you check the last commit? | 15:16 |
| dmellado | I deployed one this morning and it went ok | 15:16 |
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| jordanP | dmellado, last commit is commit c16517c2c0ef6f750a6f17f15212b97c79360f81 | 15:17 |
| jordanP | Date: Thu Nov 5 12:19:56 2015 +000 | 15:17 |
| dmellado | let me check mine | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: inline comment on when to do branches https://review.openstack.org/230956 | 15:17 |
| andreaf | jordanP: which type of credentials are you using? | 15:17 |
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| andreaf | jordanP: which cred provider? | 15:18 |
| dmellado | oops jordanP, killed it | 15:18 |
| dmellado | let me retry ;) | 15:18 |
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| dmellado | oh, it was from yesterday | 15:19 |
| jordanP | andreaf, I don"t know, I did ./stack.sh and cd /opt/stack/tempest && tox -e all | 15:19 |
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| jordanP | I see this line in the output from tox: Using tempest config file /etc/tempest/tempest.conf | 15:19 |
| jordanP | but I don't have any /etc/tempest/tempest.conf | 15:20 |
| dmellado | jordanP: latest commit on mine Date: Tue Nov 3 15:16:04 2015 +0000 | 15:20 |
| andreaf | jordanP: devstack should write a tempest.conf for you | 15:20 |
| jordanP | andreaf, it is in /opt/stack/tempest/etc/tempest.conf | 15:21 |
| dmellado | maybe a typo in tox? | 15:21 |
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| jordanP | euh no, it's not in /opt/stack/tempest/etc/tempest.conf | 15:21 |
| jordanP | it used to be though... | 15:21 |
| jordanP | hum lemme check more | 15:21 |
| andreaf | jordanP: ok - it would be good to have sane defaults for devstack + tempest, so clone and run should work :) | 15:22 |
| jordanP | andreaf, I see. Something went wrong during my ./stack.sh | 15:23 |
| jordanP | so this tempest.conf was not properly written | 15:23 |
| dmellado | jordanP: the tempest.conf file is there in my devstack | 15:23 |
| jordanP | all is fine, sorry for the noise :) | 15:23 |
| andreaf | jordanP: np | 15:23 |
| dmellado | no worries, just try unstack+stack | 15:23 |
| dmellado | and good luck! xD | 15:23 |
| jordanP | yeah, yeah, I know my devstack :) | 15:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Glauco Oliveira proposed openstack/openstack-health: Add third page (job) https://review.openstack.org/232090 | 15:48 |
| glauco | mtreinish: timothyb89: regXboi: ccarrara: could we try reviewing this? ^^^ | 15:49 |
| glauco | we would like to have it working downstream, even though we are not being able to see data upstream, we can downstream | 15:49 |
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| regXboi | glauco: is there any reason why job_sample.json is still part of the patch? | 15:52 |
| glauco | regXboi: actually there isn't! It should have been deleted a while ago! will do it now! thanks for the reminder! :) | 15:53 |
| regXboi | glauco: :) | 15:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Glauco Oliveira proposed openstack/openstack-health: Add third page (job) https://review.openstack.org/232090 | 15:53 |
| glauco | regXboi: ^^^ | 15:54 |
| regXboi | glauco: dat's better ;) | 15:54 |
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| rfolco | mtreinish, around? | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Glauco Oliveira proposed openstack/openstack-health: Add sort options to columns in job detail page https://review.openstack.org/237757 | 15:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Glauco Oliveira proposed openstack/openstack-health: Add unit tests around JobController https://review.openstack.org/238987 | 15:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Theis proposed openstack-dev/devstack: doc: Update LBaaS v2 setup for Liberty https://review.openstack.org/234194 | 16:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/tempest: Provide better message when no IPv4 addresses found https://review.openstack.org/241800 | 16:16 |
| andrew__ | Hi, I'm new to Tempest and trying to follow the Quickstart guide from the readme to install but not getting far. What is the easiest way to install Tempest? | 16:16 |
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| rfolco | andrew__, install devstack on a vm using your localrc with passwords and settings, switch to tempest dir, e.g. /opt/stack/tempest, install requirements, and run ./run_tempest script | 16:21 |
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| andrew__ | if the tempest dir is not in /opt/stack/ would I git clone the openstack /tempest dir? | 16:26 |
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| sdague | andrew__: you can clone it anywhere | 16:36 |
| sdague | andrew__: the biggest issue is making a config file that matches your cloud | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Glauco Oliveira proposed openstack/openstack-health: Add sort options to columns in job detail page https://review.openstack.org/237757 | 16:39 |
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| andrew__ | sdague: ok thank you, I will read further on the config file | 16:42 |
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| openstackrecheck | Console logs not available after 13:23s for gate-tempest-dsvm-nova-v20-api-legacy 241976,4,958ee3e | 16:43 |
| openstackrecheck | openstack/swift change: https://review.openstack.org/232572 failed gate-swift-python27 in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 16:43 |
| rfolco | andrew__, a typical localrc for running stack.sh (devstack)... http://logs.openstack.org/59/240159/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/3b637f6/logs/localrc.txt.gz | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-health: Add loading alert https://review.openstack.org/241326 | 16:48 |
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| bdrich | Hello. I'm trying to run tests in lbaas using tox -e scenario, however I am receiving error: ERROR: could not install deps [-r/opt/bbc/openstack-11.0-master/neutron/src/neutron-lbaas/test-requirements.txt]RequirementParseError: Missing distribution spec <<<<<<< HEAD | 16:48 |
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| timothyb89 | glauco: for https://review.openstack.org/237757 I think you'll need to specify values for sort-field in job.html | 16:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Glauco Oliveira proposed openstack/openstack-health: Add sort options to columns in job detail page https://review.openstack.org/237757 | 16:54 |
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| glauco | timothyb89: ^^^ | 16:54 |
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| glauco | apparently my replace didn't work as expected | 16:54 |
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| timothyb89 | glauco: great, looks perfect! | 16:54 |
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| timothyb89 | glauco: related, are there any not-yet-merged subunit2sql patches needed for the job page to work? | 16:55 |
| timothyb89 | glauco: I am attempting to test, but the api server hangs | 16:55 |
| glauco | timothyb89: there is still an ongoing conversation on this. Nobody actually knows what need to be done in order to get it working. | 16:55 |
| glauco | timothyb89: this seem to be related to the amount of data we have in db | 16:56 |
| glauco | downstream we are able to see this page without any problems | 16:56 |
| timothyb89 | glauco: ah darn, alright then | 16:56 |
| glauco | but we know that the problem will arise once we get enough data | 16:56 |
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| glauco | There are several options. mtreinish mentioned that clint was working on getting some db optimization done | 16:57 |
| glauco | but the data migration would take 3 whole days | 16:57 |
| timothyb89 | oh wow, that is troublesome | 16:57 |
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| glauco | another option would be getting this database out of trove into a baremetal or vm (trying to avoid the trove abstraction) - we are not even sure if trove abstraction poses any harm in this case | 16:58 |
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| glauco | yet another option would be purging db, keeping only the last 6 months of data | 16:58 |
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| glauco | But that is not a real option downstream | 16:59 |
| glauco | timothyb89: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ | 16:59 |
| glauco | any ideas why this is happening? | 16:59 |
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| glauco | trying to run it locally and see if I can reproduce it | 17:00 |
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| timothyb89 | glauco: it looks like the templates may not have been compiled? odd | 17:00 |
| glauco | gulp dev works fine. But gulp prod doesn't | 17:01 |
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| timothyb89 | glauco: possibly a minifier problem, missing @ngInject again somewhere maybe | 17:02 |
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| glauco | timothyb89: think I found it | 17:03 |
| glauco | it was on the interceptor I included | 17:04 |
| glauco | my bad | 17:04 |
| timothyb89 | glauco: ah, yep, I think you're right | 17:04 |
| glauco | I should start running gulp prod before sending patches | 17:04 |
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| timothyb89 | glauco: gotta love angular's bizarre dependency injection, it certainly doesn't spare us the headaches :) | 17:06 |
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| jordanP | dear ianw, I have another backport to request today :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242165/ (Restrict requests to fedora) | 17:08 |
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| jordanP | it's a 2-line change | 17:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Glauco Oliveira proposed openstack/openstack-health: Add missing @ngInject https://review.openstack.org/242167 | 17:15 |
| glauco | timothyb89: ^^^ | 17:15 |
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| SpamapS | mtreinish: are you around this week, or still post-summitting? | 17:16 |
| mmedvede | mtreinish: I would like to enable reporting for our CI on devstack (non-voting initially). As there is no qa meeting this week, should I wait for the next meeting? The job we run is rather stable, and it might catch problems for fedora PPC distro | 17:17 |
| glauco | SpamapS: mmedvede: I think he is out this week. Have been trying to talk to him the whole week without success | 17:18 |
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| mmedvede | glauco: thanks! | 17:18 |
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| mmedvede | I guess that is why no meeting today :) | 17:19 |
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| SpamapS | glauco: makes sense. ;) | 17:20 |
| SpamapS | struggling with integrating my counter attachments to subunit2sql | 17:20 |
| SpamapS | it wasn't really designed with run-wide attachments in mind.. so the data model is a little borked for that. :-P | 17:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Glauco Oliveira proposed openstack/openstack-health: Add third page (job) https://review.openstack.org/232090 | 17:21 |
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| sdague | SpamapS: mtreinish is vacationing in japan this week | 17:30 |
| sdague | he should be back next week | 17:30 |
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| jlvillal | Any chance to get reviews on patch to make Ironic pass tempest 'smoke' tests? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241790/ | 17:42 |
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| jlvillal | sdague, I tried the hack approach you discussed with jroll to make the grenade tests pass with Ironic. Using https://review.openstack.org/241837 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241019/ | 17:46 |
| jlvillal | That stopped some things from breaking but then other breakages occurred later. I was hoping to get some new ideas and maybe a better way to make this work :) | 17:47 |
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| jlvillal | And if anyone else is familiar please feel free to chime in :) | 17:48 |
| jlvillal | familiar with grenade that is | 17:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-health: Add missing @ngInject https://review.openstack.org/242167 | 17:51 |
| jlvillal | jroll, So deleting the 60_nova/resources.sh got it to not fail the Nova section. Shocking! ;) | 17:51 |
| jroll | jlvillal: seems like we just need to disable cinder in general there | 17:51 |
| jlvillal | jroll, But then it failed on cinder | 17:51 |
| jroll | right, so our jobs disable cinder because we don't use it | 17:51 |
| jlvillal | jroll, Okay. So disable all cinder. I can do that | 17:51 |
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| jroll | (disable cinder in devstack, that is) | 17:52 |
| jroll | (I think) | 17:52 |
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| sdague | right, ironic doesn't support volumes right? | 17:52 |
| sdague | I think disabling cinder is the right approach | 17:52 |
| jlvillal | jroll, Let me look at project-config and see if it can be done there. | 17:52 |
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| SpamapS | sdague: ty | 17:53 |
| jlvillal | sdague, Or would adding a conditional to the cinder stuff in grenade be better? if is_service_enabled ir-api .... | 17:53 |
| jroll | jlvillal: yeah, I assume grenade has a way to just disabel the cinder bits altogether | 17:53 |
| sdague | jlvillal: honestly, we need to get ironic out of the main grenade tree and do this with plugins | 17:54 |
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| sdague | and figure out how to turn that off correctly that way | 17:54 |
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| jlvillal | sdague, Okay. So do you suggest abandoning this work to make it work in main greande tree now? And focus on plug-in? | 17:54 |
| sdague | jlvillal: well, it should be mostly the same work | 17:54 |
| sdague | just in a different tree. We definitely don't want conditionals in the cinder code about ironic being enabled | 17:55 |
| jlvillal | sdague, Is this the info I should look at? https://github.com/openstack-dev/grenade/blob/master/PLUGINS.rst | 17:55 |
| sdague | jlvillal: yeh | 17:55 |
| jlvillal | sdague, Thanks. I will work on learning that today. | 17:55 |
| sdague | my guess is the settings file for the ironic plugin should disable the cinder services | 17:55 |
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| sdague | so when you enable the plugin, it disables those | 17:56 |
| sdague | the reason the nova tests fails is floating-ips? | 17:56 |
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| sdague | I went down that path so there was a way we could have consistent interface between nova and neutron | 17:56 |
| jlvillal | sdague, The tempest 'smoke' test. Will that was my guess. | 17:56 |
| sdague | jlvillal: the resource scripts fail as well | 17:57 |
| jlvillal | sdague, For my patch to make tempest smoke tests work. | 17:57 |
| jlvillal | sdague, Which is unrelated to my grenade work. Except it made it pass the first tempest test run in grenade. | 17:57 |
| sdague | so, how does one using a cloud know that ironic computes can't have floating ips? | 17:58 |
| jroll | sdague: yes, it appears the resource scripts fail for floating IPs as well | 17:58 |
| jroll | sdague: but even if not, the security group there will kill it | 17:58 |
| jroll | sdague: great question :) | 17:58 |
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| jlvillal | sdague, Thanks for the help! | 17:59 |
| jlvillal | You too jroll ;) | 17:59 |
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| sdague | jroll: because this is kind of a head scratcher about a backend that doesn't support these things, and how our API is consistent about knowning that | 17:59 |
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| jroll | sdague: right, there's the same problem with instance actions that go async down to the virt driver (e.g. volume-attach) | 18:02 |
| sdague | yeh, I feel like we need to huddle up here about this. We downgraded cells to experimental because it didn't support the full nova api | 18:02 |
| jlvillal | sdague, Do you know a project which is using a grenade plugin. So I can see it in action? | 18:02 |
| sdague | jlvillal: ceilometer | 18:02 |
| jlvillal | sdague, Thanks | 18:02 |
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| sdague | also heat, but I know the ceilometer one is working, as I worked through it with cdent recently | 18:02 |
| jroll | sdague: so this is really a bigger issue overall, in that the nova api is so virt-centric. for example we'll almost certainly never be able to support live migrate for ironic | 18:04 |
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| jroll | or like, vif-create, if that's a thing | 18:04 |
| jroll | (I seem to remember it is, but not totally sure) | 18:04 |
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| sdague | right, but it's the nova api | 18:05 |
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| jroll | right | 18:06 |
| jroll | so we need to ask ourselves if this is the nova api or the compute api | 18:06 |
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| sdague | well, it is this api. I feel like we pretty strongly have said that in the past. Which is why we didn't massively change it for containers. | 18:09 |
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| sdague | anyway, this is beyond a qa issue, we should circle with the rest of the nova team on this | 18:09 |
| sdague | because if the answer is a nova driver doesn't support a huge set of the API, and we've said the API is no longer optional via extensions, those cause a pretty big conflict. | 18:10 |
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| jroll | sdague: yeah, indeed. I just think it would be silly to mark a production-ready thing experimental because it doesn't support things that are impossible on that type of compute resource :) | 18:12 |
| sdague | jroll: sure, except we're also really pushing on interop. So that all users of the API can get the same thing. | 18:13 |
| sdague | it's not like the Nova API wasn't known when this process was started :) | 18:13 |
| jroll | sdague: yeah, I know | 18:13 |
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| sdague | I think that because ironic was skipping most of Tempest an most of the Nova people didn't realize that, the current mismatch wasn't so understood. | 18:15 |
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| jroll | maybe? we weren't exactly trying to hide that, but we weren't loud about it either | 18:16 |
| mordred | so - the thing is - an ironic-backed nova isn't the same from an end-user interop story as the differences between kvm and xen leaking through the abstraction | 18:17 |
| sdague | I'm not saying it was malicious, I think just a bunch of people assumed that run was all of tempest | 18:17 |
| mordred | users who are booting bare metal are generally very aware of that fact | 18:17 |
| mordred | so, you're right in that there is a mismatch | 18:17 |
| mordred | but it's also a thing that's super important for _openstack_ to succeed | 18:18 |
| sdague | mordred: even if you have one cloud that has kvm and baremetal that are just matched by flavors? | 18:18 |
| mordred | and I'm not sure how to get out of the impasse | 18:18 |
| mordred | sdague: yes | 18:18 |
| mordred | sdague: it works perfectly fine and is not confusing | 18:18 |
| lifeless | up | 18:18 |
| lifeless | yup | 18:18 |
| mordred | users do not expect baremetal to support live migration | 18:18 |
| mordred | in fact | 18:18 |
| lifeless | they'd totally love if it did | 18:18 |
| sdague | oh, sure | 18:18 |
| mordred | users don't get to touch live migration | 18:18 |
| mordred | that's an admin ting | 18:18 |
| mordred | and interop for admins is a silly thing | 18:18 |
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| jroll | mordred: so the issue that brought this up was floating IPs | 18:18 |
| lifeless | mordred: I don't think its a silly thing | 18:19 |
| mordred | end users are the ones who are the problem | 18:19 |
| sdague | right, but security groups and floating ips are a bit different | 18:19 |
| jroll | which we don't support (yet) | 18:19 |
| mordred | well, floating ips are a terrible idea in general | 18:19 |
| lifeless | mordred: admins are also end users | 18:19 |
| mordred | and we should stop having them be the default way we describe openstack | 18:19 |
| sdague | mordred: ok, that's fine, but it's a thing right now | 18:19 |
| mordred | they are a VERY specific tool | 18:19 |
| mordred | for a VERY specific use case | 18:19 |
| mordred | and nobody booting bare metal with openstack has that use case | 18:19 |
| sdague | and no one is spending energy to unwind that, regardless of how many times they say it's terible | 18:19 |
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| mordred | sdague: there is nothing to unwind - it's a mentality | 18:20 |
| mordred | not-floating-ip works great | 18:20 |
| jroll | mordred: wait, why would floating IPs be useless for bare metal? (not to derail) | 18:20 |
| mordred | 14 of the 17 public clouds I have accounts on do not-floating-ip by default | 18:20 |
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| mordred | jroll: why would you boot bare metal and then put it behind nat? | 18:20 |
| jroll | mordred: active/passive LB | 18:20 |
| mordred | jroll: no, that's not a floating ip use case | 18:21 |
| jroll | I don't want to get into why flips are bad, thoguh | 18:21 |
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| jroll | ok sure, let's not sidetrack | 18:21 |
| mordred | yah. I'm just saying - there are interop problems | 18:21 |
| mordred | for sure | 18:21 |
| mordred | many of them | 18:21 |
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| mordred | but "this bare metal flavor does not do all of the weird virt things" is not one of them | 18:21 |
| lifeless | so I don't get this specific issue; deployers can configure neutron without floating ips | 18:21 |
| lifeless | so its not like all neutron clouds are the same here | 18:22 |
| mordred | many clouds do, in fact | 18:22 |
| mordred | and they are the most pleasant to use | 18:22 |
| sdague | mordred: there is a thing to unwind, because right now floating ips are the way a lot of people have been told to do things, it's in our docs and testing everywhere (because it works consistently across nova-net / neutron) | 18:22 |
| lifeless | bare metal can't be configured with it, but its still within the space of how normal neutron kvm clouds will be | 18:22 |
| mordred | sdague: fair. I would totally spend ALL of my energy on that if I knew where to poke | 18:23 |
| mordred | becuase it's quite literally the worst thing we tell users | 18:23 |
| hogepodge | mordred: so is this "get me an ip" api happening in mitaka? | 18:23 |
| mordred | hogepodge: get me an ip is a little different | 18:23 |
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| mordred | floating-ip-as-only-access method is not scalable, and is also a bad user experience - but it's the default way we tell people to deply | 18:23 |
| hogepodge | mordred: it abstracts the giving an ip to a thing to make it possible for us to say "don't use floating ip" with a straight face | 18:23 |
| jroll | so. going back. we aren't going to solve this in an ad-hoc conversation here | 18:23 |
| mordred | except that there are only 3 public clouds that force you to use floating ips | 18:24 |
| mordred | and one of them is going away | 18:24 |
| jroll | but I think we need to decide definitively if nova's API is the compute api or the virt api | 18:24 |
| mordred | so it'll be down to 2 public clouds that force floating ips | 18:24 |
| sdague | ok, so there are 2 things | 18:24 |
| mordred | so I'm not sure what needs to pushed on | 18:24 |
| jroll | and depending on the answer to that, figure out where to go from there | 18:24 |
| mordred | but I'd like to push on it | 18:24 |
| hogepodge | mordred: yes, but there's no consistent way to know how you get a public ip, which is problematic from an interop side | 18:24 |
| hogepodge | regardless of virtual or bare metal | 18:24 |
| sdague | jroll: or, if we have a discovery mechanism of capabilities on a compute | 18:24 |
| mordred | capabilities discovery would be lovely | 18:25 |
| sdague | which would let you inspect a compute, and it tell you features that are going to work on it | 18:25 |
| hogepodge | anything the community agrees upon would be lovely | 18:25 |
| jroll | sdague: it's beyond that when we're at the point of magnum having its own scheduler, and ironic soon to have its own scheduler | 18:25 |
| sdague | jroll: why? | 18:25 |
| mordred | sdague: yah. to take this example, I'd love it if I could ask the CLOUD "hey, do I need a floating ip to route to the internet" | 18:25 |
| mordred | sdague: rather than a config file | 18:25 |
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| sdague | mordred: ok, that's a bit different | 18:26 |
| hogepodge | sorry to hijack the conversation, but it's something we spent a lot of time wringing our hands about again in the defcore meeting yesterday | 18:26 |
| mordred | I honestly don;'t think magnum is the same thing at all | 18:26 |
| sdague | I litterally mean POST /servers => UUID | 18:26 |
| sdague | GET /servers/UUID/capabilities | 18:26 |
| sdague | security-groups: "False" | 18:26 |
| jroll | sdague: because then nova has a virt scheduler, not a compute scheduler, so that's two components that are different depending on the type of compute | 18:26 |
| mordred | sdague: sure. that would be great | 18:26 |
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| mordred | sdague: although GET /servers/capabilities floating-ips: not-needed would be great too - if it's a cloud-wide and not specific flavor related capability | 18:27 |
| jroll | sdague: also GET /servers/UUID/capabilities doesn't help when POST /servers can accept a security group to use | 18:27 |
| mordred | that is quite true | 18:27 |
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| sdague | presumably you have dedicated flavors for baremetal | 18:28 |
| sdague | that could have capabilities | 18:28 |
| mordred | sdague: so, it's actually GET /flavors/UUID/capabilities | 18:28 |
| sdague | mordred: yeh | 18:29 |
| mordred | so - I think it's all three, tbh | 18:29 |
| mordred | the cloud has capabilities | 18:29 |
| mordred | that are global | 18:29 |
| jroll | mhmm | 18:29 |
| mordred | flavors have capabilities that have to do with the backing used for that flavor | 18:29 |
| sdague | mordred: it does, but I think that's a different scope | 18:29 |
| mordred | and instances have capabilites potentially | 18:29 |
| devananda | mordred: and nodes have capabilities which are matched against the flavor as well | 18:30 |
| sdague | instances always have capabilities, they might just be inherited from above | 18:30 |
| mordred | sdague: the cloud ones are EASY though - since it could totally be a fairly static document similar to catalog tng | 18:30 |
| SpamapS | devananda: ditto.. not sure what is being driven at here. a) floating ip problems, b) scheduler divergence, c) capabilities? | 18:30 |
| mordred | yah | 18:30 |
| sdague | mordred: if you can come up with the right enum for it | 18:30 |
| mordred | SpamapS, devananda: this started being about the mismatch between virt and ironic backends for nova and how to deal with the fact that ironic does not do the same things as kvm | 18:30 |
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| devananda | SpamapS: I think it started with tempest test coverage, and somehow went into "is nova the compute api or the hypervisor api" | 18:30 |
| sdague | I think we always assumed that would be part of the JSON home discovery | 18:30 |
| mordred | and nova is strict abot other drives that do not support things | 18:30 |
| mordred | sdague: I mean, I HAVE a cloud config json structure right now | 18:31 |
| mordred | sdague: that musst be known about each cloud | 18:31 |
| sdague | mordred: ok | 18:31 |
| mordred | sdague: it's just you don't get it from openstack | 18:31 |
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| mordred | but if you don't have it | 18:31 |
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| mordred | you have to construct it yourself | 18:31 |
| mordred | or make very wrong assumptions | 18:31 |
| mordred | like libcloud does | 18:31 |
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| devananda | mordred: right. which suggests that nova is strictly about hypervisors, and not about compute | 18:32 |
| devananda | s/nova/the nova api/ | 18:32 |
| mordred | devananda: right. that's what sdague was suggesting | 18:32 |
| mordred | however, as you know, I think that is the wrong choice for our users | 18:32 |
| devananda | cool. i didn't see that in the backscroll, but I agree | 18:32 |
| mordred | bceause the abstractions that most people actually use | 18:32 |
| mordred | are very nicely covered by nova | 18:32 |
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| devananda | mordred: but nova _also_ has a lot of virt specific things in the API | 18:33 |
| devananda | which most users dont use | 18:33 |
| mordred | sure | 18:33 |
| mordred | I don't care about htose | 18:33 |
| sdague | well, what I'm saying is this is the API we have, and we're not going to just throw 75% of it out for 1 driver | 18:33 |
| devananda | it's sort of like we need a subset of the nova api to be "the compute api" | 18:33 |
| mordred | I'm not saying throw it out | 18:33 |
| sdague | but if we have a graceful way to know "don't do that" | 18:33 |
| sdague | it's fine | 18:33 |
| devananda | and then there's this divergence between hypervisor, container, and baremetal specific parts | 18:33 |
| mordred | I still think containers are a redherring here | 18:33 |
| mordred | but we can come back to that | 18:34 |
| sdague | mordred: I agree, containers are a red herring | 18:34 |
| * jroll is curious what happens when someone just does it anyway, against the advice of a capabilities framework thing | 18:34 | |
| mordred | what you get from magnum is not anything like a vm or baremetal | 18:34 |
| devananda | which opens the question -- should those other 3 parts be discoverable via capabilities? part of the same API endpoint? or should they be different endpoints for targeting specific workloads? | 18:34 |
| mordred | jroll: they get an error | 18:34 |
| sdague | jroll: you don't get the trademark | 18:34 |
| sdague | if you don't care about that, fine | 18:34 |
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| jroll | sdague: you don't get a trademark if your users ignore the capabilities api and call volume-attach anyway? | 18:34 |
| mordred | if we remove the trademark from a functional openstack cloud because the cloud ADDS ironic, we've missed the point of something | 18:34 |
| sdague | jroll: oh, no if they call it anyway, then the get a 400 badrequest | 18:35 |
| mordred | yah | 18:35 |
| mordred | what sdague said | 18:35 |
| sdague | we told them, you can't do that | 18:35 |
| mordred | devananda: what other three parts? | 18:35 |
| devananda | mordred: hah. well. if your cloud only provides baremetal, then several parts of the nova API are going to be non-functional, and afaik, you won't pass defcore | 18:35 |
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| devananda | so, yea | 18:35 |
| sdague | ok, so concrete things | 18:35 |
| jroll | sdague: ok, so the api also enforces those capabilities. so we'd be in a better spot today | 18:35 |
| mordred | devananda: yes | 18:36 |
| sdague | jroll: yeh, it's got to be consistent all around | 18:36 |
| mordred | I agree with that | 18:36 |
| jroll | yep | 18:36 |
| sdague | it would be like jsonschema enforcement | 18:36 |
| mordred | because you are not generally interoperable | 18:36 |
| sdague | way up in the first stage API layer, you'd never get to the driver | 18:36 |
| mordred | but, if you _ARE_ interoperable and also have some cool baremetal flavors, that's pretty awesome | 18:36 |
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| jroll | yeah, got it | 18:36 |
| sdague | ok, so anyway concrete things | 18:36 |
| mordred | sdague: yah | 18:36 |
| sdague | 1) ironic triggers the fact that this capabilities API is kind of needed, soonish. Sadly didn't really expose at summit. | 18:37 |
| hogepodge | devananda: you can contest those things to the defcore committee on the capabilities list. we like to hear feedback like that | 18:37 |
| sdague | 2) mordred's "connect me to a freaking cloud" API would be better to exist, instead of "you need a floating ip to use this cloud" | 18:38 |
| mordred | +10000 | 18:38 |
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| devananda | hogepodge: too many things to track already. but I'll try. also note that ironic doesn't have a user-facing API, so there's nothing inherent in the project for defcore to measure. | 18:38 |
| sdague | mordred: part of my pushing back on we should discover if a cloud needs floating IPs, is it seems like the wrong question | 18:38 |
| mordred | sdague: I agree totally | 18:38 |
| sdague | how do I ssh to my instance | 18:39 |
| mordred | sdague: I think the way we present that whole thing is wrong - but I figured a short win would be discovering if the cloud makes me need them | 18:39 |
| sdague | that's the question we want to answer | 18:39 |
| mordred | sdague: because the right answer is going to take longer | 18:39 |
| mordred | sdague: that's right | 18:39 |
| hogepodge | devananda: ok, good to know. We have bare metal clouds trying to pass, and I want them to pass | 18:39 |
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| mordred | "nova boot --make-it-public" "nova boot --keep-it-private" | 18:39 |
| jroll | hogepodge: that's interesting, feel free to involve me in those topics :) | 18:39 |
| devananda | hogepodge: awesome. didn't realize that. I'll start paying more attention (and pls dont hesitate to poke me if I'm needed and absent) | 18:40 |
| sdague | mordred: so that's the thing, what's the actual payload for that? Because we should start with that and figure out what it would need to be in both neutron and nova net land. And we could make changes for that. | 18:41 |
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| sdague | that seems concrete | 18:41 |
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| mordred | sdague: yah. so, I have some thoughts on moving that forward | 18:42 |
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| sdague | mordred: you should write down those thoughts into a document somewhere so we can make it move forward :) | 18:42 |
| mordred | sdague: k. I will do that as a next step then | 18:42 |
| sdague | mordred: awesome, thank you | 18:42 |
| mordred | sdague: because honestly, there's I thnk maybe 3 items that have to smush around | 18:43 |
| mordred | sdague: maybe I should start with an etherpad so we can hack on it before it goes into spec hell land? | 18:43 |
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| sdague | sure, that's fine, a thing that's structured and a bit more permanent that irc scrollback | 18:44 |
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| mordred | to be fair - our IRC scrollback from 2010 still exists | 18:44 |
| hogepodge | jroll: devananda: thanks | 18:44 |
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| sdague | mordred: sure, but it has fart jokes all through it as well | 18:44 |
| sdague | signal vs. noise and all | 18:44 |
| mordred | sdague: that's an excellent point | 18:44 |
| mordred | like the termie goatse paste | 18:44 |
| mordred | sdague, devananda, jroll: so, I am curious - even though I dislike fips - what is the problem with ironic and floaters? | 18:45 |
| jroll | random thought: it might be fun to throw eavesdrop logs into ELK or codesearch or something | 18:45 |
| mordred | it seems like it would be fairly easy to implement | 18:45 |
| mordred | jroll: ++ | 18:45 |
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| devananda | mordred: I believe the issue is that the host OS has to understand that it has the IP | 18:46 |
| jroll | right, there isn't a hypervisor to connect the things | 18:47 |
| devananda | for some hosts, that may work, but we can't guarantee it on all hosts | 18:47 |
| mordred | uhm | 18:47 |
| devananda | *for some host operating systems ... | 18:47 |
| mordred | but that also doesn't work for vms | 18:47 |
| mordred | that's why I hate them | 18:47 |
| jroll | with the new world of neutron configuring bare metal switches we could make it work, I think | 18:47 |
| mordred | the host OS _NEVER_ knows about the floating IP | 18:47 |
| jroll | on vms does the hyp not just connect it into existing interfaces? | 18:47 |
| mordred | they are NAT done one layer away | 18:47 |
| mordred | NO | 18:48 |
| mordred | that's why they're terrible | 18:48 |
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| devananda | mordred: wha? | 18:48 |
| mordred | right? | 18:48 |
| sdague | yeh, they are like mordred says | 18:48 |
| mordred | this is what I'm talking about | 18:48 |
| devananda | I thought in VM land, that the host _OS_ knew, but the guest VM did not | 18:48 |
| sdague | the NAT is outside the host | 18:48 |
| devananda | omg .. | 18:48 |
| mordred | they are like putting a linksys router in your living room | 18:48 |
| jroll | wat | 18:48 |
| devananda | so much for sanity | 18:48 |
| sdague | right, sorry, the host knows in the base case, the guest does not | 18:48 |
| sdague | except if you have network nodes | 18:48 |
| mordred | it _may_ know in the base case | 18:48 |
| mordred | yah | 18:48 |
| mordred | network nodes are the ones that know | 18:48 |
| mordred | the host does not necessarily konw | 18:49 |
| sdague | then all your traffic is routing to network nodes | 18:49 |
| sdague | right | 18:49 |
| mordred | and the guet never does | 18:49 |
| sdague | which is the neutron case | 18:49 |
| jroll | huh. | 18:49 |
| mordred | yup | 18:49 |
| devananda | so then, in theory, it may be possible with the neutron work folks are doing now | 18:49 |
| mordred | yah | 18:49 |
| sdague | right | 18:49 |
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| jroll | "network nodes" meaning neutron agents or a different thing? | 18:49 |
| mordred | of course, I consider neutron to be the case case | 18:49 |
| devananda | to folks earlier comments that VMs support things that baremetal never possibly will -- I disagree | 18:49 |
| mordred | and nova-net to be a hanger-on outlier | 18:49 |
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| jroll | yeah, it's definitely possible in the future | 18:49 |
| devananda | every time someone says something like "baremetal will never be able to do live migrate" I bite my tongue a little | 18:49 |
| jroll | I guess I don't know enough details to say if it's possible now | 18:49 |
| sdague | right, the nova-net multihost thing is legacy, and that's fine | 18:50 |
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| devananda | because there are folks pushing ALL of this down the stack | 18:50 |
| devananda | it's just a matter of time | 18:50 |
| jroll | devananda: "in the general case, baremetal will never be able to do live migrate" | 18:50 |
| jroll | like whitebox stuff | 18:50 |
| jroll | and maybe never is a bad word, but rather foreseeable future | 18:50 |
| sdague | jroll: right, it might just be configuration. Honestly, on the grenade side, did you all turn on neutron here? | 18:50 |
| devananda | jroll: with support from an agent inside the host (which, I know, isn't the general case) it still may be possible | 18:50 |
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| sdague | because that might kind of make this particular point moot | 18:51 |
| jroll | sdague: ironic in devstack doesn't work without neutron, so yeah it's there | 18:51 |
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| jroll | devananda: sure :) | 18:51 |
| jroll | I'll play with the flips thing, I guess | 18:52 |
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| sdague | ok, so it would be worth further investigation about why floating ips don't work | 18:52 |
| sdague | because, I kind of think they should there | 18:52 |
| mordred | yah | 18:52 |
| jroll | yeah, stacking now | 18:52 |
| mordred | there is nothing about ironic that should not work with this | 18:52 |
| jroll | I didn't realize it was all above the host | 18:52 |
| sdague | so we should at least have a reason why before we turn it off in tempest | 18:53 |
| mordred | same with security groups and network nodes, yeah? | 18:53 |
| sdague | yeh | 18:53 |
| sdague | pretty sure | 18:53 |
| jroll | there's no "nova attach-floating-ip" thing either? | 18:53 |
| mordred | jroll: use neutron | 18:53 |
| sdague | it's not an attach | 18:53 |
| jroll | right | 18:53 |
| jroll | ok | 18:53 |
| jroll | mordred: what I meant was "do I need to tell nova anything" - sounds like not | 18:53 |
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| mordred | nova boot -> server-id ; neutron port-list (find port-id of ip attached to server-id) ; neutron floatingip-create port-id=port-id-of-server | 18:54 |
| mordred | is how you boot a machine and then put a floating ip on it | 18:54 |
| jroll | yep | 18:54 |
| jroll | TIL | 18:54 |
| mordred | although - I have a patch coming that hopefully will add the port-id to the nova server record | 18:55 |
| mordred | so that the second step can be skipped | 18:55 |
| mordred | well, I have the patch written :) but now I have to write the spec :) | 18:55 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack-dev/grenade/blob/a84011480dded5692c8bfa85f455ea676a221fb4/projects/60_nova/resources.sh#L81-L93 | 18:55 |
| sdague | that works in either neutron or nova-net | 18:55 |
| mordred | it does | 18:55 |
| sdague | I don't know exactly what the openstack ip add translates into in that case | 18:56 |
| sdague | but it was done that way in the grenade resource scripts for a reason | 18:56 |
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| mordred | in nova it's floating-ip-add and in neutron it's floatingip-attach iirc | 18:56 |
| mordred | jroll: follow the auto_ip path from here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/shade/tree/shade/openstackcloud.py#n3154 | 18:57 |
| mordred | if you want to see it in python calls | 18:57 |
| jroll | mordred: nope, I'm following grenade because that's ultimately what needs to work | 18:57 |
| mordred | jroll: awesome | 18:57 |
| mordred | then follow that! | 18:58 |
| jroll | heh | 18:58 |
| * mordred groks problem space now | 18:58 | |
| jroll | I mean, I'd also like shade to work but I assume one follows the other | 18:58 |
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| mordred | sdague: btw - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240988/ - I still have a TON of work to do wrt getting microversions sorted and so that tempest isn't unhappy with the additional content (which I think also menas microversion stuff) | 18:59 |
| sdague | well, I just tried to be a good citizen and use openstack cli as much as possible in grenade | 18:59 |
| mordred | ++ | 18:59 |
| mordred | sdague: I appreciate that about you | 19:00 |
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| sdague | mordred: thx :) | 19:01 |
| sdague | mordred: yeh, that's a microversion bump | 19:01 |
| jroll | sdague: is there anything I can do to help with the capabilities thing, assuming that's what we want to do? | 19:01 |
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| sdague | mordred: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversions.html should give you some approaches to making that change work that way | 19:01 |
| jroll | sdague: mordred devananda also, thanks for the conversation, that was good stuff | 19:02 |
| sdague | jroll: yeh, thanks as well | 19:02 |
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| mordred | sdague: sweet | 19:03 |
| sdague | mordred: it has a lot of code examples on various ways to do those changes | 19:03 |
| mordred | sdague: I was going to write the spec before I did another pass on the patch - I mostly wanted the patch there so that talking about the spec could be done with details | 19:03 |
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| mordred | sdague: woot | 19:03 |
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| sdague | jroll: so, honestly, the answer is probably yes there are things to do to drive this one. Right now I'm still just barely over jetlag, and trying to get some other chunks done before unpacking the service catalog stuff next week with anne. So it's a thing I think we need to come back to | 19:05 |
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| sdague | knowing whether or not ironic can support floating ips / sec groups via neutron would be really good input before we figure out it's priority | 19:06 |
| devananda | indeed. thanks, all, good stuff. though I'm not sure how I feel knowing that fips are done outside the host, even for VMs... | 19:06 |
| devananda | but right now, I need to head to the airport. back in an hour. | 19:06 |
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| jroll | sdague: indeed, I'm also quite busy and wouldn't be able to get to it for a while | 19:06 |
| jroll | I'll keep bouncing thoughts around my brain, though; I've also been meaning to make a list of things that don't work with irnoic driver | 19:07 |
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| mordred | sdague, devananda, jroll: I'm going to work with hodgepodge on the defcore side of the ip thing, and also with sdague on writing up a doc about moving forward with get-me-an-ip | 19:15 |
| jroll | mordred++ | 19:15 |
| devananda | mordred: cheers | 19:15 |
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| jroll | sdague: huh. flips totally work in devstack | 19:24 |
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| jroll | must be the security group failing the deploy (needs http), weird though given the logs looked like it failed to create the floating ip | 19:25 |
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| jlvillal | sdague, On the grenade plugin. Do I need to do the full devstack plug-in work? Or can I just do the grenade plugin? I do want to set it up as a devstack plug-in too. | 19:28 |
| sdague | jlvillal: they should be able to be independent | 19:29 |
| jlvillal | sdague, Thanks. | 19:29 |
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| sdague | dtroyer_zz: you about? | 20:07 |
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| mriedem | sdague: mtreinish: ^ voting filtering from the uncategorized bugs page | 20:12 |
| mriedem | i hope that works | 20:12 |
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| dtroyer_zz | sdague: I am at last | 20:12 |
| dtroyer_zz | post-conf-bug-suckage subsiding | 20:12 |
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| sdague | dtroyer_zz: ok, as I had no idea when folks were getting back, I self approved a thing today, which I at least wanted you aware of | 20:13 |
| sdague | dtroyer_zz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241698/ | 20:13 |
| sdague | hopefully commit message is self explanatory | 20:13 |
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| sdague | tl;dr - all our wheelhouse building code was just getting in the way | 20:14 |
| sdague | because pip now just magically does it itself | 20:15 |
| dtroyer_zz | sdague: good move… thanks | 20:15 |
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