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| chandankumar | mtreinish: andreaf Hello | 14:07 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: hi | 14:07 |
| chandankumar | mtreinish: andreaf Can we get a new tag build 15.1 for tempest? | 14:07 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: in RDO, some of the tests does not work, so we have to backport some patches to tempest-15.0 https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:ocata-rdo-patches | 14:09 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: which we donot want to carry it, so is it possible to get a new release of tempest? | 14:09 |
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| andreaf | chandankumar: we'll have one on April 4th for the Mitaka EOL | 14:11 |
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| andreaf | chandankumar: but I guess it would be possible to have an intermediate one | 14:11 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: that will work, thanks :-) | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tempest master: Nova: Move _Websocket class to a common place https://review.openstack.org/447557 | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/tempest master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/451073 | 15:05 |
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| mriedem | sdague: is this a known issue? http://logs.openstack.org/20/439520/13/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-devstack-plugin-ceph-ubuntu-xenial/f33c815/console.html#_2017-03-24_11_37_29_787351 | 15:13 |
| sdague | mriedem: never seen that before | 15:14 |
| jordanP | mriedem, its because Tempest removed support for Cinder v1 but cinder tests inherits from tempest base class | 15:14 |
| jordanP | Tempest base class remove that attribut a couple of hours/days ago | 15:15 |
| jordanP | *removed | 15:15 |
| mriedem | ah looks like it was fixed on 3/27 | 15:15 |
| mriedem | this was a run from 3/24 | 15:15 |
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| smcginnis | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/39c7165e33ccbb6e2f4bee63cac9e4cbcb7ba23c,n,z | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tempest master: Add test creating a protected image https://review.openstack.org/435779 | 15:16 |
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| frickler | mriedem: yes, I was also confused and even created a bug report before noticing it was fixed ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1676802 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1676802 in Cinder "gate-tempest-dsvm-full-devstack-*-ubuntu-xenial jobs failing in cinder tempest test" [Undecided,Fix released] | 15:24 |
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| lbragstad | curious if any folks here would like to review a devstack change to not install keystone's policy file - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450818/ | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | any reviews would be greatly appreciated | 16:14 |
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| mtreinish | lbragstad: +A | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish nice - thank you | 16:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-dev/devstack master: Test using UCA for libvirt 2.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/451492 | 17:29 |
| clarkb | sdague: ianw ^ is major hacks trying newer libvirt from uca if that is even feasbile | 17:29 |
| clarkb | but apparently using newer versions of things might help get more traction from upstream libvirt | 17:30 |
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| sdague | clarkb: 2.5.0 has some other terrible issue | 17:38 |
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| sdague | at least in packaging, there was something reported recently | 17:39 |
| clarkb | ugh | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/devstack master: Remove installation of keystone policy file https://review.openstack.org/450818 | 17:45 |
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| sdague | clarkb: well it's a little hard to get the sense of things off of point statistics for the osc in venv, but it does look like it's saving time | 17:51 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451120/ | 17:51 |
| sdague | you spend a little more in pip installs, and for things like ovh that are io bound that hurts some on setup | 17:51 |
| sdague | but for most of the providers it seems like a win | 17:51 |
| clarkb | cool (and als :( that python works this way) | 17:52 |
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| clarkb | sdague: if I fix the merge conflict on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447119/ any chance you'd be willing to give that a go? | 17:52 |
| sdague | clarkb: sure | 17:53 |
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| sdague | we should watch that one though, because I suspect a non zero chance that it will cause other problems | 17:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-dev/devstack master: Enable Kernel Samepage Merging by default https://review.openstack.org/447119 | 17:55 |
| clarkb | we both picked the same location in stackrc to add new configs :) | 17:55 |
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| sdague | heh | 17:56 |
| sdague | well mine was right before the SCREEN vars, I have an excuse :) | 17:57 |
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| EmilienM | clarkb: did you measure the memory change before/after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447119 ? | 18:07 |
| EmilienM | clarkb: i'm looking at it for tripleo ci | 18:07 |
| clarkb | EmilienM: ya did some not scientific measuring | 18:07 |
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| clarkb | EmilienM: its in the comments of that change | 18:07 |
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| EmilienM | ah ok | 18:07 |
| clarkb | I think it reduced peak mem usage by about 150MB | 18:08 |
| EmilienM | 150MB, I see it now. Thanks | 18:08 |
| clarkb | EmilienM: it will likely only help you if you boot VMs with the same base image at the same time (tempest does this with cirros) | 18:08 |
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| EmilienM | right | 18:08 |
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| clarkb | I think it may also help magnum and trove quite a bit since they boot multiple large VMs iirc | 18:09 |
| EmilienM | ok, thx for the details | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/tempest master: Rename Cinder V2 API tests https://review.openstack.org/450411 | 18:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/tempest master: Move Cinder admin tests into unversioned path https://review.openstack.org/450414 | 18:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Uday T Kumar proposed openstack/tempest master: Keystone v3 extension os-ep-filter api testcases https://review.openstack.org/447188 | 18:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/tempest master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/451073 | 18:52 |
| clarkb | sdague: properly reviewing the venv thing and it only takes < 20 seconds to install. The other thing that will help us there is wheel caches on the local machine (for all the python-*clients), so you may want to repalce env with sudo in the venv step just to share caches | 18:52 |
| sdague | ah... interesting thought | 18:57 |
| sdague | clarkb: so ... forwarned it's like all the hacks | 18:58 |
| sdague | but http://paste.openstack.org/show/604722/ | 18:58 |
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| clarkb | sdague: nice, can you make it not truncate? | 19:01 |
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| sdague | yeh, I think it was just the way I ran journal | 19:01 |
| sdague | journalctl | 19:01 |
| sdague | give me a second to hack up this commit message | 19:01 |
| sdague | http://paste.openstack.org/show/604723/ | 19:03 |
| sdague | yeh, journalctl without a pager ends up truncating lines to console width... shrug? | 19:03 |
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| clarkb | I can imagine that ^ would make debugging openstack so much easier for so many people | 19:04 |
| clarkb | (exciting) | 19:04 |
| sdague | yep | 19:04 |
| sdague | it's so far away from mergable | 19:04 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/451525 | 19:04 |
| clarkb | but at least it proves its feasible | 19:04 |
| sdague | yeh, I mostly wanted to figure out how bad it would be | 19:04 |
| clarkb | and we don't ahve to run a local lgostash and elasticsearch everywhere for simple case | 19:04 |
| sdague | and encode some things I learned into a patch | 19:04 |
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| sdague | clarkb: I'm surprised that oslo.log patch even passed pep8 : | 19:59 |
| sdague | :) | 19:59 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: just curious did you try running your systemd patch with keystone in uwsgi mode? | 20:14 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: I thought I had, but I'm not convinced it was fully working | 20:21 |
| sdague | clarkb: ok, so this is a slightly better iteration on things - http://paste.openstack.org/show/604733/ and using journalctl REQUEST_ID to track the requestid flow for a server create | 20:21 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: I wanted to see about this oslo.log stuff before doing that | 20:22 |
| mtreinish | sdague: ok, because I'm working on setting up my controller and when I wrote my unit files from scratch for keystone uwsgi I had to look at the uwsgi docs to get it working 100% | 20:24 |
| mtreinish | it was hanging systemctl commands when I did the simple oneshot config (although everything started properly) | 20:25 |
| mtreinish | sdague: http://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Systemd.html | 20:25 |
| sdague | mtreinish: yeh, so you need the Type=notify? | 20:26 |
| mtreinish | sdague: http://paste.openstack.org/show/604735/ is what I ended up with | 20:26 |
| mtreinish | yeah I think so | 20:27 |
| sdague | yeh, so we'll need to handle that a little more directly. But good to know | 20:28 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: you want to push patches up for that? | 20:30 |
| sdague | mtreinish: also, the logging is interesting, and the REQUEST_ID query is pretty nice | 20:30 |
| sdague | it would also make for a more compelling case for request id pass to other services | 20:30 |
| mtreinish | sdague: yeah I can, let me get some food and then I'll write something up for that | 20:31 |
| sdague | cool | 20:32 |
| mtreinish | it's better than figuring out how to get a working glance config from scratch, which is what I'm doing now | 20:32 |
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| sdague | ok, my day is about over as there is an event in pok city we're going to. I'll look in the morning for patches there. | 20:33 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: ^^^ I haven't tested that yet though | 20:51 |
| mtreinish | heh, I don't have my cloud to spin up a devstack running yet :) | 20:51 |
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| ianw | clarkb : dropped a few comments on the UCA patch | 21:11 |
| clarkb | ianw: thanks, sdague mentions that 2.5.0 is apparently bad for unrelated reasons too so that might be a dead end | 21:12 |
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| clarkb | ianw: ya its mostly a test at this point. There are definitely issues and debian supprot is one of them | 21:17 |
| clarkb | ianw: looks like it didn't break anything bceause it didn't take effect, likely have to do some extra explict enablement | 21:18 |
| ianw | yeah ... it may well make sense, similar to RDO usage | 21:19 |
| clarkb | in the past we haven't used UCA because it wasn't reliable enough | 21:19 |
| clarkb | the base distro pacakges got more vetting and care, but that may have changed I dunno | 21:19 |
| clarkb | I do know that the puppet modules and I think kolla image builds and maybe osa all use UCA though | 21:20 |
| clarkb | so as you say, may make mroe sense since its what people use | 21:20 |
| odyssey4me | there's an infra UCA mirror, FYI | 21:21 |
| odyssey4me | we got that included last year some time | 21:21 |
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| odyssey4me | and yeah, OSA has been using it since Newton | 21:21 |
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| clarkb | odyssey4me: ya thats what the change tries to use, will need to use normal UCA too for non gate use | 21:21 |
| clarkb | just have to sort it out | 21:21 |
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| clarkb | odyssey4me: do you think most deployers on ubuntu are usign it? | 21:22 |
| odyssey4me | clarkb we switched to it because of issues with libvirt, haproxy and keepalived | 21:22 |
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| odyssey4me | the standard packages in trusty were too old for Newton, but the UCA packages were at the right levels | 21:23 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: do you remember if it was xenial base libvirt specifically? and does ocata's libvirt (2.5.0) work better? | 21:23 |
| clarkb | becausewe have problems with xenial base libvirt | 21:23 |
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| odyssey4me | UCA and Xenial were close in versions when I last checked, but they will diverge over time as Xenial ages | 21:23 |
| odyssey4me | we now use it acorss all hosts and containers, because we can't be bothered dealing with nonsense | 21:24 |
| odyssey4me | *across | 21:24 |
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| clarkb | odyssey4me: its 1.3.1 vs 2.5.0 now | 21:24 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: are you using ocata uca? | 21:24 |
| odyssey4me | I think the testing of OpenStack bits with later versions effectively puts the base version in a distro in a place of uselessness | 21:25 |
| odyssey4me | yup, we're using it for our master and ocata branches | 21:25 |
| clarkb | ok so you'll be using 2.5.0 there, good to know | 21:25 |
| odyssey4me | we only use UCA for the OpenStack deps, not for OpenStack itself | 21:25 |
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| clarkb | right thats what we would be doing too | 21:25 |
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| clarkb | this is useful to hear, now to just make it work in devstack | 21:25 |
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| ianw | and basically mirrors RDO too | 21:25 |
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| odyssey4me | if there's an infra RDO mirror we'd be interested in using it | 21:26 |
| odyssey4me | same for EPEL | 21:26 |
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| odyssey4me | at least for gating | 21:26 |
| ianw | i think pabelanger is working on the rdo mirror, he was asking them to setup rsync | 21:26 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: there is epel http://mirror.dfw.rax.openstack.org/epel/ | 21:26 |
| ianw | EPEL we do have an infra mirror | 21:26 |
| ianw | but, it's a project of mine to remove epel as much as possible | 21:26 |
| odyssey4me | oh cool, I'll put some bits in to make us use that | 21:26 |
| ianw | because people don't use it in the wild | 21:27 |
| odyssey4me | oh absolutely - we'd love to be rid of it | 21:27 |
| clarkb | and ya RDO is a thing with lto sof ideas, tripleo says squid (forward proxy), there is backend work to make it better for afs mirroring like our mirrors. I also just pushed a reverse proxy change for it | 21:27 |
| clarkb | I think we may try to limp along on reverse caching proxy for it | 21:27 |
| clarkb | until such time as we can mirror more properly | 21:27 |
| odyssey4me | our deps on EPEL at the moment are mostly related to using apache/nginx with uwsgi | 21:27 |
| odyssey4me | there are a few other stragglers too | 21:28 |
| odyssey4me | ianw if there's some sort of etherpad or discussion we can join to contribute to the things needed to get into RDO, or the things needed to get it done, let me know | 21:29 |
| ianw | for epel i'd like to have it disabled, then calls will explicitly --enablerepo. that at least makes us think about what we're pulling in | 21:29 |
| odyssey4me | we have a small crew doing our CentOS work and have been struggling with those headaches | 21:29 |
| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/tempest master: Add tempest tests for Groups https://review.openstack.org/442691 | 21:29 |
| odyssey4me | clarkb on the subject of using the gating mirror or not | 21:30 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: there is an etherpad for rdo | 21:30 |
| clarkb | let me find it | 21:30 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/caching-artifacts-in-cloud-regions | 21:30 |
| odyssey4me | we do a simple routine to figure out whether the host is in nodepool or not, then changes the code path for repo activation based on that | 21:30 |
| ianw | odyssey4me: my only sticking point has really been in the base images, where we use haveged , which doesn't seem to have any equivalent. | 21:31 |
| clarkb | ya that is what I was going to do, we probably should have an explicit "this host has a mirror" setup though | 21:31 |
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| odyssey4me | after skimming through that etherpad, I find myself asking the question - what are we trying to achieve here? | 21:34 |
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| odyssey4me | I mean - is the objective to lower cost in some way (people's time, cloud storage, etc) | 21:37 |
| odyssey4me | or improve flexibility | 21:37 |
| odyssey4me | or to fix a problem of some kind - maybe some builds are too long for some people due to non-cached things? | 21:38 |
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| clarkb | ianw: ^ I think that should make it work and address the debian issue, unless debian is_ubuntu == true | 21:39 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: its to fix unreliably jobs | 21:39 |
| clarkb | I guess I could put that at the top of the etherpad | 21:39 |
| odyssey4me | clarkb context helps :) | 21:40 |
| odyssey4me | perhaps noting some of those jobs and a bit about their profiles and what typically fails would help too | 21:40 |
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| clarkb | odyssey4me: a lot of it is stuff I'm not super familiar with. I just had people show up and say "we need squid" | 21:42 |
| clarkb | and I was trying to back up and actually understand and solve the problem rather than just deploying squid | 21:42 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, in that case then perhaps they need to provide a bit more info to help understand the problem | 21:42 |
| odyssey4me | otherwise you have no hope of understanding the problem | 21:42 |
| clarkb | ++ | 21:42 |
| odyssey4me | realistically most of what is needed is already in infra | 21:42 |
| clarkb | my current undersatnding is make those failures tracked by e-r go away | 21:43 |
| odyssey4me | people just need to try harder to use the facilities already there | 21:43 |
| clarkb | (I put link to e-r graph on etherpad) | 21:43 |
| odyssey4me | 4 fails in 24 hours? | 21:44 |
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| odyssey4me | this seems a lot of effort for that failure rate | 21:44 |
| odyssey4me | but this is somewhat true, we've seen these | 21:44 |
| clarkb | possibly, I think expecting these things to not fail is reasonable though | 21:45 |
| clarkb | the software itself should fail | 21:45 |
| odyssey4me | fair enough | 21:45 |
| odyssey4me | so the issue here is that there's no AFS mirror | 21:45 |
| odyssey4me | is it not possible to make one? | 21:45 |
| clarkb | ya rdo churn is too high (potentially) | 21:46 |
| clarkb | fungi has idea of just have rdo write to their own afs cell then wed mirror that | 21:46 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, I thought as much | 21:46 |
| clarkb | which is a decent way to solve that | 21:46 |
| clarkb | buy requires people to afs | 21:46 |
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| odyssey4me | but if the churn is so high, a proxy won't help either because the cache will always be stale | 21:46 |
| odyssey4me | heh, well I think that's a marvellous idea | 21:47 |
| odyssey4me | if might just get some engineering investment into AFS ;) | 21:47 |
| clarkb | ya exactly :) | 21:47 |
| odyssey4me | *it | 21:47 |
| clarkb | but I'm willing t try things too | 21:47 |
| clarkb | the reverse procy was really straightforward | 21:47 |
| odyssey4me | so here's the thing - if a reverse proxy will help, then so will an AFS mirror | 21:48 |
| odyssey4me | they could potentially have both sources configured, and anything that's changed will be downloaded from the fresh place, but anything unchanged comes from AFS | 21:48 |
| odyssey4me | so it'll cut a large swather of the package downloads, and only the absolute latest changes will have to be externally downloaded | 21:49 |
| odyssey4me | if the AFS mirror updates once or twice a day, it'll likely mean not very much comes from outside | 21:49 |
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| clarkb | there is also an argument to be made for making upstream more reliable since I think that is in our/their control? maybe? | 21:50 |
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| odyssey4me | sure, but then you get into a cat fight about where the problem lies | 21:50 |
| odyssey4me | the fact is that the AFS mirrors were introduced to solve exactly this problem | 21:50 |
| odyssey4me | it's there, it works, and would probably reduce the failure rate significantly | 21:51 |
| odyssey4me | if they're open to an AFS cell, then even better | 21:51 |
| odyssey4me | even a reverse proxy will still call out to the source to validate whether it's fresh or not | 21:51 |
| odyssey4me | so it'll still cause failures, even if it has the package in question | 21:52 |
| clarkb | yup | 21:53 |
| clarkb | which was my initial opposition to squif | 21:53 |
| clarkb | same issue forward or reverse proxy | 21:53 |
| fungi | afs technically shouldn't suffer from that, as long as they maintain a write/read-only split similar to what we do and make atomic vos release calls at quiescence of the repo | 21:53 |
| odyssey4me | it'd be nice if some of the AFS setup was a little more automated - it appears to rely on special expertise at the moment when setting up new parts | 21:54 |
| fungi | they only need a few seconds of quiescence to squeeze in a vos release, and then can go back to writing | 21:54 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: yes because afs d9es actually require some of that :( | 21:54 |
| odyssey4me | ie if it was a little easier to get a new mirror setup, then perhaps the barrier to entry would not be perceived as high | 21:54 |
| fungi | right, afs also depends on you learning a little about kerberos | 21:55 |
| clarkb | gems and pypi mirroring required changes to how mirrors are writteb even | 21:55 |
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| fungi | well, i should say setting up your own afs cell requires learning a bit about kerberos | 21:55 |
| odyssey4me | clarkb sure, but for package mirrors I don't expect the same sort of trouble | 21:55 |
| odyssey4me | or are you thinking broader? | 21:55 |
| fungi | writing into ours doesn't, you just wrap writes in k5start | 21:55 |
| clarkb | ya so far package mirrors for ubuntu and centos have been fine | 21:56 |
| fungi | and reading from afs is anonymous, so no need to know about kerberos at all | 21:56 |
| odyssey4me | fungi sure, I would guess that we're not many steps away from automating the current manuals steps - it's just a matter of focus and time, as always | 21:56 |
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| odyssey4me | well, I think realistically there's not much harm in presenting some sort of proxy facility in each nodepool provider | 21:57 |
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| odyssey4me | I'd suggest a standard forward proxy, not reverse | 21:57 |
| clarkb | standard is prblematic | 21:57 |
| odyssey4me | then provide information about how it can be used, for anyone who wants to | 21:57 |
| clarkb | for mulyiple reasons first they are easier to abuse | 21:58 |
| clarkb | second ssl | 21:58 |
| odyssey4me | then you're not hassling with ssl/tls issues | 21:58 |
| odyssey4me | ssl/tls issues are issues for forward and reverse | 21:58 |
| clarkb | for reverse you only care to the proxy | 21:59 |
| clarkb | you dont have to mitm | 21:59 |
| odyssey4me | so you mean fetch from the source in https but serve to the client in http? | 21:59 |
| clarkb | I mean its a mitm but its explicit | 21:59 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: thats one way yes | 21:59 |
| clarkb | or just have valid cert for proxy, not also valid cert for rdo | 21:59 |
| odyssey4me | fair enough | 22:00 |
| odyssey4me | but then how does one get around the often hard-coded DNS name used to fetch these things | 22:00 |
| clarkb | explicit config like our mirrors | 22:00 |
| ianw | clarkb: heh, is_ubuntu does include debian :) for historical reasons i guess, just that ubuntu was there first | 22:00 |
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| ianw | is_fedora covers centos too | 22:01 |
| odyssey4me | ok, so you'd absolutely have to be able to change where things are fetched from | 22:01 |
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| odyssey4me | well, it could be low cost to provide the facility - let it be opt-in - ie people must change their own gate jobs and systems to use it | 22:02 |
| odyssey4me | if they don't, they live with the status quo | 22:02 |
| clarkb | ianw: darn, I will have to ponder a better way to dothat, can I depend on lsb_reelase? | 22:02 |
| odyssey4me | if it doesn't work as well for them, the AFS mirror is the best option | 22:02 |
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| fungi | ianw: if by "there" you mean in our puppet manifests, then yes it was there first | 22:03 |
| fungi | we could rename those to distro families | 22:04 |
| ianw | clarkb: yeah, ${DISTRO} ... although maybe we could have is_debian as a subset and do "! is_debian" | 22:04 |
| clarkb | ianw: also http://logs.openstack.org/92/451492/2/check/gate-devstack-dsvm-updown-ubuntu-xenial/4443f72/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=WARNING#_2017-03-29_21_54_57_731 so newer libvirt not working out of the box, guessing thats what sdague was talking about | 22:05 |
| clarkb | gonna hold the node and look more closely | 22:05 |
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| ianw | ahh, the good old replace one problem with another one :) | 22:08 |
| ianw | clarkb: assuming issues are figured out, are you thinking the trajectory of this is to be enabled in the base images? rather than just in devstack? | 22:09 |
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| clarkb | ianw: I'm not sure yet. One concern with it is there is a new repo every 6 months | 22:10 |
| clarkb | so we'd need to be on top of that and test it every 6 months... or we can just let it be a self testing thing in the further downstream tools | 22:10 |
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| ianw | yeah, interesting thing to figure out | 22:11 |
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| clarkb | interestingly the libvirt-sock socket has the same permissions on old and new libvirt installs | 22:14 |
| odyssey4me | clarkb so one thing you'll need to know is that the group name changes | 22:15 |
| clarkb | oh its libvirt vs libvirtd? | 22:15 |
| clarkb | wow | 22:15 |
| odyssey4me | yep | 22:15 |
| odyssey4me | we had to allow it to switch: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova/commit/e4a8bec6adc09b48e8b1b3af647ac6718594be18 | 22:16 |
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| odyssey4me | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova/commit/d73979760aed8d04bdc2319f4ae026c0a41ca27c | 22:17 |
| odyssey4me | I think that was it | 22:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-dev/devstack master: Test using UCA for libvirt 2.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/451492 | 22:20 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: ya I confirmed on disk and ^ updated to accomodate it | 22:20 |
| clarkb | also I think I got the debian check right this time | 22:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-dev/devstack master: Test using UCA for libvirt 2.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/451492 | 22:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/devstack master: Enable Kernel Samepage Merging by default https://review.openstack.org/447119 | 22:28 |
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| clarkb | odyssey4me: any idea why http://logs.openstack.org/92/451492/4/check/gate-devstack-dsvm-py35-updown-ubuntu-xenial-nv/a537722/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz#_2017-03-29_22_44_08_090 doesn't affect you? | 22:49 |
| clarkb | possibly this is a python3 only issue | 22:51 |
| clarkb | nope that affects python2 as well | 22:53 |
| clarkb | going to check if this is a wheel cache issue | 22:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-dev/devstack master: Test using UCA for libvirt 2.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/451492 | 23:05 |
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| clarkb | ianw: if ^ is indeed the problem then I think thats a good argument for setting up UCA in the base image and just building wheels for UCA | 23:05 |
| clarkb | will be painful to do cutovers though | 23:05 |
| ianw | oooh, that's an interesting one | 23:06 |
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| ianw | only thing is the wheel builders are not dib built nodes | 23:06 |
| clarkb | ya | 23:06 |
| clarkb | will require some thought | 23:06 |
| ianw | i've had https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424971/ out for a while to run bindep on the slaves | 23:07 |
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| odyssey4me | clarkb ah, I think you may be hitting the issue of the python lib you're using doesn't match the libvirt version it was compiled with | 23:10 |
| odyssey4me | lemme find those patches ;) | 23:10 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: in this case its python-libvirt 3.1.0 from pypi which is supposed to be compatible with really old libvirt, I think the problem is we got it from our wheel cache which built it against 1.3.1 not 2.5.0 | 23:11 |
| clarkb | so I've pushed a change to not use the wheel mirror for now | 23:11 |
| odyssey4me | libvirt-python needs to be compiled with the same version of libvirt that it will be used with | 23:11 |
| odyssey4me | we do this: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-tests/blob/master/test-vars.yml#L444 | 23:12 |
| clarkb | ya ok thats likely it then | 23:12 |
| odyssey4me | clarkb instead of removing the local wheel repo entirely, just add 'no-binary = libvirt-python' to the default section of pip.conf | 23:18 |
| odyssey4me | per https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2867 it used to not work, but now does (the bug was resolved) | 23:19 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: the problem with that is it assumes we won't have other binary incompatibilities | 23:19 |
| clarkb | odyssey4me: I just want to get it working first (even if install is a little longer) then can optimize | 23:19 |
| odyssey4me | well, we build the entire defcore stack daily and that's the only one we hit | 23:20 |
| odyssey4me | we did once have a pycparser issue too which had something to do with one of its deps, but we haven't hit that again | 23:21 |
| clarkb | thats good to know, if this current build works I will use sed to add the no-binary instead of removing wheel | 23:21 |
| odyssey4me | also, that can be a list - it doesn't have to be a single file | 23:21 |
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| odyssey4me | in fact, those test-vars are used to compile venvs across more than the defcore stack, and that's the only one we've found | 23:22 |
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| odyssey4me | so it's a pretty safe bet | 23:23 |
| chatter29 | hey guys | 23:23 |
| clarkb | ya I think most of the stuff that we build that has proper binary wheels are fairly stable like lxml and so on | 23:23 |
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| clarkb | the vast majority of our wheels are just for projects that don't publish wheels to pypi or copies of those on pypi | 23:25 |
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| clarkb | grenade also makes this tricky because newton and ocata didn't use UCA and there is the group change | 23:48 |
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| clarkb | would be fine if not for the group change :/ | 23:49 |
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