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| gmann | masayukig: yea, this week is 8 UTC. i will send mail shortly | 04:45 |
| masayukig | gmann: k, thanks | 04:46 |
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| andreaf | zhufl: do you have a minute to chat about the scenario tests after the meeting? | 08:56 |
| zhufl | andreaf: that's ok | 08:57 |
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| zhufl | andreaf: what's the biggest problem of scenario tests? | 09:01 |
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| andreaf | zhufl: there's a number of issues, the main concern is that it's hard to contribute new scenarios atm because normally contributors will take existing test and helpers as example (which is normal) and review tests based on them is a nightmare | 09:02 |
| andreaf | zhufl: scenario tests have a lot of helper methods | 09:03 |
| andreaf | zhufl: however those helpers call themselves in a long stack of calls - and the behaviour of each is not based (not only) on input parameters, but also on the class and instance state (cls. / self. variables) | 09:03 |
| andreaf | zhufl: so it's very hard to know what's going on - the code is hard to read, hard to debug and maintain | 09:04 |
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| zhufl | andreaf: oh, this sounds terrible | 09:04 |
| andreaf | zhufl: also scenario test re-implement in a slightly different way a few helpers that are available on API tests side | 09:05 |
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| andreaf | zhufl: which means that there is no consistent behaviour for instance when changing configuration flags used in the helpers | 09:05 |
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| andreaf | run_validation for instance is honoured by API tests but not by scenario tests | 09:06 |
| zhufl | andreaf: yeah, I know this, it's true | 09:06 |
| andreaf | zhufl: the plan was to work through the helpers and change them / break them down as necessary - and adapt scenario tests to use them | 09:07 |
| andreaf | zhufl: there is unnecessary class hierachy too - like there is a base scenario test class which does not do much really - but that's not such a terrible issue - it make code harder to read only | 09:08 |
| zhufl | andreaf: "there is no consistent behaviour for instance when changing configuration flags used in the helpers", do we want them to be consitant? | 09:08 |
| andreaf | zhufl: yeah I think if one set run_validation = False one would expect no test to run validation | 09:09 |
| andreaf | zhufl: we could not fix that before because run_validation was off by default in the gate - but now it is on by default so it should be fine | 09:09 |
| zhufl | andreaf: and same helper name in different class is not suggested? | 09:10 |
| andreaf | zhufl: not sure I understood your last comment, sorry | 09:10 |
| zhufl | andreaf: e.g., both ScenarioTest and NetworkScenarioTest have create_floating_ip | 09:11 |
| andreaf | zhufl: we have two create_test_server helpers one on API side and one on scenario side, I'm not sure there's a good reason for that... it's not terrible to have two - it makes maintenance a bit easier if we have one | 09:11 |
| andreaf | zhufl: heh yeah that's confusing as well | 09:12 |
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| zhufl | andreaf: I think I may begin to look into the code, but, will anyone else together? | 09:14 |
| andreaf | zhufl: we planned this work in Pike and probably in Ocata as well, but never managed to go through with it - I don't think anyone else is looking at it atm | 09:15 |
| andreaf | zhufl: but it's probably quite some work so it makes sense to have many working on it | 09:16 |
| andreaf | zhufl: if you can find other people to look into it | 09:16 |
| andreaf | zhufl: we had a list of helpers I built some time ago let me see if I can find it | 09:16 |
| zhufl | andreaf: heh yeah it has been pending for long long time | 09:17 |
| andreaf | zhufl: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y241ELbiM0djdFeII8mAiL8ZEQZwpBQlsV_2xbJUMMQ/edit#gid=0 | 09:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Zhang proposed openstack/tempest master: Remove deprecated skip decorators https://review.openstack.org/505974 | 09:18 |
| andreaf | zhufl: if this sounds to you like something you want to tackle it would be great | 09:18 |
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| zhufl | andreaf: heh I can't promise and I can just say I will try to see whether we can change it bit by bit | 09:19 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: gmann sorry i just woke up, missed all meetings | 09:20 |
| andreaf | zhufl: ok well any progress that you may be able to do there it would be very welcome | 09:20 |
| andreaf | zhufl: bit by bit is definitely the way to go | 09:20 |
| andreaf | zhufl: which is why I wanted to decouple plugins from the code base in tempest for scenario | 09:21 |
| andreaf | zhufl: otherwise every bit-change would risk to impact plugins | 09:21 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: no worries | 09:21 |
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| zhufl | andreaf: yeah, then wish we can go forward even if only a few steps | 09:23 |
| andreaf | +1 :) | 09:23 |
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| zhufl | andreaf: besides, I leave a comment for your https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498886 :) | 09:26 |
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| andreaf | zhufl, gmann: yeah we could use delete_server there - I thought it would be nice though to stop catching that exception and fail the test if cleanup fails | 09:34 |
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| chandankumar | masayukig: gmann andreaf regarding bugzar how can i help? | 10:02 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: we discussed at the PTG, during retrospective session, what went well and what we could have done better | 10:03 |
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| andreaf | chandankumar: and one of the things we could have done better was staying on top of our bug queue | 10:03 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: "staying on top" means all bugs should be traiged? | 10:04 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: we had volunteers for bug triage (you did that a lot, thank you!) but not always and that's for tempest only anyways | 10:04 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: so we felt it may be helpful to have someone "owning" or driving the bug triage | 10:05 |
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| chandankumar | andreaf: so under bugzar, we need to include tempest, os-testr openstack-health, devstack , grenade bugs also? | 10:05 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: ensure we triage new bugs, we cleanup stale ones, we react in a timely fashion to critical ones | 10:05 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: well I haven't defined the exact scope quite yet - I guess it depends on availability as well | 10:06 |
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| andreaf | since you did a lot of bug triage in pike your name came up | 10:06 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: yes, regarding volunteering i can help, it would be good if we have more than one helper. | 10:07 |
| andreaf | but I know you are already quite busy with other things so I wasn't sure whether you'd have time to drive this work as well | 10:07 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: yeah basically that would be part of the czar responsibilities - make sure that we have volunteers for bug triage, drive implementation of more automation where needed, raise attention to critical issues etc | 10:08 |
| andreaf | the idea is not that the bug czar would do all the triage and all the work at all | 10:09 |
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| chandankumar | andreaf: what about having office hour biweekly for bug traiging lead by czar so that people can help? | 10:09 |
| andreaf | I need to write down (on the wiki?) a list of responsibilites | 10:09 |
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| andreaf | yeah having office hours was one of the ideas as well - I would like in fact to take things like bugs and gate stability out of the regular meetings and move them to an office hours type of setting | 10:10 |
| chandankumar | yup that would be good. | 10:11 |
| andreaf | and reduce meetings in duration (where relevant) to urgent items to discuss | 10:11 |
| andreaf | I'm not sure about the critical review list yet | 10:12 |
| chandankumar | one stupid question how we make sure a review is critical (if a review fixes lots of things)? | 10:13 |
| andreaf | since the APAC meeting is the most attended one, we may even switch to meet every second week in the APAC TZ meeting and then have office hours the other week (or every week) for bugs discussions | 10:13 |
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| andreaf | chandankumar: not sure what you mean exactly? in the meeting today we usually have an agenda item about patches that require urgent attention | 10:14 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: I wonder what the right place for that would be | 10:15 |
| andreaf | a list in an etherpad is something that is going to become stale very quickly | 10:15 |
| andreaf | normally we review things anyways but if there is urgency on something particular is good to raise attention | 10:16 |
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| chandankumar | andreaf: yup got that urgent reviews or things which requires wide attension are critical review | 10:17 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: so you think you would have time to drive the work on bugs? | 10:18 |
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| chandankumar | andreaf: yup i can drive, regarding tempest plugins split work most of the projects are already doing that, no problem on that. | 10:18 |
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| andreaf | chandankumar: ok great thanks | 10:19 |
| chandankumar | only projects having already empty repo tempest plugin repo created i need to figure out how to deal with that | 10:19 |
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| chandankumar | and another is gabbi tempest part | 10:19 |
| chandankumar | rest is on track | 10:19 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: I need to write this a bit down to formalise it, then we can discuss the proposal in the next meetings and then we can officialise it | 10:20 |
| chandankumar | for neutron and family neutron tempest plugin repo is created https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin neutron team is taking care of that | 10:20 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: thanks for your availability to work on this | 10:21 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: for the plugin goal I think the idea of the goal champion is to help teams in the implementation - you're going further and doing the implementation yourself in many cases which is great | 10:23 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: for few projects ,i just opted to learn end to end process which is almost done | 10:23 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: but I would try and focus more on communication with the teams, like try to talk to the PTLs and see what are they're intentions / plans wrt the goal, do they need help, are there clarifications needed etc | 10:24 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: yup sure that would be nice. | 10:24 |
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| andreaf | chandankumar: what is the problem specifically with existing repos and gabbi? | 10:26 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: they want to use gabbi in order to define their tests in a yaml file to create gabbi tests and use tempest plugin to discover those tests through tempest and tempest should run able run those tests | 10:27 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: https://github.com/gnocchixyz/gnocchi/blob/master/gnocchi/tempest/plugin.py#L29 | 10:28 |
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| andreaf | there are a couple of other projects as well that use gabbi, heat and aodh | 10:30 |
| andreaf | so probably heat and all telemetry related projects | 10:30 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: total of 5 | 10:30 |
| chandankumar | 4 of telemetry + heat | 10:30 |
| andreaf | the goal is about hosting the plugin in a dedicated repo, it's not about how the code in the plugin should look like | 10:31 |
| andreaf | is there any technical issue with the use of gabbi in a tempest plugin in a separate repo? I did not expect so, but I may have missed something | 10:32 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: they are ok to host it in a seperate repo having tempest plugin with gabbi tests | 10:32 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498796/ here is all the discussions | 10:33 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: here is all the glue https://github.com/gnocchixyz/gnocchi/blob/master/gnocchi/tempest/scenario/__init__.py | 10:34 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: by the way Happy Birthday :-) | 10:35 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: yeah I was trying to understand why you said that you need to figure out how to deal with projects that use gabbi tests | 10:35 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: thank you :) | 10:35 |
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| chandankumar | andreaf: actually i have not digged too much into gabbi and gabbi-tempest (https://github.com/cdent/gabbi-tempest) so i said the same. | 10:43 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: yeah I'm not sure digging into that is needed for the goal itself - unless the team asks for help on it specifically | 10:44 |
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| chandankumar | i am keeping this on hold by this month for gabbi part, i will revisit next month with full analysis. | 10:46 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: now this page looks nice https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/split-tempest-plugins.html#project-teams | 10:48 |
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| hongbin | hi folks, i have question about the variable "TEMPEST_SERVICES", it looks a lot of projects are settting it in devstack (http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=TEMPEST_SERVICES&i=nope&files=&repos=) , but i couldn't find how this variable is used | 20:19 |
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| hongbin | could anyone confirm if this variable is still used? | 20:20 |
| hongbin | or we can remove it | 20:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Strip devstack-legacy down to base minimum https://review.openstack.org/506352 | 20:21 |
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| openstackrecheck | openstack/puppet-tripleo change: https://review.openstack.org/494947 failed because of: gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario001-multinode-upgrades: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686542 | 20:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1686542 in OpenStack-Gate "Generic job timeout bug" [Low,Confirmed] | 20:53 |
| openstackrecheck | openstack/patrole change: https://review.openstack.org/505003 failed gate-patrole-pep8-ubuntu-xenial, gate-tempest-dsvm-patrole-admin-ubuntu-xenial in the gate queue with an unrecognized error | 20:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-testr master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/503645 | 20:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-testr master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/503645 | 21:15 |
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| andreaf | sdague: I see a few leftovers of SCREEN stuff in devstack and d-g - I assume that should be safe to cleanup? specifically SCREEN_LOGDIR and some comments related to SCREEN | 21:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/tempest master: Support volume API v3 tests https://review.openstack.org/496858 | 23:29 |
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| gmann | smcginnis: i see that. let me push my approach in gerrit but may be next week early. anyways we can check the best one out of those. thanks for taking that and follow up. | 23:35 |
| smcginnis | gmann: No problem. Hopefully I'll understand better what you're saying once I see what you push up. ;) | 23:36 |
| gmann | sure | 23:36 |
| smcginnis | gmann: But hopefully it's clear I'm not copying any code with the clients. | 23:36 |
| gmann | smcginnis: actually problem was to maintain 2 class of clients even that is just inherited. i remember we revert that back in some of the client | 23:37 |
| smcginnis | gmann: Hmm. I could just switch it to only do v3, but not really comfortable with that. Even though that's where I want all deployments to be. | 23:38 |
| gmann | smcginnis: but volume client in tempest has different way to change the version in endpoints , i need to check if something tricky we need to do than we do for compute case | 23:38 |
| gmann | smcginnis: +1 for that. my idea is same. run all with v3 as default and make 1 or 2 job running all tests with v2 with version switch in endpoints | 23:39 |
| smcginnis | gmann: The extra tricky part will be as we add more microversion differences to the v3 clients. We want the base functionality the same for both v2 and v3, but be able to handle additional changes with only v3. | 23:39 |
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| gmann | smcginnis: agree on that. basic idea about microversion things on client is with new client class if it is new API or make it work in existing one. but yes new things always be on top of v3. not in v2 | 23:42 |
| smcginnis | gmann: Cool, well I'll wait to see what you propose. | 23:42 |
| gmann | smcginnis: only thing i was waiting for my approach was catalog_type for volume service. currently catalog type for each version is different in devstack | 23:43 |
| smcginnis | gmann: I do feel a little urgency on this as we deprecated v2 awhile ago in favor of v3, but really v3 is untested as it is right now. | 23:43 |
| gmann | smcginnis: and my approach is depends on that, means different catalog type for v2 and v3 do that i can switch the version in endpoint based on that | 23:43 |
| smcginnis | gmann: Ah, so whatever is registered in the catalog will be what tempest uses? | 23:44 |
| gmann | smcginnis: and as you remember there was some discussion going on to standardize the each service endpoitns and service catalog | 23:44 |
| gmann | smcginnis: yes | 23:44 |
| smcginnis | gmann: I'm a little concerned gating this on that work. Personally I'd rather see an approach like I'm proposing for now, then it can be updated later when there's less pressure. But I do get where you're coming from with that. | 23:45 |
| gmann | smcginnis: i am not sure how far that standardization things went. but i am ok to go with current way of assuming the different catalog type for each version as it is done in devstack as of now | 23:45 |
| gmann | smcginnis: let me push something up for more clarity. let's see i can make it generic like compute. i will ping you once it is there for better look and your feedback | 23:47 |
| smcginnis | gmann: Great, thanks! I'm going to have to step away for awhile, but I'll try to check in later. | 23:47 |
| gmann | smcginnis: sure thanks | 23:47 |
| gmann | smcginnis: going for vacation ? | 23:48 |
| smcginnis | gmann: No, just getting later in the day here and need to take care of some other things. ;) | 23:48 |
| gmann | smcginnis: ah. | 23:48 |
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