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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-testr master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50364500:41
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openstackgerritmegan guiney proposed openstack/tempest master: Add "list projects for a single-project user" test  https://review.openstack.org/50047000:58
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-testr master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50364501:20
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openstackgerritJeremy Zhang proposed openstack/tempest master: Fix volume group test  https://review.openstack.org/50529101:57
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-testr master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50364503:13
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-testr master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50364503:29
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masayukiggmann: do we have a qa-meeting today?04:45
gmannmasayukig: yea, this week is 8 UTC.  i will send mail shortly04:45
masayukiggmann: k, thanks04:46
openstackgerritJeremy Zhang proposed openstack/tempest master: Remove deprecated skip decorators  https://review.openstack.org/50597404:48
openstackgerritMomoka Toyota proposed openstack/tempest master: Replace "test" to "common" on Tempest Coding Guide.  https://review.openstack.org/50549005:00
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openstackgerritzhangyangyang proposed openstack/coverage2sql master: Cleanup test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50598806:01
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openstackgerritzhangyangyang proposed openstack/coverage2sql master: Cleanup test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50598806:14
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openstackgerritzhangyangyang proposed openstack/devstack-tools master: Cleanup test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50600006:27
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openstackgerritMomoka Toyota proposed openstack/tempest master: Fix the 'service' decorator path in doc  https://review.openstack.org/50549006:59
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openstackgerritzhangyangyang proposed openstack-dev/hacking master: Cleanup test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50603207:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tempest master: Remove one-line helper _delete_volume  https://review.openstack.org/50350808:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tempest master: Fix the 'service' decorator path in doc  https://review.openstack.org/50549008:14
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andreafzhufl: do you have a minute to chat about the scenario tests after the meeting?08:56
zhuflandreaf: that's ok08:57
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zhuflandreaf: what's the biggest problem of scenario tests?09:01
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andreafzhufl: there's a number of issues, the main concern is that it's hard to contribute new scenarios atm because normally contributors will take existing test and helpers as example (which is normal) and review tests based on them is a nightmare09:02
andreafzhufl: scenario tests have a lot of helper methods09:03
andreafzhufl: however those helpers call themselves in a long stack of calls - and the behaviour of each is not based (not only) on input parameters, but also on the class and instance state (cls. / self. variables)09:03
andreafzhufl: so it's very hard to know what's going on - the code is hard to read, hard to debug and maintain09:04
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zhuflandreaf: oh, this sounds terrible09:04
andreafzhufl: also scenario test re-implement in a slightly different way a few helpers that are available on API tests side09:05
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andreafzhufl: which means that there is no consistent behaviour for instance when changing configuration flags used in the helpers09:05
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andreafrun_validation for instance is honoured by API tests but not by scenario tests09:06
zhuflandreaf: yeah, I know this, it's true09:06
andreafzhufl: the plan was to work through the helpers and change them / break them down as necessary - and adapt scenario tests to use them09:07
andreafzhufl: there is unnecessary class hierachy too - like there is a base scenario test class which does not do much really - but that's not such a terrible issue - it make code harder to read only09:08
zhuflandreaf: "there is no consistent behaviour for instance when changing configuration flags used in the helpers", do we want them to be consitant?09:08
andreafzhufl: yeah I think if one set run_validation = False one would expect no test to run validation09:09
andreafzhufl: we could not fix that before because run_validation was off by default in the gate - but now it is on by default so it should be fine09:09
zhuflandreaf: and same helper name in different class is not suggested?09:10
andreafzhufl: not sure I understood your last comment, sorry09:10
zhuflandreaf: e.g., both ScenarioTest and NetworkScenarioTest have create_floating_ip09:11
andreafzhufl: we have two create_test_server helpers one on API side and one on scenario side, I'm not sure there's a good reason for that... it's not terrible to have two - it makes maintenance a bit easier if we have one09:11
andreafzhufl: heh yeah that's confusing as well09:12
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zhuflandreaf: I think I may begin to look into the code, but, will anyone else together?09:14
andreafzhufl: we planned this work in Pike and probably in Ocata as well, but never managed to go through with it - I don't think anyone else is looking at it atm09:15
andreafzhufl: but it's probably quite some work so it makes sense to have many working on it09:16
andreafzhufl: if you can find other people to look into it09:16
andreafzhufl: we had a list of helpers I built some time ago let me see if I can find it09:16
zhuflandreaf: heh yeah it has been pending for long long time09:17
andreafzhufl: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y241ELbiM0djdFeII8mAiL8ZEQZwpBQlsV_2xbJUMMQ/edit#gid=009:17
openstackgerritJeremy Zhang proposed openstack/tempest master: Remove deprecated skip decorators  https://review.openstack.org/50597409:18
andreafzhufl: if this sounds to you like something you want to tackle it would be great09:18
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zhuflandreaf: heh I can't promise and I can just say I will try to see whether we can change it bit by bit09:19
chandankumarandreaf: gmann sorry i just woke up, missed all meetings09:20
andreafzhufl: ok well any progress that you may be able to do there it would be very welcome09:20
andreafzhufl: bit by bit is definitely the way to go09:20
andreafzhufl: which is why I wanted to decouple plugins from the code base in tempest for scenario09:21
andreafzhufl: otherwise every bit-change would risk to impact plugins09:21
andreafchandankumar: no worries09:21
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zhuflandreaf: yeah, then wish we can go forward even if only a few steps09:23
andreaf+1 :)09:23
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zhuflandreaf: besides, I leave a comment for your https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498886 :)09:26
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andreafzhufl, gmann: yeah we could use delete_server there - I thought it would be nice though to stop catching that exception and fail the test if cleanup fails09:34
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chandankumarmasayukig: gmann andreaf regarding bugzar how can i help?10:02
andreafchandankumar: we discussed at the PTG, during retrospective session, what went well and what we could have done better10:03
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andreafchandankumar: and one of the things we could have done better was staying on top of our bug queue10:03
chandankumarandreaf: "staying on top" means all bugs should be traiged?10:04
andreafchandankumar: we had volunteers for bug triage (you did that a lot, thank you!) but not always and that's for tempest only anyways10:04
andreafchandankumar: so we felt it may be helpful to have someone "owning" or driving the bug triage10:05
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chandankumarandreaf: so under bugzar, we need to include tempest, os-testr openstack-health, devstack , grenade bugs also?10:05
andreafchandankumar: ensure we triage new bugs, we cleanup stale ones, we react in a timely fashion to critical ones10:05
andreafchandankumar: well I haven't defined the exact scope quite yet - I guess it depends on availability as well10:06
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andreafsince you did a lot of bug triage in pike your name came up10:06
chandankumarandreaf: yes, regarding volunteering i can help, it would be good if we have more than one helper.10:07
andreafbut I know you are already quite busy with other things so I wasn't sure whether you'd have time to drive this work as well10:07
andreafchandankumar: yeah basically that would be part of the czar responsibilities - make sure that we have volunteers for bug triage, drive implementation of more automation where needed, raise attention to critical issues etc10:08
andreafthe idea is not that the bug czar would do all the triage and all the work at all10:09
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chandankumarandreaf: what about having office hour biweekly for bug traiging lead by czar so that people can help?10:09
andreafI need to write down (on the wiki?) a list of responsibilites10:09
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andreafyeah having office hours was one of the ideas as well - I would like in fact to take things like bugs and gate stability out of the regular meetings and move them to an office hours type of setting10:10
chandankumaryup that would be good.10:11
andreafand reduce meetings in duration (where relevant) to urgent items to discuss10:11
andreafI'm not sure about the critical review list yet10:12
chandankumarone stupid question how we make sure a review is critical (if a review fixes lots of things)?10:13
andreafsince the APAC meeting is the most attended one, we may even switch to meet every second week in the APAC TZ meeting and then have office hours the other week (or every week) for bugs discussions10:13
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andreafchandankumar: not sure what you mean exactly? in the meeting today we usually have an agenda item about patches that require urgent attention10:14
andreafchandankumar: I wonder what the right place for that would be10:15
andreafa list in an etherpad is something that is going to become stale very quickly10:15
andreafnormally we review things anyways but if there is urgency on something particular is good to raise attention10:16
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chandankumarandreaf: yup got that urgent reviews or things which requires wide attension are critical review10:17
andreafchandankumar: so you think you would have time to drive the work on bugs?10:18
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chandankumarandreaf: yup i can drive, regarding tempest plugins split work most of the projects are already doing that, no problem on that.10:18
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andreafchandankumar: ok great thanks10:19
chandankumaronly projects having already empty repo tempest plugin repo created i need to figure out how to deal with that10:19
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chandankumarand another is gabbi tempest part10:19
chandankumarrest is on track10:19
andreafchandankumar: I need to write this a bit down to formalise it, then we can discuss the proposal in the next meetings and then we can officialise it10:20
chandankumarfor neutron and family neutron tempest plugin repo is created https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin neutron team is taking care of that10:20
andreafchandankumar: thanks for your availability to work on this10:21
andreafchandankumar: for the plugin goal I think the idea of the goal champion is to help teams in the implementation - you're going further and doing the implementation yourself in many cases which is great10:23
chandankumarandreaf: for few projects ,i just opted to learn end to end process which is almost done10:23
andreafchandankumar: but I would try and focus more on communication with the teams, like try to talk to the PTLs and see what are they're intentions / plans wrt the goal, do they need help, are there clarifications needed etc10:24
chandankumarandreaf: yup sure that would be nice.10:24
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andreafchandankumar: what is the problem specifically with existing repos and gabbi?10:26
chandankumarandreaf: they want to use gabbi in order to define their tests in a yaml file to create gabbi tests and use tempest plugin to discover those tests through tempest and tempest should run able run those tests10:27
chandankumarandreaf: https://github.com/gnocchixyz/gnocchi/blob/master/gnocchi/tempest/plugin.py#L2910:28
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andreafthere are a couple of other projects as well that use gabbi, heat and aodh10:30
andreafso probably heat and all telemetry related projects10:30
chandankumarandreaf: total of 510:30
chandankumar4 of telemetry + heat10:30
andreafthe goal is about hosting the plugin in a dedicated repo, it's not about how the code in the plugin should look like10:31
andreafis there any technical issue with the use of gabbi in a tempest plugin in a separate repo? I did not expect so, but I may have missed something10:32
chandankumarandreaf: they are ok to host it in a seperate repo having tempest plugin with gabbi tests10:32
chandankumarandreaf: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498796/ here is all the discussions10:33
chandankumarandreaf: here is all the glue https://github.com/gnocchixyz/gnocchi/blob/master/gnocchi/tempest/scenario/__init__.py10:34
chandankumarandreaf: by the way Happy Birthday :-)10:35
andreafchandankumar: yeah I was trying to understand why you said that you need to figure out how to deal with projects that use gabbi tests10:35
andreafchandankumar: thank you :)10:35
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chandankumarandreaf: actually i have not digged too much into gabbi and gabbi-tempest (https://github.com/cdent/gabbi-tempest) so i said the same.10:43
andreafchandankumar: yeah I'm not sure digging into that is needed for the goal itself - unless the team asks for help on it specifically10:44
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chandankumari am keeping this on hold by this month for gabbi part, i will revisit next month with full analysis.10:46
chandankumarandreaf: now this page looks nice https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/split-tempest-plugins.html#project-teams10:48
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openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Initial skeleton for devstack-tempest base job  https://review.openstack.org/50424614:00
openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Throwaway patch to check check log files  https://review.openstack.org/50584014:00
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack-dev/devstack master: Use the renamed vnc options  https://review.openstack.org/50620414:18
openstackgerritJeremy Zhang proposed openstack/tempest master: Remove deprecated APIs from volume v2 volumes_client  https://review.openstack.org/50505514:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tempest master: Compute servers via addClassResourceCleanup  https://review.openstack.org/49888614:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tempest master: Compute SG via addClassResourceCleanup  https://review.openstack.org/49888714:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tempest master: Compute volumes via addClassResourceCleanup  https://review.openstack.org/49888814:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tempest master: Remove unneeded resource_cleanups in compute tests  https://review.openstack.org/49888914:32
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* tonyb just made fun of mtreinish in #openstack-requirements and he wasn't there to see it :(15:18
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mtreinishtonyb: heh, I can fix that15:21
mtreinishI didn't know requirements had (or really needed) it's own channel...15:21
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tonybmtreinish: I think it was to prevent boring #openstack-dev15:25
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/tempest master: Integration tests for tagged attach  https://review.openstack.org/39194715:39
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1449136 in OpenStack-Gate "Pip fails to find distribution for package" [Undecided,New]16:02
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smcginnisgmann: ping - not sure if you saw my response on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496858/18:11
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/tempest master: Cap compute floating IPs tests  https://review.openstack.org/50379719:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/devstack master: Display unaccounted time in "DevStack Component Timing"  https://review.openstack.org/50189219:42
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openstackgerritTrevor McCasland proposed openstack/tempest master: idenity admin: do force use dynamic creds  https://review.openstack.org/49975620:13
openstackgerritTrevor McCasland proposed openstack/tempest master: idenity admin: pass dynamic_credentials configuration  https://review.openstack.org/49975620:14
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hongbinhi folks, i have question about the variable "TEMPEST_SERVICES", it looks a lot of projects are settting it in devstack (http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=TEMPEST_SERVICES&i=nope&files=&repos=) , but i couldn't find how this variable is used20:19
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hongbincould anyone confirm if this variable is still used?20:20
hongbinor we can remove it20:20
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Strip devstack-legacy down to base minimum  https://review.openstack.org/50635220:21
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openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Initial skeleton for devstack-tempest base job  https://review.openstack.org/50424620:36
openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Throwaway patch to check check log files  https://review.openstack.org/50584020:36
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1686542 in OpenStack-Gate "Generic job timeout bug" [Low,Confirmed]20:53
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-testr master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50364520:58
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-testr master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50364521:15
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Remove devstack-legacy base job  https://review.openstack.org/50635221:17
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-testr master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50364521:43
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andreafsdague: I see a few leftovers of SCREEN stuff in devstack and d-g - I assume that should be safe to cleanup? specifically SCREEN_LOGDIR and some comments related to SCREEN21:54
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openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Setting LOGFILE  https://review.openstack.org/50640722:21
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openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Copy over docker logs if any  https://review.openstack.org/50641122:40
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openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Setting LOGFILE  https://review.openstack.org/50640722:51
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openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Initial skeleton for devstack-tempest base job  https://review.openstack.org/50424623:21
openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Throwaway patch to check check log files  https://review.openstack.org/50584023:21
openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Setting LOGFILE  https://review.openstack.org/50640723:21
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/tempest master: Support volume API v3 tests  https://review.openstack.org/49685823:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/devstack master: lib/neutron: configure root_helper for agents  https://review.openstack.org/44093323:31
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gmannsmcginnis: i see that. let me push my approach in gerrit but may be next week early. anyways we can check the best one out of those. thanks for taking that and follow up.23:35
smcginnisgmann: No problem. Hopefully I'll understand better what you're saying once I see what you push up. ;)23:36
gmannsure23:36
smcginnisgmann: But hopefully it's clear I'm not copying any code with the clients.23:36
gmannsmcginnis: actually problem was to maintain 2 class of clients even that is just inherited. i remember we revert that back in some of the client23:37
smcginnisgmann: Hmm. I could just switch it to only do v3, but not really comfortable with that. Even though that's where I want all deployments to be.23:38
gmannsmcginnis: but volume client in tempest has different way to change the version in endpoints , i need to check if something tricky we need to do than we do for compute case23:38
gmannsmcginnis: +1 for that. my idea is same. run all with v3 as default and make 1 or 2 job running all tests with v2 with version switch in endpoints23:39
smcginnisgmann: The extra tricky part will be as we add more microversion differences to the v3 clients. We want the base functionality the same for both v2 and v3, but be able to handle additional changes with only v3.23:39
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gmannsmcginnis: agree on that. basic idea about microversion things on client is with new client class if it is new API or make it work in existing one. but yes new things always be on top of v3. not in v223:42
smcginnisgmann: Cool, well I'll wait to see what you propose.23:42
gmannsmcginnis: only thing i was waiting for my approach was catalog_type for volume service. currently catalog type for each version is different in devstack23:43
smcginnisgmann: I do feel a little urgency on this as we deprecated v2 awhile ago in favor of v3, but really v3 is untested as it is right now.23:43
gmannsmcginnis: and my approach is depends on that, means different catalog type for v2 and v3 do that i can switch the version in endpoint based on that23:43
smcginnisgmann: Ah, so whatever is registered in the catalog will be what tempest uses?23:44
gmannsmcginnis: and as you remember there was some discussion going on to standardize the each service endpoitns and service catalog23:44
gmannsmcginnis: yes23:44
smcginnisgmann: I'm a little concerned gating this on that work. Personally I'd rather see an approach like I'm proposing for now, then it can be updated later when there's less pressure. But I do get where you're coming from with that.23:45
gmannsmcginnis: i am not sure how far that standardization things went. but i am ok to go with current way of assuming the  different catalog type for each version as it is done in devstack as of now23:45
gmannsmcginnis: let me push something up for more clarity. let's see i can make it generic like compute. i will ping you once it is there for better look and your feedback23:47
smcginnisgmann: Great, thanks! I'm going to have to step away for awhile, but I'll try to check in later.23:47
gmannsmcginnis: sure thanks23:47
gmannsmcginnis: going for vacation ?23:48
smcginnisgmann: No, just getting later in the day here and need to take care of some other things. ;)23:48
gmannsmcginnis: ah.23:48
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