Thursday, 2019-09-12

bigdogstlDo you have any feedback on the etherpad to clean up the bug list https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack_qa_tempest_2019_bug_review?00:01
gmannQA office hour time00:01
gmannlet's discuss in office hour00:01
gmann#startmeeting qa00:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 12 00:01:42 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.00:01
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gmannwho all here today?00:02
masayukighi00:02
bigdogstlHello00:02
gmannthis is our first office hour in new time.00:03
gmann#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_Office_hours00:03
gmannagenda ^^00:03
gmann#topic Announcement and Action Item00:03
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gmannnothing to announce here except feature freeze is coming in this week(tomorrow) and we need to keep monitoring on gate and requirement freeze things.00:04
bigdogstlAT&T is now using tempest  as a deploy gate on all of our deployments00:04
gmannbigdogstl: perfect, that is good news00:05
bigdogstlin downstream CI thank you to all for the hardwork.00:05
masayukigbigdogstl: cool00:05
bigdogstlwe are running over 100 test every deployment with no leaks00:05
bigdogstlwe deploy at least 5 time a day00:05
bigdogstlthat is why you are see high activity from new people00:06
gmannnice, how you use Tempest. master or release tagged version ?00:06
bigdogstl1000 not 10000:06
bigdogstlmaster against ocata with some code patches00:06
bigdogstl100% containerized00:06
gmann+1 thanks for adding new intern.00:06
masayukigit's a very good usecase00:07
gmanncode patch for internal stuff or upstream bugs ?00:07
bigdogstlthey have gone back but I have full time engineers working upstream now00:07
bigdogstlmiss match of ocata and master00:07
gmannohk00:07
bigdogstlwe blacklist test that do not work in house00:07
bigdogstlnot many00:07
gmanni see.00:08
gmannlet's move00:08
bigdogstlwe are trying to get patrole working but we are seeing to many leaks for it to be a offical gate yet00:08
bigdogstlsure00:08
gmannok. let's discuss that in detail on later topic00:08
gmann#topic Train Priority Items progress00:08
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gmann#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-train-priority00:09
gmannwe will quickly go through the items which has updates to share00:09
gmannHow to make tempest-full stable - gmann00:09
gmannonly glance patch is left which i have replied the comment and pinged glance PTL to check.00:10
gmannOpenStack-health improvement - masayukig00:10
gmannmasayukig: anything to share on this ^^00:10
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masayukigheh, nope actually..00:11
gmannor bigdogstl00:11
gmannok00:11
gmannPlanning for Patrole Stable release - gmann00:11
bigdogstlno progress at this time00:11
gmannbigdogstl has list of patches for resource leake thngs00:11
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bigdogstlhttps://review.opendev.org/#/q/owner:rick.bartra%2540att.com+status:open+project:+openstack/patrole00:12
gmannbigdogstl: one question on patrole use- how many role you run ?00:12
bigdogstl10 at this time00:12
gmannadmin and member or other also00:12
bigdogstlyes00:13
bigdogstlwe have 3 admins00:13
bigdogstlfull, support read only00:14
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bigdogstland more for type of roles00:14
gmannok00:14
bigdogstlwe containerize the test suite and00:14
bigdogstlrun them in parallel00:15
gmannok00:15
bigdogstlin test labs and green field prod and serial in brown field prod00:15
bigdogstlonce we have all of the leaks done we will start address missing test in our deployments00:16
bigdogstlagain we are using master against ocata00:17
gmannbigdogstl: ok, I will get those review done by this week before my flight back to CT TZ00:17
bigdogstlbut we are moving to stein this soon00:17
gmannperfect, that was my question :)00:17
bigdogstlthank you00:17
gmannone thing i was thinking to add patrole job in Tempest gate as many of service client are being used by patrole only and it can break patrole gate. one case was volume schema change.00:17
bigdogstlthat will be nice00:17
gmannmay be as admin and member role which should cover most of the cases00:18
bigdogstlwe are finding other plugin doing or wanting to do patrole like neutron and taas00:18
gmann#action gmann to add patrole job to Tempest gate00:18
bigdogstlI agree00:18
masayukig+100:18
gmannbigdogstl: yeah we need to discuss how we extend the patrole for other services00:19
gmannit can be good discussion for coming PTG.00:19
bigdogstl+100:19
gmannbigdogstl: are you planning to come to Shanghai ?00:19
bigdogstlI will not be there in person but will try to be on the etherpad00:19
bigdogstlI wish but cost is too high for everyone00:20
gmannok. i will make sure to get you and your team into the discussion.00:20
bigdogstlthank you00:20
gmannnext item:00:20
gmannKeystone system-scope testing - gmann00:20
gmannno progress on this. I will take this up after feature freeze and IPv6 goal things.00:20
gmannDocument the QA process or todo things for releases, stable branch cut etc - gmann00:21
gmannditto00:21
gmannnew whitebox plugin for tempest  - artom00:21
bigdogstlI have look at it but not much activity00:21
gmannwe talked about it few days back and he will finish the few pending code things first and then push the spec00:22
gmannyeah00:22
gmannTempest Plugin sanity check among cross tempest plugins - masayukig00:22
gmannmasayukig: ^^00:22
bigdogstlwe are still holding our expected values downstreaam00:22
bigdogstlbut it is growing and will talk to them to see if it is a fix later00:22
masayukigThe sanity check job is already voting now. And I think it's stable.00:23
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bigdogstlI think we need a gate process for plugins00:23
bigdogstlso this gate an issue in the future00:23
bigdogstlthe x/ranger team worked on this00:23
bigdogstlwe hope they get back tot he commit comments soon00:24
bigdogstlI think we need a vision here00:24
gmannmasayukig: nice thanks.00:24
bigdogstlright now we have cookie cuter smaple but not sure if we can use tempest sheel script to drive it00:24
bigdogstlshell00:24
gmannyou mean to create tempest plugin ?00:25
bigdogstllet me get the ps00:25
gmannok00:26
bigdogstlno a tox.ini in the plugin as a gate00:26
bigdogstlhere is the doc change https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674121/00:26
bigdogstlplease review and add comments00:27
bigdogstlFelipe was trrying to get it as a tool over docs00:27
gmannbigdogstl: i did not notice that. that is good initiative.00:27
bigdogstlmay need input for direction on that00:27
gmanni will check that00:28
gmannsure00:28
gmannbigdogstl: can you add that link under sanity job item in etherpad00:28
gmannData plane tester -00:28
bigdogstlwill do00:28
gmannbigdogstl ^^00:28
artomgmann, btw, does Tempest have the same spec freeze/feature freeze thing as Nova?00:28
artomOr can I propose the spec anytime?00:28
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gmannartom: no, anytime is ok.00:29
artomgmann, aha, good to know00:30
artomMy NUMA live migration thing will land in time for Nova FF00:30
artomSo I have time to think about other things :)00:30
bigdogstlwe are just using shaker wight now and are starting small changes to do harbinger00:30
gmannartom: thanks, that is same way i plan things for Tempest.00:30
gmannbigdogstl: ok. ping us once spec is ready00:31
bigdogstlwe are allo doing long live test and signal to stop for resiliency00:31
bigdogstlrun east west and north south while playing with control plane node00:31
bigdogstlhope to get spec started soon00:31
gmannok, that is really good to add in upstream. thx00:32
gmannlet's move next00:32
gmann#topic OpenStack Events Updates and Planning00:32
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gmannNext: Shanghai Summit & PTG00:32
gmannwe need to prepare the forum and PTG planning soon.00:32
gmannmasayukig: if ok for you, can you start the etherpad for forum brainstorming ideas and advertise to ML00:33
gmannand we can use the same for PTG topic also.00:33
gmannforum brainstorming+PTG00:33
masayukiggmann: ok, I'll do00:34
gmannthx00:34
gmann#action masayukig to plan the forum brainstorming+PTG etherpad00:34
gmann#topic Sub Teams highlights00:34
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gmannTempest00:35
gmannwe have stestr version up in req freeze which need Tempest workaround due to teststool issue00:35
gmann#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681340/400:35
gmannI have workaround up and need to get this in by today or tomorrow. this is high priority for us00:36
gmannbigdogstl: ^^ this is to watch if anything break on AT&T testing00:36
gmannPatrole00:37
gmannfor patrole, we need to get those resource leak patch in and add job in tempest gate00:37
gmannanything else on patrole as I remember i mentioned few things to discuss in later topic00:38
bigdogstlOnce we have the downstream gate running we will be able to spotlight more upstream work00:38
masayukiggmann: sure, I'll put my eyes on that patch.00:38
gmannthanks00:38
bigdogstlthanks00:38
gmannone case needs to handle which i am waiting for gate result00:38
masayukigTim Burke gave a comment about the workaround00:39
gmanni see. i tried to monkey patching that but it did not work. But i can check Tim suggestion which seems much better00:41
gmannlet me test that locally and then on gate00:41
masayukig++00:41
masayukigit looks better if it works00:42
gmannyeah.00:42
gmannany other subteam to dicuss anything00:42
gmanndiscuss00:42
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gmann#topic Bug Triage00:42
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gmann#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack_qa_tempest_2019_bug_review00:43
bigdogstlWhat is the best doc for bug lifecycle00:43
bigdogstlI am not sure how to close items like00:43
gmann#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage00:44
gmannbigdogstl: this is what we follow ^^00:44
gmanni think etherpad you have created is good way to start00:44
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/devstack master: Fix worlddump log collection  https://review.opendev.org/68034000:44
bigdogstlok I will try to catch up on the process00:44
gmannonly thing we need to care about is even old bug but we should triage them if that still exist and not fixed00:45
bigdogstllike line 4100:45
bigdogstlhow do we close it00:45
bigdogstlhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1596458 - preprovision creds leaking.ISSUE/NotesThe stack trace is pointing to tempest.common.preprov_creds.PreProvisionedCredentialProvider:and this class has been movedWe also use pre-provision creds and we do not have any leak at this timePROPOSAL Close this bug00:45
openstackLaunchpad bug 1596458 in tempest "Preprovisioned cred provider may leak credentials" [High,Confirmed]00:45
gmannok, i think this should be confirmed by unit test only00:46
gmannbecause this is case of error during get creds00:47
bigdogstlwhat about a tool to see if the oslo concurrency directory have hash loack left over00:47
bigdogstlwe have a piece of code that check that and we fix them as we see them00:48
bigdogstlmust are plugin test00:48
bigdogstlbut from tempest we use preprovision and we check lock directory and set a yellow flag if it happens00:48
bigdogstlmost of the time it is negative test that do not have bullet proof tear down00:49
gmannok, that kind of stuff we can run as part of account job in the end00:49
bigdogstlanother word do not use tempest framework00:49
bigdogstl+100:50
gmannbigdogstl: can you push that code up somewhere to see and then we can add in account job?00:50
bigdogstlbut we know of not master cred leaks at this time so I would like to close this since the bug was filed against the non lib version00:50
bigdogstlgive me an action on that00:51
gmannbigdogstl: but code is not changed from old->new lb version00:51
bigdogstlwe had to add logic to not list tempest fixture locks00:51
gmann#action bigdogstl to bring up the pre-provisioned cred resource leak code00:51
bigdogstlok00:51
bigdogstlbut the test have changed over the year and i do not know of any issue00:51
bigdogstlif we close it and there are issue we will get a new bug00:52
gmannyeah, bug seems on basis of static code analysis not actual.00:52
gmannlet me check it again and then we can take action00:52
bigdogstlsome are so old the data is not very good and the person that reported it is not responding00:52
bigdogstlok00:53
gmannyeah if author does not provide required info which is must to proceed we can mark it incomplete00:53
bigdogstlif we have a well define set of bug I will try too get other engineers to address them00:53
bigdogstlok00:53
gmannbigdogstl: we have latest new bugs also for them00:53
bigdogstldoes that close it over time00:53
gmannwe used to maintain in single digit but now it is 4500:54
gmann#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New00:54
gmannthose are good to target and keep triage and add in same etherpad which we further discuss during office hour00:55
gmannthose are latest bugs reported00:55
bigdogstlI was trying to effect the 160 number before storyboard move00:55
bigdogstlok00:55
gmannyeah we should keep doing those also00:55
gmannI will get sometime to add the comment in etherpad but not in this or next week00:56
bigdogstlok00:56
gmannbut let's check one by one and add comments there00:56
gmann4 min left00:56
gmannanything on bug triage ?00:56
bigdogstlnot here00:56
gmannok, thanks00:57
gmann#topic Critical Reviews00:57
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gmannany other critical review than we already discussed00:57
masayukighttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/668823/ This should be easy one00:57
gmannmasayukig: so badges works fine ?00:58
masayukigyeah, it works now00:58
gmannperfect, i will check. thanks masayukig for getting this goal.00:58
gmann#topic Open Discussion00:59
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masayukigno worries :)00:59
bigdogstlThis was my first office hour I will be better prepared for the next one. Now that I understand the format.  Thanks00:59
gmannwe have 2 item in open discussion 1. swift/ceph bug which i will comment 2. devstack speedy thing which we are discussing/discussed over patch and ML.01:00
gmannbigdogstl: thanks a lot for showing up and working on many items.01:00
masayukig++01:00
gmannbigdogstl: we have very simple format here first 30 min for status things and 30 min for technical/bug discussions01:01
clarkbI wanted to point out that it feels like the openstack gate needs an air traffic controller. We've got lots of resets happening across many projects and the queues are long01:01
bigdogstlYour are welcome and thank you to you 2 and the other reviewers01:01
clarkbsome sort of coordination around getting bug fixes ready and enqueued/promoted would likely be helpful if someone is able to dig into that01:01
gmannclarkb: oh. do you have links or bugs ?01:02
clarkbgmann: thats the problem we need someone to do that work01:02
clarkbI've been unable to dig into why openstack jobs are failing as I've been debugging infra issues01:02
bigdogstlwhich gates?01:03
clarkbthe openstack integrated gate queue01:03
clarkbkeystone + nova + cinder + neutron + glance (and probably others)01:03
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gmanngrenade and openstack-tox-py27 seems failing frequently01:03
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bigdogstlok01:04
clarkbbasically we need someone to identify issues, coordinate getting them fixed, then point out when they are ready so that we can promote them and fix them quicker01:04
gmannseems like upper-constraints issue on py2701:05
clarkbmriedem was looking at failures today and filed some e-r bugs01:05
gmannok01:05
bigdogstlopenstack-tox-py27 should be easy to create bugs and gather information about01:05
clarkbgmann: cmurphy points out it is relatedto configparser changes maybe? over in #openstack-infra01:06
bigdogstlSorry for the silly question I am new and trying to see when myself or my team mates can help out01:06
cmurphyhi01:06
gmannyeah i am afraid that is not caught while version up in req gate01:07
clarkbbigdogstl: I think the first thing we need is someone to spend some time identifiying the common errors we are seeing so that we can file bugs and get the appropriate teams working to fix them. Then as fixes happen let the infra team know so that we can promote those changes ahead of changes that are likely to fail due to the bugs that these fixes fix :)01:07
bigdogstl+101:08
clarkbbigdogstl: its about the end of my day but I'll be around starting at about 1500UTC tomorrow if people want a quick walkthrough01:08
gmannsure.01:08
gmannI will try to ding into those today if get time01:08
gmannlet's close the office hour as time is over.01:09
gmann#endmeeting01:09
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bigdogstlI will watch right now since milestones next week but I am try to help out more01:09
bigdogstlthank you everyone have a good one01:09
masayukigthanks!01:09
gmannthanks01:09
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masayukiggmann: any thoughts on this? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/68077707:28
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gmannmasayukig: yeah that is in my list. I will check that07:34
masayukiggmann: thanks07:36
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openstackgerritMartin Kopec proposed openstack/tempest master: Add api_prefix for check capabilities  https://review.opendev.org/61555808:08
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openstackgerritJens Harbott (frickler) proposed openstack/devstack master: Fix worlddump log collection  https://review.opendev.org/68034010:21
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fricklerclarkb: ^^ that should be the mergeable version now. the issue with killall needs to be fixed separately, I can reproduce it locally, but haven't found a working variant. for cinder-volume it works, neutron-* isn't matched10:23
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lajoskatonagmann: Hi, Is there an option to give some extra memory to the VM which executes some tempest jobs, to be exact for a try I would add extra mem to networking-odl-tempest jobs.11:33
lajoskatonagmann: by dstat, one thing which I see is that (I suppose due to ODL server) most of the free memory and cache is used, and that can cause some timeouts11:34
openstackgerritAdam Spiers proposed openstack/tempest master: Add tests for basic server operations on AMD SEV compute hosts  https://review.opendev.org/68077711:36
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed opendev/elastic-recheck master: Add query for configparser 4.0.1 missing bug 1843715  https://review.opendev.org/68174113:18
openstackbug 1843715 in OpenStack-Gate "CI jobs failing Sept 11 due to "ERROR: No matching distribution found for configparser===4.0.1"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184371513:18
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openstackgerritMerged opendev/elastic-recheck master: Add query for configparser 4.0.1 missing bug 1843715  https://review.opendev.org/68174113:45
openstackbug 1843715 in OpenStack-Gate "CI jobs failing Sept 11 due to "ERROR: No matching distribution found for configparser===4.0.1"" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184371513:45
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fricklerianw: how do you think should we continue with the f28 brokenness? I'd prefer to move to f29 now, merge https://review.opendev.org/636082, and tackle f30 after the train branch has been made.14:56
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clarkbthe f30 in nodepool change shouldve landed at least14:59
clarkbso we can probably work on f29 and 30 concurrently15:00
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/tempest master: Revert "Add response schema validation for volume quota_set"  https://review.opendev.org/68177615:10
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clarkbfrickler: ya I agree https://review.opendev.org/#/c/680340/11 should be ready16:05
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clarkbgmann: ianw ^ maybe you can take a look at that. Hoping to use that to have better networking debugging tools in place for when jobs fail due to dns problems and similar issues16:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/devstack master: Fix default security group in samples/local.sh  https://review.opendev.org/64976817:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/devstack-gate master: Prepare for stable branching in devstack-gate  https://review.opendev.org/67961017:23
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/tempest master: Remove required 'groups' for stable/ocata  https://review.opendev.org/68186318:03
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openstackgerritRick Bartra proposed openstack/patrole master: DNM testing oslo.policy bump  https://review.opendev.org/68188119:06
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/devstack master: WIP: Configure tempest flavors with a required trait  https://review.opendev.org/68193821:45
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/tempest master: Add workaround to handle the testtool skip exception issue  https://review.opendev.org/68134023:01
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/tempest master: test stestr 2.5.0  https://review.opendev.org/68137023:03
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/devstack stable/ocata: Test ocata Tempest job  https://review.opendev.org/68194823:52

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